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Message to Harriet Harman from the ladies of Punternet.

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Harriet its blatantly obvious that either you or someone close to you has been reading/monitoring this site and are using it as a way of diverting attention away from Mr Brown and his many blunders. So as you are getting to read this site, we ladies here at Punternet would like to convey a message to you.

You said!! We know that prostitution is not work - it's exploitation of women by men - often women who have mental health problems or drug or alcohol addiction. So we're introducing a new criminal offence of having sex with a prostitute who's being controlled by a pimp. In the many years I have been working I have NEVER been offered or taken drugs so your wrong there.

You also stated recently in a well known newspaper that the women here are pimped. That is an absolutely ludicrous lie and one I personally would like to see you retract asap please.

The ladies (and note I use the word ladies as thats exactly what we are) that use this site, use it because its by far one of the most responsible escort websites on the internet today. Its long been the first port of call for many girls who find not only the advertising features, but also the warning boards and support from the forum an invaluable source.

Punternet helps keep us safe and dispite what you say about being pimped, its actually the reverse of that and means we can work without the threat of pimps hanging over us.

I personally take great exception at being told that I'm pimped simply because I have used the services of this website. I am not pimped nor have ever been pimped, nor do I know of any other girl that uses this site that is pimped either.

Girls please add your name to this thread if you are a truly independant escort, its time this woman realised that we are empowered women, not the drug addled, pimped dregs of society that she is running around painting us to be.

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well said!!!

No one has ever told me what to do !! I am an independant woman with a mind of my own and it is my choice to do what i do .

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All the ladies at the X-lounge are british subjects, unpimped, happy and comfortable in their work and pay their taxes which helps to buy the kit-kats, fishponds and porn movies...

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The bit HH seems to be missing, is that sites like PunterNet ENABLE women who want to advertise the selling of sexual services independently, WITHOUT the need for a pimp.

The view she seems to hold of us ladies is quite out of date and in no way acknowledges the great majority who work quite happily behind closed doors, marketing ourselves as a business quite willingly, and quite specifically to attract the kind of clients we WISH to see.

Do she not realise, the internet and the advertising sites such as this gives has enabled us independent ladies to be more selective on who we see, the phone rings enough that we don't HAVE to see every man who calls.

The vast majority of independent working ladies are un-found on street corners, the internet has ENABLED us to work alone, privately and LEGALLY, relatively easily and with our own precautions in place, safely.

WHY ARE WE NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED IN YOUR MISSION HH. DO WE NOT FIT INTO THE UGLY PICTURE YOU PAINT ?

You start on a mission to close PunterNet and other such websites down, and then what ?

The ladies who are able to advertise themselves freely on sites such as this, in an industry that has moved on beyond your thinking HH, where would you like us to go for the GENTLEMEN who visit us to find us easily ?

No independent lady would have the time to earn her living as well as advertise herself if websites such as this weren't available.

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I have been offered drugs by a client, from someone who wanted me to extend my workday - the same one who when I said I wouldn't see him he threatened to post a bad report.

However this site is so supportive I've not had to worry about it!

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I think it is fair to say that quite likely the higher percentile of Ladies on this site are working for a 'pimp' of sorts. That being the tax man....? Where do some of those taxes go ? Ah yes, payment of wages to govt.

Personally speaking I would shy from calling him this as it is really more a case of those Ladies doing the right thing by law and society and him doing his bit too of course.

It's really no good trying to tar everybody with the same brush, lest some of it splash back onto oneself.

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Harriet its blatantly obvious that either you or someone close to you has been reading/monitoring this site and are using it as a way of diverting attention away from Mr Brown and his many blunders. So as you are getting to read this site, we ladies here at Punternet would like to convey a message to you.

You said!! We know that prostitution is not work - it's exploitation of women by men - often women who have mental health problems or drug or alcohol addiction. So we're introducing a new criminal offence of having sex with a prostitute who's being controlled by a pimp. In the many years I have been working I have NEVER been offered or taken drugs so your wrong there.

You also stated recently in a well known newspaper that the women here are pimped. That is an absolutely ludicrous lie and one I personally would like to see you retract asap please.

The ladies (and note I use the word ladies as thats exactly what we are) that use this site, use it because its by far one of the most responsible escort websites on the internet today. Its long been the first port of call for many girls who find not only the advertising features, but also the warning boards and support from the forum an invaluable source.

Punternet helps keep us safe and dispite what you say about being pimped, its actually the reverse of that and means we can work without the threat of pimps hanging over us.

I personally take great exception at being told that I'm pimped simply because I have used the services of this website. I am not pimped nor have ever been pimped, nor do I know of any other girl that uses this site that is pimped either.

Girls please add your name to this thread if you are a truly independant escort, its time this woman realised that we are empowered women, not the drug addled, pimped dregs of society that she is running around painting us to be.

thankyou wellnhappy. I add my name in total agreement.

