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Rebuttal To A Rebuttal On A Field Report?

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Very quick question.

But if you leave a feedback report for someone. And they then offer a rebuttal which you disagree with. Are you able to offer a rebuttal to a rebuttal?

Or if not what do you do? Just have to accept it?

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I don't think the system used to allow you to do that but it may now the software has been re-vamped. Why not PM G and ask?

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I expect not else it'd just go on and on and on.

Tricky one.

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I posted a FR on Eve of West London a couple of years ago, she wrote a rebuttal which was a string of lies, no way of writing a rebuttal to a rebuttal, so I started a thread here about It.

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I posted a FR on Eve of West London a couple of years ago, she wrote a rebuttal which was a string of lies, no way of writing a rebuttal to a rebuttal, so I started a thread here about It.

Thanks for that, And did her replies cause you any future problems with other Escorts, or did any bring it up?

You mention you started a topic here as your rebuttal, do you think looking back that do you any benefit (except showing other members here your view?).

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Move on, no point in turning it into a feud.

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Move on, no point in turning it into a feud.

Yeah, that is good advice.

I was intending to do this on first seeing the rebuttal. My only worry is that the girl I booked was an agency girl. And obviously I do not want my name blacklisted by the other girls at the same agency just because she makes extreme and quite insulting responses as the reasons for her bad performance.

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I got your PM but will reply here as the information may be useful to others as well.

There are no rebuttals to rebuttals. I don't want a FR to turn into a back-and-forth mud-slinging match. That just makes everyone involved look bad.

The author always has the option of having the report deleted, and ladies and establishments can always choose to have no reports here at all. The rule for providers is "all or nothing" though, they can't pick and choose which ones to keep.

However, it is best to leave reports like the OP's online, as they can add weight to future reports by the same author on other ladies, as well as by other punters on the same lady.

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I do not want my name blacklisted by the other girls at the same agency just because she makes extreme and quite insulting responses as the reasons for her bad performance.

I doubt that will happen, she doesn't want to see you and you don't want to see her.

As for 'extreme' and 'insulting' I think you are being overly sensitive.

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Obviously there are two sides to every story and we as service providers have the right to post a rebuttal if we think what you have said is an unfair description of what took place. I have read both the review and the rebuttal, and can honestly say that you need to draw a line under it and move on.

That old saying 'no publicity is bad' will prove right as there will be guys wanting to see her.

I looked at her reports and this is the only bad one, so time alone will tell.

And another thing - if you are really hairy down there and expect 69 then for goodness' sake, mow the lawn. It's not nice for a girl having to munch through all of that undergrowth. I hate sucking balls covered in hair - it's not fun.

Learn from the experience - if she is telling the truth about you sweating then make sure this does not happen again. I'm not being awful, just making some helpful suggestions. It's not the end of the world - lots of punters are sweaty, and if they don't get the best of attention from the girl - is it any wonder?

We all mess up from time to time - God alone knows I am the world's worst for living a car crash life, but where punting is concerned, a little time and care and less rushing about leads to better more satisfying punts IMHO

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You were a sweaty betty, so she didn't want to get up close and personal with you. Do you blame her?

And as for the eye contact thing, that's just wierd. You can't force somebody to do something they don't want to do, whether you are paying them or not: you do know that, right?

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The OP says in his report that he'd had a bath, and had trimmed his fingernails. Why would he bother writing a report in the first place if he hadn't? Surely he'd then be open to rebuttal, and therefore a stupid move.

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You were a sweaty betty, so she didn't want to get up close and personal with you. Do you blame her?

And as for the eye contact thing, that's just wierd. You can't force somebody to do something they don't want to do, whether you are paying them or not: you do know that, right?

Its interesting why you immediately just take her word for everything said.This is exact the reason I was wanting the rebuttal.

Plus why are you start talking about forced in terms of eye contact. If someone will not look at you this is reason for a bad review. Why would I ever force someone. Using that type of word is bad in my opinion as it has very bad connotations.

The "reason" she did not want to get up an personal was as during shaving that morning she cut one side of her vagina. You can go yeah right but I put this in my field report on the other punting site. I mistaking left it out of the one here.

