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Increase In Prices In Tough Economic Times..

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I have a general question for the gents and ladies on pricing.

If an escort were to have increased their prices by say more than 25% in the last few months, is that morally justifiable or even worthy of such consideration?

I ask because it is clear many people are going through tough financial times. Escorting does provide a level of income for many escorts which mean they generate a high margin already and are within the top range of earners in this country. Escorting is meant to be a service profession and yet such a price hike would appear to show a total lack of respect for the client.

Is it a case an escort should just charge whatever they can with little or no concern for any wider issues? Or, should an escort show consideration financially of the times we are in by not hiking prices? Or is this solely an issue for the market to determine what prices can be charged?

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For me even if she is a regular, if she charges more that what i am prepared to pay, I will go elsewhere. Simples!

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Hard time have effected the girls also, guys seem to forget that these consumer price hikes, food, rent, utilities etc do affect the girls also, especially those Indies that have a separate working place.

On a whole prices have stayed the same and pretty much decreased over years instead of increasing with inflation, their margins have been squeezed for years.

Why do you think it is paid so well? If prices were to drop alongside knickers do you really think as many girls will stay in the business? What would be the point? No what will you be left with then, at a minimum less choice.

There will always be girls within your budget, we all window shop and wish we could afford..........simply move onto a girl that is not out your price range and let those that have their price on self worth get on with it.

I think you show a lack of respect for the girls not recognising all the above let alone that they are selling intimate services which deserve high prices.

I will be upping my prices in the not too distant future for the reasons stated, and can assure you it is not through lack of respect for my customers.

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It's a matter of balancing supply & demand. If a lady only wants or needs to meet 3/4 guys per week she can charge a price to get that level of business. If she needs to see 25 or 30 she must set her prices accordingly.

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It's a commercial transaction, so moral (or other value driven) considerations don't come into it. It's simply about what price can be borne by the market that the particular provider is targetting. hats off to those who are able to buck the econmoic pressures and raise prices for what is a unique commodity!

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Well said, Sabrina.

Escorting does provide a level of income for many escorts which mean they generate a high margin already and are within the top range of earners in this country.

Why do you state this with such confidence? Where do you get your information from, please? I'd be very interested to know.

If you can't afford a lady, you have to see a cheaper lady - there are plenty out there at both ends of the scale. So, shop within your budget. It's not rocket science.

ps - the ladies who are increasing their prices obviously have enough business to be able to do so.

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I have a general question for the gents and ladies on pricing.

If an escort were to have increased their prices by say more than 25% in the last few months, is that morally justifiable or even worthy of such consideration?

I ask because it is clear many people are going through tough financial times. Escorting does provide a level of income for many escorts which mean they generate a high margin already and are within the top range of earners in this country. Escorting is meant to be a service profession and yet such a price hike would appear to show a total lack of respect for the client.

Is it a case an escort should just charge whatever they can with little or no concern for any wider issues? Or, should an escort show consideration financially of the times we are in by not hiking prices? Or is this solely an issue for the market to determine what prices can be charged?

Its completely up to the WG or the Establishment who she gets work from to charge whatever price they choose. If you cant afford or wont pay that price there are options elsewhere in all price ranges in punting. If a particular WG i had already punted with so was aware she had put her prices up 25% its very doubtful i would punt with her again as thats a huge increase but its nothing to do with is it morally justifiable, its up to her and is a business decision just like Sainsburys basic range tissues have doubled in price in a year when we are in a bad economic situation and money is tight for many. So its solely an issue for the market in my opinion.

The reality in my punting area is some Indie prices have come down in recent months, Establishment prices not, in fact a couple i know have gone up in the last year or eighteen months. :)

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Well said, Sabrina.

Why do you state this with such confidence? Where do you get your information from, please? I'd be very interested to know.

If you can't afford a lady, you have to see a cheaper lady - there are plenty out there at both ends of the scale. So, shop within your budget. It's not rocket science.

ps - the ladies who are increasing their prices obviously have enough business to be able to do so.

As a punter all i want is good service, what profit margin a WG has is her business and as it doesnt affect the service i receive its of no interest to me. Many punters seem fascinated by this subject its a very recurring theme on punting forums. The point for me is why care about something that doesnt affect your punting and that you have no way of knowing for definite as a WG isnt going to show you her bank statements etc usually what she really earns. I dont ask all those i have business dealings with, my builder, financial advisor or plumber etc what their profits are as its their business. :)

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My regular girl just put her prices up a few weeks ago but has kept me and a few other guys on what she calls a loyalty tariff!

I can understand that visitors may be fewer and further between so the prices need to go up to compensate but I think 25% is too much, I would be happy to pay the 20% more my lady is charging, but that's only because I know how good she is!

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My regular girl just put her prices up a few weeks ago but has kept me and a few other guys on what she calls a loyalty tariff!

