Lilly B

Honest Wg's...

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Honest WG's, how easy is it to become not so ?

Being honest costs you bookings. Today, someone called to book me for 12 noon, mentioning he'd seen me before - great !

But then I asked 'How long ago did you see me ?' When I was living at my last place which was two years ago, Ok says I but how long ago ? About 3 years ago was his answer. My service has changed a lot this past 3 and more years so simply 'Did you see me when I offered naturist massage ?' Yes he did. I replied that whilst I still offer a kind of sensual massage I no longer am naked. 'Oh, we'll leave it then' and he puts the phone down.

I just lost me money by being honest.

Had he made the effort to get here, what's the likelihood of him leaving because I now keep my clothes on ? You'll have your own views on that ^_^:P

Another regular client who I used to spend a little time afterwards chatting with him, free time, when he called to make his next booking, for an hour, I had a 2 hour slot so he could nicely fit in between the two bookings giving me my usual half hour in between, but I had to tell him that this time, sorry I'd not be able to spend time chatting with him afterwards - 'Oh well, I'll make it another day then'. Never saw him again :mellow:

Thing is tho, this happens all the time, me being honest costing me bookings. The guy's already arranging his booked time with me, not asked me what services I offer, or checked them to be what he's looking for, he just wants his booking.

A complete bugbear of that is that it's probably only 1 or 2 in 10 who actually thank me for being honest 'offering' to say what I actually do and saving them their money to go elsewhere if I don't do what they're looking for <_<

If I was of the mind I'd accept all these bookings (like I said, they are already booking the time with me) and take the consequences of the client who thought he was coming for one thing but something else was available, or not, how easily would it be for me to grow hardened to the fall out of these pissed off clients ?

Ladies and agencies remind posters here from time to time that not all clients are as well informed as they are, and think about it, if a lone lady comes in to this business, has she already got it in her mind to skank clients, or has she found our thru their way of approaching her for bookings that she simply can ?

I suppose it only adds further weight to knowing and using PunterNet. Perhaps until a punter gets more established in his own experience of visiting escorts, after reading how wonderfully honest and businesslike (for want of a better word) us ladies who advertise here are, and to then visit ladies who may not have the same work ethic - well, the only option can be to only visit us PunterNet Ladies :)

But ladies how true is it being honest costs you money ?

And guys, if you don't already, when calling a lady please thank her if ever she tells you something about her service that changes your mind about visiting - helps stop her kicking herself for being honest.

Edited by Lilly B

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Lilly, thank you for your honesty and post. Might you say that the flip side of that is an intangible benefit whereby, any client who does vist you is therefore confident and secure in knowing that he will be getting what he hoped for and will likely want to see you again?

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Sorry to learn that honesty didn't pay off in this case but at least your pride and integrity are intact. Personally I'd be grateful for an honest response. Usually I get promised the earth until I've parted with the money and then the earth, oceans and atmosphere all evaporate.

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I think it's right to be totally honest where (as in the above cases) you have either changed what you do or are not able to offer the same service, due to time. If you were not honest on the call then the customers involved are bound to be disappointed and too late to decide not to book (leading to a lost customer and possibly a bad FR/feedback).

I can understand you liking to be thanked for being honest, but trying to put myself in that position on the end of the phone, I'd like to think I'd say thanks (I'm sure I would) but I'd clearly be disappointed so perhaps it would come across as insincere!

The bigger problem is dishonesty where everything requested is claimed to be possible while on the phone, but once there it turns out that there are many reasons why the promised services are not available. I've only had that once. You should be very proud that you are not in that group!

Mark

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Honesty may have cost you bookings in these two cases but let's say you didn't say anything. He comes and realises you're not naked.. Either he walks and both your time has been wasted or he goes through with it begrudgingly because he feels too polite to walk. Or perhaps he writes you a negative FR and says you were misleading or dishonest. That will cost you more business lost in the long run. Always be honest and let the punter decide. Take it on the chin if they don't want to book you. There will be people that will.

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Happens all the time! They call and ask if I do anal, CIM, can they tie me up, can I be domme with them and so on. I will never ever pretend I do something when I won't mainly because I'm not a fibber or a con artist and nor do I want negative reviews anywhere but also for my own security. Why would I want to piss a man off by not allowing him to do something- in this game you have to do everything you can to stay safe. OK, most men wouldn't get nasty if you refuse something but why take the risk? Nor do I want to deal with wheedling and pleading which is really bloody annoying. Men who think they have something special about them that will make me want to break my own rules despite being clear on them really do my head in- but that's a separate post!