It may very well have also been that I am somewhat hairy with my genitals. But she could have just come out and said this as opposed to implying there is something more serious down there which is very juvenile of her to do.

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The OP says in his report that he'd had a bath, and had trimmed his fingernails. Why would he bother writing a report in the first place if he hadn't? Surely he'd then be open to rebuttal, and therefore a stupid move.

Because the lady mentioned these as reasons why certain services weren't available? So he was trying to 'counteract' the reasons given in his FR? (I can't see where he says he had trimmed his fingernails, by the way.)

He is a new FR author, and doesn't appear to have even been aware that rebuttals were possible.

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Doubtless, WGs do have to deal with a lot of clients who fall short in personal hygiene but it is also the case that claiming lack of cleanliness is the standard lazy defense of the poor service provider. I would recommend always having a shower at the lady's place even if you have had one at yours 5 minutes before, as it gives the good SP confidence in your cleanliness and makes one less excuse available to the poor SP.

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Because the lady mentioned these as reasons why certain services weren't available? So he was trying to 'counteract' the reasons given in his FR? (I can't see where he says he had trimmed his fingernails, by the way.)

He is a new FR author, and doesn't appear to have even been aware that rebuttals were possible.

I left a FR on another site too.

I was not aware rebuttals were possible. In future if I leave a negative feedback (which i am someone very easy to please so its unlikely) I will make sure I close every opportunity for rebuttal in my report.

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Very quick question.

But if you leave a feedback report for someone. And they then offer a rebuttal which you disagree with. Are you able to offer a rebuttal to a rebuttal?

Or if not what do you do? Just have to accept it?

If what this WG says in her rebuttal is incorrect create a thread here and inform punters this WG is a liar, thats what i would do but of course that will only reach punters who read here. :)

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Because the lady mentioned these as reasons why certain services weren't available? So he was trying to 'counteract' the reasons given in his FR? (I can't see where he says he had trimmed his fingernails, by the way.)

He is a new FR author, and doesn't appear to have even been aware that rebuttals were possible.

I saw the OPs other report, which was made before the rebuttal was placed. In it he said he'd taken a bath beforehand and also trimmed his fingernails so could not understand the reaction he got.

Perhaps it was some sort of reverse psychology so he could place a malicious report, then cover his back?

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Its interesting why you immediately just take her word for everything said.This is exact the reason I was wanting the rebuttal.

Plus why are you start talking about forced in terms of eye contact. If someone will not look at you this is reason for a bad review. Why would I ever force someone. Using that type of word is bad in my opinion as it has very bad connotations.

The "reason" she did not want to get up an personal was as during shaving that morning she cut one side of her vagina. You can go yeah right but I put this in my field report on the other punting site. I mistaking left it out of the one here.

It may very well have also been that I am somewhat hairy with my genitals. But she could have just come out and said this as opposed to implying there is something more serious down there which is very juvenile of her to do.

Honestly, you come across as being about 18 years old (are you?)

I didn't just 'take her word', I read both your FR and her rebuttal and, yes, I am inclined to believe what she says. There doesn't appear to be any malice in what she says. She doesn't even mention your hairy balls, you did. Interesting also to note that your rebuttal made no mention of her accusing you of turning up dripping of sweat and wetting the bed, so the assumption is that this is correct. Could you not have had a shower at her place?

Your FR states: 'she would not maintain eye contact, I asked a whole bunch of times and she would look at me every now and again' and then you say 'I asked her to lie next to me and to look at me which she did not really want to do'. So, by your own admission, you asked this lady numerous times to make eye contact with you. Yet you contend you were not trying to force her to do something she didn't want to do. Take the hint, bud!

You also say 'The "reason" she did not want to get up an personal was as during shaving that morning she cut one side of her vagina' - this account differs from your FR, where you clearly state: 'During the Oral with Condom I asked for a 69. She refused. But she said she can lie on her back and I can give her oral'. So which is it? Did she cut her vagina and refuse you oral, or didn't she?

