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Apple Versus Microsoft

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Just downloaded the updated iTunes onto my laptop. I use it to sync between laptop and iPad. Guess what, laptop has died. Why can't these two companies sort out compatibility issues?

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sorted it thanks Sir G, it locked completely, did a forced restart - nothing, did another and it is back up and running. Mind you I have an old laptop - still running (just) on Vista!

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BTW, am going to go totally Apple soon (providing I can stop spending the money saved for a new computer on punting!)

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Vista? there's your problem sir ! lol. j/k :o

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stuff em both. install linux

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Vista on a laptop is like sticking forks in your legs. You need a lot of RAM to make it work and laptops aren't good at that.

I would just upgrade to Windows 7, damn site cheaper than forking out £1000+ on an out of date Apple that "looks nice".

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or find an old version of xp and load that. way better than vista

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I use a Vista Laptop everyday, for accounts/banking stuff alongside my MacBook Air which does everything else. I find it totally adequate, and astonishing vfm.

If there's one thing MS got right and Apple got so wrong it is the Desktop "widgets", for Weather, Exchange Rates etc.; Mac OSX forces you to open them as a separate App, which totally defeats the object.

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Rather than a new topic I hope this one can be flexed to accept the following;

I attached a manuscript in an email to a Mac user. The ms was typed in MS Word for Windows 95 - it's part of my old version of MS Office Professional. However, the recipient cannot get the Mac to open it - the message from the Mac is something like, 'What version of Word is this?'. Surely reading backwards should be easy enough despite the differences in systems? Whatever, can anyone with a Mac tell me what I can advise a similarly non-tech recipient? Because, I understand, there doesn't seem to be any way of saying, ' Word 95' to the Mac.

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Rather than a new topic I hope this one can be flexed to accept the following;

I attached a manuscript in an email to a Mac user. The ms was typed in MS Word for Windows 95 - it's part of my old version of MS Office Professional. However, the recipient cannot get the Mac to open it - the message from the Mac is something like, 'What version of Word is this?'. Surely reading backwards should be easy enough despite the differences in systems? Whatever, can anyone with a Mac tell me what I can advise a similarly non-tech recipient? Because, I understand, there doesn't seem to be any way of saying, ' Word 95' to the Mac.

What software is the mac user trying to use ? Are they using a Mac version of Microsoft office or using Apple's own word processor - Pages ?

The other thing I can suggest, is using the following website (free) to convert your word file into something else, such as a docx file that the mac user can open (depends what software they use). I used it recently to open up a microsoft works document file that someone sent me. It can't preserve all of the formatting, but it was very good conversion.

http://www.zamzar.com/conversionTypes.php

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It should be able to open it if you choose any version of Word, the difference will likely be just minor layout changes.

Alternatively save it as an RTF file and send that.

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I posted a reply to Hampton and Wyke Tyke yesterday, but it hasn't appeared - another senior moment for me!!

Anyway, I've contacted the recipient of the ms for details of the status quo to date, and will follow your advice when I get a reply. Many thanks to both of you.

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Another option would be to open it in TextEdit on the Mac. Opens pretty much anything but you do lose any formatting but at least it will be readable. Appleworks will also open it in all likelihood but that's no longer available from Apple so unless your Mac user colleague has it installed, they will need to seek an alternative solution from those recommended.

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i had always used microsoft and had an awful time of it full stop. i now have a mac and have the longest ever running laptop in my life to date.

I bought my son a very nice little laptop..3 days later the system rescue starts showing up and you have to wait an hour for everything to load whilst staring at the little twirly wait icon...grrr

straight back to the shop and got a refund then headed to the apple store for an ipad...he is loving it...and its still working.

odd though, my other son who also has a new ipad downloaded a movie and there is not section for movies in his itunes purchased section on his ipad. I still am standing firm and will never buy windows again..so there lol.x

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i had always used microsoft and had an awful time of it full stop. i now have a mac and have the longest ever running laptop in my life to date.

I bought my son a very nice little laptop..3 days later the system rescue starts showing up and you have to wait an hour for everything to load whilst staring at the little twirly wait icon...grrr

straight back to the shop and got a refund then headed to the apple store for an ipad...he is loving it...and its still working.

odd though, my other son who also has a new ipad downloaded a movie and there is not section for movies in his itunes purchased section on his ipad. I still am standing firm and will never buy windows again..so there lol.x

Good choice Chloe. :)

You may already know this and apologies for telling you if so but downloaded videos on the iPad are snot shown in iTunes as they would be on your Mac laptop nor in the iPod app as they would be on an iPhone. On your son's iPad they should appear in the video app.

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i had always used microsoft and had an awful time of it full stop. i now have a mac and have the longest ever running laptop in my life to date.

I bought my son a very nice little laptop..3 days later the system rescue starts showing up and you have to wait an hour for everything to load whilst staring at the little twirly wait icon...grrr

straight back to the shop and got a refund then headed to the apple store for an ipad...he is loving it...and its still working.

And this, folks, is why Apple are the biggest company on the planet now - despite the howling and sniping from the "IT Professionals" who see their livelihoods as Keepers Of The Ancient Secrets Of Computing going up in smoke.

