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Threatened By An Escort And Her Pimp. Please Advise Me.

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Hi everyone. I am writing this thread in desperation because last night I was threatened by an escort and, I presume, her pimp. I am really looking for some advice as to how to proceed. I am actually shaking as I write this because I'm really scared for my health and safety. I know that Punternet Forum has policies and procedures regarding the information I can give out, and I will strictly adhere to them. If someone can just tell me whether I am doing the right thing so far, I would be really grateful.

About 6 months ago I got involved with an escort here in London. We became fairly close, although there was still some respectful 'distance' between us. She would never tell me her real name, only her alias, and I would also use my alias name as well. We would talk very often, daily usually, and it was just a really strange, but very nice, experience, because I got to know her quite well. However, there were some serious ups and downs between us. When she was nice, she was absolutely fantastic, but when she became angry, she would really take it out on me. I know she's been through a lot in her life, and so I was quite understanding about it. I'll be honest. My life has been quite easy so far, which I am ashamed to admit. I count my blessings that I am fortunate I haven't had such a troubled life as others have had. I have friends who are quite similar in personality to this escort, and I know that hardships in life can play a strong role in one's personality.

However, yesterday, it went way too far, and now I am very scared.

I received a very abusive voicemail from her, which I have saved on my voicemail. Then in the evening I received a phone call from her, again abusive. Then, about midnight, I received a phone call from someone I presume to be her pimp, threatening to come to my house and beat me up and attack me.

I need to know what to do next.

I intend to go to the police, either this evening, or tomorrow morning. I have her voicemail saved, and I recorded the phone call from her pimp where he threatened to beat me up. My phone is a Pay As You Go phone which I have now switched off (I never gave her the number of my contract phone). Will I need to hand it in to the police? Is there any procedure I have to follow? I also have the number of her pimp (he did not withhold his phone number when he called me)

And what really worries me is this. I go into London on the tube on a daily basis because of my work, and she knows this. What I am really worried about is if she sees me and gets someone to follow me and find out my address. I have only recently moved into a new home in North London about 1 and a half months ago, and I am just so stressed about the possibility of having any trouble. My new neighbours are really nice and this has been my dream home for absolutely ages. I love this area and the last thing I want is to come home and see if my house has been attacked. There are CCTV's mounted everywhere, which I guess is good, but I don't want to suddenly be a pariah in my new neighbourhood.

In this case, what should I do? Shall I go to the police and be honest and tell them everything that has happened? Will the matter be dealt with quietly?

Thank you for any help you can give me.

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Sounds awful. It would help us advise you if we knew why she and this mystery caller had become so abusive. Do they have a reason or is it completely unprovoked? I recognise that the girls behaviour has been erratic in the past, but this sounds like it has escalated to a whole new level.

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Not nice at all. Can you take a different route to work or does this girl know where you work anyway?

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Sounds awful. It would help us advise you if we knew why she and this mystery caller had become so abusive. Do they have a reason or is it completely unprovoked? I recognise that the girls behaviour has been erratic in the past, but this sounds like it has escalated to a whole new level.

Hi Northwinds. Thank you for your post. I did consider writing how it escalated to yesterdays events, but I think it may contravene Punternet rules since it becomes more of a personal matter (and I have seen threads closed on PN when they become too personal) and I'm really looking for advice on what I should do when I take it to the police. Her behaviour has been up-and-down many times. Sometimes she is fantastic, other times the complete opposite but I never minded since everyone has good and bad days. However, last night was the first time I was genuinely scared which is why I would like to take this to the police. I'm just scared for my house and if this effects my new neighbours in any way.

Not nice at all. Can you take a different route to work or does this girl know where you work anyway?

Hi Trawlerman. My problem is that my meetings for work often take place (I occasionally have working lunches in restaurants) in the area where she lives so there is strong possibility she will see me at some time in the near future and I'm worried what will happen after that.

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Hi everyone. I am writing this thread in desperation because last night I was threatened by an escort and, I presume, her pimp. I am really looking for some advice as to how to proceed. I am actually shaking as I write this because I'm really scared for my health and safety. I know that Punternet Forum has policies and procedures regarding the information I can give out, and I will strictly adhere to them. If someone can just tell me whether I am doing the right thing so far, I would be really grateful.

