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Standard Services Becoming "extras"?

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A lady I see very frequently and who I have no end of praise for has recently changed her pricing, she used to give the most incredible BBBJ and swallow or take a facial as part of a standard booking. Now she only does this as part of a PSE booking which is twice the price! While thinking about her oral skills makes me go weak at the knees, I'm not sure how I feel about having to part with an extra £25 to do away with the condom during a bj.

Though I've never had OW from her, I can't imagine it being anywhere near as good.

What do you guys think? Pay the extra for what I know is good, be a cheapskate and take the standard service or look elsewhere?

And ladies, is this normal practice? Would you ask for more money for something you already offer, and what would motivate you to do it?

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A lady I see very frequently and who I have no end of praise for has recently changed her pricing, she used to give the most incredible BBBJ and swallow or take a facial as part of a standard booking. Now she only does this as part of a PSE booking which is twice the price! While thinking about her oral skills makes me go weak at the knees, I'm not sure how I feel about having to part with an extra £25 to do away with the condom during a bj.

Though I've never had OW from her, I can't imagine it being anywhere near as good.

What do you guys think? Pay the extra for what I know is good, be a cheapskate and take the standard service or look elsewhere?

And ladies, is this normal practice? Would you ask for more money for something you already offer, and what would motivate you to do it?

In my experience most WGs who add a cost for a service or put their standard rate up havent done so with me if i have already punted with them, in fact its usually the opposite with WGs offering me without me asking a discount for being a regular.

OW is of zero interest to me whereas OWO is essential so it would be a case of whether i wlould pay the extra £25. If her fee was very reasonable to start with and she was good i would probably be willing to pay the extra but if her fee was on the borderline of my usual hourly maximum of £150 i would probably go elsewhere unless i viewed her as excellent. I will go and have many times gone over £150 an hour but i would have to rate the WG highly to do so. Some flexibility being worth it in my opinion based on WGs i would of missed out on by being rigid in my thinking. :)

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Should have probably mentioned her rate is £50 per half hour standard, £75 for 30mins or £125 for the hour with OWO and swallowing.

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Not for me as a WG to comment on how other ladies structure their pricing. I have always done the same things and never added or taken away a service for more or less payment - and I never will. I charge what I do because I can, and I feel I am worth every damned penny since I deliver a good service and do not clock watch.

If your lady has changed her pricing structure then that is up to you to decide if she is worth the extra or not - but i would say one thing - When I worked under another name I raised my prices by £20 for the hour. I did not raise those prices for people I saw regularly, although some of them automatically paid up anyway.

Her rate does not seem exorbitant to me but them I do not know where she is in the UK. Some places have a ceiling on what the ladies can charge and the guys won't pay a penny more. That's why some places are apparently 'barren' when ladies who charge that bit more, tour there.

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If a lady is in the happy position where she has achieved a certain popularity and positive reputation and can start thinking about raising her prices then she has two choices: either she can increase her basic rate or she can introduce/charge more for extras. I don't like extras so i would rather the lady increased her basic rate and continued not to charge extras but I would guess this lady thinks she is being fairer giving guys the choice of paying the same rate for reduced services or paying the extras.

If you find a good service provider the chances are other guys will find her too, she'll become popular and, sooner or later, her prices will go up. You then have to decide what you want to do. Other people can't make that choice for you. But, that said, £125ph for all services is hardly extortionate and genuinely good SPs are hard to find.

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If you find a good service provider the chances are other guys will find her too, she'll become popular and, sooner or later, her prices will go up. This is true :) You then have to decide what you want to do. and genuinely good SPs are hard to find. This is also very true :) :)

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Should have probably mentioned her rate is £50 per half hour standard, £75 for 30mins or £125 for the hour with OWO and swallowing.

If i rated her good or better i would pay the increased fee then if it were me as the service she offers would be worth more to me than the increase in her hourly rate at that hourly rate. :)

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A lady I see very frequently and who I have no end of praise for has recently changed her pricing, she used to give the most incredible BBBJ and swallow or take a facial as part of a standard booking. Now she only does this as part of a PSE booking which is twice the price!

