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Having read the New York Times article flagged up in a recent post and seen several views and observations made in the forum on bareback sex, (the offering of which seems to be on the rise if certain escort details are to be believed), I would be interested to know if anyone has ever been or knows of anyone who has ever been infected to any degree as a result of actually having bareback sex with an escort in recent times.

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Having read the New York Times article flagged up in a recent post and seen several views and observations made in the forum on bareback sex, (the offering of which seems to be on the rise if certain escort details are to be believed), I would be interested to know if anyone has ever been or knows of anyone who has ever been infected to any degree as a result of actually having bareback sex with an escort in recent times.

Now there's a question destined to elicit 'true confessions'. It's 'name-and-shame' time! Seriously, this question is pointless - how many people would you expect to answer honestly here, if at all? How useful would the replies be? What conclusions could be drawn from the anonymous replies of a comparatively small, self-selected group of punters and WGs? It is queries like this that end up with interminable exchanges of moralising and finger pointing until the popcorn runs out. My whole point, as OP of the thread you cited, was that hard facts are few between and the usual anecdotal or selective 'evidence' merely obfuscates the problem. Personally, I doubt that there is a huge difference between the behaviour of US youth and UK youth, despite the fact that the former live in 'the land of the free and the home of the brave', and I suspect that the more libertine behaviour of their elders over there very likely is approximated over here by our over-25s. But I would like to know, based on carefully collected and analysed info done by a reputable independent polling organisation. :rolleyes:

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Or you could wonder if there has ever been an escort infected through bb with a client :angry:

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Now there's a question destined to elicit 'true confessions'. It's 'name-and-shame' time! Seriously, this question is pointless - how many people would you expect to answer honestly here, if at all? How useful would the replies be? What conclusions could be drawn from the anonymous replies of a comparatively small, self-selected group of punters and WGs? It is queries like this that end up with interminable exchanges of moralising and finger pointing until the popcorn runs out. My whole point, as OP of the thread you cited, was that hard facts are few between and the usual anecdotal or selective 'evidence' merely obfuscates the problem. Personally, I doubt that there is a huge difference between the behaviour of US youth and UK youth, despite the fact that the former live in 'the land of the free and the home of the brave', and I suspect that the more libertine behaviour of their elders over there very likely is approximated over here by our over-25s. But I would like to know, based on carefully collected and analysed info done by a reputable independent polling organisation. :rolleyes:

I always assume that people report or give an honest opinion in the forum. I believe those who say they would never offer or partake of bareback sex, so why should I not believe those who say they know of someone who has been infected via bareback sex with an escort. The aim is not to "name and shame" or elicit "true confessions" rather to get an idea in reality rather than hypothesizing in the abstract. I am sure views expressed will be reflective of this section of the punting community and be as believable and valid as all the other views expressed here. I was not looking for material to flesh out a Phd dissertation.

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Having read the New York Times article flagged up in a recent post and seen several views and observations made in the forum on bareback sex, (the offering of which seems to be on the rise if certain escort details are to be believed), I would be interested to know if anyone has ever been or knows of anyone who has ever been infected to any degree as a result of actually having bareback sex with an escort in recent times.

Infection and disease tend to be bad selling points in this industry and any that have contracted anything would hardly take two steps forward and shout I am Spartacus, much the same would go to anyone they knew. I could not imagine on a girls night out with us all sat round the table sipping our drinks and saying "you will never guess what I got"

You are delving into the dark and murky waters. Bare back does go on no doubts about it but even those offering it would shy away from "have you got infected" so I very much doubt you will find any real answers to your question.

I use to get asked for BB but even the requests have stopped. I can not even remember the last time being asked which must be some kind of indication that public awareness has improved.

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I always assume that people report or give an honest opinion in the forum. I believe those who say they would never offer or partake of bareback sex, so why should I not believe those who say they know of someone who has been infected via bareback sex with an escort. The aim is not to "name and shame" or elicit "true confessions" rather to get an idea in reality rather than hypothesizing in the abstract. I am sure views expressed will be reflective of this section of the punting community and be as believable and valid as all the other views expressed here. I was not looking for material to flesh out a Phd dissertation.

Enjoy your thread then, and it's inevitable outcome. Do let us know the ultimate answer to 'the Ultimate Question' when you arrive at it. :rolleyes:

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The fact that most towns have a GUM clinic, tells you all you need to know about BB pen and STD's!

