Sarah Summers

Help ! I'm In A Quandary

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I know........... I've been doing this for years so why ask now, but please hear me out.

I hardly work, and then I will have sporadic bursts where I do work. Each time I return to the job I feel like a novice.

I saw a guy about eighteen months ago. I remember we had a nice time.

I saw him again last week. I saw him at 6.30 and we talked a little and then we played. He had a massive orgasm. Then we talked about everything - his family, his job etc etc.. then he went to the loo. I glanced at my watch and it was almost 9.00. I had no idea we had run over for so long.

I told him the time and he seemed shocked and disappointed. He expressed a wish to carry on but the meet was ended because it had gone on for so long. Now I feel that he was not best served by me. It is bugging me and I am not sure what to do about it.

Any sensible constructive thoughts please?

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It sounds like you both enjoyed it though and the time got away from you, nothing wrong in that I guess.

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He has nothing to complain about. I am sure you were very pleasant when you broke the news. You should put any guilty thoughts out of your mind, there is nothing you should do.

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I don't understand how he was not best served by you - you chatted to him for two hours?!

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Oh Sarah! Am glad it's not just me who does this- not as often these days though but it can happen if a guy is great company. I really believe that some men do see WGs because they enjoy female company and good conversation or have someone to listen to them (and obviously want some sex too) and it's the whole package of a meet that's enjoyable to them not just the playing. I also think if he wanted more sexy time he would have made it clear, or at least he should have, it's his gig so to speak and if he chose to spend the time chatting that was his choice.

I would suggest that next time you meet you casually mention you have to be somewhere at X time so he knows he can't get more time out of you again- unless you're happy to give him more time that is. I've learnt (cynical moment here) that if you overrun by a lot with a guy he will expect it everytime!

But don't worry, really!

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Sarah - there is a danger that having publcised the fact you overran, all guys will want extra time.

I also think that it's one of your endearing qualities that you don't shove the guy on the street within minutes of full time. We met many ago and I was a good 30 mins over time, and I was quite conscious of it, as I don't like to be seen to be taking advantage of a lday's time. In reality, the guy should be paying extra or you are working for peanuts per hour.

That said, topical, intelligent and stimulating covnersation with a beautiful lady over a glass of Pinot Grigot is hard to beat as the session usually goes really well, and I've found there are not many ladies that have such a broad church of knowledge that they can talk for England (in the nicest possible way) about anything.

Could it be that the best way forward is allow a little extra, but then start to be assertive, and as London Lydia says, explain you have to be somewhere.

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Can I just ask how long ran ran over by before I give my take on it ?

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Some months ago I saw a new girl who struck my fancy and I booked her for an hour outcall to my place.

When she arrived I asked her if she wanted a drink. Tea made we carried on the conversation on the sofa and discovered that we had a subject in common and chatted away.

Slowly we got a little intimate between sentences before making a move to the bedroom.

After such a slow, get to know you introduction the sex was rather good and she certainly appeared to be having a nice time and not just once.

Next she started to pay a lot of attention to me, not that she had been ignoring me and more fun was had.

Another cup of tea followed, more chatting but no more intimacy, well a few kisses and cuddles.

Then her phone went off and her friend was asking where she was and was she going out for the evening. At this point I, and I think she, noticed that she had been at my place for four hours!

Now to aid your information database Sarah;

She will not visit me again because she feels I should have paid her for the extra hours and that I had "robbed" her of her time.

I know we went on for more than an hour but I honestly felt lost in a "time warp" when she was here because everything just flowed along.

She was not inexperienced and I feel, naturally, that it was up to her to move the appointment along if she was in that concerned about the time.

So the end result is that she has lost a customer, I have lost a nice girl, all because a time misunderstanding.

I feel we should have been able to discuss what happened and both agreed that when we met that either;

An hour is an hour or we have an hour of intimacy and if SHE wants to chat and drink tea, that is her to control.

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Sarah - there is a danger that having publcised the fact you overran, all guys will want extra time.

