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My First Hotel Outcall...very Very Very Very Very Very Annoyed

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Hi everyone,

I've been using PN for past 8/9 years mainly for FR's and in the past year or two lurking on this forum on/off (my old username was goldensun but I've not logged on for years and forgot my password)

Now, don't know who to ask for advice so I've decided to go on here. I arranged my first ever hotel outcall with someone on the other site. Lots of e-mails back and forth, agreed details (date, duration, services, etc.)

Booking agreed and hotel booked/paid. She said she would call me a couple of days before the booking.

Two days before the booking, not heard anything. The day before booking still nothing, the actual day..still nothing, in the end I waited all evening in the hotel, not even a txt.I have no internet access in the hotel so was expecting her call as she promised.

I 've now got on ** and sent her an-email which she replied saying she couldn't find my number. I thought come on, this is BS as I gave it her twice (via the booking system and I sent again by e-mail just in case)

She has mostly good feedback with only not many bad so I gave her benefit of the doubt. I did take down the number of an escort agency as contingency but that didn't work the number was engaged.

Thought about leaving negative feedback but the system says I've got no outstanding bookings.

Do I put it down to bad experience even though I'm not at fault. I'm just vvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeery annoyed right now..and wasted a lof of money on the hotel room and travel (plus time)

Thanks for reading, rant over (if you can call this a rant)

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Sorry to hear of your frustrating non-booking. Did you have her number?

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Suggest you change your username or this experience will haunt your future punts! As Lara asks, did you not have a number? No contact for two days before the booking? I would smell a rat!

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This experience is made worse because of your build up. Where was your hotel and was there really no backup contactable?

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Sorry to hear of your experience.

Unfortunately in this punting game you find that however well the girls describe themselves on websites or over the phone many are in fact amateurs when it comes to stuff like business, appointments or even keeping a diary. Some girls won't have any plans for 3 hours hence, let alone 3 days.

Your missed booking could be something as simple as a regular calling her for an appointment that same evening, someone calling her for an appointment that evening that was a lot nearer in distance travel-wise, a friend of hers inviting her out for drinks or another 20 or so similar scenarios.

I've had similar things happen to myself, regrettably it's part of punting sometimes. Good luck next time.

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If the shoe had been on the other foot, I would have booked a room with a late cancellation policy and having not heard from the person by the day before, despite trying to communicate with them, I would have cancelled the hotel booking and not travelled.

Communication is key with this for both of us and if one person breaks the link of communication all bets are off.

If it was a geniune mistake I would contemplate re-arranging, but as you say if you booked through the system she had your number and it is a lame excuse.

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Some girls won't have any plans for 3 hours hence, let alone 3 days.

I've had similar things happen to myself, regrettably it's part of punting sometimes. Good luck next time.

Same here. Not all the time-wasters are punters it seems.

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You should have let her book the room. This would have involved a degree of commitment on her part and enabled her to take other bookings at the same location. She is the service provider after all. As it is she faced no financial outlay and was probaly able to arrange an alternative booking whilst staying at home and with no travelling involved.

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You should have let her book the room. This would have involved a degree of commitment on her part and enabled her to take other bookings at the same location. She is the service provider after all. As it is she faced no financial outlay and was probaly able to arrange an alternative booking whilst staying at home and with no travelling involved.

I would not consider booking a room to see a client I had never seen before. It's all very well saying she can use the room to see other men, but most hotels do not allow access before 2/3pm and then it depends on what time the booking is with the gent in question and just how many hours do they have left to try and gain extra work. Is it an area that is well serviced already or one were you will be well recieved? It would also depend on the length of the booking and how expensive the hotel is.

This is a business after all. If you are going to lose out by travelling, expenses and loss of regular income (plus not using the apartment you already pay for) then who exactly are you taking all the risks for? Someone you have never met before who could end up being a timewaster? You might waste time and the expense of the hotel, but she stands to lose out on a lot more by having a no show.