I can remember a recent topic where someone asked about this and the overall consensus was the girl was trying it on. (I cannot link to it as it was on a different forum)

If your regular increases her prices then she should still see you at the same price, she is being daft upping the price to you. Really many have said if they were a regular for a girl they would expect the price to go down and not up.

Its only a little bit more, but really I think you should on the next time you book put it along the lines of "its a shame that I will not be able to see you no more due to putting the prices up" and see how she reacts once the ball is in her court.

A good service provider will relent and offer you the same service at your continued price.

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Should have probably mentioned her rate is £50 per half hour standard, £75 for 30mins or £125 for the hour with OWO and swallowing.

That sounds very reasonable to me. I would happily pay that if I knew the lady was clean, enthusiastic, and had a good attitude.

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Its only a little bit more, but really I think you should on the next time you book put it along the lines of "its a shame that I will not be able to see you no more due to putting the prices up" and see how she reacts once the ball is in her court.

A good service provider will relent and offer you the same service at your continued price.

Not necessary, she may not feel the need to relent her prices for this particular individual if she's getting satisfactory business elsewhere. It depends entirely on how she views the situation.

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Not necessary, she may not feel the need to relent her prices for this particular individual if she's getting satisfactory business elsewhere. It depends entirely on how she views the situation.

Good post

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A good service provider will relent and offer you the same service at your continued price.

Actually AnthG, I knew your name was familiar, you've left a glowing FR for her on the other site, she is a lovely young BBW in Newcastle, do you think she is worth the additional money? It would be nice to have your opinion since you've seen her too and know the quality of her goods.

That sounds very reasonable to me. I would happily pay that if I knew the lady was clean, enthusiastic, and had a good attitude.

Oh she is all that, I know it sounds like I'm spitting my dummy out over a few quid but it seems she's taking quickies off the table too, so instead of a quick BJ, if I want owo I have to take a 30min booking for £75 instead of the £30 she was charging...

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Actually AnthG, I knew your name was familiar, you've left a glowing FR for her on the other site, she is a lovely young BBW in Newcastle, do you think she is worth the additional money? It would be nice to have your opinion since you've seen her too and know the quality of her goods.

Oh she is all that, I know it sounds like I'm spitting my dummy out over a few quid but it seems she's taking quickies off the table too, so instead of a quick BJ, if I want owo I have to take a 30min booking for £75 instead of the £30 she was charging...

Time to move on I think, but maybe have a chat with her and ask the question

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Next time I am in Tesco's I will enquire if I can keep the old prices of my basket favourites because I was a customer before they upped the prices of staples, if not I will shop around until I find somewhere that has prices I am happy with.

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Actually AnthG, I knew your name was familiar, you've left a glowing FR for her on the other site, she is a lovely young BBW in Newcastle, do you think she is worth the additional money? It would be nice to have your opinion since you've seen her too and know the quality of her goods.

You are asking me for another review of a girl I have saw once, and had a very nice appointment with, but who is your regular???

If a girl is your regular, it means you have invested time and money and shows you are reliable. Its not easy for Escorts to find reliable punters so she is losing from you more than you are losing from her.

I am going to avoid suggesting for an individual girl. especially one I have saw and would like some day to see again and keep it as generic advice.

So I will quote some good suggestions after finding the other topic of the same scenario

MOST Genuine girls will honour regular customers arrangements and as such just charge the extra's to new clients.

If a regular starts adding on extra's it's time to move on, if you like her then perhaps it's worth saying, oh it's a shame you are putting yoru prices up for me as I enjoyed seeing you" Its then her call to either offer to keep your rate the same and keep you as a client or lose you as a client.

Sounds like she may see you as a soft touch & thinks she can screw you for more money when you're screwing her, although it is possible, like you said, that she doesn't want your business any more for whatever reason.