About 6 months ago I got involved with an escort here in London. We became fairly close, although there was still some respectful 'distance' between us. She would never tell me her real name, only her alias, and I would also use my alias name as well. We would talk very often, daily usually, and it was just a really strange, but very nice, experience, because I got to know her quite well. However, there were some serious ups and downs between us. When she was nice, she was absolutely fantastic, but when she became angry, she would really take it out on me. I know she's been through a lot in her life, and so I was quite understanding about it. I'll be honest. My life has been quite easy so far, which I am ashamed to admit. I count my blessings that I am fortunate I haven't had such a troubled life as others have had. I have friends who are quite similar in personality to this escort, and I know that hardships in life can play a strong role in one's personality.

However, yesterday, it went way too far, and now I am very scared.

I received a very abusive voicemail from her, which I have saved on my voicemail. Then in the evening I received a phone call from her, again abusive. Then, about midnight, I received a phone call from someone I presume to be her pimp, threatening to come to my house and beat me up and attack me.

I need to know what to do next.

I intend to go to the police, either this evening, or tomorrow morning. I have her voicemail saved, and I recorded the phone call from her pimp where he threatened to beat me up. My phone is a Pay As You Go phone which I have now switched off (I never gave her the number of my contract phone). Will I need to hand it in to the police? Is there any procedure I have to follow? I also have the number of her pimp (he did not withhold his phone number when he called me)

And what really worries me is this. I go into London on the tube on a daily basis because of my work, and she knows this. What I am really worried about is if she sees me and gets someone to follow me and find out my address. I have only recently moved into a new home in North London about 1 and a half months ago, and I am just so stressed about the possibility of having any trouble. My new neighbours are really nice and this has been my dream home for absolutely ages. I love this area and the last thing I want is to come home and see if my house has been attacked. There are CCTV's mounted everywhere, which I guess is good, but I don't want to suddenly be a pariah in my new neighbourhood.

In this case, what should I do? Shall I go to the police and be honest and tell them everything that has happened? Will the matter be dealt with quietly?

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Sounds horrific. I would certainly be going to the police if it were me and you have evidence they can go on that you can provide them. They will definitely need to listen to the message as it is evidence of whats happened. I assume the process is you go into the police station and discuss this matter and will be asked to make a statement and they decide what they are going to do.

Hopefully this guys threat was an empty one designed to frighten you rather than with any intent on doing more, to do more would involve a bit of work on his part and i very much doubt he could be bothered doing that. Its still worth varying your route to and from work as a precaution in my opinion but impress your fear on the police, its their job to investigate and even a word with such individuals might well ensure he or she never contacts you again.

If this happened to me i would be naming and shaming this WG everywhere i could think of as people like this deserve to be shown as the dodgy people they are and to warn other punters. I do however fully understand that if she found out about this and does know your work route it might provoke her to confront you though. I hope the matter gets sorted. :)

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It sounds awful, and many on here will be thinking "There but for the grace of God go I"

If you think you are in physical danger, you should report it to the police, but you will have to judge how it will impact on other parts of your life and your family and job.

Hope it all works out.

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Sounds horrific. I would certainly be going to the police if it were me and you have evidence they can go on that you can provide them. They will definitely need to listen to the message as it is evidence of whats happened. I assume the process is you go into the police station and discuss this matter and will be asked to make a statement and they decide what they are going to do.

Hopefully this guys threat was an empty one designed to frighten you rather than with any intent on doing more, to do more would involve a bit of work on his part and i very much doubt he could be bothered doing that. Its still worth varying your route to and from work as a precaution in my opinion but impress your fear on the police, its their job to investigate and even a word with such individuals might well ensure he or she never contacts you again.

If this happened to me i would be naming and shaming this WG everywhere i could think of as people like this deserve to be shown as the dodgy people they are and to warn other punters. I do however fully understand that if she found out about this and does know your work route it might provoke her to confront you though. I hope the matter gets sorted. :)

Thank you for your PM and advice smiths.

I will be definitely going to the police and reporting everything that has happened, but I am worried about one thing in particular. Actually, it is a huge worry for me. As I have said, her behaviour with me has always been erratic and I have grown used to that. What I am worried about is that she has a young child. I am concerned that if I report her to the police, I will have to state that she is an escort and I am worried that this may somehow have an additional consequence. Her main source of income is from escorting (I don't think she pays tax on her earnings) and I absolutely DO NOT want anything happening to her child. I am deeply concerned that any report I make may lead to additional investigations and somehow lead social services into becoming involved. I know that escorting is still poorly looked upon by the authorities. She adores her child and is a fantastic mother and I don't want anything happening in that regard.

