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Female Ejaculation

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Just a thread about girls 'squirting'.

Is it a talent or can you learn to do it? Is it something that you are just born to do?

I've always been very curious as many men find it an extreme turn on.

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I believe that Lotty12345 of Kingston is a self titled "gusher", which according to some members on here is something definitely to be experienced. :)

Is this something that you are blessed with Jennifer?

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You can learn to do it. First you need someone who knows how to stimulate your G-Spot. then when you feel you are going to cum and also feel the need to pee don't tighten your PC muscle to stop the "pee" but bear down rather relaxing the muscle and you should squirt. Always pee just before trying this so you don't accidentally actually pee. Some women do find it happens automatically. The orgasm is very different for you too.

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Hmmm. I wouldn't call myself a 'Gusher' to be honest and I don't ejaculate. But a know guys love it when girls gush, squirt or spray so just wondered if it was something you could learn haha.

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So then how do escorts 'cum' if they are not sexual stimulated to orgasm by the client? I mean, not all clients make me cum.

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Squirting is something that can be taught. However, more than likely, the problem will be that you'll then only be able to squirt if you do the routine in the correct order which takes away a lot of the spontaniety of sex.

I had an ex (non working girl) who could gush just about any way, oral, penetration, masturbation and it was an extreme turn on to watch her cum. I often still think about it.

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i have seen 3 ladies that squirt and all liked different ways to make them squirt. all three were fantastic and a lady squirting into my mouth is a mega turn on for me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Just a thread about girls 'squirting'. Is it a talent or can you learn to do it? Is it something that you are just born to do? I've always been very curious as many men find it an extreme turn on.

Medically there is no universal agreement what squirting is or what it is that is squirted. I once had a WG squirt like a hosepipe all over the bed, walls and furniture causing a right mess. Fortunately it hasnt happened since with a small squirt being the most i have seen, i dont want anymore than that myself. So i dont find it an extreme turn-on in person but dont mind seeing it in porn.

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I had a gf who squirted, and after every fuck we'd have to change the bedding. As it was a long term relationship we did it bareback, it was a lovely feeling when she came with me in her bareback, oh the warmth of that sudden gush all over my engorged penis

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Was discussed many times before, and my dilettante take on it.

1 You can not learn/train yourself to do it. Very few women born with such "talent", or rather they "wired" that way. Female ejaculation comes from the Scene gland, and such only can accommodate maximum of 1-2 teaspoons amount of liquid, which is just enough for a little squirt, which comes from the urinal opening, not from vagina. Anything more then that, it will be urine, or combination of both, especially when she goes like "hose pipe". (as Smiths said above). She also can slowly gush, but then again..its a very tiny amount, and definitely not enough to get "sheets soaked", more like a very small wet patch on the bedding. Very difficult to achieve without applying certain pressure to G spot (which only a small number of women have, but no idea about percentages, and doubt anybody can estimate it based on various contradicting research)

2 General vaginal gushing: Not an ejaculation from urethra, but of course can be in the same time. Its just a general vaginal lubrication, but can be lot of it! Doubt that many men look close to see from which "hole" it comes from.

In that case: no any traces of urine present, and can be in a vast abundance. (till the point to soak sheets). Nothing to do with orgasm, just a copious amount of fanny juice. It comes from the vaginal walls and Bartholin glands. Basically its a form of blood plasma, bit sweet, metallic in taste with a a bit of flavor of mackerel or defrosted panagasius flavor. Or so, I've been told, lol. Not about myself, I hasten to add. I am more of the dried cappelin, mixed with dry apricots. (that what I was told, and it was a joke

!). Somebody, stop me please now! :-)

3 Usually when female be able to ejaculate happens after they give birth,or losing control of pelvic muscles with age. I am not saying that older women tend more piss themselves then ejaculate. its of course that they could gain an experience how to control, or rather not to, theirs pleasure. (TBH honest that is a lot of bullshit).

