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What If You Were Paid Not To Cum?

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As usual I guess each woman that answers this will have a different answer but if you were paid an extra 50 or 100 quid not to cum would you be able to stop yourself cumming even if toys or very good oral was employed?

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I find it takes a real concerted effort to come during a booking unless I'm actually in charge of the toys or whatever, and I don't really like oral much from people I don't know so no problems here - walk in the park. Are there actually punters who pay extra money for this? Never heard that one before :blink:.

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As usual I guess each woman that answers this will have a different answer but if you were paid an extra 50 or 100 quid not to cum would you be able to stop yourself cumming even if toys or very good oral was employed?

If this was asked over the phone, I would turn the booking down as I dont trust myself no to. Particularly where RO is concerned.

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I find it takes a real concerted effort to come during a booking unless I'm actually in charge of the toys or whatever, and I don't really like oral much from people I don't know so no problems here - walk in the park. Are there actually punters who pay extra money for this? Never heard that one before :blink:.

This subject always makes me chuckle. I know for a fact from being told by WGs at parties that some very rarely come with punters but some punters make it there mission to get WGs to come above all else, so they fake it and the punter walks away very happy and content.

The point is if a WG is a good actress they can be very convincing at pretending to come, i have seen and heard it countless times. Not saying all fake of course, that depends on the WG. I can only go on my personal experiences and observations obviously.

As to being paid not to come, i dont think that would be a problem for some somehow. ;)

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I do think that punters (or it could be a men-generally thing - there's something similar in another thread but I can't remember which one) think that having an orgasm is the be all and end-all and if women don't have one it means they haven't enjoyed themselves. Nothing could be further from the truth IMO - it's still fun, and not being put under unfair pressure or treated like a circus animal who can perform on command is far more appealing than the people who turn up and spend the entire time going on and on about it. I don't think anything makes my heart sink faster than the question 'what do you like/what can I do for you' or any of their associated variables.

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This subject always makes me chuckle. I know for a fact from being told by WGs at parties that some very rarely come with punters but some punters make it there mission to get WGs to come above all else, so they fake it and the punter walks away very happy and content.

The point is if a WG is a good actress they can be very convincing at pretending to come, i have seen and heard it countless times. Not saying all fake of course, that depends on the WG. I can only go on my personal experiences and observations obviously.

Is convulsing of the vagina muscles and the clit becoming very sensitive a sign of the lady commiing? I guess the clit sensitivity could be faked, but the muscle spasms?

Perhaps the When Harry met Sally scene should have been hardcore with him giving her oral.

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I can empathise with Amy and agree totally with her. I think because the male orgasm is generally a lot more straightforward, and often the finishing or focal point of the sex act, that it's assumed to be the same for women. It generally isn't and there is nothing as off putting as someone who expects you to climax on demand, often having their own ideas of what should bring a woman off. From what I gather it is quite individual from woman to woman.

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As Amy and Strawberry have said there is nothing more likely to stop an orgasm than a fellow saying 'I want you to come, come for me now' and so on. Any amount of pressure to orgasm will make it nigh on impossible. Recently a man giving me very good oral/fingering said to me 'Oh you're close aren't you, you're about to come!' The answer in my head was 'I bloody well was until you mentioned it!'

So yeah bring it on boys, pay me extra not to come!

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Is convulsing of the vagina muscles and the clit becoming very sensitive a sign of the lady commiing? I guess the clit sensitivity could be faked, but the muscle spasms?

Depends on your pelvic floor muscles - I don't have any trouble flexing mine (I do a lot of Pilates and yoga), and I can't imagine it would be hard to reproduce the effect assuming you'd been doing your exercises. Why you would bother is another question entirely - it doesn't help anybody to encourage techniques that don't work, particularly if you're likely to have the protagonist visiting again. But then again, if somebody had been painstakingly plugging away for an hour or so and just wouldn't let it alone until they'd 'won', I can see the value in a white lie too although I don't think I'd do it myself.

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As usual I guess each woman that answers this will have a different answer but if you were paid an extra 50 or 100 quid not to cum would you be able to stop yourself cumming even if toys or very good oral was employed?

You know that fable.. the one with the Scorpion and the Frog? Well I'm yer Scorpion, so the money would be wasted...LOL That is unless I could disguise my orgasm :)

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Why would the lady want to stop (financial incentive aside)???

