Sarah Summers

New And Vulnerable Clients

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I posted a long thread and the screen froze and I lost everything. I thought about it for a bit, and decided it was worth posting again so here it is. Please feel free to come in with your thoughts on this matter, but bear in mind this post is from the heart, without malice, and I feel strongly about it.

Do see your working girl and enjoy her company. You do not have to take her expensive presents - just the fee will do. If you wish to take something for you both to share, then go ahead, but don't get the idea that anything you do is going to earn you special favours because this is a paid for encounter.

If you are lucky enough to see a really nice lady who you would love to see again, please be aware that she is not your girlfriend, no matter how nice she is or how special she makes you feel. This is her job.

Don't get carried away. When the punt ends and you go home, you do not have any rights over her. Don't be angry if she has a boyfriend. Please don't accuse her of having one if she tells you she doesn't!

Don't try to find out things about her going on bits of info you may have gleaned in the course of your meetings. Take everything she says with a pinch of salt, and she will be doing the same..........

Enjoy your meets, and don't try to involve yourself in her private life because you sure as hell would not want her to do that to you. Don't google her if you get to find out her real name, and don't follow her home or do anything so silly because you allowed yourself to have feelings for a service provider.

The GFE is just that - an experience. It is not a relationship, no matter how loving she is it is a paid for experience and no more until the next time.

Given that there are so many men out there having crap punts, just think yourself lucky you have met someone who actually gives you value for money with no 'buyers' remorse'.

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well said sarah

spot on

Thank you. I did not want to seem harsh, but sometimes the hard word is.

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Please feel free to come in with your thoughts on this matter, but bear in mind this post is from the heart, without malice, and I feel strongly about it.

Do see your working girl and enjoy her company.

The GFE is just that - an experience. It is not a relationship, no matter how loving she is it is a paid for experience and no more until the next time.

Given that there are so many men out there having crap punts, just think yourself lucky you have met someone who actually gives you value for money with no 'buyers' remorse'.

I rather think that you should get this printed nicely and laminated and hand it out to WGs, who ought to hang it somewhere, like on the inside of the bathroom door, for the punters to read - like a Government Health Warning, only nicer!

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I posted a long thread and the screen froze and I lost everything. .........

zzzzz....

Maybe God was sending you a message, but you carried on anyway!

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Ms Summers is spot on, it's rule number one

1. Remember you are paying for attention not affection

Followed by...

2. Always take a shower if offered. If not offered, ask.

3. Always have a backup plan

Not always the case, it took me a little while to realise. Punting has been better for it.

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In the light of a few other threads floating around just now this is excellent advice from Sarah. Thank you very much, and in the spirit of another thread, I hope to enjoy Black Pudding and Mushy Peas with you very soon. :D

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Good advice, but can be applied to experienced punters too, not just 'new and vulnerable.' I've punted for over a decade but with two ladies, I've had to really remind myself not to feel too affectionate towards them. It can be difficult though, we are only human...

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Good advice, but can be applied to experienced punters too, not just 'new and vulnerable.' I've punted for over a decade but with two ladies, I've had to really remind myself not to feel too affectionate towards them. It can be difficult though, we are only human...

That's because you have mutual respect and don't cross boundaries. There are too many punters who do not afford their service provider the reciprocal amount of discretion she applies IMHO

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Good advice, but can be applied to experienced punters too, not just 'new and vulnerable.' I've punted for over a decade but with two ladies, I've had to really remind myself not to feel too affectionate towards them. It can be difficult though, we are only human...

I agree. However, some punters who post on here treat punting as if it were dating in my opinion formed from reading many posts. Its best in my view to get real and treat it for what it is, a paid encounter which hopefully will be fun.

Enquire, book, confirm, punt and leave is my advice to all. :)

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When I first read this post I thought that although very true it came across to me as quite a cold post and wondered why it was posted perhaps someone declared their love for the poster??? I then read it again in the way it was intended - as an advice - and really do agree with everyting that was said.

Over the years I've been seeing WGs, I have been told of how some blokes would become besotted with a girl they've been seeing and end up spending thousands of pounds paying off their debts, buying gifts for them etc without really thinking that at the end of the day the WG got no loving feelings for the bloke in question and will continue to allow him to spend all this money on her. So indeed there are punters that can be vulnerable to this kind of "relationship".

It's really good to get this advice from a WG so that it hammers home to those that can be susceptible to this kind of behaviour to keep their head screwed on!

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Sarah

I guess most of us know that we pay only for the time we are there

Super as the lady is, it’s a paid for experience.

Yes I know this, of course I do.

So why oh why does this fool let his guard down ( at least once a year)

“I think she really liked me “

“We clicked “

“She gave me such a welcome she must have been looking forward to seeing me again”

For me the only way this delusion has manifested itself is to book another visit very soon.

So it never hurts to have a topic like this posted just to remind us soppy old gits exactly what punting is

Thanks Sarah

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A very good post indeed Sarah. I've only been punting just over a year and met some terrific ladies. I have clicked with many and had some great times. I have always managed to contain my emotions fairly well and had no problem accepting that its all an act and that some girls are extremely good at being better than any girlfriend you ever had for the alloted time !