Edited by kissxkate

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Hi everyone, I've been using PN for past 8/9 years mainly for FR's and in the past year or two lurking on this forum on/off (my old username was goldensun but I've not logged on for years and forgot my password) Now, don't know who to ask for advice so I've decided to go on here. I arranged my first ever hotel outcall with someone on the other site. Lots of e-mails back and forth, agreed details (date, duration, services, etc.) Booking agreed and hotel booked/paid. She said she would call me a couple of days before the booking. Two days before the booking, not heard anything. The day before booking still nothing, the actual day..still nothing, in the end I waited all evening in the hotel, not even a txt.I have no internet access in the hotel so was expecting her call as she promised. I 've now got on ** and sent her an-email which she replied saying she couldn't find my number. I thought come on, this is BS as I gave it her twice (via the booking system and I sent again by e-mail just in case) She has mostly good feedback with only not many bad so I gave her benefit of the doubt. I did take down the number of an escort agency as contingency but that didn't work the number was engaged. Thought about leaving negative feedback but the system says I've got no outstanding bookings. Do I put it down to bad experience even though I'm not at fault. I'm just vvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeery annoyed right now..and wasted a lof of money on the hotel room and travel (plus time) Thanks for reading, rant over (if you can call this a rant)

Sorry to hear about this. In future when you dont hear as agreed contact the WG, i only ring myself, no number no business from me and seek confirmation and again on the day, if you dont get her or hear back its always a bad sign in my experience. I stick to Incalls nowadays as its easy to walk if necessary so perhaps go with them in future so saving you paying out for a hotel.

Obviously i have no idea if the reason the WG gave you is true but she is at the very least not very professional, losing your number is careless in the extreme and i would view it like you as bullshit.

As to what to do, you could name and shame her on here which is what i would do, very sadly you cant do a FR unless money changed hands which lets SPs like her off the hook in my opinion so at least punters on here are aware or just leave it, thats your call. As to the purple site i advise you not to believe feedback unless you know the punter leaving it as its easy to manipulate and has more holes in it in terms of credibility than a string vest. I use the site and have for years but view all feedback as being made up with the WG having to show me to my satisfaction that she will offer the service i require, obviously not in any way full proof, nothing is but it works for me. :)

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Thanks for all the replies. It makes me feel welcome.

No she does not have her number displayed on the other site and she did not give me her number. At this point I smelt a little something but gave her benefit of the doubt as she says she is a professional...all rubbish marketing talk.. I never ask for numbers as most girls don't reply.

I'm still quite annoyed as I would have appreciated a quick call/txt to say 'sorry I can't make' and she would provide me the some numbers of alternatives (unlikely but I'd book her again if she did)

Any tips for next time to prevent this experience happening again.

I've never had an outcall so feel a little nervous.

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I would not consider booking a room to see a client I had never seen before. It's all very well saying she can use the room to see other men, but most hotels do not allow access before 2/3pm and then it depends on what time the booking is with the gent in question and just how many hours do they have left to try and gain extra work. Is it an area that is well serviced already or one were you will be well recieved? It would also depend on the length of the booking and how expensive the hotel is.

This is a business after all. If you are going to lose out by travelling, expenses and loss of regular income (plus not using the apartment you already pay for) then who exactly are you taking all the risks for? Someone you have never met before who could end up being a timewaster? You might waste time and the expense of the hotel, but she stands to lose out on a lot more by having a no show.

Kissxkate-

You may not want to but many WG's particularly on the "Other site" work out of hotels exclusively and many of their clients they may never have met before. Reality I am afraid. With regard to the OP's original post if the lady concerned did not want to do an outcall to a hotel she should have said before taking the booking.

Edited by Lestrade

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Kissxkate-

You may not want to but many WG's particularly on the "Other site" work out of hotels exclusively and many of their clients they may never have met before. Reality I am afraid. With regard to the OP's original post if the lady concerned did not want to do an outcall to a hotel she should have said before taking the booking.

Yes a lot of ladies do work from hotels, and not just ladies from the other site, indies do their tours in hotels usually or a regular day in a different town ets. There is a big difference between booking a hotel for the day and advertising in advance to get bookings and going along to a hotel, possibly a long way away for a one off booking with an unknown client. Just because you accept a booking for such o clock in such a town on such a date does not mean you have time that day to also take other bookings, it may be the only one of the day or in some ladies cases the only one of the week because of the number limit they have put on their bookings. If a guy wants a girl to travel to him for the time that suits him on the date that suits him then he needs to book the hotel, its wise though to have an agreement to confirm the appointment 24 hours before and then again on the day. That way at least if the guy cannot get hold of the girl he can cancel within the required time the room, and then at least not waste his time and petrol if she doesnt confirm with him again on the morning. The onus is on the client to call the girl to confirm never the other way around unless previously agreed as it goes against the grain and a general wg rule to call a client off the bat, could be sat their with his wife in the doctors surgery and put right on the spot if he answers the call and risk the booking being cancelled by the wg if he hangs up the call without answering.

