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When Did The Gfe Come Along On To The Scene?

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I was intrigued by a recent post which argued that 'in the days before the GFE became widely available, there was usually no respect, warmth or humanity at all' from WGs. Was this really true? Perhaps it was a slight exaggeration... but if true, at what point in time did the GFE become more widely offered?

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My first punt (@ 2gns = £2.10) was in the winter of 1964, in a flat in Evelyn Court (still standing) just off the Edgeware Road. I can't remember her name, but she wore a leopardskin print dress!

There was certainly no kissing, and I'm by no means sure that I, er, penetrated, but the experience was friendly and warm. Not quite a GFE, but nearly!

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My thoughts are that the GFE only came into its own about 10 or 12 years ago. Till then DFK was generally a no no, often mutual undressing was not on the agenda, and any form of mutual pleasuring was unusual.

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My guess is it was post-internet + field reports. I only had limited punting experience till about 07, but had no idea GFE till then.

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More interesting still might be the why of the GFE (though I'm also curious as to when it became popular...) I have my own theories, but what do others think?

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I've no idea when it entered the phrase book, but when proper kissing (snogging) isn't allowed it isn't a gfe. It may still qualify as a good punt - I had one such in Cornwall some time ago that is worth remembering, but no kissing despite doing owo was slightly mystifying, however ..... I did go back for more of the same! :)

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I had my first real GFE in 1988, about a year into my punting career. It was a time in which encounters could be somwhat " mechanical" Lovely blonde lady called Jo ( Josie) lived in a nice apartment on the edge of Brum City Centre just off 5 Ways, Spitting image of one of the Nolan sisters. i ended up seeing her once or twice a week for 2 years . She retired and got married to a client - lucky bugger!!

Anyone old enough on here to have met her?

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No idea when just glad it did.

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I was intrigued by a recent post which argued that 'in the days before the GFE became widely available, there was usually no respect, warmth or humanity at all' from WGs. Was this really true? Perhaps it was a slight exaggeration... but if true, at what point in time did the GFE become more widely offered?

In my experience my punting was generally less warm until kissing became widely on offer in about the mid to late 90s. Respect and humanity were present there though. The GFE as a term was much later in the noughties to my knowledge. What the GFE offered through good WGs was the delusion it was something more which is why some punters think punting is dating, others like me just lap up the services on offer knowing its part of the WGs job and if good she does it very well using her acting abilities which i thank her and others for. :)

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More interesting still might be the why of the GFE (though I'm also curious as to when it became popular...) I have my own theories, but what do others think?

Kissing became a widespread service offered after the arrival of en masse EE WGs in the 90s, till then it was mainly off the menu being for partners only as WGs of the time always used to say to me. The GFE is simply evolution, an obvious next step from kissing in my opinion, to offering a more intimate service to cash in on what punters required and still require. Thats why it became popular, it was what punters wanted, hugs, cuddles to feel intimate and for the less realistic, loved, although love plays no part in my own punting. In my own experiences it was British WGs that first started offering the GFE some in response to foreign WG competition, then many foreign WGs followed suit, a great example of how the free market and competition has benefited punters. :)

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I was intrigued by a recent post which argued that 'in the days before the GFE became widely available, there was usually no respect, warmth or humanity at all' from WGs. Was this really true? Perhaps it was a slight exaggeration... but if true, at what point in time did the GFE become more widely offered?

In the 1960s, when I was still a sixth former but well before my punting started, I remember reading in the Guardian a report concerning a prostitute in Berlin who had become very popular because she was "unusually friendly and understanding" towards her customers. The woman was at the heart of a political scandal in the city. There was no such word as GFE at that time to describe this type of encounter, but I guess that she was offering this type of service.

As long ago as 1990, I could on very rare occasions find a WG who turned out to be "unusually friendly and understanding" towards me. But this only ever happened on a second or third meeting, after I had found a girl that I liked personally (as well as sexually), a girl who apparently enjoyed my conversation and company as much as I enjoyed hers. Under these conditions, I found, over the years, three girls who would kiss and cuddle, and generally react to me as if they were my girlfriend. I imagine that, in spite of a flow of customers through their bedroom, at least two of these girls were lonely, and were keen to attract back a rare customer, one who would converse intelligently with them. The third described herself as a nymphomaniac -- although this self-description may have been a lie designed to gain extra custom. She was exremely generous with her service.

