Taz

Attack Of The Trolls?

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I have started to use PNET much more regularly than before and its been very helpful for me, but in the last few days and weeks it seems that posts by a couple of individuals (I am not going to mention any names) have been shocking. The attitudes shown to WGs and women in general has been disgusting. Dont get me wrong I do like a joke or two with male and female mates but some of the things said have been over the line.

So I just wondered do you think these are likely to be "trolls" or is this the attitude of some people nowadays? I know we shouldn't let a minority effect our judgement on a majority but I can see why some WGs prefer not see younger guys which ruins it for genuine guys like myself and many others on here.

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but what are the mods thoughts on these posters? And how many derogatory are they allowed before they get banned? If in fact they are genuine punters and not trolls, will WGs want to see people like that?

Taz

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oops ! this could well be a case of ... last orders served ! :P

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I'm not sure if it's trolls, or people with a very big sense of misguided self-importance.

There is a generally very, very horrible attitude among a substantial number of punters. I think it stems from the fact that because they are paying for something, they have a greater sense of entitlement. As if having money makes them more powerful. And because they feel more powerful, it's as if they can treat people who they think they can 'buy' in whatever way they see fit. Usually with some derogatory terms, so it seems lately.

I, personally, hate the phrase 'value for money' being thrown around. Sometimes people forget that an escort is still a person and not a commodity, regardless of the fact you are paying for sex. Everyone has emotions.

That, and there's also a lot of cowardice too. Almost all the escorts on Punternet are easy to find or identify. The punters are not. We're just usernames. By and large, anonymous. It's almost as if it easy to attack someone, but you can easily hide behind the fact that the other person doesn't know a single thing about you. It's very uncomfortable sometimes.

But it's also important to remember there are still a few nice escorts and punters alike here too. Some people are very worthy of respect.

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I have started to use PNET much more regularly than before and its been very helpful for me, but in the last few days and weeks it seems that posts by a couple of individuals (I am not going to mention any names) have been shocking. The attitudes shown to WGs and women in general has been disgusting. Dont get me wrong I do like a joke or two with male and female mates but some of the things said have been over the line.

So I just wondered do you think these are likely to be "trolls" or is this the attitude of some people nowadays? I know we shouldn't let a minority effect our judgement on a majority but I can see why some WGs prefer not see younger guys which ruins it for genuine guys like myself and many others on here.

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but what are the mods thoughts on these posters? And how many derogatory are they allowed before they get banned? If in fact they are genuine punters and not trolls, will WGs want to see people like that?

Taz

IMO one is not 18 and if he is he knows NOTHING about interacting with women and has a terrible attitude towards them in my view. Another might be 18 although i am not convinced but also has a terrible attitude towards women. Both show no respect. I have no doubt the Mods will deal with these posters and note they have locked threads which i for one appreciate. :)

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I don't think it is any worse now than it has been during the time I have been a member of the forum. It must just be that you are noticing it more because you are reading more. There are always a few people about who either are adolescents or have the minds of adolescents. There are always a few people who don't have respect for women. There are always a few people who keep worrying at a subject long after everyone else has decided it should just be left alone. There are always a few people who come looking for a fight. There are always a few people who just don't seem to realise what a toxic presence they are on the forum. They recur with timesome regularity. Like the poor they are always with us. But they are only ever a tiny if irritating minority.

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I'm not sure if it's trolls, or people with a very big sense of misguided self-importance.

There is a generally very, very horrible attitude among a substantial number of punters. I think it stems from the fact that because they are paying for something, they have a greater sense of entitlement. As if having money makes them more powerful. And because they feel more powerful, it's as if they can treat people who they think they can 'buy' in whatever way they see fit. Usually with some derogatory terms, so it seems lately.

I, personally, hate the phrase 'value for money' being thrown around. Sometimes people forget that an escort is still a person and not a commodity, regardless of the fact you are paying for sex. Everyone has emotions.

