californiamassage

Are Ip Addresses Easily Traceable?

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hi,

Question for the IT savvy people: When googling my webpage my IP shows up on the WHOIS.com search :angry: I'm just concerned with the "safety" issue. I feel somewhat vulnerable that anyone can find out my personal home address. Unfortunately I've had a couple of "stalker types" in the past and I'm afraid of a crazy individual finding my family home by tracing my IP address.

How easy it is to trace an IP address? Can anyone do it?

thanks again.

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Seeing as we can be pinpointed to an area by our mobile phones, it's not too hard to expect the same kind of thing for I.P address's.

I just tried this company with my I.P http://whatismyipaddress.com/ and it was within a mile radius of my location.

According to their Myhttp://whatismyipaddress.com/geolocation-accuracy link it can vary between 50% and 80%. You'd be unlucky then if it pinpointed you.

Hope this puts you at somewhat ease :)

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hi lily,

Just tried it and I was a good couple of miles away... but knowing how fast technology goes i'm sure that next year by this time we'll have another smart-ass webpage that will give you the street and building number. In 5 years time we'll have another one that will inform people of your sexual preferences and dress size.

This" age of transparency" is getting scarier by the minute.

:unsure:

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Using that I was told that my current location is about 35 miles away from where I actually am.

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Unless you're paying extra to have a Static IP address, your IP Address changes periodically as it is "dynamically assigned" by your ISP.

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I live in a city centre so wonder if that makes any difference ?

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Seeing as we can be pinpointed to an area by our mobile phones, it's not too hard to expect the same kind of thing for I.P address's.

I just tried this company with my I.P http://whatismyipaddress.com/ and it was within a mile radius of my location.

According to their Myhttp://whatismyipaddress.com/geolocation-accuracy link it can vary between 50% and 80%. You'd be unlucky then if it pinpointed you.

Hope this puts you at somewhat ease :)

Lucky me: Being in France really tested them and they were almost 100km out !

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Seeing as we can be pinpointed to an area by our mobile phones, it's not too hard to expect the same kind of thing for I.P address's.

I just tried this company with my I.P http://whatismyipaddress.com/ and it was within a mile radius of my location.

According to their Myhttp://whatismyipaddress.com/geolocation-accuracy link it can vary between 50% and 80%. You'd be unlucky then if it pinpointed you.

Hope this puts you at somewhat ease :)

And your point is?

There can be a great many homes within this distance so it hardly gives much away does it.

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1. How easy it is to trace an IP address?

2. Can anyone do it?

thanks again.

1. V. Easy.

2. No.

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1. V. Easy.

2. No.

Sorry but that makes little sense. If this is so easy thing to do why can't anyone do it then?

:angry:

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It's worth pointing out that it is very difficult to spoof IP addresses because ultimately the information will have to travel back to the originating IP number, no matter how much you re-route the network traffic. Just in case you were thinking of going down that route.

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And your point is?

There can be a great many homes within this distance so it hardly gives much away does it.

....and that's why I wasn't bothered about it :mellow:

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hi,

Question for the IT savvy people: When googling my webpage my IP shows up on the WHOIS.com search

Assuming that your website is hosted by a 3rd party company, the WHOIS ip address will be that of the hosting company rather than your house. Additionally, *your* ipaddress (google whatsmyip) will probably only be traceable to your Internet providers local e try point rather than your house. The authorities will have no problem getting your internet provider to hand over your address, but joe Public stands little chance.

Despite this, two tips for a service provider. If you post photos on your website that are taken on mobile phones, there is a good chance that the phone recorded the gPs coordinates of where the photo was taken. Be sure to disable he location services onyour camera apps. Secondly, unless you registered your website as a PRIVATE entry, your address would show up in a Whois search. Private details can be released if somebody claims your website is a business rather than personal site and requests tha the details are released.

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Assuming that your website is hosted by a 3rd party company, the WHOIS ip address will be that of the hosting company rather than your house. Additionally, *your* ipaddress (google whatsmyip) will probably only be traceable to your Internet providers local e try point rather than your house. The authorities will have no problem getting your internet provider to hand over your address, but joe Public stands little chance.

thanks. that pretty much answers my question.