The first time I came across the description "GFE" to describe this type of encounter was around 10 or 12 years ago, roughly corresponding with the launch of Punternet. I wonder if Punternet had anything to do with the appearance of the new word in the English language..

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Seems to be a general consensus it was around the late 90s to early 2000s then...

That was just around the time I started punting so I have never known anything else. I think if the likes of DFK hadn't been on offer then I would have been a lot less keen on taking up punting.

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When I started working late in 2002 I had no idea what a GFE was. My boss told the clients I was a GFE and I thought she meant Good Fucking Experience... doh.

Unhurried, mutual pleasure, being yourself, taking the time to care for your client.. listening to him, understanding his needs, and most of all joining in and having fun is what a GFE is all about. Is there really any other way to work?

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I have no idea of the answer, but I originally read this thread becuase it is something I am looking for in the London area , (any PMs containing a mature brunette witha friendly attitude are welcomed) oops sorry, thats the lazy way of searching over. I am interested because I started punting in chinese massage shops and then walk ups and although I have enjoyed many good experiences feel I want to progress to someone I can visit who will be friendly, who I can hopefully click with and have a laugh, someone not full of fake moans who will offer me a cuddle thrown in. My question- Is that an unreasonable expectation from a GFE experience?

As I said, I originally read this post for those reasons, then I clicked on the OPs link and now, Sarah, I just wished I lived in Leeds and had 2 hours spare.

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Sorry, got distracted.Meant to add one more question, and I do hope you don't mind Sarah. My question is to fellow punters-

'Do you feel the GFE type of punt is something you as a punter progress to , or is it just if you are in the mood for that sort of experience at the time?'

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Sorry, got distracted.Meant to add one more question, and I do hope you don't mind Sarah. My question is to fellow punters-

'Do you feel the GFE type of punt is something you as a punter progress to , or is it just if you are in the mood for that sort of experience at the time?'

Depends really... when I first started puting it was more on the S&M scene. My first couple of 'proper' punts were the 30 minute parlour quickies which were ok in parts but left me with a feeling of not being 100% satisfied. I switched to indies soon after that and most punts since have been GFE types by choice.

I think in its broadest sense, GFE really alludes to a certain attitude of warmth and agreeableness rather than specific services even though many would argue it is personified by DFK for example.

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I have no idea of the answer, but I originally read this thread becuase it is something I am looking for in the London area , (any PMs containing a mature brunette witha friendly attitude are welcomed) oops sorry, thats the lazy way of searching over. I am interested because I started punting in chinese massage shops and then walk ups and although I have enjoyed many good experiences feel I want to progress to someone I can visit who will be friendly, who I can hopefully click with and have a laugh, someone not full of fake moans who will offer me a cuddle thrown in. My question- Is that an unreasonable expectation from a GFE experience?

As I said, I originally read this post for those reasons, then I clicked on the OPs link and now, Sarah, I just wished I lived in Leeds and had 2 hours spare.

Clicking with someone isnt something you can know before meeting them so its luck when it happens, and it can most certainly enhance a punt. The rest you mention is what a GFE should offer so no its not an unreasonable expectation at all. :)

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Sorry, got distracted.Meant to add one more question, and I do hope you don't mind Sarah. My question is to fellow punters-

'Do you feel the GFE type of punt is something you as a punter progress to , or is it just if you are in the mood for that sort of experience at the time?'

It wasnt on offer when i started punting in the 80s so i didnt have a choice to progress to it then. Now its here i dont punt without FK preferably DFK and OWO as they are essential to me but dependent on how i feel on the day i might go for a GFE or a PSE but never a quicky nowadays as my minimum is an hours punt. :)

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Sorry, got distracted.Meant to add one more question, and I do hope you don't mind Sarah. My question is to fellow punters-

'Do you feel the GFE type of punt is something you as a punter progress to , or is it just if you are in the mood for that sort of experience at the time?'