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Depends on your pelvic floor muscles - I don't have any trouble flexing mine (I do a lot of Pilates and yoga), and I can't imagine it would be hard to reproduce the effect assuming you'd been doing your exercises. Why you would bother is another question entirely - it doesn't help anybody to encourage techniques that don't work, particularly if you're likely to have the protagonist visiting again. But then again, if somebody had been painstakingly plugging away for an hour or so and just wouldn't let it alone until they'd 'won', I can see the value in a white lie too although I don't think I'd do it myself.

I am no expert in RO, but from experience, some ladies' clitoris gradually engorge under the hood upon arousal. Often the most enjoyable part of the punt is knowing the lady is enjoying herself in the process - I never "aim" to bring an orgasm but if she does cum, then I take that as a bonus:-) So long as she enjoys the pleasure, then my effort is already rewarded.

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I am no expert in RO, but from experience, some ladies' clitoris gradually engorge under the hood upon arousal. Often the most enjoyable part of the punt is knowing the lady is enjoying herself in the process - I never "aim" to bring an orgasm but if she does cum, then I take that as a bonus:-) So long as she enjoys the pleasure, then my effort is already rewarded.

To the best of my knowledge, all ladies' do. What I will never understand, and which nobody seems to be able to adequately explain is the apparent 100% belief that 'RO' and 'arousal' are things which are inextricably linked. They are not; hence your experience of this being 'some' and not 'all'. Like everything else, some ladies like it, and others don't.

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To the best of my knowledge, all ladies' do. What I will never understand, and which nobody seems to be able to adequately explain is the apparent 100% belief that 'RO' and 'arousal' are things which are inextricably linked. They are not; hence your experience of this being 'some' and not 'all'. Like everything else, some ladies like it, and others don't.

For those interested - in developmental biology, all embryos are destined to be female unless the SRY gene is active. The default position therefore is to have the labia but in male the labia fused together to become the shaft of the penis. The clitoris then migrate to form the glans penis ("the hood"). Therefore in true arousal the clitoris and labia will engorge like the male's erection.

I don't think that many men automatically assume RO will "bring" arousal but it is one of the many pleasurable ways to try turning some ladies on - I think communication is the key and I either get the hint early on from the lady what she likes or I will simply politely ask before I proceed.

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I find it takes a real concerted effort to come during a booking unless I'm actually in charge of the toys or whatever, and I don't really like oral much from people I don't know so no problems here - walk in the park. Are there actually punters who pay extra money for this? Never heard that one before :blink:.

I think the OP is wondering whether or not a woman can be made to have an orgasm (through skilful physical stimulation) if she is not also mentally aroused.

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As Amy and Strawberry have said there is nothing more likely to stop an orgasm than a fellow saying 'I want you to come, come for me now' and so on.

In this case to get the extra money you would have to fake not cumming. I have found with GFs that telling them not to cum quite firmly when they are aroused makes them cum almost immediately and explosively. I really wanted to know if there were any girls reading this who would find it very difficult to prevent themselves from cumming once they get close and whether being told not to cum would make it more difficult to prevent orgasm. After all guys find it very difficult to prevent themselves cumming. But perhaps the women on this board have never been in the situation of trying to stop themselves from cumming.

Which begs another question have you ever been in the situation where you really don't like the guy and don't want to cum with him but you do anyway because somehow your pussy has decided it wants to?

So if you are under pressure not to cum can you prevent it easily, if so do you use mental effort or do you clamp down with your PC muscles to stop it?

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For those interested - in developmental biology, all embryos are destined to be female unless the SRY gene is active. The default position therefore is to have the labia but in male the labia fused together to become the shaft of the penis. The clitoris then migrate to form the glans penis ("the hood"). Therefore in true arousal the clitoris and labia will engorge like the male's erection.

And it therefore follows that a man will have in his penis some clitoral tissue ? Right :)

New scientific evidence shows that highly erogenous tissue equivalent to the female clitoris is located in the core of the penis, beneath the corona (the hook-like head of the penis) and coronal tip. This sensitive tissue extends all the way down the length of the penile shaft to the pubic mound, where it branches and continues into the pelvis and onto the pelvic bone in a manner analogous to the anatomy of the female clitoris. Though the penis contains nerves that are sexually excited by pressure, its tip contains the greatest density of these nerves and is therefore the most sexually responsive part, just as the tip of the clitoris is the most sensitive part. And like the tip of the female clitoris, the tip of the penis is sexually stimulated by the pleasurable sensations created by the massaging actions of the movement of the foreskin upon it during intercourse.