Jenny, I know most of the girls cheat when some clients ask them to ejaculate. They drink a lot of liquids before, then they going to the bathroom claiming that they need to empty the bladder, so client will think they really ejaculate and not pissing. If the client not capable to to employ his tongues and fingers in the precise right spot, they do it themselves. (ie: put pressure on the bladder). Then they basically spurt a bit piss on him, but pretend that they ejaculated. Fresh and vastly water diluted urine (especially if you consumed some pineapple juice, melon, pears prior) hardly have any taste ot colour. They never can tell. ;-)

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So then how do escorts 'cum' if they are not sexual stimulated to orgasm by the client? I mean, not all clients make me cum.

Unless you are cheating like Xenia explained you do have to cum in order to squirt. At first you may find it difficult to cum from G-Spot stimulation alone (depends on you) so I then use an eroscillator or other clit vibe in combination with 2 finger G-Spot stimulation adding the vibe after the vagina has started to tent and the fingers have been rubbing the G-Spot for some time.You do need to be well aroused before attempting to squirt. You need to use a focused clit vibe not a magic wand.

See New Scientist 30 May 2009 page 31 for research on female ejaculation fluid. Its not pee.

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Not sure if this is allowed or will be too long, but here's something I wrote on the subject a while ago:

There seem to be a lot of myths and confusion about female ejaculation or squirting as it is often referred to. I had no idea such a thing existed until a few years ago- It was never something anyone talked about and I think I discovered it through porn. Even then I thought that it was faked and women couldn't actually do it.

Then after a period in the sexual wilderness (I was married to a dickhead whose idea of foreplay was telling me to ‘make yourself ready' which meant taking my knickers off) I started to experiment alone. Obviously masturbation has been part of my life for as long I remember, but lately had been nothing more than a quick finger shuffle under the bedclothes before said didkhead was in bed.

When he was out of the country I went back to exploring my own sexuality a bit further (read into that what you will). Armed with a new vibe in hand, some filthy fantasies in my head and plenty of time to play I started to become a lot wetter than I ever had before. Talking to a dear male friend of mine I discovered he had a bit of an obsession with squirting women and talking to him got me to thinking whether it was something I could learn to do! There was certainly a lot of fluid going on down there and whilst it was more like gushing than squirting I wondered if I had the potential.

A female friend I stayed with for a while confessed to me one night that she squirted most times she had sex. It came naturally to her and without special stimulation to get there so I felt more assured this wasn’t just a myth created by porn and got me wondering more about it.

So, what is it exactly? There is a lot conflicting information out there which doesn't help, but I think I've figured out the most up to date and most likely information. There's a lot of crap too, outdated medical info and websites only interested in selling you a DVD! The scientific research however, seems to point towards it being something all women can do but very few actually do and those that can will do it to different degrees and regularity.

A little History

Billed as a new phenomenon, or something that women *have* to learn how to do on most websites, further reading indicates this is not the case at all.

The Kama Sutra mentions and celebrates female ejaculation and many Indian temples including Khajuraho (Madhya Pradesh), Konark Sun Temple (Orissa) and Vijayanagara temples (Karnataka) have carved images depicting female ejaculation.

Chinese sex handbooks, such as Secret Methods of the Plain Girl by Su Nu Ching (Sui Dynasty 590–618 AD), also describe ejaculation "Copious emissions from her inner heart begin to exude outward" which is a nice way of putting it I think!

Greek and Roman writers debated about female ejaculation- not whether it existed or not- that was a given but whether the fluids were progenitive (contributed towards procreation) and were part of a woman’s fertility. Aristotle (384–322 BC) did not believe that the fluids were progenitive and in the Generation of Animals, argues that the function of the fluid is pleasure, not procreation.

On the other hand Hippocrates (460–370 BC) and Galen (129–200 AD) stated that female ejaculation served the same purpose as male semen. Hippocrates stated "if the ejaculate of the man runs together directly with that from the woman, she will conceive".

