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Are You Good Looking/pull 'normal' Girls? But Use Punters?

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Hi, perhaps you were once young and good looking or even are so now or normal looking but good with girls. But use escorts also? why?

ANwyay my question is more on how to meet girls and I guess this is the wrong forum.

But techincally I can attract girls but I lack social skills or ability to talk to girls especially to have sex. Im also unsure if its rude and inapropriate and uncommon to initate sex talk with girls or this is normal/acceptable behaviour?

How do you do this and how easy are normal girls. I hear stories of girls having sex in club toilets, in streets, in parks etc. I even had sex with a girl on holiday on a beach i just met that day. SO many girls are easy to have sex with? Or do most girls prefer to date or have a relationship before putting out? In a nightclub I have snogged a few girls but never knew how to turn that into sex? what to say/do etc?

For me I am not so interested in meeting/dating girls just sex with attractive girls, therefore prostitutes are not a bad option right? But if you are decent looking is it really possible to have sex with girls easily anyway?

I read people say its cheaper to get an escort than sex a real girl with money spent on dates etc..but what about the girls like the one on holiday that had sex on beach, or the stories I hear of girls taking dog a walk and having sex in park etc.....this is very rare? Yet I hear stories from freinds say they done 3 girls this week. Or some girl done 6 guys in one night etc...based on these stories it seems to me casual sex, one night stands are common and easy to get? But I really have no idea? or HOw to go about it?

I also am kind off picky. THerefore if I chose escorts I can chose an attractive female most often right? Whereas if you want easy free casual sex with normal eveyrday girls then its unliekly you will have sex with such attractive girls?

Im just looking for peoples thoughts, experiences and suggestions in this area (though perhaps not the best forum)

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It's an interesting topic, thanks. For me, I wouldn't describe myself as being very good looking, but I'm lucky in the sense that every girlfriend I've had has been attractive by any standard. I think it's a combination of things. I've always been active and have worked hard at the gym to look good - and when I'm in peak shape I noticeably find it easier to get girls to talk to me in bars/clubs etc. Also I'm lucky that I grew up in an environment where banter ruled, and you had to develop good banter etc - and this is the biggest thing. If you're out at a party or something and you're on good form then people will be attracted to you. If you're quiet and sheepish without much to say for yourself then you'll find it much harder. I know a guy who's very good looking but has no chat whatsoever and finds it hard to pull/keep girlfriends.

For me I punt simply because I enjoy it, I like the thrill of paying for it, the seediness, but also getting to pick a girl I want to have sex with, and where possible the best looking girl I can find - all for the price of a couple of dates with a girl who may be less attractive.

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I've been told I'm handsome and look a lot younger than my 40 years, by both civvies and wgs (yeah yeah yeah I know as the predictable chorus chimes in with 'they tell you what you want to hear..blah blah yawn')

However, I think its more a case of making the most of what you've got in terms of appearance/dress/grooming etc and in terms of personality, not being afraid to really be yourself and not being afraid of making a 'fool' of yourself in terms of the opposite sex.

Throughout my life I've had a small number of long term relationships, and after losing my virginity have only been single once for an extended period of around a year and a half, and in almost every case where I became involved with someone, it was the woman who made the first move.

The one time where I really did all the chasing and the running was with my current partner.

We met in a club (not your typical deafeningly loud, booze addled meat market but somewhere a lot more civilized where you can have a conversation without shouting or having drinks spilled on you) and quickly became good friends.

Once we got to know each other over the space of a few years (I was already with someone and not really looking for anyone else), I fell for her.............................. big time, and told her.

I got the typical 'I'm not ready for a relationship, I love you as a friend' routine from her, yet for me she just had everything I'd ever wanted in a woman: beautiful, warm, highly intelligent, spoke her mind and what she said was worth listening to, extroverted, independent, genuine, very funny, disarmingly friendly, exceedingly sexy, phenomenal in the kitchen (i later discovered) and we had so much in common in terms of our likes, dislikes and interests.