Was taken from here but a better explanation and diagram can be found here tho it's a Google doc so not everyone may be able to open it.

I'm sure on the FBSM forum someone posted a YouPorn or similar video showing a girl giving a guy an orgasm, but all she was doing was running a single finger in circles on and around the penis frenulum.

As this is something I do with clients too I can attest to the results and the existence of some kind of male clitoris :cool:

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I couldn't promise that I wouldn't as I'm very responsive. I'd have to be in a bad mood in order not to. lol ;):D

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So Dexi even if you were promised an extra £100 you would most likely still cum even if you tried your best not to? Have you ever tried not to cum?

On another note from the above, I know exactly where my penile clit-head is and can easily vibrate it to orgasm even without an erection.

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File under can't win don't try.

The reason that blokes of my age are orgasm orientated is the endless drummimg into our noggins of Cosmo, books and articles about the importance of the female orgasm. It is the holy grail of sex. Remember such books as "She comes first". The male orgasm was dismissed as a given.

So, being goal orientated we set off trying to give out orgasms like lollipops. And maybe why we try so hard in punts.

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As usual I guess each woman that answers this will have a different answer but if you were paid an extra 50 or 100 quid not to cum would you be able to stop yourself cumming even if toys or very good oral was employed?

Lol I suppose I would just have to fake it :-)

Shelly

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Lol I suppose I would just have to fake it :-)

Shelly

You would have to fake... not cumming? Shelly I would pay to watch that :)

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So would I :) especially having to keep perfectly still with a magic wand right on your now very sensitive clit.

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As usual I guess each woman that answers this will have a different answer but if you were paid an extra 50 or 100 quid not to cum would you be able to stop yourself cumming even if toys or very good oral was employed?

I am sure its a hypothetical question, but even so: How the client really be certain that she did not orgasmed? She might have, and its not such effort required to pretend she did not, and then collect her extra £50/£100 for doing so, or rather not doing it. Guys usually have no idea either way.

Also for some girls it will be in ideal meeting in the sense "getting paid for piece of an old rope". Far not many orgasm with the clients anyway, (no matter what other aids was used). At least they no need to put performance of the faking it convincingly (ie not overacting, as faking it un-convisingly does not require any skills).

They no need to contract theirs vaginal muscles in short intervals, no need to include certain (but discreet and hardly noticeable) breathing rhythm to make her chest flushed, no need to play with her clit to produce pussy juice in the precise amount of time and so on.. Could be as Amy said "walking in the park" kind of appointment for majority of WGs, apart of course I doubt that many would agree to it, (even if she a submissive) only because that vast level of control was requested and from the punter who either an idiot, or a complete dimfuck, who've got absolutely no idea, and I am sure it will put most of the girls off to see that kind of guy.

 

Never heard about this requests before. I did heard that some clients faked that they did not cum, (as well as vice versa) but that was only because only "one cum" allowed policy, before they chucked out, and they wanted to continue for an appointed time.

 

 

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I'm sure it might well put you off, kinda strange idea, never heard of it before, must be a wierdo. I have never tried it for that reason but would love to. I have a friend who hates it when a woman cums, strange too, must be a weirdo. My reason for wanting to try it is to find out just how difficult it is for a woman to block an orgasm, its very difficult for a man to do it. In a book called "The female brain" they have a theory that women manipulate who fathers their children by having orgasms with the most suitable males but not with un-suitable males. So they might be married, not having orgasms with the husband but having orgasms with a lover, quite possibly not deliberately but controlled by her body. Lets face it your body knows more about if a mate is suitable for breeding than you do. So the question is how difficult is it for a female to block an orgasm?

In my limited experience it seems when you ask a woman not to orgasm they do, so I was wondering if a financial incentive would make them try hard enough to prevent orgasm and surely the best woman to try that with would be escorts who must get tried of faking orgasms. Now they would have a good reason not to have an orgasm.

Surely its better to have a punter who asks you not to cum and even pays you not to, instead of a guy who asks you "have you cum yet" and proceeds to thrash your already bruised and hyper sensitive clit even more violently with his fingers or tongue?

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