I also think that it's one of your endearing qualities that you don't shove the guy on the street within minutes of full time. We met many ago and I was a good 30 mins over time, and I was quite conscious of it, as I don't like to be seen to be taking advantage of a lday's time. In reality, the guy should be paying extra or you are working for peanuts per hour.

That said, topical, intelligent and stimulating covnersation with a beautiful lady over a glass of Pinot Grigot is hard to beat as the session usually goes really well, and I've found there are not many ladies that have such a broad church of knowledge that they can talk for England (in the nicest possible way) about anything.

Could it be that the best way forward is allow a little extra, but then start to be assertive, and as London Lydia says, explain you have to be somewhere.

It also makes me think about the guys who do book and pay for a longer booking, it isn't really fair. This isn't to say that you shouldn't relax and forget time everyonce in a while though!

Enjoy but be fair on yourself as well as your clients.

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If he was 'disappointed' the appointment ended that means he was having a great time.

That is something you can be proud of, not bugged about.

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Some months ago I saw a new girl who struck my fancy and I booked her for an hour outcall to my place.

When she arrived I asked her if she wanted a drink. Tea made we carried on the conversation on the sofa and discovered that we had a subject in common and chatted away.

Slowly we got a little intimate between sentences before making a move to the bedroom.

After such a slow, get to know you introduction the sex was rather good and she certainly appeared to be having a nice time and not just once.

Next she started to pay a lot of attention to me, not that she had been ignoring me and more fun was had.

Another cup of tea followed, more chatting but no more intimacy, well a few kisses and cuddles.

Then her phone went off and her friend was asking where she was and was she going out for the evening. At this point I, and I think she, noticed that she had been at my place for four hours!

Now to aid your information database Sarah;

She will not visit me again because she feels I should have paid her for the extra hours and that I had "robbed" her of her time.

I know we went on for more than an hour but I honestly felt lost in a "time warp" when she was here because everything just flowed along.

She was not inexperienced and I feel, naturally, that it was up to her to move the appointment along if she was in that concerned about the time.

So the end result is that she has lost a customer, I have lost a nice girl, all because a time misunderstanding.

I feel we should have been able to discuss what happened and both agreed that when we met that either;

An hour is an hour or we have an hour of intimacy and if SHE wants to chat and drink tea, that is her to control.

I'm not a clockwatcher unless it's been the rare occasion where it's like pulling teeth, and have an allowance of time I'll probably run over (some appointments I automatically add on extra time before I start - there'll no doubts be gabbing and catching up) but there is no way I could be 'missing' for more than half an hour before somebody was trying to contact me and if an hour had elapsed there would be a knock at the door.

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I'm not a clockwatcher unless it's been the rare occasion where it's like pulling teeth, and have an allowance of time I'll probably run over (some appointments I automatically add on extra time before I start - there'll no doubts be gabbing and catching up) but there is no way I could be 'missing' for more than half an hour before somebody was trying to contact me and if an hour had elapsed there would be a knock at the door.

Melanie, as I wrote that I thought that I should point out that it was not her "security" call.

It was just a friend asking if she was going out that night.

Rightly or wrongly she had no security in place.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Sarah, I don't feel you did anything wrong at all. Clients are paying for your time and that is that.

I did overrun on the one booking I have made, I felt quite guilty about it and apologised, but the lady seemed fine.

The difficulty for me was I didn't have a watch and could not see any clock to be accurate with the time. I mean, how do you approach the subject? It would seem rude to ask the time or suddendly get-up to check your phone for the time?

I'm sure some clients would try to take advantage, as this guy sounds like he did, but also some don't, like the situation outlined and it can be a mistake. I think it is upto the escort to dictate her own preference, but understand also it is a tricky subject to approach. I'd take a "times up laddy" fine, I'm sure some guys wouldn't.

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Melanie, as I wrote that I thought that I should point out that it was not her "security" call.

It was just a friend asking if she was going out that night.

Rightly or wrongly she had no security in place.

Sorry for the confusion.

Corus Boy, no need to clarify. Regardless of whether it was, or wasn't a security call that's a long time to be running over an appointment with a new client without somebody getting seriously worried about where you are.

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I know........... I've been doing this for years so why ask now, but please hear me out.