My attempts at getting past the 'good friends' barrier seemed futile though, until in my desperation I happened across the 'becomeaplayer' website

I had, and still have no interest in becoming 'a player' but i wanted this woman so badly that i'd try almost anything

I checked out a lot of the free articles on there and came across some stuff on the seemingly very difficult task of 'turning a long established friend into a lover'

What can I say ?............it really worked !!

And it didnt cost a penny, I just took on board some of the hints and tips (the sensible sounding stuff) available amongst the tons of free articles on there, and very useful info. it turned out to be too !!

It sounds incredibly cheesy I know, but all I can say in its defence is that it worked for me, and that youve got nothing to lose.

It sounds to me as though youre more interested in being able to easily 'pull' lots of a girls in clubs etc, becoming a player as the website claims, which I wasnt at all interested in, rather than a search for a serious 'other' ?

Well, Im sure that the site would be of great interest to you as thats its main focus. And if it allowed me success when previously I wasnt getting anywhere romantically with my then 'friend', now 'lover', then I'm pretty sure it could help you.

Edited by BillGoldberg

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I think the term "Urban Myth" comes to mind Gruntpunt.

I'm not saying what you are suggesting is impossible but for a lot of us punters the wrong side of 50 pigs have more chance of flying than us meeting a lady walking her dog and having sex with her or having a knee trembler in the pub toilet on a Saturday night.

Unfortunately most of the women I meet in social situations are the ones I don't want to have sex with !

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(The other interesting aside to this story is that my current gfs ex partner was seriously rich..........and i'm a pauper in comparison, which makes her conversion from 'friend' into my 'lover' even more remarkable) - a point that gives further credibility to the effectiveness of the techniques/hints/tips on the site)

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(The other interesting aside to this story is that my current gfs ex partner was seriously rich..........and i'm a pauper in comparison, which makes her conversion from 'friend' into my 'lover' even more remarkable) - a point that gives further credibility to the effectiveness of the techniques/hints/tips on the site)

Perhaps he wasn't a four-times WCW champion, which is arguably more of a selling point than a fat wallet? ;)

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Perhaps he wasn't a four-times WCW champion, which is arguably more of a selling point than a fat wallet? ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: !!

Good point, and one which I'd forgotten, thank God I have you and wikipedia to remind me of past achievements

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Goldberg

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I think the term "Urban Myth" comes to mind Gruntpunt.

I'm not saying what you are suggesting is impossible but for a lot of us punters the wrong side of 50 pigs have more chance of flying than us meeting a lady walking her dog and having sex with her or having a knee trembler in the pub toilet on a Saturday night.

Unfortunately most of the women I meet in social situations are the ones I don't want to have sex with !

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I appreciate your point but it is not relevant to my discussion, no offense. Off course I doubt the aveagre 50+ guy is meeting hot teen, 20s girls. But as a young student myself I have potential and opportunites to meet and talk to these girls which I on occasion do. And in ''the scene'' the stories I mention in OP are not myth but in fact true. ( MOst recent story I have heard, last week- my freind and his mate were out drinking all night at weekend, met a girl and spit roasted her in a park.)

However, I would say that perhaps % off girls this slutty are not high? But then again there is definitely a lot off them from what I see and hear. But they are most likely not the most attractive girls right?

What I am asking here is, if you are young decent looking male 16-30 then how easy and ''cheap'' can you get regualr sex with many decent looking girls? Can you msg girls on facebook etc and arrange to met for sex? Or is this dreamland stuff? Sometimes based on the above stories Id think you could walk into some slutty bar any night and pull a girl and have sex all for the cost off a night out and perhaps taxi. Cheaper than a hooker?

Then again sometimes I am with girls and making out but the likelihood off full sex seems unlikely and Im not sure how to go about propostitiong it. With minimal experience I can say when I made out with some girls and asked if interested in sex a couple were but others werent. However, I have not enough experience to give a full evaluation.