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hi,

Question for the IT savvy people: When googling my webpage my IP shows up on the WHOIS.com search :angry: I'm just concerned with the "safety" issue. I feel somewhat vulnerable that anyone can find out my personal home address. Unfortunately I've had a couple of "stalker types" in the past and I'm afraid of a crazy individual finding my family home by tracing my IP address.

How easy it is to trace an IP address? Can anyone do it?

thanks again.

Every computer on the internet has a (different) IP address that includes web servers, home PC's even laptops and mobile phones.

Your web server IP is typically different from your home broad band, though in theory you could run a web-server from home over broadband it's not really practical thing to do. IP are allocated in blocks and most ISP's pool their IP blocks.

When you connect your home PC to the net via broadband your ISP typically makes a temporary assignment, you will typically get a different IP each time you reboot your router (unless you pay extra for a fixed IP). An ISP will typically assign blocks to telephone exchanges. The Geo-location is usually centred on the exchange, not you. The larger the ISP the more likely they are to fully consume a block at one exchange. Smaller ISP would typically need several exchanges to fully consume a block. The Mobile/3G will typically use a central proxy location and that is the geo-location you would see for that. It is quite easy to look up the location of the IP address, however...

The (blocks) IP address is typically owned by the ISP, either the web hosting company or the broadband provider. The IP of the website is determined dynamically by looking you the name with a DNS (Domain Name Service) provider. The computer then sends message to the IP address not the name. The name and IP address must be linked otherwise nobody would find websites.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "When googling my webpage my IP shows up on the WHOIS.com search"?

WHOIS services show whom is the registered owner of the website.

If your broad band IP is showing up on your website, then you are probably 'leaking' your web-servers access logs.

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Every computer on the internet has a (different) IP address that includes web servers, home PC's even laptops and mobile phones.

Your web server IP is typically different from your home broad band, though in theory you could run a web-server from home over broadband it's not really practical thing to do. IP are allocated in blocks and most ISP's pool their IP blocks.

When you connect your home PC to the net via broadband your ISP typically makes a temporary assignment, you will typically get a different IP each time you reboot your router (unless you pay extra for a fixed IP). An ISP will typically assign blocks to telephone exchanges. The Geo-location is usually centred on the exchange, not you. The larger the ISP the more likely they are to fully consume a block at one exchange. Smaller ISP would typically need several exchanges to fully consume a block. The Mobile/3G will typically use a central proxy location and that is the geo-location you would see for that. It is quite easy to look up the location of the IP address, however...

The (blocks) IP address is typically owned by the ISP, either the web hosting company or the broadband provider. The IP of the website is determined dynamically by looking you the name with a DNS (Domain Name Service) provider. The computer then sends message to the IP address not the name. The name and IP address must be linked otherwise nobody would find websites.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "When googling my webpage my IP shows up on the WHOIS.com search"?

WHOIS services show whom is the registered owner of the website.

If your broad band IP is showing up on your website, then you are probably 'leaking' your web-servers access logs.

Agree with Wyke tyke. Your IP can change everytime you reboot your router. (Mine overheats sometimes and needs rebooting, then Ive got to redo the IP address on my PS3 as its changed)

Unless theres some crimal act which means that the police ask the service provider for records of what your IP was.

My IP gets traced to Ipswich. Miles away from where I actually am.

Even putting in my actual IP address gives me a message that it cannot be traced as its private.

If your IP is showing as public thou and showing yourself then you might want to look up Network Address Translation and assign a private IP address.

Edited by Overworked

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hi,

Question for the IT savvy people: When googling my webpage my IP shows up on the WHOIS.com search :angry: I'm just concerned with the "safety" issue. I feel somewhat vulnerable that anyone can find out my personal home address. Unfortunately I've had a couple of "stalker types" in the past and I'm afraid of a crazy individual finding my family home by tracing my IP address.

How easy it is to trace an IP address? Can anyone do it?

thanks again.