I hardly work, and then I will have sporadic bursts where I do work. Each time I return to the job I feel like a novice.

I saw a guy about eighteen months ago. I remember we had a nice time.

I saw him again last week. I saw him at 6.30 and we talked a little and then we played. He had a massive orgasm. Then we talked about everything - his family, his job etc etc.. then he went to the loo. I glanced at my watch and it was almost 9.00. I had no idea we had run over for so long.

I told him the time and he seemed shocked and disappointed. He expressed a wish to carry on but the meet was ended because it had gone on for so long. Now I feel that he was not best served by me. It is bugging me and I am not sure what to do about it.

Any sensible constructive thoughts please?

If he was disappointed, it means you did your job well and he wanted more :)

He'll be back. You have nothing to feel guilty about at all. You went over the time, realized it and that's that.

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..... I've learnt (cynical moment here) that if you overrun by a lot with a guy he will expect it everytime!

Perhaps in the light of that observation you would be kind enough to advise me. Just over a year ago I saw a lovely lady for the second time. I arrived at 1400 hours for a two hour appointment. At 2130 hours, during which time I had made repeated references to how much time had elapsed, we finished. I was completely hammered so she gave me a lift to the station. I offered her more money and asked that she stop at the cashpoint. She wouldn't hear of it and told me that she thoroughly enjoyed herself and it was her decision to extend. Since then I have been too embarrassed to make another appointment because I'm frightened that, like you, she might think that I expect an additional five and a half hours. I certainly don't and I feel very awkward. Coincidentally we spoke last week and she told me not to be so silly but I'm still anxious. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

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Perhaps in the light of that observation you would be kind enough to advise me. Just over a year ago I saw a lovely lady for the second time. I arrived at 1400 hours for a two hour appointment. At 2130 hours, during which time I had made repeated references to how much time had elapsed, we finished. I was completely hammered so she gave me a lift to the station. I offered her more money and asked that she stop at the cashpoint. She wouldn't hear of it and told me that she thoroughly enjoyed herself and it was her decision to extend. Since then I have been too embarrassed to make another appointment because I'm frightened that, like you, she might think that I expect an additional five and a half hours. I certainly don't and I feel very awkward. Coincidentally we spoke last week and she told me not to be so silly but I'm still anxious. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Whats the big deal ?

Relax !

Very similar happened to me recently - essentially the punt turned into an unplanned overnighter that was EXTREMELY heavily discounted, and I've returned numerous times since, usually staying for the allotted pre-booked time, sometimes over-running slightly, sometimes over-running by quite a margin, but no awkwardness and no embarrassment.

If the lady in question is neither awkward nor embarrassed then why should you be ?

Just go with it, always in the knowledge that she's in charge.

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Perhaps in the light of that observation you would be kind enough to advise me. Just over a year ago I saw a lovely lady for the second time. I arrived at 1400 hours for a two hour appointment. At 2130 hours, during which time I had made repeated references to how much time had elapsed, we finished. I was completely hammered so she gave me a lift to the station. I offered her more money and asked that she stop at the cashpoint. She wouldn't hear of it and told me that she thoroughly enjoyed herself and it was her decision to extend. Since then I have been too embarrassed to make another appointment because I'm frightened that, like you, she might think that I expect an additional five and a half hours. I certainly don't and I feel very awkward. Coincidentally we spoke last week and she told me not to be so silly but I'm still anxious. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Quite simple, just say "I'd like to book you for two hours but will have to leave at Xpm". You might let it overrun again at a later date but it will make it clear it isn't expected, or the norm.

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Interesting question Sarah, I think the onus lies with both parties to be fair to each other and honour the "deal" ... its lovely whan an appointment does run over a bit due to a real rapport or interesting conversation developing..... but I feel that its not just down to the lady to move it on.... or invite the parting shower

Time can easily run over, but I'm usually pretty clear about roughly where the clock is , even if its not visible.

So, I like to check with the lady ......"Are you OK for time ? " or "Are you Ok with this ?" ....and most often the lady will say its fine. I've even been out for a coffee after the event, which was nice.