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The fact that most towns have a GUM clinic, tells you all you need to know about BB pen and STD's!

As many will be happy to tell you here, at length, there are many ways to get STIs beside engaging in bareback sex. :rolleyes: Edited by Tiggy 7

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Had the split condom experience once at a parlour - must be about 20 years ago - didn't catch anything though.

Did she? :rolleyes:

This why I just LURVE threads like this!

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Infection and disease tend to be bad selling points in this industry and any that have contracted anything would hardly take two steps forward and shout I am Spartacus, much the same would go to anyone they knew. I could not imagine on a girls night out with us all sat round the table sipping our drinks and saying "you will never guess what I got"

You are delving into the dark and murky waters. Bare back does go on no doubts about it but even those offering it would shy away from "have you got infected" so I very much doubt you will find any real answers to your question.

I use to get asked for BB but even the requests have stopped. I can not even remember the last time being asked which must be some kind of indication that public awareness has improved.

Nah, you're losing it! :P

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Nah, you're losing it! :P

So are you saying I had it

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Enjoy your thread then, and it's inevitable outcome. Do let us know the ultimate answer to 'the Ultimate Question' when you arrive at it. :rolleyes:

Oh, for heaven's sake! It is 42. Surely you know that?

(And, incidentally, without wishing to take the Hitch-hikers' Guide in vain, I'd suggest that a woman is at her most attractive and exciting at 42!)

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Oh, for heaven's sake! It is 42. Surely you know that?

(And, incidentally, without wishing to take the Hitch-hikers' Guide in vain, I'd suggest that a woman is at her most attractive and exciting at 42!)

You've been peeking! Well, that's it, - thread closed. :lol:

(ps, please PM me Lou's details)

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I use to get asked for BB but even the requests have stopped. I can not even remember the last time being asked which must be some kind of indication that public awareness has improved.

Ill second that, the number of BB requests have all but dwindled out, and too right too!

Sue x

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Ill second that, the number of BB requests have all but dwindled out, and too right too!

Sue x

I have never that I can remember been asked for it in the UK, in NZ was a different story, several times a day you would get the how much without question.

Girls give it without advertising the fact tho, I have been surprised a few times, some punters are shockingly indiscreet with their pillow talk!

S x

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Bare back sex is great, we all know this. But it is a total no no in the paid sex industry. The odds will catch up with you and then you will get one of the wonderfuly exotic diseases out there. Why take the risk?

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Bareback aside what always gets me is owo, do people not realise owo is pretty much just as bad as bb when it comes to spreading infections etc :unsure:

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Bareback aside what always gets me is owo, do people not realise owo is pretty much just as bad as bb when it comes to spreading infections etc :unsure:

I haven't checked but I suspect that you are very new to this board. There are very few 'truths' that have eluded us, even fewer opinions unexpressed, on the subject of BB, OWO and practically any other form of risky sexual practice that might excite your curiosity or your fancy. You have hit the mother lode! :) Edited by Tiggy 7

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I always assume that people report or give an honest opinion in the forum. I believe those who say they would never offer or partake of bareback sex, so why should I not believe those who say they know of someone who has been infected via bareback sex with an escort. The aim is not to "name and shame" or elicit "true confessions" rather to get an idea in reality rather than hypothesizing in the abstract. I am sure views expressed will be reflective of this section of the punting community and be as believable and valid as all the other views expressed here. I was not looking for material to flesh out a Phd dissertation.

I agree with Tiggy in that the question is somewhat pointless. I think the mere fact that STIs do in fact exist and the surest way of catching one is through BB Sex then it is highly probable that someone must have caught some kind of STI somewhere in the world. Or are you specifically interested in a board member knowing someone who may have caught one without naming and shaming of course. If the latter is true then I have to wonder why you ask the question.

I agree with you that the members of the board are always honest in their answers. If you ask me if I have ever had BB sex with an escort then the answer is "of course not". If you ask me if I or someone I know caught anything doing so then the answer is "I know not of any such person" :D

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The are increasing number of girls are doing BB sex.

They are taking serious risk.

One mistake can cost the life

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The are increasing number of girls are doing BB sex.

Where are you sourcing your info

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One mistake can cost the life

You want to live forever?