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As usual these polititians who are trying to legislate and 'clean up' the sex industry have got it completly wrong and the only thing they end up doing is to make life harder for the women in the industry. Making prostitution illegal will only drive it underground thus making all of us independent ladies vulnerable. Sex trafficking and independent ladies are separate issues.:mad:

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well said!!!

No one has ever told me what to do !! I am an independant woman with a mind of my own and it is my choice to do what i do .

It is well said, the sad thing being is that that's she'll take absolutely no notice of it whatsoever.

I think the technical term is 'gross ignorance'; couple that with an over abundance of arrogance and you get a politician.

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I have said it before and I will say it again, PN actually enables women to work without pimps because we can make ourselves available without having to use an agency or club or whatever.

We control where and when we work and we control who we agree to see. Without PN and sites like it we would have to use systems and environments that lend themselves to abuse and exploitation.

I don't do drugs, I do drink too much champagne, I do buy too many expensive shoes. I exchange sex for money and usually enjoy it. I am not British, but I am not stupid nor am I weak.

Harriet Harman is taking advantage of our moral marginalisation to score cheap political points by using our bodies for her agenda, now that is what I call "pimping".

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You can add my name to this message Wellnhappy, I feel totally insulted by her remarks.

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I said you wouldnt be happy but they ignored me your Majesty.

Come and spend a week with me and learn a little about the light side of prostitution. Its not all trafficking drugs pimps and raincoats.

As a politician you have a duty to see all sides and consider every point of veiw and not impose your victoriana on everybody. For a poitician you are incredibly short sighted. Open you mind to modernity.

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I am not an independent escort. But i am an independent woman who chooses to escort.

Everyday i wake up and decide what to do.

Nobody tells me to do it; i have no debts; no drug addiction; no child to support. I do not have to do this, i choose to because i enjoy it.

The majority of people find the idea of having sex with a traffiked woman repugnant or indeed any woman that didnt want to be there. It is.

Theres a very small minority that dont agree with that statement but i doubt very much youll find them here.

You are indeed very short sighted

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I haven't used this service or in fact an escort...(still an 'escort virgin'! LOL!) but the statement of the Minister was just so outrageous, I had to join the site, make a response and support the webmaster and the women who make personal choices. To have a Minister of the state denigrate the ladies who freely choose this work, is just offensive and on so many levels as the Minister restricting the websites freedom of speech. Even to a non escort using male.

Bravo ladies...as we Americans would say-'kick some ass!'.

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I would like to add my support to this thread too. I am a completely independent escort. I am not now, nor have I ever been pimped. I do not labour under any addictions, I am a university student and also a bloody good mother. Not quite the stereotypical WG that you had in mind Ms Harman, but there we are.

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Ms Harman, thank you for your concern, but I'm not trafficked, pimped, desperate, drug/alcohol dependent, or mentally unstable.

I, like many ladies on this board, am very happy to be an independent British escort, so please offer your 'sympathies' to those who really need it. Thank you.

Yours sincerely,

Jayna.

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All the ladies at the X-lounge are british subjects, unpimped, happy and comfortable in their work and pay their taxes which helps to buy the kit-kats, fishponds and porn movies...

Don't forget the duck house.....

I am free willed, not pimped and have never taken or been offered drugs in my long life. I work and support myself instead of existing on a state pension. It is my life and I have chosen to do this

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I have beem a lurker on this board for a while now but have worked both as an escort and more currently in parlours.

My first comment is HH you are a joke.

Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

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Dear Harriet (can I call you Harriet?)

I am more than able to take control of my own life. I have done so for the last 40 years.... soon to be 41.

Maybe if you actually spent a day in the life of an independent Working Girl, who does not drink or take drugs and has bought up a well balanced teenager. A woman who is proud of herself and has never sponged off society.... and never taken what does not belong to them.... then you may have different thoughts about real life than hiding behind a cabinet that really needs to sort out their own lives first.

I ask you a question.... Do you really know what the men you speak to daily... do in thier spare time and what they do with their public spending?

Maybe you could ask them.... Just out of interest.

Best wishes,

Louisa

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I am seriously starting to think this woman would love to be a wg. Why else does she have it in for us? And for the record, i'm not a drug addict and have never had a pimp! How very dare you! Fair enough to go after sex traffickers but thats the minority! You'll never be able to stop the oldest trade, just make it more dangerous for us ladies and our gentlemen. Does anyone other than her really think this is a big issue compared to what else is going on in this country? Its a joke...

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Unfortunately Ms Harman has closed her mind to the possibility that any of us can be trusted to look after ourselves and our morals. We are not to be allowed to decide whether we are happy or not, because we are too feeble-minded to get it right.

I would welcome Ms Harman's views on this:

Yesterday evening I went for dinner with an entertaining, educated and attentive man. After dinner we spent two hours in his hotel room where much fun, frolicking and laughter ensued. I had more fun and gained more sexual satisfaction than I have done in the past with any boyfriend, and when we parted I was able to drive home with a smile on my face for both the reasons stated, and for the knowledge that the contents of the envelope would cover half of our monthly bills.