However , should the liaison return to a more sexual encounter .. after the agreed time allowance..... .Its really only fair to offer to pay for an extra time slot, and I think its the punter who should offer this ..not wait to be asked.

So in the case you mention Sarah, I do feel that if you client had wished the appt to go on, its he that should have offered to pay for it. Can't see you did anything wrong.

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Perhaps in the light of that observation you would be kind enough to advise me. Just over a year ago I saw a lovely lady for the second time. I arrived at 1400 hours for a two hour appointment. At 2130 hours, during which time I had made repeated references to how much time had elapsed, we finished. I was completely hammered so she gave me a lift to the station. I offered her more money and asked that she stop at the cashpoint. She wouldn't hear of it and told me that she thoroughly enjoyed herself and it was her decision to extend. Since then I have been too embarrassed to make another appointment because I'm frightened that, like you, she might think that I expect an additional five and a half hours. I certainly don't and I feel very awkward. Coincidentally we spoke last week and she told me not to be so silly but I'm still anxious. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

I expect because you offered to pay her extra that night and because you've spoken of it she's very cool with seeing you and you shouldn't worry. Sometimes I meet a guy and we do go on longer at my say so because sometimes we do meet clients who are great company and genuinely enjoy it and if we don't have anything better to do and maybe because we're a bit lonely they stay longer. I suggest you see her and make sure you keep an eye on the time and make to leave on time. If she insists you stay a bit longer and want to that's fine. Just never take it for granted though, the ball is always in her court and she may not have extra time for you for genuine reasons not because she thinks you're trying it on.

You are a very sweet thoughtful man, no wonder she enjoys your company.

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Actually I'm a jaded, intolerant, misanthrope and your lovely compliment is a huge surprise. :wub:

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Any sensible constructive thoughts please?

Personally, I'd say that if he paid for 60 mins and in fact got 30 mins of sex + lots of chat then you owe him time. But if he paid for 60 mins and in fact got 80 mins of sex + lots of chat then he owes you cash. Time spent chatting should not be counted unless the conversation is very much driven by the client's need to talk. So for instance if he needed to spend 40 mins complaining about how his wife hadn't touched him during the last 10 years then that's time he should be paying for. But if the two of you are laughing away at tales, and you are telling him amusing stories or asking him tons of questions about his life then I think you are taking the piss if you expect him to pay a large sum of money for that time.

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Sarah, please don't feel guilty in anyway. I don't know how log original booking was for, but I only assume its one hour. (if it was 2 hours, 30 minuted its not such a long overrun, so I am sure you would overlooked it).

Some guys thinking, that if they booked for an hour, they expect one hour sexual activity. Any time spent for conversation, shower, or consuming bacon sarnie prepared by yourself, its free, or because its of kindness of your heart.

You could spent 30-40 minutes intimately, but because he booked you for an hour, he probably still expects additional 30 minutes at least for a bedroom activities, regardless the amount of time you spent listening to his rambling about his job and family.

You gave him a great sex and a great conversation, maybe even some counseling for free. If he did not enjoyed social time, I am sure you would feel the vibes, and would attend to him for the second go, or he could offer to extend appointment. Relax, and don't cause headache to yourself about it. :-)

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I hate the fact I can't edit my posts (unless I do so immediately). Anyway, if you feel he didn't get as much sex as he deserved then I'd suggest getting in touch with him and apologising for the session not quite going the way you intended and saying if he wanted to see you again then you'd add on the extra time doing sexual stuff, making clear that in future you'd have to limit the amount of time spent chatting as otherwise you'd never make any money.

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Thank you for all of your answers. I was feeling that I had not given him enough private time in amongst the other stuff you see and this is why I felt bad. I'm glad I talked about it now because it does highlight the fact that we are human and sometimes the punt runneth over, and it gave people a chance to say that this has happened to them. I suppose it shows that not all WGS are mercenary as some folks infer that we are - and I expect not without good reason (after reading Kundalini's bad punts you can see why some men distrust working girls)

I emailed him and told him I felt bad. He emailed back and told me not to worry and he felt he had taken advantage because we had run over, but honestly - neither of us realised that we had run over for so long.

All's well that ends well as they say.

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