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And this, folks, is why Apple are the biggest company on the planet now - despite the howling and sniping from the "IT Professionals" who see their livelihoods as Keepers Of The Ancient Secrets Of Computing going up in smoke.

I've been an "IT Professional" since just before Lady Victoria was born, and I was anti-Apple for most of that time. Not any more. They finally got it right when they moved to the Intel chipset and based OSX on Unix.. and Windoze has steadily moved from one disaster to the next.

I keep Windoze around for playing a few games. Other than that, it's Mac Pro, Macbook Pro, iPad, iPhone, iPod, Apple TV.

So, we don't all howl and snipe at Apple :)

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Amen to that. I too was an IT professional, suffering DOS through to Win NT while at work. At home though, I've been a fanboy since the late eighties but I do use Ubuntu and have an old box running Red Hat.

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I've been an "IT Professional" since just before Lady Victoria was born, and I was anti-Apple for most of that time. Not any more. They finally got it right when they moved to the Intel chipset and based OSX on Unix.. and Windoze has steadily moved from one disaster to the next.

I keep Windoze around for playing a few games. Other than that, it's Mac Pro, Macbook Pro, iPad, iPhone, iPod, Apple TV.

So, we don't all howl and snipe at Apple :)

Same here, I went all Mac earlier this year, and haven't yet found something that I can't do on a Mac that I could on a PC, and mostly it is simpler, quicker, and easier on a Mac.

Roll on iPad3 - I feel the need to replace my aging IPad1 :) for something with a decent camera.

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For the hard of thinking among us and those who's techie skills would embarrass a ten year old, would you guys recommend a small

netbook or an iPad for a touring escort ( on the road a lot ) ?

I have a standard laptop which is just about to implode and I fancy a treat in the sales.

Is there a huge difference price wise, I'm thinking a net book is cheaper ?

TYVMIA

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Good choice Chloe. :)

You may already know this and apologies for telling you if so but downloaded videos on the iPad are snot shown in iTunes as they would be on your Mac laptop nor in the iPod app as they would be on an iPhone. On your son's iPad they should appear in the video app.

yes, i went through the embarassment of finding that whilst on the phone to the store lol..hey ho...simple solution as usual with apple.

For the hard of thinking among us and those who's techie skills would embarrass a ten year old, would you guys recommend a small

netbook or an iPad for a touring escort ( on the road a lot ) ?

I have a standard laptop which is just about to implode and I fancy a treat in the sales.

Is there a huge difference price wise, I'm thinking a net book is cheaper ?

TYVMIA

the guys who actually know will possibly come along and correct me here, ipad is great, 3g is a bit more pricey but worth it as i dont think a dongle fits one. or there is the new mac air mini...light as couple of pieces of cardboard, not that much memory as with the ipad but if its just for touring then its perfect as it adds no weight to your bag....not sure if it accommodates a dongle though.x if you want something a bit cheaper and far more hardwearing then a basic macbook is fab, its what i have and has been knocked about a fair bit now and still working fine although my at symbol button is sulking at the mo, but im sure a fast trip to the store will sort it quick.x

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For the hard of thinking among us and those who's techie skills would embarrass a ten year old, would you guys recommend a small netbook or an iPad for a touring escort ( on the road a lot ) ? I have a standard laptop which is just about to implode and I fancy a treat in the sales. Is there a huge difference price wise, I'm thinking a net book is cheaper ? TYVMIA

A top of the range iPad will set you back more than 700, you can get a netbook much cheaper. I do have a netbook which runs windows 7 and is so damn slow that after trying to use it for a week I gave up and bought an iPad with 3G. I have been advised though that replacing Windows 7 on a netbook with Linux will make it run a lot faster and a lot more stable, so I'm going to give it a try, just to see what difference it makes. But you do need to be a bit tech savvie to do that.

To answer the original question, it does depend what you want to do with it, if it is simple web surfing, writing blogs, email, playing videos and music, than an iPad will be a lot simpler to run with than a netbook, plus if you get the one with 3G (and 3 offer a 10GB data plan for £15 a month), you don't have any hassles with dongles, which you will have with a netbook.

If you want to run a bunch of software, then you'll probably need a netbook and a 3G dongle.

Unless you need an iPad with a camera, then you can pick up second hand iPad 1's a good deal cheaper now than the orginal asking price. And with the iPad 3 rumoured to be coming out in a few months, second hand prices may come down even further.

Also, the Apple stores are really helpful, so if you have one nearby and a bit of time, pop in and get one of the nice people who work there to give you a demo. If you spend a couple of minutes at home beforehand, writing down a list of things you want to be able to do (e.g. word processing, email using gmail, and websites that you need to be able to access as examples) take the list with you, and get them to help you try it all out and see if the iPad will work for you.

there are some things that the iPad doesn't do well - run flash player amongst them, so if there are things you really need it to do, then pop in and ask in store. At the one near me, the staff know very well what things will and won't work on an iPad.

If however there is a website for example that you don't want to be seen looking at in public, you could stick up a link here to it and I'm sure those of us with ipads will take a look at the site and let you know if it works OK or not.

Hope that helps.

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is it actually possible to run websites that do need flashplay on an ipad at all, is there some software or an app that can be downloaded to rectify that issue.x

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