I can understand that visitors may be fewer and further between so the prices need to go up to compensate but I think 25% is too much, I would be happy to pay the 20% more my lady is charging, but that's only because I know how good she is!

My experiences are most of my regulars over the years have done the same as yours, in fact insisting i stay on the original rate and refusing to take more. Others have out of the blue offered me a discount off the original price. :)

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I have a general question for the gents and ladies on pricing.

If an escort were to have increased their prices by say more than 25% in the last few months, is that morally justifiable or even worthy of such consideration?

I ask because it is clear many people are going through tough financial times. Escorting does provide a level of income for many escorts which mean they generate a high margin already and are within the top range of earners in this country. Escorting is meant to be a service profession and yet such a price hike would appear to show a total lack of respect for the client.

Is it a case an escort should just charge whatever they can with little or no concern for any wider issues? Or, should an escort show consideration financially of the times we are in by not hiking prices? Or is this solely an issue for the market to determine what prices can be charged?

LOL,This is prostitution not selling houses or food electronics,..it's unregulated and it's a person or persons working for themselves..a lot of the time putting themselves on the line and in harms way of what ever punter walks out from the street into their homes.It's their body and they can and will charge what ever they please,police provide public service...firemen and nurses,this government does not see prostitution as a public service and if they had their way there would be no WG'S opperating in this country of any kind.

So if there's a WG that's pushed her prices up more than 25% let Ahmed the friendly Arab book a incall with her while you look for a bargin on the other site like the rest of us :)

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I've seen very little evidence of prices being increased over the last three years.

Strangely, though, I booked a session over two weeks ago for a meet on Wednesday next and whilst perving 'her' web pages the other day noticed a £10 increase (for a 2 Hour session) from £220 to £230. When I queried this, bless her, the lady concerned was happy to confirm the booked price would apply and I had to agree with her that the modest 'tweak' in her tariff was simply to bring her in line with the market in the area concerned.

My three other favourite ladies have kept their prices the same for many years. The one I refer to above is a relative newcomer to the work so a period of 'market positioning' is perhaps reasonable.

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I have a general question for the gents and ladies on pricing.

If an escort were to have increased their prices by say more than 25% in the last few months, is that morally justifiable or even worthy of such consideration?

I ask because it is clear many people are going through tough financial times. Escorting does provide a level of income for many escorts which mean they generate a high margin already and are within the top range of earners in this country. Escorting is meant to be a service profession and yet such a price hike would appear to show a total lack of respect for the client.

Is it a case an escort should just charge whatever they can with little or no concern for any wider issues? Or, should an escort show consideration financially of the times we are in by not hiking prices? Or is this solely an issue for the market to determine what prices can be charged?

All I can say is 'get over it'. There is a recession on and property prices in London are still rising (albeit slowly).

As the old saying goes 'a property is only worth what others are prepared to pay for it'

I am inclined to say that the same rule applies for escorts.

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If an escort were to have increased their prices by say more than 25% in the last few months, is that morally justifiable or even worthy of such consideration?

If you were talking about a monopoly supplier hiking the price of food or energy then there would be a moral dimension, but paying for sex is a luxury. In a free market economy service providers can charge whatever they decide.

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If you were talking about a monopoly supplier hiking the price of food or energy then there would be a moral dimension, but paying for sex is a luxury. In a free market economy service providers can charge whatever they decide.

I agree and punting is a very good example of the free market particularly Indies in my view, and has worked very well ensuring competition is fierce to the benefit of the consumer/punter. :)

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If you are hung up about morals it seems strange you would visit escorts!

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Just wanted to add that I've seen girls put special offers on or lower their rates when the bills are due, so it works both ways

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One of the real points I was making is does such an issue feed into the issues of a wider moral collapse or lack of values in society.

What I can or cannot afford I haven't commented upon and I don't see the relevance of that.

Is it a further symptom showing individuality and greed which appears prevalent.

You charge what you can, take what you can and have little consideration for others or the wider society you live within.

Whether it be a footballer getting £200k a week, a banker taking a bonus yet causing wider damage, an escort increasing prices 25% in tough economic times or kids rioting on the streets, it would seem to me all are on a spectrum of indivuality and to some extent greed.

So if you have little respect in terms of appreciating wider values beyond what you can or cannot make, what do you expect back from society?

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Why do you state this with such confidence? Where do you get your information from, please? I'd be very interested to know.

If you can't afford a lady, you have to see a cheaper lady - there are plenty out there at both ends of the scale. So, shop within your budget. It's not rocket science.

I'm more than happy to enter this issue. An escort charging £150 per hour seeing three clients per week would make the average wage. I certainly believe many escorts see more clients than that and do earn, therefore, well above the average wage.

The field reports system here would give an indication of that and I assume that is only a small part of the clients they see.

If I am wrong I'd gladly like to hear. There are enough escorts who read this board, have any who are full time escorts earned less than £25k in the last year? I suspect not or very few.