AS others have said your IP address changes throughout the day unless you have a need for a fixed one, and have paid extra for the privilege. In either case there's nothing within it that can pinpoint your location precisely. Anyone can figure out roughly where you are. The IP will give enough info for that, but it could be allocated by your ISP to any house/computer within a certain area. The IP address I have right now might belong to the guy across the road in a couple of hours and might have been allocated to someone a couple of miles away earlier this afternoon. If you have an IP address and timestamp you can get accurate location information only from the ISP (Virgin, BT, Sky etc.) - Even the police couldn't trace you without their assistance. All anyone would know without them, is who your ISP is and a very rough idea where you live.

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You can choose not to have your address publicly displayed on whois. I think it varies from registrar to registrar though.

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You can choose not to have your address publicly displayed on whois. I think it varies from registrar to registrar though.

No you can't, assuming you're with a domestic customer with an ISP. Even with dynamic IP addresses often they stay the same over extended periods. If you're really paranoid a VPN is the way to go but even they're not bullet proof so to speak.

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You can choose not to have the contact details associated with your domain displayed on the whois database. I know you can because I have done so.

I'm not talking about IPs. Sorry if my post was unclear.

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You are I think talking about two different things, it is easy to find someone's IP addy (unless they go through a proxy server) by reading the headers of any emails they send you, but then again a lot of the time it will be the address of their t'internet service provider - the whois what shows mostly depends on what you registered with nominet, if you do not opt out of giving your address then it will show up.

There is a stalker punter on here :P (you know who you are) that found me on facebook by going to whois finding out my real name then scrolling thru all

Reberta Ramsbotooms in York and finding me!

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You can choose not to have the contact details associated with your domain displayed on the whois database. I know you can because I have done so.

I'm not talking about IPs. Sorry if my post was unclear.

Well the thread is about IP addresses, hence my reply.

FWIW, you can pay to have .COM (and no doubt other similar TLDs) hidden, but you can only legitimately opt out of whois for a .UK TLD if you're a non-trading individual. A parlour, agency or escort etc who has a domain for business purposes theoretically cannot request opt out from whois, but of course we all know that the reality is quite different.

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hi,

Question for the IT savvy people: When googling my webpage my IP shows up on the WHOIS.com search :angry: I'm just concerned with the "safety" issue. I feel somewhat vulnerable that anyone can find out my personal home address. Unfortunately I've had a couple of "stalker types" in the past and I'm afraid of a crazy individual finding my family home by tracing my IP address.

How easy it is to trace an IP address? Can anyone do it?

thanks again.

I'm guessing what you mean is can somebody find my address from a whois search of my web address

ie can they go to a domain search website...type in calimassage dot com (or whatever) and then see your name and address.

Yes.....unless you opt for domain privicy with whoever you registered your domain name costs about ten squids a year.

As far as I know there are no restrictions on this regarding business or personal use.

Your ip address probably doesn't enter into it. I'm assuming you host your website on a commercial server service rather then your home computer.

As stated earlier anybody searching for that IP would just get the location of the company that hosts your site.

If you send emails via your desktop rather then logging into cpanel then your IP (at home) would also show in the headers.

Even if somebody finds your IP address it's pretty hard for the average person to sort out who / where you are.

Having said that your ISP holds records of who has what IP (and even if your IP isn't static they still know who was allocated what address at what time).

If somebody was skilled enough (very skilled, no really VERY skilled) they could hack your ISPs database and from there get the info.

Or simply go the NOTW route and pay for the goodies.

If you've got domain privicy I really wouldn't worry.

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Well the thread is about IP addresses, hence my reply.

FWIW, you can pay to have .COM (and no doubt other similar TLDs) hidden, but you can only legitimately opt out of whois for a .UK TLD if you're a non-trading individual. A parlour, agency or escort etc who has a domain for business purposes theoretically cannot request opt out from whois, but of course we all know that the reality is quite different.

B

yep, and the OP mentions "personal home address" which, I was helpfully pointing out, can be obfuscated on whois

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