I too hope that it is an empty threat but I am still being cautious. I am actually quite glad that he didn't withhold his phone number when calling me. It will provide any evidence and telephone records can easily be traced (ie, she called him in the evening and then I presume he called me straight after).

I will definitely take an additional route into work. I live in Hemel Hempstead and I believe there are ways to cut the length of a journey.

I am very reluctant to name and shame her. Escorting has been her primary source of income for years and even though I am still very scared, I would feel some guilt if she lost her clients. I am hoping her anger yesterday may have been an isolated incident. I don't know. I'm still very confused on what the right course of action is. At the moment, I just want to make sure I stay safe and my home and my neighbours home stays safe.

Should I inform my neighbours of any incident that may occur? I don't know them very well yet and am wondering how I could try and explain this?

It sounds awful, and many on here will be thinking "There but for the grace of God go I"

If you think you are in physical danger, you should report it to the police, but you will have to judge how it will impact on other parts of your life and your family and job.

Hope it all works out.

Thank you for your post as well Art Issue.

I truly hope this never occurs to anyone, ever, and I doubt it will. I haven't told anyone else about this yet but one thing I may as both considering and utterly dreading is telling some people close to me. It may help to have some people around me who are also vigilant and can vouch for me as eyewitnesses, if anything happens.

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Thank you for your PM and advice smiths.

I will be definitely going to the police and reporting everything that has happened, but I am worried about one thing in particular. Actually, it is a huge worry for me. As I have said, her behaviour with me has always been erratic and I have grown used to that. What I am worried about is that she has a young child. I am concerned that if I report her to the police, I will have to state that she is an escort and I am worried that this may somehow have an additional consequence. Her main source of income is from escorting (I don't think she pays tax on her earnings) and I absolutely DO NOT want anything happening to her child. I am deeply concerned that any report I make may lead to additional investigations and somehow lead social services into becoming involved. I know that escorting is still poorly looked upon by the authorities. She adores her child and is a fantastic mother and I don't want anything happening in that regard.

I too hope that it is an empty threat but I am still being cautious. I am actually quite glad that he didn't withhold his phone number when calling me. It will provide any evidence and telephone records can easily be traced (ie, she called him in the evening and then I presume he called me straight after).

I will definitely take an additional route into work. I live in Hemel Hempstead and I believe there are ways to cut the length of a journey.

I am very reluctant to name and shame her. Escorting has been her primary source of income for years and even though I am still very scared, I would feel some guilt if she lost her clients. I am hoping her anger yesterday may have been an isolated incident. I don't know. I'm still very confused on what the right course of action is. At the moment, I just want to make sure I stay safe and my home and my neighbours home stays safe.

Should I inform my neighbours of any incident that may occur? I don't know them very well yet and am wondering how I could try and explain this?

Thank you for your post as well Art Issue.

I truly hope this never occurs to anyone, ever, and I doubt it will. I haven't told anyone else about this yet but one thing I may as both considering and utterly dreading is telling some people close to me. It may help to have some people around me who are also vigilant and can vouch for me as eyewitnesses, if anything happens.

No idea why you have thanked me for sending you a PM as i didnt. I wouldnt of mentioned where i lived either as you have in this post, keep as much to yourself as possible when punting is my advice.

Only you can decide what your going to do obviously but its the guy who threatened you that i would want dealt with by the police primarily, my personal view is this woman should of thought about the consequences of her actions before doing this and anything that happens is her responsibility not yours.

I most certainly wouldnt be telling my neighbours fuck all as its none of their business.

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I'm gonna take the opposite view here. I wouldn't go to the police, they would only see it as a threat and not serious enough to take action. They have a big workload of more serious work. I would just keep my head down and probably nothing will happen. In my view when someone is going to inflict serious violence on you ,they don't give you the advantage of a warning first.

If the police did take it up, and it got to court, and the local papers got wind of the story, then your house and nieghbours would be in the limelight. Just switch off your phone and do nothing.