I suppose I provide the GFE in that you come along and I make you welcome, and we can chat but only if you want to and then the fun can be as horny or frantic or as gentle as you please, so for me the GFE is more about a state of mind and a state of comfort and a stepping stone from where other things can happen, but again only if you want to and as much as you want to :)

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I suppose I provide the GFE in that you come along and I make you welcome, and we can chat but only if you want to and then the fun can be as horny or frantic or as gentle as you please, so for me the GFE is more about a state of mind and a state of comfort and a stepping stone from where other things can happen, but again only if you want to and as much as you want to :)

Good answer (from a WG's' perspective.)

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When punting in the past I found I was limited in what I could do particularly in parlours. Kissing and cuddling were strictly fobidden and some parlours I visited would not allow reverse oral. I feel being allowed to do things like kissing and cuddling has been one the best developments in the industry. I am currently single and have not had any luck finding a girlfriend which means visiting WGs is the only means available to me if I want sex. In the past one major disadavantage for single punters who could only have sex if they visited WGs was that they could not experience intimate sex and do the the things you do with a partner such as kissing and hugging. The GFE means that single punters can now do those things.

I am been curious as to why the GFE experience developed in the industry and when did it start and reading this thread has been interesting.

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When punting in the past I found I was limited in what I could do particularly in parlours. Kissing and cuddling were strictly fobidden and some parlours I visited would not allow reverse oral. I feel being allowed to do things like kissing and cuddling has been one the best developments in the industry. I am currently single and have not had any luck finding a girlfriend which means visiting WGs is the only means available to me if I want sex. In the past one major disadavantage for single punters who could only have sex if they visited WGs was that they could not experience intimate sex and do the the things you do with a partner such as kissing and hugging. The GFE means that single punters can now do those things.

I am been curious as to why the GFE experience developed in the industry and when did it start and reading this thread has been interesting.

I worked for an agency. I did what comes naturally when I saw clients. I was the only girl who got the repeat work. I was the only girl in that agency with 'regulars'.

The boss said to me one day that she was going to gather us all together and let me give a talk on what I do with the clients, and I basically told her to bugger off. Maybe girls gradually realised that if they gave more to their client, he would return? Maybe it's as simple as that.. I don't know.

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My first GFE was in 1994 in the parlour in Rose Street Edinburgh. She was a real girl next door type - very wholesome - and right from the start it didn't seem like a paid encounter with dfk seeming very natural. It was also my first owo and my first cim. My second was a couple of days later in Scorpios in Edinburgh with a gorgeous blonde. I was hooked and went off in hot pursuit of more GFEs. In those days Scorpios rarely let me down and I also had a high success rate in the mid-late 90s at Aquarius in Glasgow and the Georgian in Oldham. Woodlands in Glasgow was the best I found with a 100% strike rate.

I had a couple of close encounters prior to these (in the Wirral and in Birmingham) but it was me who turned my face away at the last minute as our lips homed in. I also asked for a condom for oral when it became apparent that I was going get it without. This was early in my punting career having just graduated from the occasional fbsm and I was terrified I might catch something. Over 15 years later with hundreds of GFEs under my belt I can look back and chuckle at my naivety.

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Thanks to everyone for answering my questions, and its been interesting reading of others experiences. I think GFE is definitely right for me, it will be fun finding out.

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I worked for an agency. I did what comes naturally when I saw clients. I was the only girl who got the repeat work. I was the only girl in that agency with 'regulars'.

The boss said to me one day that she was going to gather us all together and let me give a talk on what I do with the clients, and I basically told her to bugger off.

I can totally understand why you didn't take the boss up on the offer Sarah (imagine how popular you'd have been lol), but I do wish that some girls would go to escorting college for a week. Most of us blokes are dead easy to please yet some girls genuinely seem to have no clue how to go about it. Thankfully, this site is a great resource for identifying those ladies who either have learned or took to it naturally.

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