So, no debate on the existence of female ejaculation! Of course we know now that female vaginal fluid serves no purpose in making babies.

Fast forward to 17th century now, it appears no article on female ejaculation can pass without mention to The Dutch anatomist Regnier de Graaf, wrote an influential treatise on the reproductive organs Concerning the Generative Organs of Women. He identified the source of female ejaculation as the glandular structures and ducts surrounding the urethra. De Graaf referred to an erogenous zone in the vagina that he linked with the male prostate. Later this zone was rediscovered by the German gynecologist Ernst Grafenberg-and is now known as the g-spot after him. More on that later.

Despite de Graaf’s observations, modern Western medicine did not fully accept the concept of a "female prostate" until 2001 when the Federative Committee on Anatomical Terminology agreed to use this term in their next edition of Histology Terminology.

We don’t want to dwell on the 19th century too long as Freud and his ilk were busy writing about feminine hysteria, the dangers of masturbation and that … ‘an abnormal secretion of the mucous membrane of the vagina is looked upon as source of disgust”.

It wasn’t all negative though, Almeda Sperry writing to her lover Emma Goldman in 1918 referred to the "rhythmic spurt of your love juices" and anatomical knowledge was coming on in leaps and bounds.

Alexander Skene's description of para-urethral or periurethral glands (glands around the urethra) in 1880, was moving us in the right direction towards explaining female ejaculation and are now commonly referred to as the Skene's glands. It’s generally thought that these glands are one source of the fluids in the ejaculate.

However, things hadn’t moved on that much into the 20th century. Feminist writer Sheila Jeffreys (1985) was dismissive of female ejaculation, claiming it as a figment of male fantasy and psychiatrist Helen Singer Kaplan stated in 1983 that “Female ejaculation (as distinct from female urination during orgasm) has never been scientifically substantiated and is highly questionable, to say the least.”

So, what is female ejaculation?

There hasn't been a great deal of research on female ejaculation, mainly because scientific funding tends to go towards financing serious medical conditions. However, there finally seems to be a general agreement in the medical world about the sources of female ejaculation. It's just a matter of ignoring the out of date stuff!

Firstly, let’s cover ‘usual’ vaginal lubrication. This starts at the very earliest stage of arousal in a woman and can occur through mental or visual arousal, not just the physical. This is where it differs from the liquid produced during ejaculation which takes a little more work.

The great vestibular glands (also known as the Bartholin’s glands) found on the edge of the hymen and labia minora (your inner flaps!). These glands secrete a small amount of thin mucus lubricant which aids in the lubrication of the vagina. Alongside this, most of the "wetness" of female sexual arousal actually comes through the vaginal walls from the tissues which lie directly beneath them. This liquid permeates the membranes as small droplets which join one another quite quickly, forming a smooth coating of the vaginal walls. These juices play an essential part in ensuring the vagina is ready to be penetrated by a penis. I’m sure many of you ladies can contest how uncomfortable it is to be entered before ready!

How Female Ejaculation works

There have always been scientific and social writings that explain female ejaculation away by claiming it is urine and many women may have assumed they had wet themselves when it has happened to them. This is one reason why female ejaculation has been a taboo for so long. No one wants to admit they pissed all over their lover, oh hang on actually…Joking aside, you see my point about embarrassment.

Whilst there may be traces of urine in female ejaculate due to its location, researchers have concluded that it contains some chemical ingredients similar to those produced by the male prostate - notably PSA (prostate-specific antigen). It is also said to contain two sugars: glucose and fructose. Since 2000, an increasing number of researchers have suggested the liquid may come from Skene's glands. These are tiny secretory structures which lie around the female urethra (the urinary pipe). Basically, the liquid is pretty much the same as male ejaculation minus the sperm.