Because I spent those three hours enjoying myself and earning that cash, tomorrow I can have a lazy day. I can clean my home, bake something for my kids, be there when they get home from school and work and spent quality time with them. Because I am therefore a constant presence in their lives, rather than the parent I used to be, always rushing in and out; I can make sure that they are growing up into decent, caring, respectable individuals.

Would Ms Harman prefer that I worked 39 hours in a 'respectable' job to earn that same cash? That either I had no time or no energy or both to parent my children? That they fend for themselves, eat junk food, wander freely the streets with no-one to check them? And if she would, could she explain to me why?

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Yesterday evening I went for dinner with an entertaining, educated and attentive man. After dinner we spent two hours in his hotel room where much fun, frolicking and laughter ensued. I had more fun and gained more sexual satisfaction than I have done in the past with any boyfriend, and when we parted I was able to drive home with a smile on my face for both the reasons stated, and for the knowledge that the contents of the envelope would cover half of our monthly bills.

Because I spent those three hours enjoying myself and earning that cash, tomorrow I can have a lazy day. I can clean my home, bake something for my kids, be there when they get home from school and work and spent quality time with them. Because I am therefore a constant presence in their lives, rather than the parent I used to be, always rushing in and out; I can make sure that they are growing up into decent, caring, respectable individuals.

Without wanting to second guess Ms Harman, or, heaven forfend, put words into her mouth; a more comprehensive and clear-cut case of exploitation I have yet to read, you have my most heartfelt commiserations and sympathy Ma'am.

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Without wanting to second guess Ms Harman, or, heaven forfend, put words into her mouth; a more comprehensive and clear-cut case of exploitation I have yet to read, you have my most heartfelt commiserations and sympathy Ma'am.

Sas, it's too late at night for me to be clever.

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never had a drug in my life not even a joint as i dont smoke love my job had a problem today with my dog and a lovely client came with me for support to the vet only see nice men my choice annaxx

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Dear Harriet,

Let me introduce myself... I'm Dollymopp! A Victorian word for a whore. Love the irony..?

I won't do political rant, I will just say what I feel, woman to woman.

I am an educated Scots woman of 43 yrs, drug and pimp free, and I chose this 'dreadful underground life', yes I did. CHOOSE. I had a good childhood, did very well at school, went to Uni etc.

Where did it all go..right..? In about 1990.

Next year is my 20yr anniversary of 'dollymopping', as I like to call it, for fun.

A few years ago, I joined up to this site right here, PunterNet, by choice, and it brings me the most delightful joy to be part of it. My callers from here, are pretty damn wonderful. Most of them don't post writ in public forums, here or anywhere else. Most men don't. They simply...read/research. And then, mail/call.

..I have more experience of men than you, Harriet? My callers are Your Colleagues, many of them for sure. The callers also include doctors, barristers, judges, lawyers, city profs, et al. They agree with me, and we discuss You, at length.

That must seem odd to you, as you have never met anyone like me?

If you could see my eyes up close Harriet, if you could see...my eyes.

Dare you? My number is easy to find.

No one forced me to be here, I actually went looking for it, and not by neccessity at all. You can't understand, but maybe if you spoke to the

1000's of women like me, maybe you would.

I won't go quietly and let you ruin my life with your one sided half proof stories, Harriet. I know you mean well, but you insist on kangaroo courts, and I can't allow the injustice of this. It's utterly medieval.

I had many avenues to choose from, and I chose this. I'm also paid handsomely in other professional sectors, more befitting to your acceptable rules. I did not fail there, so as to choose 'this' to 'tide me over' till 'something better' came along. And neither do many other women.

I am a PROSTITUTE, amongst other things, and I am very happy to be one. It's so honest, pure and honourable, a gift. To be so intimate and share myself, my earthly mind and body, for the happiness of others, it makes me happy. I'm even happier that I am compensated for the time too! It's a very special feeling, when you know that you can do this properly. I knew that it was a calling, a vocation, if you will. I do have real orgasms. Bonus!

Why charge then? Well, we all need to pay to live, (what's your weekly spend..?) and who knows how much freedom time I have given just for that joy, and I do. I have the freedom to give freedom, and I will fight you for my human rights, along side 1000's of other free thinking women.

You think we are brainwashed by some kind of 'Matrix', but as you have not experienced both sides of the coin, and we have, how can you tell? Maybe you are living in the Matrix...?

I don't know what kind of woman oppresses other women's educated choices.

In the past, my history based education helped me to accept many types of human nature, and thus, I feel that I help some make the transition, to become the men that they want to be. It can be pretty profound sometimes, and when you know you have made progress, the reward..well, Harriet, you can't ever know how that feels.

I'm not grand, by all means, but I knew in my heart, that I had the right mindset to be here, and for the right reasons. I smile in the mirror, I know myself. It feels good.

The things you single out here for your 'proof' is far flung from the 5,000+ men and boys that I have met 'this' way.

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