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From what you've said she and the bloke are both headcases, if this is the case the child will probably be better off being taken into care.

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without sounding stereotypical, she may have a drug habit , one minute up and normal, the next down and abusive, typical behaviour of an addict.

if this is the case i doubt she would actually carry out any threats as she would have a lot more to lose (child etc) i think maybe they were trying to frighten you so you would give them money, and possibly you were not alone and they phoned other "clients" with the same threats. but as i dont know the whole story this is all pure speculation.

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In this case, what should I do? Shall I go to the police and be honest and tell them everything that has happened? Will the matter be dealt with quietly?

Thank you for any help you can give me.

People being bloody to each other isn't pleasant, but it isn't always, often indeed, criminal!

Threats to kill are criminal. I'm by no means sure that telephoned threats to black your eyes are! "Harassment" (a new, improved, Blair-Labour offence, I think) requires, I'm fairly sure, repitition.

Getting "involved" with an escort can lead to "difficulties". On the other hand escorts are humans, and a good few of them are very intelligenct, interesting, attractive and generally "fun" humans, so it is a step (potentially too far) which many of us take.

Me, if I was in your shoes, and the Lord be thanked, I don't think I am, I'd make a date with my solicitor (@ £150 / hour for a minimum, I'd say) and tell him every bloody thing and I'd take his advice. He may well say, "John, you've been a bloody fool, but that's why I'm in business!" but that's life.

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I'd make a date with my solicitor (@ £150 / hour for a minimum, I'd say) and tell him every bloody thing and I'd take his advice. He may well say, "John, you've been a bloody fool, but that's why I'm in business!" but that's life.

This is very sound advice. You could always pick a solicitor at random if you don't want to use your regular one. Tell them every single detail and then take their advice. He/she might even be prepared to accompany you to the station (obviously for a fee). This money would be very well spent if it puts your mind at risk.

As for the child, he/she might be better off in care rather than in this precarious home environment.

What ever you choose I wish you luck P

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I... I have to be honest here...

You've all been very nice to me, and given me great advice. I did get threatened by the guy, but this is not the girls fault >.<

I'm so deeply ashamed of myself. It is not the girls fault at all. The guy phoned me at night and made horrible threats, but I completely deserved it >.<

When I wrote this thread, I was in a certain state of mind. I was still scared, but I only told one side of the story.

I had an argument with the girl during the afternoon. It escalated out of nothing, but then I was the one who became a psycho and a lunatic to her first >.<

We both got angry, but I took it too far. I said to her that I was going to report her to HMRC for tax evasion. I made that threat first. And then I said to her I'm going to report her to social services and try to get her kid taken away from her.

I was the one who was wrong, and I deserved everything that happened to me. The guy who threatened me was only being a friend to her and protecting her. I was the psycho.

I'm so sorry everyone. I am deeply ashamed of myself. I'm the idiot.

Please, Moderators, ban me. I'm an idiot, I hurt someone I deeply cared about, and I did a terrible thing. I brought this all on my self. The girl did NOTHING wrong.

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I... I have to be honest here...

You've all been very nice to me, and given me great advice. I did get threatened by the guy, but this is not the girls fault >.<

I'm so deeply ashamed of myself. It is not the girls fault at all. The guy phoned me at night and made horrible threats, but I completely deserved it >.<

When I wrote this thread, I was in a certain state of mind. I was still scared, but I only told one side of the story.

I had an argument with the girl during the afternoon. It escalated out of nothing, but then I was the one who became a psycho and a lunatic to her first >.<

We both got angry, but I took it too far. I said to her that I was going to report her to HMRC for tax evasion. I made that threat first. And then I said to her I'm going to report her to social services and try to get her kid taken away from her.

Just make youself a cup of tea and take a lie down , you'll be alright :D

I was the one who was wrong, and I deserved everything that happened to me. The guy who threatened me was only being a friend to her and protecting her. I was the psycho.

I'm so sorry everyone. I am deeply ashamed of myself. I'm the idiot.

Please, Moderators, ban me. I'm an idiot, I hurt someone I deeply cared about, and I did a terrible thing. I brought this all on my self. The girl did NOTHING wrong.

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Just make yourself a cup of tea and take a lie down, you'll be alright. :D

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OK I think this thread should be brought to a halt now, or at least closed temporarily.

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