Perhaps I will experiment. I regularly go to the gym and am now in pretty good shape. I also decently well endowed (ok I prob sound big headed now or lier lol). So, I will make attempts at chatting up random girls with view to having sex ASAP. As I say I have nothing to lose as I got hookers anyway as backup.

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I don't like alcohol so i cba going to clubs and pubs. Unfortunately for me, that's where all the girls are. I prefer to avoid the possible rejection. I don't want children yet. I'm enjoying the variety of meeting lovely women. I like searching the purple site and find this hobby very enjoyable and fascinating.

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Gruntpunt, just look around you. There are loads of nice girls with mediocre looking blokes. Most girls really don't set the bar very high at all. Now get off the Internet and get out there...

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Gruntpunt, just look around you. There are loads of nice girls with mediocre looking blokes. Most girls really don't set the bar very high at all. Now get off the Internet and get out there...

Yeh Ive noticed thats very true. I have seen hot girls with ugly bfs and hot girls snogging ugly guys.

But still I wonder how easy it is to get sex and how cheap and the service. If I want a great blowjob and cum in face do I have better chance with a hooker. I think also with hooekers you can chose attractive ones. Whereas with general public perhaps its harder to get such quality for easy sex.

Nonetheless I feel being young I guess I should try rather than use escorts. Escorts should be backup.

Im really making this thread asking on advice how to talk to girls and chat them up and if its normal to ask girls for sex directly or indirectly, how to go about it exaclty? Be direct put them of;f be to indirect never get sex? etc...

As a punter forum I guess not best place to ask for adcvcie on pulling girls lol but ya never know?

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I do feel for you, lacking social skills. For a man, that is more of a drawback than looks.

And in my opnion, it is not appropriate to initiate sex talk randomly with women unless you are at a swingers or fetish club or something. I would run a mile! It's such a turn-off, unless you are drunk! I can talk, the night I met my boyfriend I was drunk, he was sober, I asked him for a lift home (yes, really), gave him a bj whilst he was driving (which he didn't want and tried to push me off!), sounds awful, but we have been going strong for years now and are in love. You need to find a drunk, loose woman maybe, LOL. I'd never do anything like that again though. I was nihilistic and reckless then.

Clients don't always seek wg's because they can't pull, I have two regular clients who are dead ringers for David Beckham, it's often the thrill or they aren't getting it at home.

There are websites, like adultfriendfinder.com, but they can be crap.

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I do feel for you, lacking social skills. For a man, that is more of a drawback than looks.

And in my opnion, it is not appropriate to initiate sex talk randomly with women unless you are at a swingers or fetish club or something. I would run a mile! It's such a turn-off, unless you are drunk! I can talk, the night I met my boyfriend I was drunk, he was sober, I asked him for a lift home (yes, really), gave him a bj whilst he was driving (which he didn't want and tried to push me off!), sounds awful, but we have been going strong for years now and are in love. You need to find a drunk, loose woman maybe, LOL. I'd never do anything like that again though. I was nihilistic and reckless then.

Clients don't always seek wg's because they can't pull, I have two regular clients who are dead ringers for David Beckham, it's often the thrill or they aren't getting it at home.

There are websites, like adultfriendfinder.com, but they can be crap.

hi there nice to hear input from a girl. In fact that is what I should do!! get girls advice on how to chat up girls!!! Better than asking guys right?

SO yeh talking sex is weird and creepy but in a club or drunk night it can be more acceptable?

But how does one pick up girls when they dont like pubs and clubs etc. Also if one has little interest in dating but is just horny and only wants 'sex acts'' pursuing girls in this manner should only be at best tried at certain slutty nightclubs and not in the university libraby etc? THerefore in this situaiton when you only want sex but dislike clubs etc paying for sex seems most realistic option despite the costly and moral dilemma about it?

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Restaurants, any sort of sports / country club at which you may be a member, any number of Internet sites, long train journeys.

Or the odd forced situation that granny thinks would be "a good match".

I'm sure there are plenty of possibilities but of course none as direct as this hobby.