Personally, if I had been seeing someone regularly & they tried this with me I'd go elsewhere. Her loss, not yours

More evidence that most WGs are very poor business people.
At the risk of repeating myself ----------------- if they ran a normal business they would be bankrupt in weeks rather than months.

Most are totally clueless, for example when they say they don't display a telephone number because of timewasters, can you imagine a double glazing company adopting that policy.

In that thread it was unanimous bar one person of don't go back, the one person who said go back was me. And my suggestion was to do what i said in the other post. Take the advice of 30 or so experienced punters, or me. Or just pay the extra money. My suggestion means you still see the girl at the normal rate. Everyone wins.

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AnthG, I don't think cutting and pasting quotes from UKP is going to win you any friends here. That forum is predominantly for people who resent paying at all so of course they are going to froth and bluster about any SP who puts her prices up. Their views are not worth repeating.

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AnthG, I don't think cutting and pasting quotes from UKP is going to win you any friends here. That forum is predominantly for people who resent paying at all so of course they are going to froth and bluster about any SP who puts her prices up. Their views are not worth repeating.

Sorry I was just trying to help the OP out.

Good advice is good advice no matter which forum it came from. I may be somewhat new to this but I took it as good advice. Even though as I said I suggested otherwise and to ask the girl to continue with the same amount.

But I will disagree with the resent paying at all. If they did I would not be a member there.

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Anth, it really isn't hard for prostitutes to find reliable punters - clear, informative and above all honest advertising coupled with proper screening, booking and confirmation procedures to weed out the numpties makes this a breeze. I don't have any trouble doing either, and whilst nobody is to everybody's taste, the vast majority of problems seem to start when one side or the other doesn't keep to their half of the bargain, dishonest advertising (age, dress size, services) being a major factor on one side and bad manners, haggling and boundary pushing being examples on the other. My punters as a result are great people who I like and respect, and I look forward to seeing them.

I would be very interested to see this 'evidence' about prostitutes being poor business people, assuming it is actually evidence and not just a bit of hearsay, speculation and (punter) opinion cobbled together from reading message boards and looking at a few badly executed Adultwоrk profiles. It isn't that I either agree or disagree on the point being made, I just doubt very much that there is 'evidence', any more than there is evidence that 'most' publicans, mechanics or florists are lousy business people?

Punters, however experienced they are, know about being punters. Prostitutes know about being prostitutes. Having been one for almost nine years, I think I can speak with a little more authority on what it's like :).

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There is a reason why most will not go to UGAYGRUNTING because of the same jaded crap they venomously spit out all the time, If I wanted to see it I would rejoin.

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the vast majority of problems seem to start when one side or the other doesn't keep to their half of the bargain, dishonest advertising (age, dress size, services) being a major factor on one side and bad manners, haggling and boundary pushing being examples on the other.

Totally agree with this statement

I think the bad punters or bad wgs are what makes it so much harder for the genuine ones on both sides.

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Anth, it really isn't hard for prostitutes to find reliable punters

Yes but my point is encapsulated by the it isn't hard. The OP's Escort has a reliable, honest, paying punter who does not push boundries.

It will take effort on the Escort to replace him. I know you said it isn't hard, but I could say it isn't hard for me, as an example. to get a PS3 console cheaper than my regular store that I go to and trust will sell it to me for. I could drive 20 miles and get it cheaper. Point being it will still take the Escort effort to replace the punter just like it will take the OP effort to find a reliable replacement as his regular.

At the offence to my posted links, I never said which forum they come from. I could have said I found this topic from years ago here so here is what was suggested and it would have still been good advice.

I think from my limited experience with Pnet is that there are two possible clashes (if thats the right word). The SP's want to ensure fellow SPs get the most money from the best service they can provide.

The punter members will want to ensure their fellow punter members get the best service for the lowest amount from Escorts.

It would be like if all the staff at Sony were members of the Ps3 forum alongside customers. Some posts would be why can we not have this cheaper. The staff would be like why can you not pay more for this. There is a happy medium in the two clashing sides which is what I hope Pnet aims for. (if I am wrong I am sorry).

