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Oxford Case "lifts Veil On Hidden Sex Trafficking"

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Interesting news item in last Thursday's Oxford Mail.

Note in particular:-

Det Insp Simon Morton, who led the investigation, said: “This investigation started in January 2010 after we received a call from a man stating that he had ordered a prostitute but when she arrived she was very young.”

Another instance where a major sex trafficking operation was uncovered as a result of a client alert and which is less likely to happen now that the current law potentially criminalises any whistleblower. Because the arrests in this case predate the implementation of the new law, I presume the issue of force and threats did not come up, but the guy who blew the whistle here would probaly have felt that under the current law it would not be worth taking the risk.

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The guy who took the risk in shopping these guys is very brave in my view.

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It's very important that decent punters write in as I now do to applaud the guy that blew the whistle here.

The legislation that came in (significantly) on April Fools Day last year has done bugger all to protect women from forced sexual slavery.

Our Government really needs to buck its ideas up and scrap the absurd legislation that actually discourages blokes from grassing up the scum elements.

Uncle Pokey

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having read the article,there does'nt seem to be any indication of forced prostitution,it sounded as though it was illegal immigration and under age prostitution(strange how they wer'nt charged with under age prostitution)

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having read the article,there does'nt seem to be any indication of forced prostitution,it sounded as though it was illegal immigration and under age prostitution(strange how they wer'nt charged with under age prostitution)

Same here, it seems even on this board that people are too quick to take things at face value. Apart from the tip off there's no mention of underage girls...an 18 year old is very young to a lot of people. There's no mention of force, and on the contrary, it says that a girl claimed to earn £5000 in a good month. Even if that's before deductions by these guys it's still a nice amount of cash given that she won't have been paying tax etc.

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Same here, it seems even on this board that people are too quick to take things at face value. Apart from the tip off there's no mention of underage girls...an 18 year old is very young to a lot of people. There's no mention of force, and on the contrary, it says that a girl claimed to earn £5000 in a good month. Even if that's before deductions by these guys it's still a nice amount of cash given that she won't have been paying tax etc.

The case as other cases have show, this highlights the risk of reporting this type of crime. Risk not to the punter, but to the people working in the industry. It would be so much easier of brothels were legal, escort agencies were totally legal. Then clients could without hesitation report what they consider to be abuse (underage, trafficking) without fear that their report could close down a totally fair operation.

I am not saying that this was fair or the girl was not under-age or trafficked. But it does mean you have to think hard, and to be sure that you are not making matters worse by calling Mr Plod.

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Interesting news item in last Thursday's Oxford Mail.

Note in particular:-

Det Insp Simon Morton, who led the investigation, said: “This investigation started in January 2010 after we received a call from a man stating that he had ordered a prostitute but when she arrived she was very young.”

The guy who took the risk in shopping these guys is very brave in my view.

A guy calling the cops because his WG was too young? Bollocks (sorry but I'm not buying it). I've never been in trouble with the law but I do know a few people who have for working/managing/running massage places.In most cases the police excuse was "we busted your place because of neighbours complaints". Bull---t. Nobody in those buildings had the slightest clue of what was going on. But the police is never going to admit the real reason behind a bust. There's a always councillor, or big wig who he needs a headline to show his boss that he is good at community policing, responsive to community concerns (and similar crap) because he's in the zone for promotion and needs the brownie points. Police will always come up (specially in the high profile cases) with all sorts of "we received complaints from the community" excuses and "we had to do something about it". It's a complete PR campaign in order to make themselves useful and remind the public they are not throwing away their tax money by having them around. Like everyone else they need to safeguard their jobs.

I'm not saying that neighbours never complain when they find themselves with a bordello next door (yes, it happens), but 70% of the cases there's a hidden agenda behind the arrests, and some police boss will always come up with something in the lines off: "we received a call from a man stating that he had ordered a prostitute but when she arrived she was very young". And of course, nobody is going to question him.

I don't want this to sound as an "anti-police rant". I do believe they do a very valuable job in society (at least I'm very happy to have them around). But law enforcement is involved with politics. They tend to have their own agendas and it's in their best interest not to disclose them. So they lie to the public.

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A guy calling the cops because his WG was too young? Bollocks (sorry but I'm not buying it). ....

That's a bit sweeping. The statement that someone communicated concerns to the police may or may not be true, but I see no reason to think that a large number of reponsible clients would keep quiet if the youth of the girl caused qualms. (The quote didn't claim that she was under age, merely that he had concerns about her age.)

And fair enough, there are men who wouldn't give a damn.

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That's a bit sweeping. The statement that someone communicated concerns to the police may or may not be true(The quote didn't claim that she was under age, merely that he had concerns about her age.)

punter: Hi is this the police?

police: yes indeed. How can I help you today sir?

punter: I'm calling because I'm concerned about the WG that the agency "fun girls" just sent me.

police: What do you mean sir?

punter: I mean..she's certainly not underage but..she could be 19 years old. I'm really pissed off cause don't like them so young u know? They remind me of my grandaughter.

police: Don't worry sir. I'll have a talk with her pimp.

punter: thank you officer.

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If you look at the Harlot's Parlour article, they quote a more detailed interview with the alleged 53-year old whistleblower, in which he claims the girl looked 13 at most.

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You mean the harlots parlour blog? Would you mind posting a link to the interview I haven't seen it there (which is interesting because I tend to follow it).

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Previously posted:

The Harlot's Parlour blog did a post on thislast year.

There's a link in it to an Oxford Times article

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punter: Hi is this the police?

police: yes indeed. How can I help you today sir?

punter: I'm calling because I'm concerned about the WG that the agency "fun girls" just sent me.

police: What do you mean sir?

punter: I mean..she's certainly not underage but..she could be 19 years old. I'm really pissed off cause don't like them so young u know? They remind me of my grandaughter.

police: Don't worry sir. I'll have a talk with her pimp.

punter: thank you officer.

There's this thing called 'Crimestoppers'.....

It would enable a client to maintain anonymity.

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There's this thing called 'Crimestoppers'.....

It would enable a client to maintain anonymity.

I know. I'm not denying the existence of concerned citizens out there who would report a young WG. I was just trying to make a point on how police are not honest most of the times with high profile or prostitution cases, usuallly there's a political agenda behind. In this case when i read the oxford article and the police saying: "A punter who was concerned with her age called us" sounded like another bollocks excuse. Then I read the interview with so punter in the harlot blog and found this was the case (my apologies). Call me bitter but I've seen too many cases around me with political agendas and bollocks excuses of fake neighbours making complaints or concerned citizens protesting about so and so business which ended up not being true.

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