Not every woman can easily ejaculate, In my reading I have found those who are adamant that all women can tend to be flogging a DVD,a seminar, book or trying to get you to sign up (i.e. pay) for the information on how to. In Masters and Johnson's famous lab experiments with over 400 women, they did not record anyone who ejaculated at climax. I did have some other stats on how many women claim to ejaculate, but I can't find the webpage now. sorry. In a nutshell not many- I think various findings put it at between 5% to 20% of women.

I think it’s probably best to conclude that most women probably can but every woman have different physical make up in the same way that some men have different size penises or that some women have more sensitive nipples than others. Added to that weak pelvic floor muscles or the inability to properly relax will play a part in it. I do agree with most writers on this topic that It does takes practice to perfect this trick and I think on your own is a good place to start! Even with a close partner you may not truely relax enough.

So whilst the internet seems tell us all women can do it, medical knowledge tells us all (healthy, normal) women have the right parts it seems not many women actually do it. In my experience many of my clients haven’t seen gushing before, or at least not very often, maybe in only one previous partner.

How to do it

So, what do you need to know? Well- The female prostate as first discovered by our friend de Graaf and then further clarified by Grafenberg is known as the g-spot. Even the existence of this has been debated... My personal feelings (and one pretty much proven by the science guys) are is that it’s there, but produces a different feeling when stimulated in different women. Some women will explode with happiness at the merest touch, others will find it uncomfortable to be touched and others will require more time. So, as the G-spot is stimulated the surrounding tissue slowly fills with ejaculate from the prostate gland. As a woman orgasms (although I'm debating the orgasm bit), contractions of the pelvic muscle cause the fluid to “squirt” forcefully through the urethra. Fluid volume (and G-spot size) varies in amount from woman to woman.

Just to confuse the issue some writers refer to this area as the urethral sponge. So, call it what you will, the important thing is to start the search when you are (or your woman is) already turned on.

Insert your fingers or dildo, aiming for the front wall (the side with your tummy button!) of the vagina. Stroke this area with a "come hither" motion. If you use your fingers, you'll feel the difference in texture between this area, which is rough, and the rest of the vaginal walls, which are smooth. It has also been described as bean shape, the size of a quarter (however big that it!?!) or as spongy.

Personally, I know where mine is but just pressing on it does absolutely nothing for me. These days gushing just kind of happens! I don’t (or my partner doesn’t) have to search for it! My personal routine may not work for another woman, which is another reason why I think these how to.. guides and seminars are mainly bollocks and pointless to pay for. There's plenty of free stuff and it's a bit trial and error anyway.

I’m convinced most the battle is mentally relaxing, not thinking you’re going to pee and lots and lots of stimulation in that general area as well as lots of practice (there are worse things to do with your time!) . Over the last year I can start getting pretty wet within minutes, the more hardcore gushing takes longer and of course it happens more quickly if I do it myself! It is also quicker if I’m already pretty turned on to start with!

Whilst researching this article I came across this answer in response to the question: ‘Can all women squirt?’ on Yahoo answers- I can't and I have never seen it. But I must admit, that has got to be the most disgusting thing in the world. If I were to do that, I would move to a foreign country and live in a cave for the rest of my life. Thank you and have a nice day.

Okaaaay! Each to their own opinion, but a little dramatic!

Despite Niagara Falls type gushing I still hadn’t figured out how to make the liquid squirt any distance. I have kind of learnt how to expel the gushing faster (it’s the pelvis muscles that cause the ejaculation apparently) so by almost pushing like you would do if you wanted to wee harder (the opposite way of using the muscles you use when try to stop a flow of urine I suppose) which is why I think most women don’t/can’t do it.

I’ve just found an interview with Rebecca Chalker on About.com who says:

There are many reasons that some women do not ejaculate noticeable spurts of ejaculate. Under the intercourse model, many women do not become sexually aroused enough to ejaculate. The penis may block female ejaculation during intercourse, or it may be blocked by a hand or the head of a vibrator. The tiny glands on either side of the urethra (the paraurethral glands) may have been scarred over by infection. Lack of regular sexual activity may also be a factor. Perhaps the principle of muscle exercise applies: use it or lose it.