That, and there's also a lot of cowardice too. Almost all the escorts on Punternet are easy to find or identify. The punters are not. We're just usernames. By and large, anonymous. It's almost as if it easy to attack someone, but you can easily hide behind the fact that the other person doesn't know a single thing about you. It's very uncomfortable sometimes.

But it's also important to remember there are still a few nice escorts and punters alike here too. Some people are very worthy of respect.

Thank you for saying this. You've restored my faith in humanity.

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Unfortunately the internet has thrown up this new low life, you get "trolls" on lots of interactive websites, what they get from it is beyond me.

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It has nothing to do with age really, just the individuals themselves. There are respectful people and there are disrespectful people in all walks of life. Fortunately I tend to meet the former.

I did see a gentleman the other day that, within a few minutes of meeting me, said "get on your back, I want my money's worth". Put me right at ease immediately. He was in is 50's. The booking itself was fine but I was a bit nonplussed at that line.

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relax folks, trolls just need a hugging !

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The guys with an overbearing sense of self importance that tend to post about value for money and postulate about pro$$ies etc often are the ones that actually have not got a lot of money. They are in fact resentful about these uppity escorts being out of reach. Like spiteful bitter window lickers they have their noses pressed close to the screen and spout their drivel.

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Then there is the guy who post's provocatively in order to get a reaction. I confess to having done that a time or two but I trust that other readers will appreciate my point of view. Irony can be mis-read!

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So I just wondered do you think these are likely to be "trolls" or is this the attitude of some people nowadays? I know we shouldn't let a minority effect our judgement on a majority but I can see why some WGs prefer not see younger guys which ruins it for genuine guys like myself and many others on here.

The mods here are very experienced and will deal with it quietly and efficiently as usual. Over the past few years Punternet has dealt with a lot worse, believe me.

There are good'uns and bad'uns in all age groups, classes, races, creeds and genders. 'Twas ever thus. Best not to judge a whole generation by a couple of thoughtless, selfish posters (or if you like, "trolls").

Perhaps they are trolls or perhaps they simply are self obsessed youngsters who have yet to learn that other people have feelings as well. Either way, they'll soon get bored and move onto more fertile ground.

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I did see a gentleman the other day that, within a few minutes of meeting me, said "get on your back, I want my money's worth".

Hastily writes it down, with pulling lines like that I will be a babe magnet in no time!

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I did see a gentleman the other day that, within a few minutes of meeting me, said "get on your back, I want my money's worth".

Hastily writes it down, with pulling lines like that I will be a babe magnet in no time!

If a client said that to me he'd be getting his money back, not his money's worth. And he'd be out the door.

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It has nothing to do with age really, just the individuals themselves. There are respectful people and there are disrespectful people in all walks of life. Fortunately I tend to meet the former.

I did see a gentleman the other day that, within a few minutes of meeting me, said "get on your back, I want my money's worth". Put me right at ease immediately. He was in is 50's. The booking itself was fine but I was a bit nonplussed at that line.

Pandora, do you think sometimes men say things as part of a fantasy scenario when in reality they would not say boo to a goose. Recently a man told me to 'suck that cock right down you dirty bitch' I duly obliged and sucked all two inches of it - right down :)

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I, personally, hate the phrase 'value for money' being thrown around. Sometimes people forget that an escort is still a person and not a commodity, regardless of the fact you are paying for sex. Everyone has emotions.

Is 'value for money' really such an offensive term when applied to this business ??

Its a service industry just like any other (albeit the most intimate form) and most businesses within other service industries would be glad to have the term 'excellent VFM' associated with them

I provide a service as part of my job and would have no problem with people discussing whether or not I provided good VFM.

Punters whove been with an escort, who it eventually transpires consistently receives bad field reports and reviews, but charges the same hourly rate as someone who consistently receives stellar reviews, quite clearly provides very poor value for money compared to the latter 'feedback star'.

