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Is It An Act...?

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Not talking about orgasms, hear me out.

I'm new to the scene, seen three girls, first one I "failed" cause of nerves, so can't really count. But being new, I'm quite interested in how this world spins. So (also never knowing what I should do after the action) I can't help but ask how they got into escorting.

Both times I got something along the lines of "well... when you don't have money for food..." and it made me feel really sorry for the girls, so bad I never went back as I don't want to feel like I'm taking advantage. But thinking back about it, do you think they were poaching for tips? Or maybe looking for a "Sugar daddy" to leech off? The last girl I saw I said "well least you have your own place" and she came back with "it's all I got"... Didn't dare ask about family.

I mean, i don't mean to be rude but it can't be that bad. What about benefits and job seekers? Even with escorting, see 1 guy for an hour a day and you're already earning more than a lot of people.

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Not talking about orgasms, hear me out. I'm new to the scene, seen three girls, first one I "failed" cause of nerves, so can't really count. But being new, I'm quite interested in how this world spins. So (also never knowing what I should do after the action) I can't help but ask how they got into escorting. Both times I got something along the lines of "well... when you don't have money for food..." and it made me feel really sorry for the girls, so bad I never went back as I don't want to feel like I'm taking advantage. But thinking back about it, do you think they were poaching for tips? Or maybe looking for a "Sugar daddy" to leech off? The last girl I saw I said "well least you have your own place" and she came back with "it's all I got"... Didn't dare ask about family. I mean, i don't mean to be rude but it can't be that bad. What about benefits and job seekers? Even with escorting, see 1 guy for an hour a day and you're already earning more than a lot of people.

It might or might not be an act, without punting with the same WGs i wouldnt know, but i dont concern myself with a WGs private business myself. It often happens if i become a regular that they start opening up to me of their own accord but i prefer to keep things centred on the punting. Ideally i am looking for no strings, no hassle sex so as long as i believe the WG is doing the job of her own free will thats all i need to know.

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So (also never knowing what I should do after the action) I can't help but ask how they got into escorting......

Didn't dare ask about family....

20 years of punting has taught me never to ask those questions, unless I know the girl well.

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Perhaps the ladies answers speaks more volumes about the ladies you happen to be seeing.

Most working ladies I've known, and probably most ladies on this board, would divert answering the question as it's none of your business. I usually divert them by the easy answer 'That's private'. If that happens to remind you that this is a business transaction, not a personal relationship, then sorry, but you brought it up. I'll just change the subject and carry on as normal, but it is very rare that I get asked personal questions.

Easy answer for you OP is, if you might not like the answer, don't ask the question. Feed your knowledge about this industry and the ladies within it on forums, you'll get a better variety of answers.

Different matter entirely when we choose to speak about a matter or post about it.

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(Until I retired) I probably regularly irritated typists by telling them that the only "Act" with a small "a" is the sex act! I never asked them whether they thought that my "bon mot" was funny, or not. In this case, I forgive you, because I think our software insists on initial caps for the whole of the subject line.

Some years ago, in the days of the Soviet Union, a TV crew went to a Moscow secondary school, and spoke to various pupils. Asked what they wanted to "do" in life, several of the girls said firmly that they wanted to be "valuta whores" (i.e. fucking for $US or Deutschmarks). That, in those days, one could understand as a valid life choice. In late 20th/21st Century UK, I very much doubt that many (I have met one particularly stellar lady who did, I believe, chose deliberately and of her own entirely free will to "go on the game" and, now at a stunning 45, I think she has no regrets, but she is rare) choose whoreing, rather than social work, teaching, or being a doctor or dentist, or even HGV driver, quietly and after careful consideration, simply as one profession, rather than another.

In my respectful opinion many of our lovely friends have found themselves abruptly with a life style to maintain, mortgage to pay, or child/children to put through private school (or, sometimes the whole lot) and, like as not, because they left education / further education or whatever, to support the male who has just died, gone to prison or done a runner, they are short on formal qualifications and have then looked carefully at the possibilities that are open to them to earn, not just a make-do SuppBen life style, but the same or better than they have been enjoying. They have then concluded that the best solution for a swift start up was to go on the game.