Also the OP did say that this lady has a decent amount of good feedback so she must be usually fairly reliable, unfortunatley in this case she wasnt.

Edited by Chloe MKEscorts

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Yes a lot of ladies do work from hotels, and not just ladies from the other site, indies do their tours in hotels usually or a regular day in a different town ets. There is a big difference between booking a hotel for the day and advertising in advance to get bookings and going along to a hotel, possibly a long way away for a one off booking with an unknown client. Just because you accept a booking for such o clock in such a town on such a date does not mean you have time that day to also take other bookings, it may be the only one of the day or in some ladies cases the only one of the week because of the number limit they have put on their bookings. If a guy wants a girl to travel to him for the time that suits him on the date that suits him then he needs to book the hotel, its wise though to have an agreement to confirm the appointment 24 hours before and then again on the day. That way at least if the guy cannot get hold of the girl he can cancel within the required time the room, and then at least not waste his time and petrol if she doesnt confirm with him again on the morning. The onus is on the client to call the girl to confirm never the other way around unless previously agreed as it goes against the grain and a general wg rule to call a client off the bat, could be sat their with his wife in the doctors surgery and put right on the spot if he answers the call and risk the booking being cancelled by the wg if he hangs up the call without answering.

Also the OP did say that this lady has a decent amount of good feedback so she must be usually fairly reliable, unfortunatley in this case she wasnt.

Thank you Chloe, you explained what I was trying to say a lot more eloquently.

I do tour extensively and as such do work from hotels and more often apartments when I do. As Chloe says, this is a different kettle of fish. I can extensively advertise in advance and I am in full control of my time and would not go anywhere just for one day unless I was trying it out or enroute to somewhere else, as it is not time enough to make any real money. I also do a lot of research as to where to go, as some areas I am likely to do better in than others.

The risk factor is too high.

I also don't really understand the OP went ahead with the booking after having no response from the WG. Surely that should have sent you alarm bells and I would have definitely cancelled the hotel having tried to contact her in the morning with no response. Again, as Chloe says, it is not normal for a WG to contact the client unless pre-arranged. This is another thing that I would not do and even with an agreement it would be either text or email. However, with the shoe on the other foot I would expect a confirmation call the morning of the arrangement before I set out for the booking. I would also want the hotel room number before setting out and I have been known to ask for the clients name so I can check at reception that they have booked in, as some men like to play silly games.

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I did send her a final e-mail to confirm before I left home and she replied saying she would call 2 days in advance. I already paid for the hotel in advance and it's no refund policy for special advance rate.

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I would think that a name and shame on here is in order, if only to satisfy the OP's frustration.

I would never book a hotel room to meet someone new to me. I feel that would be too risky. I know it's easy to say after the event. If you have met her before you would have a degree of confidence.

Is there anything in the lady's profile that indicates that she usually "works from home" or expects guys to book hotel rooms?

Why not choose to meet at her place?

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Yes a lot of ladies do work from hotels, and not just ladies from the other site, indies do their tours in hotels usually or a regular day in a different town ets. There is a big difference between booking a hotel for the day and advertising in advance to get bookings and going along to a hotel, possibly a long way away for a one off booking with an unknown client. Just because you accept a booking for such o clock in such a town on such a date does not mean you have time that day to also take other bookings, it may be the only one of the day or in some ladies cases the only one of the week because of the number limit they have put on their bookings. If a guy wants a girl to travel to him for the time that suits him on the date that suits him then he needs to book the hotel, its wise though to have an agreement to confirm the appointment 24 hours before and then again on the day. That way at least if the guy cannot get hold of the girl he can cancel within the required time the room, and then at least not waste his time and petrol if she doesnt confirm with him again on the morning. The onus is on the client to call the girl to confirm never the other way around unless previously agreed as it goes against the grain and a general wg rule to call a client off the bat, could be sat their with his wife in the doctors surgery and put right on the spot if he answers the call and risk the booking being cancelled by the wg if he hangs up the call without answering.

Also the OP did say that this lady has a decent amount of good feedback so she must be usually fairly reliable, unfortunatley in this case she wasnt.

Good advice and i certainly agree the onus is on the punter to confirm, in fact it never fails to amaze me that a punter wouldnt want to seek confirmation, i do every time and i usually punt same day so would of arranged to ring if a newbie to me just before leaving my place for hers, if i dont get that confirmation i dont leave till i have it. With a regular a text is sufficient. :)

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I would think that a name and shame on here is in order, if only to satisfy the OP's frustration.

