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How Many Wgs Have Had A Stalker?

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The reason I'm curious is a problem I was told about at a particularly company which suggested to me that stalking (in all walks of life) is perhaps more common than people realise.

Without giving too much away, the company has had problems with several female staff being harassed and stalked by customers. What triggered this off? Something as simple as the woman's name was on a receipt, i.e., you have been served by 'first name_surname' today and men have been tracing their details on social networking sites.

Granted, escorting is slightly different as the WG doesn't give out her real name but are there many ladies here who have suffered the unwanted attentions of a stalker?

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Yup... Its bloody annoying... Wont give out details but its happened to me twice. I'm going to have to stop wearing make-up and start being a bitch. And carry a machete...

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Yes, it has happened to me twice also. Both as insidious but both completely different. First one wanted marriage but followed me in his car. Stood staring at me in a restaurant where I was eating with my children and left a note on my windscreen declaring his love........ then he continued on and came knoclking on my door one day - completely out of the blue. That was scary.

Second one told me he would ask me out if his wife died. His wife is alive and kicking. He found out where I lived too.

It will never happen again. Got a harder shell now.

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I know of a case too

Horrible

Nutter looking for love, and reacting very badly when not getting it

He told her previously unaware family she worked causing appalling distress

He used this forum to slate her. He has since had most of his profiles wiped

He knew her w.g friends names, and hassled them too

Fake bookings, then he'd turn up , when he knew he was 'banned'

He had taken the fantasy of the appointment seriously and couldn't understand why it couldn't progress further

What I found depressing was how ineffective the agencies seemed at just not taking his calls. When he'd threatened to rape, hurt her and worse

He's moved on to another girl, if she reciprocates great, but I predict tears

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It happens a lot.

Several of our staff have experienced it. From regular clients forgetting the boundaries and becoming a little too possessive to girls being followed onto to trains, to clients waiting outside the school where there children go to!

As an agency we have tried to be tactile where possible but our priority is our staff. We have involved the police on two occasions.

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I've had two, the second was just a creepy nuisance. The first tried to kill me twice and almost succeeded once. At the time there were no anti-stalking laws where I lived, so until he got violent, the police couldn't do a thing apart from having a friendly word with him.

Still, I've always been a bit of a nutter magnet. *shrugs* :)

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The reason I'm curious is a problem I was told about at a particularly company which suggested to me that stalking (in all walks of life) is perhaps more common than people realise.

Without giving too much away, the company has had problems with several female staff being harassed and stalked by customers. What triggered this off? Something as simple as the woman's name was on a receipt, i.e., you have been served by 'first name_surname' today and men have been tracing their details on social networking sites.

Granted, escorting is slightly different as the WG doesn't give out her real name but are there many ladies here who have suffered the unwanted attentions of a stalker?

Is Googling someone's name (which will pull up Facebook, Twitter, etc. probably) considered stalking these days?

I'm on Twitter (no longer on Facebook, as didn't like it, and was unhappy with their ever-changing rules on which of my details they can sell on or use in adverts or whatever), but if I post a load of personal information and share it with everyone in the world, I surely can't complain when people look at it? If I don't want weirdos looking at it, I should share it with just my friends/family/people I know.

Obviously if he's following them to school, or leaving notes on their windscreens (as mentioned by some earlier posts), then yes - that's out of order. If someone requests your friendship on Facebook and you don't know them, tell them to fuck off.

But if they're just looking at your pictures out with your mates at the weekend (that you put out there)?...I don't see the harm in that.

I bet there's nobody with a Facebook account who hasn't at one time or another, spied on what their ex was up to, or checked out if the good looking person you went to school with (but hated, and aren't friends with) has a better house/relationship/job than you. Don't tell me you haven't. I know you have.

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I've not had a stalker but do know of several escorts who have. A couple of years ago a close family member had a problem with some one following her home on a couple of occasions, but after having a word with him he never did it again.

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It happens a lot.

Several of our staff have experienced it. From regular clients forgetting the boundaries and becoming a little too possessive to girls being followed onto to trains, to clients waiting outside the school where there children go to!

As an agency we have tried to be tactile where possible but our priority is our staff. We have involved the police on two occasions.