I'd suggest that what some of your "friends" have said was simply an abbreviated version of the above, and not a nudge for a tip. You haven't, of course, said where you met these delights. If it was in a seedy parlour @£30 a pop, then, please wash, and nip round to your local GUM clinic for a check-up, and, maybe you should then call crimestoppers, but otherwise, as my friend says, don't ask unless and until you know them well, and just pay the fee, and enjoy the offering.

Edited by Irgendeiner

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Personally, I feel for a WG to come across as unhappy or only doing this because she is desperate or some other sob story is highly unprofessional. Either that or it's a way for her to make you feel sorry for her and part with more cash. I know I should probably be more supportive of other girls, but really, men do not part with their hard earned cash to be made to feel bad or guilty.

It's not uncommon for chaps to ask me how I got into it and I don't think it is an unreasonable question to ask. I like that men are interested and intrigued by me. It helps that my (genuine) answer is quite interesting and amusing and very positive, but even if it wasn't I certainly wouldn't tell them a sob story.

It's like any customer service role, your job is not to moan and be pathetic in the same way if you asked a waitress in a restaurant how she was, you don't expect her to moan about her financial woes or her bunions. As I said it's unprofessional.

OP- Doing this is 'that bad' for some women, despite the financial gains.

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When I first started visiting WGs I had similar concerns to the OP. The first girl I visited told me she was stopping work at the end of the week and returning to her own country. So I asked her whether she had enjoyed her time as a WG.

She thought for a moment and then said, "Well, it's like any job really. It has good days and bad days, but mainly good." Then she added with quiet conviction, "Anyway, it's a lot better than an office job."

That, I think, sums it up.Very few people do ANY job because they want to do it. They do it because they have to earn money in order to live. Prostitution is no different. If you decide not to visit WGs because you would be "taking advantage" then don't visit restaurants, travel on buses, trains or taxis, use electricity, consume food or water, live in a house etc, etc, because all these products and services are provided by people who only do it because they have to earn money in order to live.

That doesn't mean that some jobs aren't a lot more enjoyable than others. One girl recently told me very emphatically me that she loved her job. (I hadn't asked.) She said she had previously worked in a hospital where everybody was bitching all the time and she hated it. In her present job (she's at HoD and LMP) she likes the management and really enjoys working with the other girls.

On the other hand, there are girls who simply can't handle it. Quite a number of bad field reports are about girls from overseas who presumably think it's an easy way to earn lots of money, or who can't think of any other way to earn money at all in their country, but are simply not cut out for the sort of work it involves. And perhaps they wouldn't be cut our for work in an office or a hospital either. "Not being cut out for it" isn't something that just applies to prostitution.

In general, it seems to me that a girl who gives a good and enthusiastic service is likely to be a girl who enjoys her job. That doesn't mean that she would still do it if she had oodles of money and didn't need to (though a few might). It does mean that I see absolutely no problem with the ethics of visiting WGs.

As for the idea that a girl would only think of going into prostitution as a result of some catastrophe in her life, apart from a couple of recent divorcees that doesn't match with the discussions I've had. (If I like a girl and see her several times, we tend to have quite intimate conversations.)

Some girls have regarded it in the same way as agency office work, as something they could do in between other things, like trips abroad. In fact one girl from Australia was using it as a way of funding her world tour. Others, as is well known, use it as a method of paying their way through university without going into debt. One approached it as a sort of personal challenge - she liked the idea but wanted to know if she could handle it. One or two considered it a natural progression from their behaviour as teenagers. None of them entered prostitution reluctantly - or, at least, with any more reluctance than they would have felt towards any job. So far as I can see, for all the girls I have discussed the matter with, it was a job like any other, but it happened to be a job that they enjoyed and did well.

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When I first started visiting WGs I had similar concerns to the OP. The first girl I visited told me she was stopping work at the end of the week and returning to her own country. So I asked her whether she had enjoyed her time as a WG.