I would never book a hotel room to meet someone new to me. I feel that would be too risky. I know it's easy to say after the event. If you have met her before you would have a degree of confidence.

Is there anything in the lady's profile that indicates that she usually "works from home" or expects guys to book hotel rooms?

Why not choose to meet at her place?

I think she offers incalls at hotels and outcalls to hotels only, it's not that clear on her profile.

She has offered to rebook? Shall I?, in order to give negative feedback for wasting my time/money. I want to vent my fustration.

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Thanks for all the replies. It makes me feel welcome.

No she does not have her number displayed on the other site and she did not give me her number. At this point I smelt a little something but gave her benefit of the doubt as she says she is a professional...all rubbish marketing talk.. I never ask for numbers as most girls don't reply.

I'm still quite annoyed as I would have appreciated a quick call/txt to say 'sorry I can't make' and she would provide me the some numbers of alternatives (unlikely but I'd book her again if she did)

Any tips for next time to prevent this experience happening again.

I've never had an outcall so feel a little nervous.

Stick with Incalls as i said and if no phone number forthcoming go elsewhere. I require a phone chat with every WG before i make a booking, confirm on the day as a minimum and i confirm again before leaving mine for hers. Never trust a stranger to be honest so dont pay out a penny till you have met the WG and are happy to go ahead with the punt. Never hesitate to walk if your not happy. Dont put your faith in the purple sites feedback system, it doesnt stand up to scrutiny and the owners have no interest in helping punters, just making profits.

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It is people like this who give the rest of us wg's a bad name! Sorry that you had a negative experience.

T x

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I think she offers incalls at hotels and outcalls to hotels only, it's not that clear on her profile.

She has offered to rebook? Shall I?, in order to give negative feedback for wasting my time/money. I want to vent my fustration.

That would be wrong, as you are then being underhand and don't know the full circumstances. I would cut your losses and put it down to experience. It is a shame you did not use the forum to seek advice on the protocol before taking the plunge and then you would have been better prepared with what to do.

In my opinion confirming several days in advance is not confirming. Communicating perhaps 24 hours in advance with a final confirmation on the day before traveling is more reasonable.

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Here's the her reply which I have anonymized:

MarkBookingOrEmailRead.asp?T=Email&I=59093161 In 25/11/2011 18:49:18 25/11/2011 18:49:37 Hi!

I'm so glad you emailed me as I couldn't find you anywhere on here to reply, and was unable to find your number!!

I dont like timewaster myself and I am very sorry to let you down yesterday...

I'm available tommorow till 9pm if you'd like to book again

XXX x

X 1px.gifMarkBookingOrEmailRead.asp?T=Email&I=59092887 Out 25/11/2011 18:43:48 25/11/2011 18:44:50 Hi,

You replied to me on 19/11/11 (as below) and we agreed a booking for 24th Nov abour 7:30pm, I gave you my number/location, I arranged the hotel for us and I was in the hotel waiting for you all evening. I see you've logged on yesterday.

What happened, Can we book again?

Hi,

I'll be getting at XXXXXX T/S for around 19:15 and I'll be going straight to the hotel...

If youve booked a double, pop my name down on the reservation to avoid anything x x

I'll be dressed in business attire, see you in the bar

Love XXXX

I will call you couple days before hand

Speak soon

Xx

She has now offered to rebook and tells me that she now has to pay her driver.

Is it ok to name and shame.. what if she sees this thread...

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Bottom line is to never make a booking without a contact number. After all, most girls won't book without the punter's mobile number. Also, never book without speaking with the girl.

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I've ask for her number but won't give it me. It makes sense to swap numbers in case one party cannot make it.

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Good advice and i certainly agree the onus is on the punter to confirm, in fact it never fails to amaze me that a punter wouldnt want to seek confirmation, i do every time and i usually punt same day so would of arranged to ring if a newbie to me just before leaving my place for hers, if i dont get that confirmation i dont leave till i have it. With a regular a text is sufficient. :)

I come across guys who want to set up bookings by email exclusively, and do not see the need for a phone call. Once or twice I've even had the comment "Look I'll be there". In my opinion it's in the guy's interests to establish phone contact, and I always email anyone who sends a booking request asking them to phone at a set time (and not the other way around as suggested by the booking system).

Vocal phone contact makes everything that much more definite as it takes that bit more effort- plus you both then know you have the correct number and can communicate when the day arrives. Surprising how many guys have also emailed last minute saying they have lost my number, or even who ring/text the wrong girl on the day.

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