I've had two. The first tried to kill me twice and almost succeeded once. At the time there were no anti-stalking laws where I lived, so until he got violent, the police couldn't do a thing apart from having a friendly word with him.

Maybe these are good illustrations to partially support ladies' rebuttals to numerous threads on here about how they charge too much. Seems to be an element of danger which is more common than the average punter might think.

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There was a complete arsehole on here who got/gets his kicks out of stalking and grooming the younger WGs, one of his victims told me about it and i saw the evidence of reams of texts, emails and messages on her phone all sent by him.

I named and shamed him on here on a thread a couple of years ago and he never posted again on this forum under that nick as far as i know.

He was/is so cocky and confident that he made no effort to hide his true identity, i know his real name, address, job, family, a lot about him as he gave it to the WG. I advised calling the police with the evidence of his communications which often turned into threats if she didnt immediately respond to him, but for her own reasons she decided not to involve the police, which i have no doubt he knew would be the case.

He picks on easy targets as he sees them, new young WGs mainly who he can manipulate. He is very smart, initially comes across as a lovely, polite, intelligent guy, then starts to send presents and then more expensive presents and does all he can to get himself into her life, meeting her family.

With one WG he made a point of meeting her mother at her job which the WG had told him about to ingrasiate himself into the family while telling the WG he would tell her mother she was a WG and her friends or family members and neighbours. He really is a piece of work. A very dangerous man in his 50s who god knows how long he has been doing this and how many victims he has had. I passed my information on to others but with no police involvement i understand he continues to operate.

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I have had two as well. Luckily neither knows the address where I am living now.

The first one I have now managed to get rid of. It was very creepy when he sent me a text as I was out shopping one day, describing what I was wearing and listing all the shops I had just been into. I figured he must have been following me for at least 2 hours to have been able to do that.

He later sent me messages saying he was going to kill himself if I didn't see him. He also got someone claiming to be his solicitor to call me to say he wanted to amend his will leaving everything to me, but that I had to come to his office to give all my details. I didn't respond.

The second guy is still harassing me now. A while ago he started a very spiteful thread on this site, knowing I come on here (he has since been banned). Though he didn't name me on it, as people were responding to the thread, he was texting my phone saying he would name me if I refused to meet him, and that he would make sure no one ever wanted to book me again.

Now he is setting up different profiles on the purple site (2 that I know for sure are him so far) trying to get to see me. Consequently I am now refusing to see clients who have new profiles and no feedback. By doing this, I am probably also turning down some genuine clients, so it's pretty annoying to say the least.

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I have had two as well. Luckily neither knows the address where I am living now.

The first one I have now managed to get rid of. It was very creepy when he sent me a text as I was out shopping one day, describing what I was wearing and listing all the shops I had just been into. I figured he must have been following me for at least 2 hours to have been able to do that.

He later sent me messages saying he was going to kill himself if I didn't see him. He also got someone claiming to be his solicitor to call me to say he wanted to amend his will leaving everything to me, but that I had to come to his office to give all my details. I didn't respond.

The second guy is still harassing me now. A while ago he started a very spiteful thread on this site, knowing I come on here (he has since been banned). Though he didn't name me on it, as people were responding to the thread, he was texting my phone saying he would name me if I refused to meet him, and that he would make sure no one ever wanted to book me again.

Now he is setting up different profiles on the purple site (2 that I know for sure are him so far) trying to get to see me. Consequently I am now refusing to see clients who have new profiles and no feedback. By doing this, I am probably also turning down some genuine clients, so it's pretty annoying to say the least.

Yes, it seems that some of these guys use the message forum as a weapon to beat you with when you won't see them any more. I sincerely hope I did not join in on that thread, but *sigh* I expect i did......... Hope you are okay and feel really angry on your behalf x

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Yes, it has happened to me twice also. Both as insidious but both completely different. First one wanted marriage but followed me in his car. Stood staring at me in a restaurant where I was eating with my children and left a note on my windscreen declaring his love........ then he continued on and came knoclking on my door one day - completely out of the blue. That was scary.

Second one told me he would ask me out if his wife died. His wife is alive and kicking. He found out where I lived too.