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I would recommend always having a shower at the lady's place even if you have had one at yours 5 minutes before, as it gives the good SP confidence in your cleanliness and makes one less excuse available to the poor SP.

Thanks Dan this is very helpful.

One thing I have been contemplating is you see on the red booking site girls say you can have a shower with them.

That has been something I have been interested in actually doing.

So do you guys think its worth at the start of the appointment saying can we shower together.

That means

1, Your paid times is not being wasted

2. The girl cannot come back with tosh like this

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I was not aware rebuttals were possible.

Precisely.

You get to give your side of the story (FR), then the lady gets the chance to give her side. That's fair, no?

You can't have a rebuttal to a rebuttal because, as already pointed out, where would it end? There are two sides to every story, and that's why the system as it exists is fair.

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Precisely.

You get to give your side of the story (FR), then the lady gets the chance to give her side. That's fair, no?

You can't have a rebuttal to a rebuttal because, as already pointed out, where would it end? There are two sides to every story, and that's why the system as it exists is fair.

You can lead a horse to water.. you can show it the water, you can point it in the right direction and give an unbiased opinion about said water, but at the end of the day you can't make it drink, nor can you educate pork :)

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Thanks Dan this is very helpful. One thing I have been contemplating is you see on the red booking site girls say you can have a shower with them. That has been something I have been interested in actually doing. So do you guys think its worth at the start of the appointment saying can we shower together. That means 1, Your paid times is not being wasted 2. The girl cannot come back with tosh like this

Ask when enquiring about showering together to see if the WG offers it. I prefer to shower alone with the WG just outside the cubicle naked personally. If a WG is a liar she can come back with any tosh if she wants as a rebuttal is a SPs right of reply. If dishonest lying would be an easy thing to do. :)

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Honestly, you come across as being about 18 years old (are you?)

Thank you, but surely you must realise this gained nothing saying this.

I didn't just 'take her word', I read both your FR and her rebuttal and, yes, I am inclined to believe what she says. There doesn't appear to be any malice in what she says. She doesn't even mention your hairy balls, you did. Interesting also to note that your rebuttal made no mention of her accusing you of turning up dripping of sweat and wetting the bed, so the assumption is that this is correct. Could you not have had a shower at her place?

No malice?, this line is very offensive.

"When i went down stairs i was mortified at how unclean this was i won't go into detail too much but i could clearly see it still even after putting a condom on it.".

What could she "see" she is implying there is something seriously wrong down there. If there was she should have said it and not played silly games.

No I was not "dripping with sweat". But if you are having 1 hours worth of sex then there will be sweat.

I avoided replying to this as dripping with sweat is a total exaggeration in the extreme but if I am having sex there will be sweat.

You also say 'The "reason" she did not want to get up an personal was as during shaving that morning she cut one side of her vagina' - this account differs from your FR, where you clearly state: 'During the Oral with Condom I asked for a 69. She refused. But she said she can lie on her back and I can give her oral'. So which is it? Did she cut her vagina and refuse you oral, or didn't she?

If you want a full account I asked for a 69 she refused as she had cut her vagina. She said she will lie on her back and show it to me and you can give me oral when I am lying down so you can make sure to avoid it.

I made absolute sure I avoided it.

As I said this is mentioned on another sites FR. I forgot it from this one. Its not very pertinent is it though.

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We can go round and round with this but at the end of the day the only people who will know the exact truth were the two people who were in the room.

Maybe, just maybe there was some fault on both sides and a lack of chemistry between the WG and OP. Her insinuations about a dodgy dick would upset any man so of course he's offended, but if true then of course she wouldn't want to go there but quite frankly a bit of eye contact shouldn't be too much to ask from a WG.

I also wonder if despite being recently bathed after the dashing about getting lost and avoiding the security men the OP was a bit sweaty- some men sweat easily, but she should have made light of it 'Oh look at you, have you been running to see me! Have a shower first to freshen up' isn't a hard thing to do!

Chalk this one up to experience and hopefully the useful advice on the thread will hold you in good stead for the future both as a punter and a FR writer.

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