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Yes but my point is encapsulated by the it isn't hard. The OP's Escort has a reliable, honest, paying punter who does not push boundries.

It will take effort on the Escort to replace him. I know you said it isn't hard, but I could say it isn't hard for me, as an example. to get a PS3 console cheaper than my regular store that I go to and trust will sell it to me for. I could drive 20 miles and get it cheaper. Point being it will still take the Escort effort to replace the punter just like it will take the OP effort to find a reliable replacement as his regular.

At the offence to my posted links, I never said which forum they come from. I could have said I found this topic from years ago here so here is what was suggested and it would have still been good advice.

I think from my limited experience with Pnet is that there are two possible clashes (if thats the right word). The SP's want to ensure fellow SPs get the most money from the best service they can provide.

The punter members will want to ensure their fellow punter members get the best service for the lowest amount from Escorts.

It would be like if all the staff at Sony were members of the Ps3 forum alongside customers. Some posts would be why can we not have this cheaper. The staff would be like why can you not pay more for this. There is a happy medium in the two clashing sides which is what I hope Pnet aims for. (if I am wrong I am sorry).

I think it's actually easier to get new customers than it is to hang on to current ones long term, and this is proved to some extent by the sheer numbers of crap providers who remain in business without having to care about repeat custom - the real effort for me comes with making people want to keep coming back month after month and year after year.

If I decided to change/raise my fees I would expect a decent regular to either respect this and continue visting, or say thanks but no thanks and go elsewhere, but certainly not quibble or argue any more than I would expect my local restaurant to knock my bill down for me if they changed the menu and put the prices up. What I would expect (as a good customer) in this instance would be maybe them finding me a table at short notice, or an occasional drink/coffee on the house say, but not money off. Likewise my regulars often get extra time, shorter notice or later appointments than I normally offer or a bit of lunch, or whatever.

My fees are reasonable for my area and if ten pounds or whatever was such a massive difference for a punter I would question whether they ought to be spending money on prostitutes at all. Most people I know have seen their wages rise at least one or more times in the last few years, and my gas, electricity and food bills have rocketed alongside everybody elses. If the lady the OP mentions was not happy working the way she was, it would have started showing in her service soon enough and if changing her MO to a way that she is comfortable with means that a handful go elsewhere then this is a small price to pay for being able to work without being stressed and feeling miserable, which will benefit both her new clients and the ones that stay.

As for the last bit, my nana used to happily drive three miles to get to a shop that sold loaves of bread five pence cheaper than the one nearer her, Gawd love her. It took more time, and cost more in the end because of the petrol but she just couldn't see past the price sticker.

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As for the last bit, my nana used to happily drive three miles to get to a shop that sold loaves of bread five pence cheaper than the one nearer her, Gawd love her. It took more time, and cost more in the end because of the petrol but she just couldn't see past the price sticker.

The architectural historian Nikolaus Pevsner remarked that "the British spare no expense to get something on the cheap". Which seems like a very acute observation to me.

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It will take effort on the Escort to replace him.

Point being it will still take the Escort effort to

replace the punter just like it will take the OP effort to find a reliable replacement.

It's not a relationship! She doesn't rely on him as her only source of income and I highly doubt she will find it hard to 'replace' him if she is as popular as alleged.

Regulars come and go - it's the nature of the business. If she chooses to keep him at the old rate she can, but she certainly doesn't owe him that at all. The OP has the 3 choices - depending on the nature of their working relationship, wait to see if she chooses to offer to see him at her old rate, pay the extra or move on.

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I would like to point out I haven't spoken to the lady in question yet as she is on holiday, all this is reading from her profile, so she may indeed say that as a good regular I can have the old rate. I don't think I would feel comfortable asking for it though. As others have said, I wouldn't expect that anywhere else and I understand she is trying to run a business. She can be booked up for several days sometimes, so I guess she is popular enough that she can afford a price hike, maybe it will be easier getting in to see her now?

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