It will never happen again. Got a harder shell now.

you must have been told about wearing those short skirts, :P

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The reason I'm curious is a problem I was told about at a particularly company which suggested to me that stalking (in all walks of life) is perhaps more common than people realise.

I think that's definitely correct. I suspect that WG's are more likely to be subject to stalkers than most non-WG's.

A girl that I know very well was forced to call the police. This guy was known by the parlour management to be rather unstable, but unfortunately the management did not warn her. It was the taxi-driver who drove her home one night who warned her that they were being followed. The taxi-driver managed to lose the stalker in the side-streets. Eventually she was forced to contact the police. The police did arrest him whilst he was sitting in his van late one night outside the parlour. They were rather alarmed when they found a face mask, rope and a knife on the passenger seat of his van, so much so that they were initially reluctant to tell her.

Unfortunately it didn't stop them telling the guy her full name when they interviewed him under caution. After being released he traced her ( presumably via electoral register) and stalked her at home. Because she has an unusual surname he wrote to her family and her relatives in the same city. Her brother turned up at the parlour to see if it was true that she worked as a prostitute.

She had to complain to the IPCC and the police arranged for her to be moved to a Housing Association flat. She hasn't worked since and her family hardly speak to her.

This wasn't a guy who was besotted with her. He was a guy who thought he'd received a bad service.

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*shudders*, stories like these scare me, but maybe it's good once in a while to be reminded of the more dangerous side of the job. I've had two stalky types in my life, both exes, so maybe am better at picking clients than I am partners!

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Following on from mentions of internet stalking when I was exposed in a national newspaper I received several friend requests and messages from strangers who had seen the article. I mean, who the hell reads a newspaper article (and I only made page 29 and the pic made me look like a dog) and then looks them up on Facebook?! By 8am I had about 10 requests/messages. Needless to say I deactivated account! Incidentally, the messages were very kind and supportive, but even so very creepy, I wonder how many I would have got if I had left account open?!

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There was a complete arsehole on here who got/gets his kicks out of stalking and grooming the younger WGs, one of his victims told me about it and i saw the evidence of reams of texts, emails and messages on her phone all sent by him.

I named and shamed him on here on a thread a couple of years ago and he never posted again on this forum under that nick as far as i know.

He was/is so cocky and confident that he made no effort to hide his true identity, i know his real name, address, job, family, a lot about him as he gave it to the WG. I advised calling the police with the evidence of his communications which often turned into threats if she didnt immediately respond to him, but for her own reasons she decided not to involve the police, which i have no doubt he knew would be the case.

He picks on easy targets as he sees them, new young WGs mainly who he can manipulate. He is very smart, initially comes across as a lovely, polite, intelligent guy, then starts to send presents and then more expensive presents and does all he can to get himself into her life, meeting her family.

With one WG he made a point of meeting her mother at her job which the WG had told him about to ingrasiate himself into the family while telling the WG he would tell her mother she was a WG and her friends or family members and neighbours. He really is a piece of work. A very dangerous man in his 50s who god knows how long he has been doing this and how many victims he has had. I passed my information on to others but with no police involvement i understand he continues to operate.

The person you're talking about tried to do the same with me. From constantly trying to find out my real name, "crying" over his stalkee, to bemoaning the fact that condoms have to be used in sex, it can be a bit of a pain... I'm still in contact with him but if he thinks he's ever going to get my personal details he is deluding himself.

Clients often wonder why girls sometimes tell white lies and people like him are the very reason.

And if he's reading this which, no doubt, he will: I know your game. Give it up.

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It happens and I think the OP is right that it is more common than commonly acknowledge. Stalkers have been exposed here more often than I'd have ever expected.

In my college days, one of my house mates seemed entirely normal. Then about half way through the second year he got obsessed with another friend of mine who was female, she was Indian decent and Muslim. While she was very westernised, friendly and flirty, her parents were quite conservative, and she had actually come to college to delay her arranged marriage. So while I did fancy her I knew it was never going to be anything more than friendship. My house mate, and calling him that still unsettles me, became obsessed with rescuing her for himself. When his attention was rejected he started creeping her out. The rest of house, 5 guys including him, she lived elsewhere, at first tried to make him see reason. He said all the right things to placate our concern but then just continued in much more secretive manner. He hacked her computer account, she's mistakenly shared her password early when he offered to help her with her computer work. He contacted her parents and tried to paint the rest of the house as predators, and she was forced to return home for several weeks and we only found out later on her return.

