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Hod.. Really Disappointing

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I finally gave in to temptation and went to HOD when I visited London. I was genuinely disappointed with my visit.

I was the last punter of the day and it was clear that everyone wanted to go home. The session began at 7.05 despite arriving on time. The session was intended to make me cum twice as soon as possible and they had me out the door by 7.45 incl shower. I kinda felt cheated but was too polite to say anything. It's hard to say where's my 15 mins when you know you cannot come a third time and am embarrassed to be a clock watcher.

I was also annoyed by the services offered. I had gone to see Sadie. A roleplay specialist apparently. I asked for her to wear a uniform and for some roleplay. The receptionist agreed said that would be fine. I have to admit Sadie looked sensational, but she said she did not have uniforms at HOD. She also said she does not do roleplay, but I can book her at a more expensive venue where I can try roleplay.

I'm sure if you pay Sadie the right amount, she is sensational. I certainly saw glimpses that she can be a minx and she was certainly good for the money. However, I felt a little cheated by HOD despite the cheaper rate. But then, maybe that's what I should have expected.

I am surprised by all the good reviews and I know HOD has many supporters on this forum and I will get some stick, but am I just expecting too much ? If you book for an hour, it should be an hour and if you advertise services you should give them.

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Sorry to hear you had a disappointment. I havent met Sadie but I have heard the positives about her.

I'm not going to give you any stick. Im a punter so even thou I research like abugger, stick to places that have been genuine and trustworthy, even I get caught out by the odd bad punt, it can happen. But I dont tend to blame to establishmnet as they arent responsible for what goes on in the room, the girl is.

I hope you dont condemn the whole of HoD just becuase of one bad punt becuase there are some great punts to be had from some of the girls as most of them Ive seen in MK. I'm not going to give them an excuse either becuase they should know that if someone books an hour its obviously been shortened if hes being shown out at 45 minutes into a booking.

They get a good reputation as a huge majority of punts and girls are first class. but theres still no guarantee its always going to be good for every punter. I guess with popularity means they are very busy so perhaps its understandable if some of the girls are knackered out come near the end of the day.

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I finally gave in to temptation and went to HOD when I visited London. I was genuinely disappointed with my visit. I was the last punter of the day and it was clear that everyone wanted to go home. The session began at 7.05 despite arriving on time. The session was intended to make me cum twice as soon as possible and they had me out the door by 7.45 incl shower. I kinda felt cheated but was too polite to say anything. It's hard to say where's my 15 mins when you know you cannot come a third time and am embarrassed to be a clock watcher. I was also annoyed by the services offered. I had gone to see Sadie. A roleplay specialist apparently. I asked for her to wear a uniform and for some roleplay. The receptionist agreed said that would be fine. I have to admit Sadie looked sensational, but she said she did not have uniforms at HOD. She also said she does not do roleplay, but I can book her at a more expensive venue where I can try roleplay. I'm sure if you pay Sadie the right amount, she is sensational. I certainly saw glimpses that she can be a minx and she was certainly good for the money. However, I felt a little cheated by HOD despite the cheaper rate. But then, maybe that's what I should have expected. I am surprised by all the good reviews and I know HOD has many supporters on this forum and I will get some stick, but am I just expecting too much ? If you book for an hour, it should be an hour and if you advertise services you should give them.

Sorry to hear about this. If you didnt get what was agreed and paid for then thats out of order and you arent expecting too much at all, just what you should of received. I daresay going from previous forum complaints you will be asked why you didnt complain there and then and why post about it on here. As i have said before in response to that Establishment often used line thats up to a poster to decide and if it were me i would be posting about it on here too as i have in the past. I think you were unlucky here going on what punter mates of mine, FRs and feedback on here has told me but that of course isnt any consolation to you following this punt. :)

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My first visit to HoD was the most disappointing punt I've ever had and the only I've ever walked away early from, due to the services advertised not being on offer. However, that particular girl came off their books after a pretty short time and the management was very helpful and sympathetic when I took the matter up with them via email after the event. I've had enjoyable bookings there since, so you might want to give HoD another chance, but I do agree that you should receive the service you agreed on and paid for.

If the girls are going to be really tired at the end of a 9-hour shift, which is completely understandable, then maybe they shouldn't stay open that late?

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I'm sorry to hear that you had a disappointing time. I have to say that I've visited HOD on a number of occasions, including a few visits to Sadie. My personal experience has been that out of the times I've visited HOD I've only had one genuinely disappointing punt (with a girl who was only there once, I think), and each time I've seen Sadie I've had a great time.

I'm not saying this to cast doubt on your account of your experience, and to be fair I've never asked specifically for role-play or uniforms so haven't been disappointed in that respect (although now you've set me thinking about Sadie being strict in a uniform, I certainly like the idea...). But I honestly don't think that your experience was typical.