They both charge the same rate, yet punters are consistently satisfied and happy with the service/experience provided by escort (X) as opposed to punters consistently feeling ripped off and extremely dissatisfied by the service/experience provided by escort (Y)

So, again, what is wrong in describing escort X as providing far better VFM than escort Y ?

In talking about VFM, personally I'm not generally talking about comparing and contrasting lists of services and what one escort 'enjoys' vs what another escort doesnt partake in, I'm talking about my overall satisfaction with the whole experience.

I'd also apply the term in the hypothetical example (but there seem to be plenty of real world examples of this as intimated by punters in other related threads) of 2 wgs of equal attractiveness, equal professionalism and bedroom skills, a similar list of likes/dislikes, equal levels of friendliness, charm, conversational ability and personability, operating out of very similar premises in similar parts of town, yet one girl charges £150/hr and the other markets herself as 'high class' and charges £350/hr

Clearly the girl charging £150/hr offers far better VFM - a service comparable in every way to the other girl's in every way, except price

Where is the problem therefore in saying that one girl offers far better VFM in this case ?.......when in fact its simply the truth !

Obviously wgs have a hard job to do and are human beings with feelings and emotions just like anyone else.......this is really 'a given', a complete 'no brainer', and its only the real assholes who think of wgs as somehow subhuman and unworthy of any respect whatsoever.

However I wonder if those constantly trumpeting the feelings and emotions of wgs and disdaining the use of terms such as VFM in this context could really give a flying proverbial for the 'feelings and emotions' of the punter who having saved up for his once monthly punt takes a chance on a real photographic beauty, slightly out of his price range but hes 'flush' this month and her onsite reviews are great and she looks so friendly and smiley in the pictures............only to find a cold, disinterested, clock watcher quick to take his money, quick to decline most of her advertised services and quick to usher him out of the door well before his time is up ?

To wgs such as this, punters are nothing but 'commodities'............so i offer no apologies whatsoever in describing wgs of this ilk as providing extremely poor VFM.............and yet you'd still find this offensive ???

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Is 'value for money' really such an offensive term when applied to this business ??

Its a service industry just like any other (albeit the most intimate form) and most businesses within other service industries would be glad to have the term 'excellent VFM' associated with them

I provide a service as part of my job and would have no problem with people discussing whether or not I provided good VFM.

Punters whove been with an escort, who it eventually transpires consistently receives bad field reports and reviews, but charges the same hourly rate as someone who consistently receives stellar reviews, quite clearly provides very poor value for money compared to the latter 'feedback star'.

They both charge the same rate, yet punters are consistently satisfied and happy with the service/experience provided by escort (X) as opposed to punters consistently feeling ripped off and extremely dissatisfied by the service/experience provided by escort (Y)

So, again, what is wrong in describing escort X as providing far better VFM than escort Y ?

In talking about VFM, personally I'm not generally talking about comparing and contrasting lists of services and what one escort 'enjoys' vs what another escort doesnt partake in, I'm talking about my overall satisfaction with the whole experience.

I'd also apply the term in the hypothetical example (but there seem to be plenty of real world examples of this as intimated by punters in other related threads) of 2 wgs of equal attractiveness, equal professionalism and bedroom skills, a similar list of likes/dislikes, equal levels of friendliness, charm, conversational ability and personability, operating out of very similar premises in similar parts of town, yet one girl charges £150/hr and the other markets herself as 'high class' and charges £350/hr

Clearly the girl charging £150/hr offers far better VFM - a service comparable in every way to the other girl's in every way, except price

Where is the problem therefore in saying that one girl offers far better VFM in this case ?.......when in fact its simply the truth !

Obviously wgs have a hard job to do and are human beings with feelings and emotions just like anyone else.......this is really 'a given', a complete 'no brainer', and its only the real assholes who think of wgs as somehow subhuman and unworthy of any respect whatsoever.