A final note on my personal experiences. Nearly all articles state that the ejaculation comes with the orgasm. Not so with me and also not with my friend who can squirt great distances. This is a massive source of frustration because men think she’s come and stop doing what they are doing! Whilst the feeling is great whilst I’m gushing away I am not coming and not even particularly close to it a lot of the time. Trust me, you'll know when I've come. (I want to go to sleep straight after)!

The time I did get a bit of an ejaculation (those who have seen it can testify here!) it was definitely a whoosh- not quite up into the air but with considerable force- far enough to hit the camera a foot away! No idea what I was doing differently (other than sitting up with legs open) than any other time. Will just have to continue to experiment!

The… and finally… bit

In the United Kingdom, the British Board of Film Classification has banned films alleged to show female ejaculation, claiming that the expert medical advice they received informed them that there is no such thing as female ejaculation, and therefore it was deemed to show urine (which is prohibited). They later stated instead that they do not take any view on whether female ejaculation exists, only claiming that all examples they have seen thus far during classification have been urination during sex. In Australia, a similar view has been taken with regards to Internet Censorship proposals, which ban pornographic websites featuring female ejaculation

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Lydia, maybe you should publish your post as an article on wikipedia - very thorough piece of information - took me longer to read than it ever takes me to ejaculate!

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Lydia, maybe you should publish your post as an article on wikipedia - very thorough piece of information - took me longer to read than it ever takes me to ejaculate!

:) Good to know someone managed to wade way through it! Do I win a prize for longest post?!

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Great post Lydia and so informative. It's much easier for men. Wank. Ejaculate. Job done.

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it is not something that a woman can learn to do - she either does it or does not and when she does it depends on so many things not least the skills of the person playing.

I have no control over such and when it first happened pre escorting days I had no idea what had happened and locked myself in the bathroom and cried, when it happened again I went and saw a dr.......it was a few years before I realised why he went red

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My GF had never done it before with anyone but does sometimes now when I stimulate her in a certain way. I do very much think it can be taught. The first thing she noticed was a feeling of wanting to pee which she blocked until I told her that was a sign of wanting to squirt. So (a) she had to be stimulated in the right way and (B) she had to be taught to bear down and not clench as described above. Of course some women do squirt under just about any circumstances.

Lydia I wonder how you would react if your clit was being stimulated at just the right time with something like an eroscillator so that you had a clitoral orgasm and squirted at the same time or one right after the other?

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Very interesting reponses by Lydia and Xenia. I started punting late in life, never knew such a thing existed but of the dozen or so WG that I have seen three are 'gushers'. All of them are in the 'mature' category. I might add. On reflection, my method of vaginal stimulation as described by Lydia seemed to 'do the trick' the first time it happened with a WG - I wasn't actually 'trying' to make the woman gush. It took me by surprise (a pleasant surprise, I may say).

Now, guys, if you want spectacular gushing, I can strongly recommend (from the "other channel") Rachel of Rhyl (see 'Scentofawoman') but be warned - you might have difficulty in finding a dry spot on the sheet after a few minutes. She must spend a fortune on laundry bills! (I have written a PN FR on her.)

Claire of Chieveley (see Judy's Mature Escorts) is a woman in her 50s that I have 'had the pleasure with' on a number of occasions. When I entered her boudoir the first time, I noticed the bed covered in towels - "I get a little wet" she said. That was an understatement, I can tell you!

Rachel and Claire are by far the wettest of the three but my first experience of 'gushing' was with Patricia (also one of Judy's). It occurred after I had made her orgasm and she was quite relaxed. I had a session with her the other day, and she left a distinct wet patch on the bedsheet as a result of gushing.

So thank you Lydia and Xenia for explaining the wonders of female ejaculation :) .