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hi there nice to hear input from a girl. In fact that is what I should do!! get girls advice on how to chat up girls!!! Better than asking guys right?

SO yeh talking sex is weird and creepy but in a club or drunk night it can be more acceptable?

But how does one pick up girls when they dont like pubs and clubs etc. Also if one has little interest in dating but is just horny and only wants 'sex acts'' pursuing girls in this manner should only be at best tried at certain slutty nightclubs and not in the university libraby etc? THerefore in this situaiton when you only want sex but dislike clubs etc paying for sex seems most realistic option despite the costly and moral dilemma about it?

Seriously!

You will more than likely get done for harrassment if you think you can just approach a girl for sex acts and nothing else out in civilian life. Unless they were really drunk and just went with the first guy or three they saw (I have a friend like that!) it is very unlikely and often these girls will be in bars/clubs simply having had too much to drink and not to be found in the university library.

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Can I just say that this poster posts on numerous different forums that I do and asks these same questions everywhere, gets solid advice, takes no notice of it and continues asking the same questions. He'll tell you how he only likes perfect looking girls, is afraid to punt here, only wants to punt abroad etc. etc. while also bigging up his own good looks and talking about Justin Beiber. I know it sounds harsh and he's relatively new here but I've been seeing him post this exact same stuff on ISG and other forums and he just ignores the advice every time.

Anyway, on topic, I'm young and I guess good looking. I often get told I'm good looking but I'm overweight so that holds me back and I'm not massively confident due to that. I'm very witty and I guess funny when I get chatting to someone though so when I'm on form, I do alright with girls. Oddly enough, I've actually had quite a bit of success just playfully asking random girls for a kiss, some play along and give you a peck on the cheek or lips, some just go for it and you get a proper pull, it's all in good fun. In terms of picking girls up for sex, I'm not great at it but it has happened in the past, it's not the hardest thing in the world if you're not a psycho and the girl is drunk and/or easy. It's not a good idea to just start talking to random girls about sex, it's better to playfully broach the subject with innuendo and jokes and see how she takes it.

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Pulling girls in Clubs/Pubs/Bars when you're below average looking (and by the sound of it also below average intelligence) is really just a numbers game. Keep that fear of rejection in your back pocket - just go up and say a polite "Hi, how are you doing - I noticed you from across the room and wanted to say hello" and see where it leads. I 100% guarantee you if you do this to enough hot chicks eventually you'll pull a cracker.......

you always have the "banker" WG in reserve - when you know you're gonna get fucked senseless anyway the pressure to try for shagging a civvie isn't so great.

give it a go.......you'll thank me one day! :)

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Thanks for all advice so far people.

Pulling girls in Clubs/Pubs/Bars when you're below average looking (and by the sound of it also below average intelligence) is really just a numbers game. Keep that fear of rejection in your back pocket - just go up and say a polite "Hi, how are you doing - I noticed you from across the room and wanted to say hello" and see where it leads. I 100% guarantee you if you do this to enough hot chicks eventually you'll pull a cracker.......

you always have the "banker" WG in reserve - when you know you're gonna get fucked senseless anyway the pressure to try for shagging a civvie isn't so great.

give it a go.......you'll thank me one day! :)

Yes that is what I said in other thread, since I slept with model quality hookers and know for 30-150 quid I can do it again means I dont fear no hot girls or rejection but that was never a main issue for me anwyay. As for below average looks/intelligence I am neither. However, I do have seriously big issues in socialising and social skills in everyday life even with relatives nevermind strangers and furthermore trying to ''get sex'' so to speak. My freinds that pull even say its not about looks about how you act, confidence and what you say etc..etc..And I have witnessed it for example a fat balding guy I worked with would pull girls all the time becuase every night hes be out drinking/partying being funny and lively etc......

So, as you can see, in my situation I am in, prostitution is great as it does not require any type of social skills at all, just a little. Though financially, safety, mentally and what not Id rather not use them at least until Im an old fart who really has no choice.

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