I have left numerous punts feeling like a king and on top of the world, but always managed to accept it for what it was.

However recently I have found myself starting to fall for a girl I have been seeing for some months. Its been a difficult few weeks [in my head] but I have now managed to put things into perspective and shaken myself. It was made easier by her encouraging me to see a collegue - who to be honest is equally as hot, but more ruthless in her manner so its easier to not even want to get emotionally involved. That said, they do treat me special and give me plenty of extra time when they can as they like my regular custom. I want to keep visiting them, and I am now confident that I can once again be in control of my emotions. Its never been a problem before, but I am now aware how easy it can happen. You, and Smiths, are right inasmuchas many on here seem to treat punting as dating, but these guys really should know that its a dangerous game to play because any good WG is just acting out your fantasy for a fee. After all, if she does it to make you return, then she's doing it with all the other guys that she wants to return. Even though she may tell you 'its not all about the money' !!:blink:

And, as someone else has mentioned, your advice certainly is not just for newbie punters, as it seems some most of the most attatched and protective posters on this forum have been punting for many years !

Problem us punters have is that when we find a girl that ticks all our boxes and provides perfect sex we want her all the more, and thats gonna cost us - whether we like it or not !

Now thats off my chest, I will enjoy punting all the more - once again :)

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A fair post by Sarah.

I was watching "Judge Judy" the other day. It was a case between two kids, a boy and a girl, say around 11-12. The case was basically about the boy fancied the girl, the parents said no then the girl went off flirting with the boys best friend at the basketball court after school and did so in-front of the other boy. There was then an incident which caused a legal case.

Anyhow, I slightly digress to give the background. In resolving the case the judge made I thought a point to consider. It was basically girls learn to manipulate situations (including boys) from quite a young age. Boys basically understand dirt and don't get it.

In the case the mother of the girl was upset her daughter was in an altercation and solely blamed the boy, yet failed to get the fact her daughter had gone home from school, got changed and went to meet another boy at the basketball court where she knew this other boy would be, almost knowing it would cause trouble based on past history. She was essentially manipulating two boys, no doubt to improve her self worth or to show she could, etc.

The point I am making I guess is women tend to mature quicker in general I think. Some guys just never mature very well or get it. I found it quite shocking that I have heard many parents say boys in a way are easier to raise, more loving and I guess innocent for longer?

I am also equally sure many escorts are skilled at what they do, perhaps manipulation isn't the right word, but certainly it is in many ways to create a false reality. I'd say the majority of people who are confused by this are clients, but I'm also equally sure at times some escorts do play a situation to their advantage or are confused themselves.

I agree with what Sarah says, but I guess I'm also saying with humans involved in the interaction, there will always be situations, whereever you may wish to lay blame, that confused the good logic Sarah details.

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I love this post.

Purely because there is one European WG in particular who I genuinely care alot about but have never told and this post just made me feel better for not doing so.

Its the classic argument of brain and logic VS feelings and interaction.

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When I first read this post I thought that although very true it came across to me as quite a cold post and wondered why it was posted perhaps someone declared their love for the poster??? I then read it again in the way it was intended - as an advice - and really do agree with everyting that was said.

Over the years I've been seeing WGs, I have been told of how some blokes would become besotted with a girl they've been seeing and end up spending thousands of pounds paying off their debts, buying gifts for them etc without really thinking that at the end of the day the WG got no loving feelings for the bloke in question and will continue to allow him to spend all this money on her. So indeed there are punters that can be vulnerable to this kind of "relationship".

It's really good to get this advice from a WG so that it hammers home to those that can be susceptible to this kind of behaviour to keep their head screwed on!

I have a lovely regular who has on SEVERAL occasions paid off ladies debts, invested in half baked business ventures with them (of which they had no experience or qualifications), never to see his cash again, They were supposedly supposed to offer their time to clear the debt - then disappeared. I asked him for a joke why can't he lend/give me money like that and his reply was that I am "too much of a sensible business woman". Surely better to lend your hard earned money to a "sensible business woman" than a crackpot, lol.

Another one recently came to see me to relieve his stress as he had lent someone £5k, aaaaahhhh, because he was a regular and in love. Now his wife has found out and thrown him out and, (surprise, surprise), he cannot get his cash back from the lady, which he now needs for a flat deposit!

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I posted a long thread and the screen froze and I lost everything. I thought about it for a bit, and decided it was worth posting again so here it is. Please feel free to come in with your thoughts on this matter, but bear in mind this post is from the heart, without malice, and I feel strongly about it.

Do see your working girl and enjoy her company. You do not have to take her expensive presents - just the fee will do. If you wish to take something for you both to share, then go ahead, but don't get the idea that anything you do is going to earn you special favours because this is a paid for encounter.