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I suggest that you should have complained to the management before venting your spleen on this forum. One of the reasons why they have so many supporters is that they take customer relations seriously unlike many others in the business.

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Firstly, Bobsam I have sent you a PM addressing certain issues that are not for the public forum.

I am personally disappointed with the below par service you have received at our establishment. We do take pride in our customer service and try to get things right. However what we cannot 'control' are the girls and their daily whims.

I am not questioning what you have stated but Sadie does offer role-play as is clearly stated in her services. The fact that she wore a uniform would give a strong indication of this, so I am saddened to learn she has not delivered on the day. You do mention that she has then gone on to offer you role-play at another establishment at a higher rate. This is clearly an issue for us to discuss personally with Sadie on Monday morning and one that I hope does not effect her future employment with us.

With this in mind and the other posters comments can you please tell me why you felt cheated by us the establishment and why you should have expected to be cheated?

Our feedback in the main is positive, when clients have been let down we have always tried to address this in a positive manner, professional manner. The fact that Sadie wore a uniform and offered you role-play at a higher price at another establishment would suggest that if any deception had occurred in this instance it does not lay at the feet of the establishment.

"I'm sure if you pay Sadie the right amount, she is sensational. I certainly saw glimpses that she can be a minx and she was certainly good for the money. However, I felt a little cheated by HOD despite the cheaper rate. But then, maybe that's what I should have expected."

I would hate to think anyone should expect a poor service when coming to HoD.

Karl

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My first visit to HoD was the most disappointing punt I've ever had and the only I've ever walked away early from, due to the services advertised not being on offer. However, that particular girl came off their books after a pretty short time and the management was very helpful and sympathetic when I took the matter up with them via email after the event. I've had enjoyable bookings there since, so you might want to give HoD another chance, but I do agree that you should receive the service you agreed on and paid for.

If the girls are going to be really tired at the end of a 9-hour shift, which is completely understandable, then maybe they shouldn't stay open that late?

We open from 11 am until 8 pm, Monday to Friday. Do you think we should close earlier than 8 pm ?

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Just as we have come to expect from HoD and it's sister establishments in MK, every rare complaint is taken seriously and addressed by the management. We applaud you.

It's usually the girls trying to cut corners that are the source of complaints, but you can see that the management here are so protective of their reputation that they are willing to lose staff if they don't deliver the expected service. I know this puts pressure on the girl to perform even if she's tired or having an off day, but the punters are paying their hard-earned and are expecting their full time and the services agreed and will be back to complain if the bargain isn't kept.

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Sorry to hear you had a disappointment. I havent met Sadie but I have heard the positives about her.

I'm not going to give you any stick. Im a punter so even thou I research like abugger, stick to places that have been genuine and trustworthy, even I get caught out by the odd bad punt, it can happen. But I dont tend to blame to establishmnet as they arent responsible for what goes on in the room, the girl is.

I hope you dont condemn the whole of HoD just becuase of one bad punt becuase there are some great punts to be had from some of the girls as most of them Ive seen in MK. I'm not going to give them an excuse either becuase they should know that if someone books an hour its obviously been shortened if hes being shown out at 45 minutes into a booking.

They get a good reputation as a huge majority of punts and girls are first class. but theres still no guarantee its always going to be good for every punter. I guess with popularity means they are very busy so perhaps its understandable if some of the girls are knackered out come near the end of the day.

Thank you for the mainly positive comments.

As you state Overworked we cannot be responsible for what the girls say or do in the room. We can only take their word for services they offer and amend this as and when information to the contrary (such is the case here) comes to light.

If a girl cuts an appointment short, we can only address it afterwards with the client and the girl. If the maid was to have a stop watch and shout "hold on, hold on you have come out in 49 minutes, take him back in their for another 11 minutes" you can imagine the atmosphere in that room !?

Personally when I have been on site and this has happened, I have told the girl to refund the client the difference i.e. £30 for 15 minutes. I would hope a professional maid would do the same but again if not, as the management are not on site we have to deal with the aftermath such as this thread.

You raise the issue of popularity and girls being busy. None of our staff are under 'contract'. If a girl decides she cannot be bothered, is tired, has made enough money, wants to get back to her boyfriend/kids/goldfish or has a aching eye lash then she can walk out the door at anytime. Who looses out? YOU the client who had booked that girl for 4 pm and she has decided she has had enough and went home at 3 pm.

It would be impossible for us to run a professional establishment in this manner, so although we do not stop the girls from choosing their hours we do make them aware that any negative feedback from clients via field reports or comments on forums such as this does and will effect their future earnings.

It is a thin line between running a professional relaxed establishment and enforcing an element of 'control'.