In the end the rest of us sent him to Coventry and froze him out of the house and he dropped out, failed his second year and thankfully didn't return for his final year.

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The person you're talking about tried to do the same with me. From constantly trying to find out my real name, "crying" over his stalkee, to bemoaning the fact that condoms have to be used in sex, it can be a bit of a pain... I'm still in contact with him but if he thinks he's ever going to get my personal details he is deluding himself.

Clients often wonder why girls sometimes tell white lies and people like him are the very reason.

And if he's reading this which, no doubt, he will: I know your game. Give it up.

Yep, me too, although I only met him once in a public place, and severed all contact as soon as I had seen him and confirmed my suspicions as to who he was. It was long enough for him to tell me how he'd recently had the all clear from the GUM (over the lunch table, no less, and in addition to the intrusive personal questions I was expecting), so I daresay the tiresome condom-rubbish would have started soon enough had I ever had the misfortune to be on my own with him. I don't think I have ever met such a spectacularly sleazy, creepy, charmless individual in my entire nearly-39 years.

I still occasionally wonder if he believed any of the pile of crap I told him. I shudder to think what the unsuspecting ladies who have admitted him to their regular incall premises have had to put up with; the tales from the ones I already know about are bad enough.

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Reading those posts have made me cringe.

I think its appalling that there are arseholes like these in the world with NO regard for the damage they cause!

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There was a complete arsehole on here who got/gets his kicks out of stalking and grooming the younger WGs, one of his victims told me about it and i saw the evidence of reams of texts, emails and messages on her phone all sent by him.

The person you're talking about tried to do the same with me. From constantly trying to find out my real name, "crying" over his stalkee, to bemoaning the fact that condoms have to be used in sex, it can be a bit of a pain... I'm still in contact with him but if he thinks he's ever going to get my personal details he is deluding himself.

Yep, me too, although I only met him once in a public place, and severed all contact as soon as I had seen him and confirmed my suspicions as to who he was. It was long enough for him to tell me how he'd recently had the all clear from the GUM (over the lunch table, no less, and in addition to the intrusive personal questions I was expecting), so I daresay the tiresome condom-rubbish would have started soon enough had I ever had the misfortune to be on my own with him. I don't think I have ever met such a spectacularly sleazy, creepy, charmless individual in my entire nearly-39 years.

I've met quite a few girls who've had problems with this charmless piece of crap. It really depresses me that he is still at his tricks two years after smiths outed him on these forums. If there is anything in the whole karma/"you reap what you sow" stuff, this guy is due some serious bad luck one day soon. We can only hope ...

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Obviously there is some kind of private convo going on here or we would all know who this person is. Why on earth would you want to meet with him in the first place if you knew he was like that? Isn't that just encouraging him? That was a general question not directed at Northwinds, but this one is... if you have met several girls who have all told you about him, why isn't this person on a warning list or his handle named now?

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Funnily enough, I have not encountered too many stalkers as a WG but then if I get the jist that it is going were it shouldn't go, ie obsession, I do not see them again. But I did once have a bag of underwear stolen from my car :eek:

I have had some serious female stalkers in my private life though :unsure: Don't know why, but it has been most annoying at times. The latest one being a WG who I gave some work to about 5 years ago in the form of two girl bookings. For the past 4 years, unfortunately she has my private number, she has called or texted about once a week, sometimes in the middle of the night, asking why I am not speaking to her. Well, I was to start with but after getting text messages in the night, I stopped.

Even my kids looks at my phone now when it rings or a text comes through from her and they say 'Its your stalker'

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Obviously there is some kind of private convo going on here or we would all know who this person is.

I thought everybody knew who is being talked about, the issue is mentioning his name is like saying candyman three times into a mirror.

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I thought everybody knew who is being talked about, the issue is mentioning his name is like saying candyman three times into a mirror.

I don't know who this person is but I would really appreciate it if some one could PN me. Many thanks in advance xx

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