I'm sorry, if the minimum wage is £6 an hour, I'm astounded anyone would suggest someone earning 25 times more per hour worked is not among the better off in this country. Furthermore, I'd suggest it is unrealistic to suggest that.

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One of the real points I was making is does such an issue feed into the issues of a wider moral collapse or lack of values in society.

Some would say that the market for prostitution in general demonstrates a 'wider moral collapse' or 'lack of values'. Because that's an opinion some people hold, that doesn't make it right.

Is it a further symptom showing individuality and greed which appears prevalent.

Not quite sure what point you are trying to make regarding individuality. Why is individuality a problem, and what has it to do with what a prostitute charges? Also, I am not quite sure why you are so hung up on prostitutes' supposed greed. If you feel that way, just don't spend your hard-earned on prostitutes, simple as that. Why should we have to run our prices/price increases past you or any other Tom, Dick or Harry? And why is it necessarily greedy for someone to up their prices, irrespective of what it is being sold? Perhaps that person's overheads have grown, perhaps they've lost another form of income, perhaps their phone never stops ringing and they have concluded that there is so much demand for their services that they may as well make hay while the sun shines.

You charge what you can, take what you can and have little consideration for others or the wider society you live within.

Are you for real? This is paid sex, not a matter of life or death.

Whether it be a footballer getting £200k a week, a banker taking a bonus yet causing wider damage, an escort increasing prices 25% in tough economic times or kids rioting on the streets, it would seem to me all are on a spectrum of indivuality and to some extent greed.

Let's get one thing straight. A prostitute's earnings are not comparable to a foortballer on £200k a week or the bankers you read about in the news, and you are at best naive if you think otherwise. As for 'kids rioting' - there have been many column inches devoted to the issue, go away and read up on the subject before you compare looters to individual ladies earning a living.

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I certainly believe many escorts see more clients than that and do earn, therefore, well above the average wage.

So, just because you believe it, it must be true, right? How do you know? Perhaps some people like only working for three hours a week?

Your local solicitor may well charge £150 per hour, do you try and calculate how wealthy he/she is? Or your plumber or your builder?

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Let's get one thing straight. A prostitute's earnings are not comparable to a foortballer on £200k a week or the bankers you read about in the news, and you are at best naive if you think otherwise. As for 'kids rioting' - there have been many column inches devoted to the issue, go away and read up on the subject before you compare looters to individual ladies earning a living.

If you cannot see the link between the issues, an effect of just take, take, take and get away with what you can which is relevant to each issue, then you clearly have a different view of the world to me.

Then again, I'm sure someone who thinks earning 25 times the minimum wage doesn't make someone a higher earner doesn't agree with me, or actually lives in the reality of the real world.

You clearly don't think individuality is a problem, I'm saying I see many of these issues as connected. If you yourself show greed or little regard, don't expect it of others or believe others will treat you fairly.

Personally I couldn't care what others charge for what they do, we each have our own lives to live, I'm just saying it in my mind causes a worse society and living in society is something we cannot escape.

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Well, the VAT went up, didn't it? I wonder how many independents are registered. The threshold is only £73,000 so I would imagine that most parlours are. If not, why not? At £100 per hour, that is only two clients a day.

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Gotta say to the OP that I couldn't disagree with you more.

I remember when McDonalds move the Extra Value Meal from £2.88 to £2.99 (jeez that was a while ago) we accepted it and didn't question the respect or moral implications behind the difference except that profit margins have to be kept vs production costs. So why question and to some extent cheapen the value a Woman places on what is largely an intimate premium service?

Well the way I see it is that a WG has does this for a living and charges according to (i) the going market rate in the surrounding area i.e. Kensington based WG will likely charge higher prices than WGs based in Tottenham and (ii) they've got to earn a living from this.

If the price of living is going up (it is) it stands to reason that the price of services (all services) would go up.

Can a WG or Punter confirm what was being charged 15years, 10 years ago and 5 years ago to draw comparision please. You can then cross reference that with the rate of inflation.

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I just want to point out that the football player making £200k a week is alot more objectionable than a working girl making £1k a week, there are people making a lot more money with less scruples.

I get the £1000 per month based on my regular girl, she works maybe 10hours a week at £100 an hour.

If you take into account that a lot of independents work to support a family and not a luxury pent house life style it becomes more reasonable.

It's not greed and decadence that drives most girls (I cannot hand on heart say all, but certainly none that I've met seem greedy) but the need for security.

They may not always be able to work due to injury and I doubt many can claim insurance, so having money to fall back on is important. And there may be a limited time they can work for due to age, relationships, other commitments or simply wanting out.

I have a great deal of respect for any WG, I don't think I would have the self confidence to put myself on the market the way they do (Can't even give it away sometimes! <_< ) plus the bad situations they can be put in don't bare thinking about...

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