Edited by Mr DivineMK

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I wrote an posting a few weeks ago about feeling slightly let down after coming out of a hour's punt early, so I can have some sympathy. But as I also stated, if you have come twice, had a great time and things have come to a natural conclusion, twiddling your thumbs, or her lady bits, fo the last ten or fifteen mins just to get your money's worth seems a bit over the top.

HOD really do seem to take their reputation seriously and I hope you and they can come to a happy conclusion to this.

And finally, before wandering off to reset all the bloody clocks I forgot to set last night, it is not mechanical! A punt is two fallible human beings coming together for a sex act. Sometimes it is fabulous, sometimes it falls flat as a pancake. Even with all the research in the world, sometimes it just don't happen

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This is clearly an issue for us to discuss personally with Sadie on Monday morning and one that I hope does not effect her future employment with us.

I hope it doesn't affect her future employment with you as well. I just want to state that I've only ever had great punts with Sadie at your establishment, and leave it at that.

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Although I'm virtually retired from this 'hobby' I've seen Sadie many times over the years and feel I have to speak up for her here.

Putting her obvious beauty aside she's a unique and special lady who takes her work very seriously.

There are only two working girls I've ever completely connected with and she's one of them, but she was never infallible.

She's too honest for that - something I always valued about her.

While the OP might have felt disappointed by his experience, I've got to say that coming twice in less than

an hour doesn't sound too bad to me (and no, I'm not old or infirm...) The lack of roleplay is surprising,

but this matter would have been better directed to the HOD management (who are indeed

exceptionally responsive) rather than a public forum where it might damage the reputation of a wonderful lady.

Come on, it was the last booking of a the day and she was probably tired, but she still managed to look 'sensational'

and bring the OP off twice. For the money that doesn't sound too bad to me. I've certainly had much worse for far more.

I'm not attacking the OP or denying his disappointment, but was this really such a big deal?

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Sadie was great but as mentioned on another post she has been working for a long time now and has become slightly predictable,some may say mechanical.this job does have a shelf life sadly,and that's not age,but how long the girl can work as if she's fresh to it.

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Although I'm virtually retired from this 'hobby' I've seen Sadie many times over the years and feel I have to speak up for her here. Putting her obvious beauty aside she's a unique and special lady who takes her work very seriously. There are only two working girls I've ever completely connected with and she's one of them, but she was never infallible. She's too honest for that - something I always valued about her. While the OP might have felt disappointed by his experience, I've got to say that coming twice in less than an hour doesn't sound too bad to me (and no, I'm not old or infirm...) The lack of roleplay is surprising, but this matter would have been better directed to the HOD management (who are indeed exceptionally responsive) rather than a public forum where it might damage the reputation of a wonderful lady. Come on, it was the last booking of a the day and she was probably tired, but she still managed to look 'sensational' and bring the OP off twice. For the money that doesn't sound too bad to me. I've certainly had much worse for far more. I'm not attacking the OP or denying his disappointment, but was this really such a big deal?

Its not up to you as to what the OP would have been better doing, thats his business. This is a punting forum where punters can post about their good AND bad experiences as they see fit. If it wasnt a big deal to him my logic tells me he wouldnt of bothered posting a thread about it.

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Equally I'm entitled to my opinion and will state it. That's MY business. It's an open forum and we're not expected to agree so long as we're civil.

I've had my share of poor experiences over the years and this doesn't sound like a big deal compared to all the disappointments to be had.

However, for the girl involved it could become a VERY big deal, which would be a shame.

In my opinion.

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Equally I'm entitled to my opinion and will state it. That's MY business. It's an open forum and we're not expected to agree so long as we're civil. I've had my share of poor experiences over the years and this doesn't sound like a big deal compared to all the disappointments to be had. However, for the girl involved it could become a VERY big deal, which would be a shame. In my opinion.

Offer good service to ALL and it wouldnt happen apart from with malicious liars who are arseholes. What happens with Sadie now is between her and HOD, if she were to leave thats her and HODs responsibility 100%, in my opinion. As her good service far far outweighs the bad she cant usually be that bad my logic tells me but that is no consolation to the OP. Yourself and others on here have received good service so i assume that is taken into account but thats not my business of course.

If i receive bad service i would and have posted about it on here as i have when receiving good service, i dont not post warning and informing other punters in case it effects her future business, thats her responsibility to only offer good service so that scenario wont occur if she does. Warning, informing and sharing honest information is one of the main advantages and purposes of a punting forum.

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The reporter shouldn't knock hod on the head because of a bad experience with sadie.it's in my opinion the best parlour in London for the price and the wide variety of types of girls working there.