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I have to say thanks to Xenia and Lydia, especially Lydia for that hour long read ;) haha.

Very informative I must say (:

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Lydia I wonder how you would react if your clit was being stimulated at just the right time with something like an eroscillator so that you had a clitoral orgasm and squirted at the same time or one right after the other?

Yes, if my clit is stimulated then I can come and gush at the same time! I should have mentioned I probably wrote this over a year ago so things have moved on since then. I have a regular female partner who can make me squirt with some force, mainly because she now knows what she is doing and is a squirter herself. I do get pretty wet, its more of a gush than a squirt with very little effort now, I think this means my mindset and muscles have caused this... so practise will improve things!

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I love it when girls squirt on me and gush when I'm doing oral for them - lovely!

Apropos the argument as to whether the liquid is, or contains, urine, I have to say I don't mind either way, because I also love water sports. However -

"It is also said to contain two sugars: glucose and fructose"

I have a regular lady who squirts, gushes and does water sports for me, and I had noticed that her ejaculate was far sweeter than her urine. So - very interesting, thanks. Lydia.

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Very interesting reponses by Lydia and Xenia. I started punting late in life, never knew such a thing existed but of the dozen or so WG that I have seen three are 'gushers'. All of them are in the 'mature' category. I might add. On reflection, my method of vaginal stimulation as described by Lydia seemed to 'do the trick' the first time it happened with a WG - I wasn't actually 'trying' to make the woman gush. It took me by surprise (a pleasant surprise, I may say).

Now, guys, if you want spectacular gushing, I can strongly recommend (from the "other channel") Rachel of Rhyl (see 'Scentofawoman') but be warned - you might have difficulty in finding a dry spot on the sheet after a few minutes. She must spend a fortune on laundry bills! (I have written a PN FR on her.)

Claire of Chieveley (see Judy's Mature Escorts) is a woman in her 50s that I have 'had the pleasure with' on a number of occasions. When I entered her boudoir the first time, I noticed the bed covered in towels - "I get a little wet" she said. That was an understatement, I can tell you!

Rachel and Claire are by far the wettest of the three but my first experience of 'gushing' was with Patricia (also one of Judy's). It occurred after I had made her orgasm and she was quite relaxed. I had a session with her the other day, and she left a distinct wet patch on the bedsheet as a result of gushing.

So thank you Lydia and Xenia for explaining the wonders of female ejaculation :) .

i have seen Rachel from Rhyl and this lady is one of the 3 squirters i have seen and she is fantastic !! the bedsheets were in the washing machine very soon !! and they needed to be :D they were soaking ...

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I love it when girls squirt on me and gush when I'm doing oral for them - lovely!

Apropos the argument as to whether the liquid is, or contains, urine, I have to say I don't mind either way, because I also love water sports. However -

"It is also said to contain two sugars: glucose and fructose"

I have a regular lady who squirts, gushes and does water sports for me, and I had noticed that her ejaculate was far sweeter than her urine. So - very interesting, thanks. Lydia.

Don't think I'd be up for that particular lady, unless she drinks sugar-free fruit juices, that would play havoc with my diabetes.

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I have seen or caused :wub: a variety of events including a complete gush, excessive vaginal secretions, squirts ( a couple of teaspoons as described by Xenia) both gentle and projectile. I have also seen Rachel recently, she squirted during my oral on her but the gushes she generated herself.

Gush is mostly bladder water, it has to be because of the quantity, but it has been found to contain trace materials from the dormant glands that would be active in a man. So it is urine-like but not urine.

No-one knows if every woman could squirt or not, because a trigger event might be required and, like the basic :P orgasm, this could vary from person to person. There are men who claim they can induce it in any woman. I have to say from personal experience that the literature technique does seem to work, provided the person is not 'fighting' you when you try it. I used it only last week, and it worked.

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"defrosted panagasius flavor" - WTF......... :wacko:

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