I rarely punt punt these days, if I want sex I do the swinging scene where BB is very common, still clear as of last week. However on the punting scene, to be honest, I've encountered it several times. The first was with a a WG early on in my punting days where we both took a liking to each other fairly quickly. It turned into a relationship, in the end I split from my then wife and we ended up virtually living together most of the time. However in the earlier days of our time when it was still professional, she suggested that as I only had sex with my wife as well as her and she only saw one other punter BB who didn't have sex with anyone else why didn't we do it without. I took her up on the idea with happiness, let's face it, sex is far better without. Her next GUM visit a month or so later she has Chlamydia, I got tested, later found I was negative, spiked my then wifes drinks and food with extra drugs I got by going to a second GUM clinic. Later when we split my then Mrs got checked out and she was negative. My WG always said she thought she'd got it from a a guy she'd met in a club around the time we'd first met, I always suspected the other punter who only ever saw her was responsible, don't think it was my now ex-wife.

My next encounter was with a lady then well known on here, just before I split from my then wife. We did an overnight in a Birmingham hotel, got very drunk and stoned before returning to the hotel, where she drew me in for anal and shook her head when I mentioned did she want a condom? Whe went through the night all BB. After I did an FR on the night another PN Member mailed me to ask if we had done BB, so presumably I was not the first. I saw her again twice, once on a social meet, once on a very discounted do, both times we did BB. Since then I've had BB with a couple of other WGs, never asked for, just happened, it has happened again on other meets with the ladies in question.

Am I some strange exception to the rule, I don't know. As I say I do most of my fucking through the swinging scene where it is mainly BB, plus the odd pick-up, I do see one WG off and on, she is always BB with me, met her through **, the rest through. There you go, honesty from a male slut.

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Having read the New York Times article flagged up in a recent post and seen several views and observations made in the forum on bareback sex, (the offering of which seems to be on the rise if certain escort details are to be believed), I would be interested to know if anyone has ever been or knows of anyone who has ever been infected to any degree as a result of actually having bareback sex with an escort in recent times.

It is fair to say, that its always been around in my opinion. Over my 15years or so of Punting, I have been offered it, I reckon on a ratio of 1:10 punts. I have always refrained from 'BB FULL STOP' !! 'NO EXCEPTIONS'. I very rarely have Full Sexual Intercourse, with the WG anyways. When I do so, with them its only with an WG / Escort I've seen quite a bit. Its always PROTECTED.

The only person, I would have UN-PROTECTED SEX, with would be a long-term partner / wife !.

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The thought of reproducing is enough to make me hood up. I was extra careful when I started punting but gradually, as a result of having difficulty cumming in a condom. I asked for oral without prior to sex which has helped. We all know the risks and on our own backs be it.

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You want to live forever?

I rarely punt punt these days, if I want sex I do the swinging scene where BB is very common, still clear as of last week. However on the punting scene, to be honest, I've encountered it several times. The first was with a a WG early on in my punting days where we both took a liking to each other fairly quickly. It turned into a relationship, in the end I split from my then wife and we ended up virtually living together most of the time. However in the earlier days of our time when it was still professional, she suggested that as I only had sex with my wife as well as her and she only saw one other punter BB who didn't have sex with anyone else why didn't we do it without. I took her up on the idea with happiness, let's face it, sex is far better without. Her next GUM visit a month or so later she has Chlamydia, I got tested, later found I was negative, spiked my then wifes drinks and food with extra drugs I got by going to a second GUM clinic. Later when we split my then Mrs got checked out and she was negative. My WG always said she thought she'd got it from a a guy she'd met in a club around the time we'd first met, I always suspected the other punter who only ever saw her was responsible, don't think it was my now ex-wife.

My next encounter was with a lady then well known on here, just before I split from my then wife. We did an overnight in a Birmingham hotel, got very drunk and stoned before returning to the hotel, where she drew me in for anal and shook her head when I mentioned did she want a condom? Whe went through the night all BB. After I did an FR on the night another PN Member mailed me to ask if we had done BB, so presumably I was not the first. I saw her again twice, once on a social meet, once on a very discounted do, both times we did BB. Since then I've had BB with a couple of other WGs, never asked for, just happened, it has happened again on other meets with the ladies in question.

Am I some strange exception to the rule, I don't know. As I say I do most of my fucking through the swinging scene where it is mainly BB, plus the odd pick-up, I do see one WG off and on, she is always BB with me, met her through **, the rest through. There you go, honesty from a male slut.

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