She thought for a moment and then said, "Well, it's like any job really. It has good days and bad days, but mainly good." Then she added with quiet conviction, "Anyway, it's a lot better than an office job."

That, I think, sums it up.Very few people do ANY job because they want to do it. They do it because they have to earn money in order to live. Prostitution is no different. If you decide not to visit WGs because you would be "taking advantage" then don't visit restaurants, travel on buses, trains or taxis, use electricity, consume food or water, live in a house etc, etc, because all these products and services are provided by people who only do it because they have to earn money in order to live.

That doesn't mean that some jobs aren't a lot more enjoyable than others. One girl recently told me very emphatically me that she loved her job. (I hadn't asked.) She said she had previously worked in a hospital where everybody was bitching all the time and she hated it. In her present job (she's at HoD and LMP) she likes the management and really enjoys working with the other girls.

On the other hand, there are girls who simply can't handle it. Quite a number of bad field reports are about girls from overseas who presumably think it's an easy way to earn lots of money, or who can't think of any other way to earn money at all in their country, but are simply not cut out for the sort of work it involves. And perhaps they wouldn't be cut our for work in an office or a hospital either. "Not being cut out for it" isn't something that just applies to prostitution.

In general, it seems to me that a girl who gives a good and enthusiastic service is likely to be a girl who enjoys her job. That doesn't mean that she would still do it if she had oodles of money and didn't need to (though a few might). It does mean that I see absolutely no problem with the ethics of visiting WGs.

As for the idea that a girl would only think of going into prostitution as a result of some catastrophe in her life, apart from a couple of recent divorcees that doesn't match with the discussions I've had. (If I like a girl and see her several times, we tend to have quite intimate conversations.)

Some girls have regarded it in the same way as agency office work, as something they could do in between other things, like trips abroad. In fact one girl from Australia was using it as a way of funding her world tour. Others, as is well known, use it as a method of paying their way through university without going into debt. One approached it as a sort of personal challenge - she liked the idea but wanted to know if she could handle it. One or two considered it a natural progression from their behaviour as teenagers. None of them entered prostitution reluctantly - or, at least, with any more reluctance than they would have felt towards any job. So far as I can see, for all the girls I have discussed the matter with, it was a job like any other, but it happened to be a job that they enjoyed and did well.

Good post. Of course its because its sex and thus deeply personal that some are concerned and worried about whether WGs are doing it freely. Better to have concern than not care at all in my view, but keep it in perspective. Sadly its also looked down upon in our small minded society as are us punters as disgusting degenerate perverts so it can take some getting your head around initially that there really are women who freely choose for whatever reason to become WGs. :)

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20 years of punting has taught me never to ask those questions, unless I know the girl well.

I don't even ask the questions, though sometimes a WG will discuss the matter in conversation.

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I would only want to see people who enjoy their job, and I do the research on the profiles and read the reports to make sure those are the people I visit. I'm not interested in a tall gorgeous girl who's just waiting for it to be over, whatever the business characteristics of the transaction. Plenty of people enjoy their jobs a lot of the time - a few hate them most of the time. The latter are the ones I would try to avoid.

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I've never really asked what they do and why they do it. It's actually quite hard not to, because those things are literally the first things I ask to anyone I've met for the first time. It's my conversation starter of choice. With some working girls I end up talking about the weather instead and ho-hum.

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The very first wg I ever saw, that I selected myself (IE ignoring one or two one-offs with special circumstances) was very chatty about her life especially as i had told her i was a first timer, said that she went into the life when she was broke and mouths to feed, and after the first few weeks realised it could be a great life, and there she was, 15 years later, enjoying it and her diverse clients. It had ups and downs, she was very clear about that, but for her there was no going back. I think this story is quite common.

Better to let the girl volunteer information (though some of them will invent for the hell of it if the conversation flags) than to enquire.

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dont discuss their personal stuff unless they offer. Stick to the westher.

and steer clear of ploitics and religion too.

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Thanks for your responses, all very interesting.

I guess the question pops up partly cause I am genuinely intrigued, but also cause of nerves and not being the best with conversation.

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