So yeah, if I wanted I could rip off plenty of men off by saying I'll do something I won't when it comes down to it, which is how I see it if girls do this- not as losing business.

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Please forgive the ignorance and any misunderstanding of the thread, but is it not the case that, in this business as in others, there are those providers who prioritise sheer numbers and those who perhaps plan their model longer-term to encourage as much repeat business as possible?

Surely the latter is more conducive to ensuring honesty throughout whereas the former suits a stretchier use of descriptions.

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Glad to hear there are other honest ones out there! People always seems surprised I'm honest, I do what I say, I don't pass over booking for more money.

Had the same situation with the booking in between bookings though! People get offended if you have to slot them in - I've had it happen to me!

Clearly we are a rare breed!

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Thanks for the replies - Yes I am honest for the reason of my longevity, good reputation, reviews etc and I think many of the honest ladies out there would have had similar experiences to me.

AsgardsSon my pondering was.... that some days, having an honest way of working can get you down, as again some days being honest doesn't get appreciated.

Thankfully for me most days are good days, but were that not the case... the almost unanswerable question...

How easy is it to then stop yourself becoming that service provider who sets out to deceive ?

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I'd rather I saw guys who wanted to see 'me', than turn up expecting something or someone else. I have however been known to say I'm fully booked, when in truth I simply am having some time to myself - or personal things arranged. The latter can result in some guys thinking you may be persuaded otherwise.

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I do that too - I call it being honest that I'm not available to work ;)

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Have never mislead anyone as regards my services. Don't say anything on my website that anyone could take offence to such as 'I am pretty'. I say it like it is, and provide a good honest service. The only place I seem to get at odds over things is on here when all I am attempting to do is build bridges. Wasting my time.

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I have however been known to say I'm fully booked, when in truth I simply am having some time to myself - or personal things arranged.

That's still the truth - you're fully booked for the times you want to work.

Mark

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I'd rather I saw guys who wanted to see 'me', than turn up expecting something or someone else. I have however been known to say I'm fully booked, when in truth I simply am having some time to myself - or personal things arranged. The latter can result in some guys thinking you may be persuaded otherwise.

I don't find that dishonest and would rather hear that than be booked in for a session which turns out to be a rush. Time to yourself is very important in an industry when you give a lot of yourself on many punts.

I try to be honest with WG's and expect the same. I have to say that I have rarely been let down. Perhaps 3 poor punts in the last 10 years.

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The thing with the regular used to grind my gears! If I want to spend extra time with someone then fine but it shouldn't be expected and the time you pay for is the time you pay for, regular or not!

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The thing with the regular used to grind my gears! If I want to spend extra time with someone then fine but it shouldn't be expected and the time you pay for is the time you pay for, regular or not!

Absolutely correct, however this can be one of the pitfalls of letting appointments over run - if you can't offer the extra time, the client can become peeved or think you've fallen out with them. The girl may then worry she'll lose a nice regular.

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Absolutely correct, however this can be one of the pitfalls of letting appointments over run - if you can't offer the extra time, the client can become peeved or think you've fallen out with them. The girl may then worry she'll lose a nice regular.

There you’ve hit the nail on the head. I’m sure with most guys (particularly who see indies) it’s a psychological thing – it ties in with their perception of good value for money. If you are an indie and you’re not working to a tight time schedule – wheeling one in the door soon after the other has left – then to factor in a degree of overrun must be a good way of working. It’s not as if, I suggest, that ‘extra time’ is all spent bonking – at least, not with most punters – and a 10 or 15 minute over run – or even 30 on perhaps a two-hour appointment – is really neither here nor there unless, of course, it’s a particularly uncomfortable punt for whatever reason and you’re glad to get him out the door.

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ive never thought of being honest as losing money - not being honest would loose me money though i would be stressed out at the thought of a client turning up not knowing everything that i do and dont do and im to much of a hippy chick for stress, i dont do stress

and ive always been honest, its never entered my mind not to be !!!!! i wouldnt dream of saying i doxxxx and then when they get their do it

i dont smoke and i dislike the smell of smoke and ciggarets , it give me tickly throat if i kiss someone that smokes, but i dont say to someone after they have paid me sorry mate but i cant kiss you cos you smoke, and i dont like it, i just carry on in the same way that i would do if they were a non smoker and kiss them in the same way regardles and make sure that i have a glass or water or coke in the room so that my throat dosnt get irritable

and i would much rather lose a potential booking on the phone than someone turn up and ask for stuff that i dont do and leave because of that - if that happens ive lost twice over once to this person and then to anyone else who wanted that same time

i go through my services with clients on the phone when they call and again when they arrive before they pay me, it stops any problems with them thinking that i do /offer services that i dont do before i take the money

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My 'being honest' comment was more about volunteering information that would cost me the booking, rather than a client asking if I offered xxxx and me honestly saying I did or didn't. Nowt lost if a client asks for it and I don't offer it....