If you are lucky enough to see a really nice lady who you would love to see again, please be aware that she is not your girlfriend, no matter how nice she is or how special she makes you feel. This is her job.

Don't get carried away. When the punt ends and you go home, you do not have any rights over her. Don't be angry if she has a boyfriend. Please don't accuse her of having one if she tells you she doesn't!

Don't try to find out things about her going on bits of info you may have gleaned in the course of your meetings. Take everything she says with a pinch of salt, and she will be doing the same..........

Enjoy your meets, and don't try to involve yourself in her private life because you sure as hell would not want her to do that to you. Don't google her if you get to find out her real name, and don't follow her home or do anything so silly because you allowed yourself to have feelings for a service provider.

The GFE is just that - an experience. It is not a relationship, no matter how loving she is it is a paid for experience and no more until the next time.

Given that there are so many men out there having crap punts, just think yourself lucky you have met someone who actually gives you value for money with no 'buyers' remorse'.

This is why I don't go in for the full on "Girlfriend Experience".

Too good a service and then there's all the fear that you get too caught up emotionally and forget that it's a time limited experience.

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This is why I don't go in for the full on "Girlfriend Experience".

Too good a service and then there's all the fear that you get too caught up emotionally and forget that it's a time limited experience.

There is nothing wrong with a little affection, it's good for the soul. I jump for joy when some of my regs come to see me - I have the best fun ever, because we know and like (love???) each other, but the beauty of these punts is that we all know where our bread is buttered and it's inside my flat - not on the outside.

I have heard of girls who have borrowed huge amounts of cash from punters who are gullible ( and maybe a little pompous) enough to think the girl has reciprocal feelings. If the girl borrows money from you, a pound to a penny she 'borrows' it from any one else daft enough to lend it to her including fellow WGS :(

An honest days' work for an honest days' pay I says :)

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A very sane and sensible post from Sarah. It can be easy to be deluded into thinking that a girl who provides a great service has some sort of emotional attachment to you, especially if you get little affection in real life; I have occasionally found myself thinking that way before snapping out of it. She may like you as a client but that's a different matter.

I do sometimes give small presents as a token of appreciation, but the idea of paying off thousand of pounds of debt sounds utterly crackers.

And nntt's point on parents reminded me that my mum always used to say that she was glad she had three boys as girls are "far more trouble".

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There is nothing wrong with a little affection, it's good for the soul. I jump for joy when some of my regs come to see me - I have the best fun ever, because we know and like (love???) each other, but the beauty of these punts is that we all know where our bread is buttered and it's inside my flat - not on the outside.

An honest days' work for an honest days' pay I says :)

Of course and I suppose I'd enjoy having the type of relationship you enjoy with your regulars. I'm just a little cynical about how genuine the conversation, concern and/or affection is. That's not a slight on you. More about me and my preferences really.

Still, not everyone can easily seperate affection from emotion. Remove the paying element (which is easily forgotten when in the hands of a skilled woman) and I can see how easy it would be for a guy to make an emotional attachment with a woman who 'gets' them on a physical (and seemingly psychological) level.

I have heard of girls who have borrowed huge amounts of cash from punters who are gullible ( and maybe a little pompous) enough to think the girl has reciprocal feelings. If the girl borrows money from you, a pound to a penny she 'borrows' it from any one else daft enough to lend it to her including fellow WGS :(

It's why I think GFE while amazing is also a potentially emotionally dangerous thing.

Guy feels attached and that he can trust the WG not realising that there is this whole other life of her's that he isn't aware of. Too caught up in the fantasy of the perfect girlfriend.

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This is why I don't go in for the full on "Girlfriend Experience".

Too good a service and then there's all the fear that you get too caught up emotionally and forget that it's a time limited experience.

Whereas i love GFE punts and know there is no such thing as too good a service in my experiences, and i have no fear as i realize its a fantasy, a paid delusion and dont get emotionally caught up. Its about having fun for me not fear or worrying about getting emotionally tangled. I wouldnt be able to punt if i thought like you. :)

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Whereas i love GFE punts and know there is no such thing as too good a service in my experiences, and i have no fear as i realize its a fantasy, a paid delusion and dont get emotionally caught up. Its about having fun for me not fear or worrying about getting emotionally tangled. I wouldnt be able to punt if i thought like you. :)

IME....its when the DFK and sex becomes uber-passionate that it can all go a bit 'Pete-Tong' .ooooeeeer .....:lol: :lol:

With one or two girls I have felt that the feelings were running at boiling point during the act, but thats ultimately what I am after anyways and maximum VFM ! B)

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IME....its when the DFK and sex becomes uber-passionate that it can all go a bit 'Pete-Tong' .ooooeeeer .....:lol: :lol:

With one or two girls I have felt that the feelings were running at boiling point during the act, but thats ultimately what I am after anyways and maximum VFM ! B)

I am busy trying to get some breath in my lungs when DFK becomes passionate and fighting her off for a breather when necessary, thats exactly what makes a good punt for me, the WG being all over me like a rash virtually sucking my fillings out. ;):D

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