However I wonder if those constantly trumpeting the feelings and emotions of wgs and disdaining the use of terms such as VFM in this context could really give a flying proverbial for the 'feelings and emotions' of the punter who having saved up for his once monthly punt takes a chance on a real photographic beauty, slightly out of his price range but hes 'flush' this month and her onsite reviews are great and she looks so friendly and smiley in the pictures............only to find a cold, disinterested, clock watcher quick to take his money, quick to decline most of her advertised services and quick to usher him out of the door well before his time is up ?

To wgs such as this, punters are nothing but 'commodities'............so i offer no apologies whatsoever in describing wgs of this ilk as providing extremely poor VFM.............and yet you'd still find this offensive ???

Good post Bill!

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The guys with an overbearing sense of self importance that tend to post about value for money and postulate about pro$$ies etc often are the ones that actually have not got a lot of money. They are in fact resentful about these uppity escorts being out of reach. Like spiteful bitter window lickers they have their noses pressed close to the screen and spout their drivel.

I think you have hit the nail firmly on the head. There must be some underlying resentment from these people and moreover a complete lack of respect for themselves let alone anybody else. I admire the assertive nature of many WG's who contribute to this forum, which is why I would instantly dismiss the notion that this is solely a place for Punters to share info. It is much more than that. it seems crazy that an excellent WG can be at the mercy of this type of person when it comes to writing a review.

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Pandora, do you think sometimes men say things as part of a fantasy scenario when in reality they would not say boo to a goose. Recently a man told me to 'suck that cock right down you dirty bitch' I duly obliged and sucked all two inches of it - right down :)

I am sure they do Sarah. It is all part of the service to play along. It is just the odd comment,(usually from the man who would not say boo to a goose), that throws you.

Bill, I agree that value for money is very important. I have it firmly implanted in my head that is a gentleman's choice to see ME and for that I am very grateful and do my very best to ensure that we both have a good time. My point is that in order to ensure you have a good time, it is sensible to make sure the lady is at ease. Stating baldly that they want their value for money is not the way to go. Like nails on a black board.

I will still ensure that they get VFM but I will note it down in my head that I do not want to see that person again.

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I have started to use PNET much more regularly than before and its been very helpful for me, but in the last few days and weeks it seems that posts by a couple of individuals (I am not going to mention any names) have been shocking. The attitudes shown to WGs and women in general has been disgusting. Dont get me wrong I do like a joke or two with male and female mates but some of the things said have been over the line.

So I just wondered do you think these are likely to be "trolls" or is this the attitude of some people nowadays? I know we shouldn't let a minority effect our judgement on a majority but I can see why some WGs prefer not see younger guys which ruins it for genuine guys like myself and many others on here.

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but what are the mods thoughts on these posters? And how many derogatory are they allowed before they get banned? If in fact they are genuine punters and not trolls, will WGs want to see people like that?

Taz

I think that as an experienced punter you should know that the ladies here are more than capable in dealing with it. I don't read all the posts but if a poster is being blatantly abusive then he is normally seen to swiftly. The punting industry attracts all sorts and it is not an exclusive gentlemen's club.

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it is not an exclusive gentlemen's club.

That should be the statement of the century! You are right. This is not an exclusive gentlemen's club. The ladies are right there in it and as such, some folks should change their attitude or they will never get the infinite punt they are simply dying for :)

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That should be the statement of the century! You are right. This is not an exclusive gentlemen's club. The ladies are right there in it and as such, some folks should change their attitude or they will never get the infinite punt they are simply dying for :)

You never know. A WG could have a fetish for bad attitude.

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You never know. A WG could have a fetish for bad attitude.

Or be a sucker for it!

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Pandora, do you think sometimes men say things as part of a fantasy scenario when in reality they would not say boo to a goose. Recently a man told me to 'suck that cock right down you dirty bitch' I duly obliged and sucked all two inches of it - right down :)

That's a good girl.

Two inches... He he. Shame on you.

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