But when he hasn't asked, like in my regular client looking for his usual extra time, and the other one where he hadn't checked nearly 3 years alter I was still offering the same service... I volunteered the truth, rather than them asking.

Yes OK it was only going to be better me telling the truth, but I needn't have. I could have waited till they got to the booking and seen what they decided to do i.e how much little head was in control... and how many times do we hear that comment....

And like Bristol Ebony Escort, the only way is to go over my service on the phone, whether they've asked me to or not, and it continues to amaze me how many guys call wanting to fix their booking time and then ask me how much I charge and what exactly is on offer.... like OK, now I know you can see me today, what is it you do ?

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it also amazes me how many guys just give me the money before i have explained what i do /dont do ( although i have already explained on the phone they probably only heard bj and a fuck :D and the price) most gents will just hand over the money without asking what i do /dont do so it probably explains why so many guys are prone to getting ripped off by crap escorts

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Honest WG's, how easy is it to become not so ?

But ladies how true is it being honest costs you money ?

Interesting question, because it's about providing a fantasy for another, does it make it potentially easier to get caught up in dishonesty. Do you have to be a certain kind of person to get into sex work and any prior hint of neurosis could be triggered by the work ? As the range of people in it is so vast there'll be no room for sweeping generalisations but it is something I've pondered. Sometimes it's extremely difficult to stick to your guns.

After a while I realised that until the appointment is completed, regardless of x,y and z, you never really know if a potential booking was going to equal cash in hand/envelope. What you may believe you've lost with one hand is usually gained with the other. Conscience is one of the deciding factors as to how you run your business, how easily you can sleep at night and what may come back to haunt you some day.

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it also amazes me how many guys just give me the money before i have explained what i do /dont do ( although i have already explained on the phone they probably only heard bj and a fuck :D and the price) most gents will just hand over the money without asking what i do /dont do so it probably explains why so many guys are prone to getting ripped off by crap escorts

I always seek confirmation clearly and concisely on whether the services i require are defintely on offer both on the phone and in person before handing my money over, thats the best i can do to avoid being lied to. No punts in a long time although a number of walk outs before paying shows me its a good modus for me. Those you mention who dont seek this confirmation are not too smart in my opinion. :)

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I always seek confirmation clearly and concisely on whether the services i require are defintely on offer both on the phone and in person before handing my money over, thats the best i can do to avoid being lied to. No punts in a long time although a number of walk outs before paying shows me its a good modus for me. Those you mention who dont seek this confirmation are not too smart in my opinion. :)

I don't think I've ever had anyone do this with me, cue someone turning up and now doing just that! My biggest problem is guys wanting to go over and over services on the phone, in person it doesn't seem to happen - then again those who do go over and over them never seem to make a booking.

Hmmmm.

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I don't think I've ever had anyone do this with me, cue someone turning up and now doing just that! My biggest problem is guys wanting to go over and over services on the phone, in person it doesn't seem to happen - then again those who do go over and over them never seem to make a booking. Hmmmm.

As ever its borne out of being lied to in the past. I have made a booking agreeing that OWO for example was on offer but when at the WGs place found AFTER i had handed my money over it wasnt as she had bad gums, yeah right, but once the money is stashed thats it, asking for it back usually results in a no chance, so i confirm in person nowadays as well as thats the very best i can do. ;)

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Ruth

I have to say I am still surprised that you do this ( go over and over services on the phone ).

Does the fact that they don't make a booking not tell you something?

You could be ( make that..... WILL be ) giving them a free "nice time" with those conversations.

It never.... ever...... happens to me because I don't discuss services over the phone at all with someone

I have not met for precisely that reason.

Those men who are not interested in turning up without discussing services first are free to try it with

other ladies.... but absolutely not with me!

I have met many guys who have asked about services on the phone and been told sorry I don't do that

unless we have already met.

They have still turned up and I really don't think they have missed out on much at all. ;)

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