If he went back and saw any of them he'd no doubt have a great experience,but a couple of note are rebecca(English flower) jade(brazilian and gorgeous) or Elise(EE pse type).there are more but these three I have seen recently and all were mind-blowing

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This isn't relevant to what happened to the OP but by contrast I had this experience this week with HoD, I was booked in as the first appointment of the day at 11.00 am for 30 minutes, unfortunately the girl was late and didn't get into the room until about ten past, anyway we'd finished by just after 11.30, as I was about to leave I handed over the money to her and she said "I was late getting here have £10 back", which was fair as it had turned into a 20 minute appointment by accident anyway. I was impressed with that, she needn't have done it and I certainly wasn't expecting it.

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I really appreciate the responses and not giving me too much stick. I will have a private conversation with hod. They have already contacted me which to me, shows me how amicable they want to be. The reason I didn't complain is very simple. I don't want to make a scene causing a situation that would cause what I do to become apparent to my friends and family. This is a discussion forum and I am not "venting me spleen" just having a discussion.

The number of WG's have seen is less than double figures, but the ones I have seen will tell you I am a genuine guy who doesn't cause trouble. (some are on this forum). I openly accept that I should of contacted HOD first. In light of the what could happen to Sadie. I wish I did now.

With regard to Sadie, I do stand by what I said in my original post. However, she is a really nice lady and I do not want anyone to think the services were not any good, i do not wish hardship come to anyone nor do I want to see her fired and deprive others of her services. I will make this very clear to the owners of HOD. I have spoken on other threads about seeing Sadie as I wanted to try roleplay and heard so much about her. When neither uniforms and rp was offered, it was a nice time, just not quite what I was looking\hoping for. I am not very good at confrontation and didn't really want to push it.

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We open from 11 am until 8 pm, Monday to Friday. Do you think we should close earlier than 8 pm ?

Nope, you should close when you choose to. I usually book appointments much earlier in the day, so it hasn't been an issue for me, but I was just musing on one of Overworked's comments about girls possibly being "knackered out" near the end of a busy day. I hadn't really thought about it before, but an 11am-8pm shift doing a physically and mentally (and emotionally at times, I'd imagine) demanding job does seem like rather a long haul. It all depends on just how intensive your day's been, I suppose!

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Nope, you should close when you choose to. I usually book appointments much earlier in the day, so it hasn't been an issue for me, but I was just musing on one of Overworked's comments about girls possibly being "knackered out" near the end of a busy day. I hadn't really thought about it before, but an 11am-8pm shift doing a physically and mentally (and emotionally at times, I'd imagine) demanding job does seem like rather a long haul. It all depends on just how intensive your day's been, I suppose!

Actually it is completely the opposite. When you are having a really busy day you are running on adrenaline and the day flies by, I would say I personally offered my best service when I was busy as you are on a constant high. Yes the minute you stop you just want a stiff drink or feet up and a cup of tea but it is the quiet days that really take it out of the girls. As most girls work a maximum of 3 days a week I don't think they want sympathy they enjoy being busy. They get paid a lot of money for doing a relatively easy job ( I know I have done it) and it would be wrong to state otherwise when you think of the works nurses, doctors and carers put in for so little renumeration.

As for Sadie she is a simply lovely girl and has never had bad feedback so I'm sure she will have a simple explanation for this. She may have thought that the role play was perhaps too specialist and therefore offered it at a venue where it could be carried out successfully, she may not have been comfortable with the request. I don't know but I know sometimes we get calls for role play and of course over the phone we will take the appointment if the girl offers that service. Most men will not tell us what they are looking for over the phone just role play. It is when they arrive that the problems can start when they ask for something that the girl really isn't comfortable with. We had a case of this a few weeks ago the girl in question and the maid got slated on an Fr because she would not allow the chap to tie her up and then take her with force in a rape scenario. She got the bad FR for not offering what he had paid for and being miserable. I can imagine the atmosphere after the girl had said no he should have left it after she was honest that she didn't want to participate.

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A couple of things about the hours WGs do. Firstly they arent forced, they voluntarily agree to work the hours offered or can refuse. If an Indie they have full control of how much or little they wish to work. Common sense tells me they work the hours they are comfortable doing. Some i speak to want to work as much as possible so as to make as much money as they can.

Secondly how come party WGs can punt with 40 punters a day and still be as good at 8.30pm as at 1pm when they started, full of energy and stamina. What they do is deal with up to 4 punters at one time and dont get much of a break during a party although they do get a break between parties. Again they also agree to these hours freely.

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Sadie has now read this thread in full and has emailed me her response. I have sent a copy of this to Bobsam as I do not think it is fair on Sadie to publish it on the public forum.

There is an issue regarding another establishment telling her not to offer role-play at HoD as they cannot compete with our pricing. I think they should perhaps look at their own business rather than enforcing rules on our staff when they are working for us !

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I have noticed that Sadie has no recent reports on pn compared to most of the hod girls.do people think this is due to her regulars etc not being bothered to file reports,or due to her not being as good SS she used to be??anyone?

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