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Do Outcall Girls Have To Do A 50% Cut With Agency?

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Hi

Do outcall girls have to do a 50% cut with agency?

Lets just say its costs £120 to be with her

£20 the driver will take

£50 she will take (i think)

£50 agency will take

Is it same as parlour girls they give 50% to the house?

Thanks

B

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I would have expected the agency cut to be in the region of 25-33%, maybe as low as 20%. It's still a chunk.

Ultimately, the girl has the choice of taking 100% fee (less any driver costs) and handle bookings and website promotion herself, with the risk of the usual barrage of no-shows, wankers and timewasters. Alternatively, she works for an reputable agency who will filter out the 'tosser' element of crank calls at the enquiry/booking stage, carryout a 192.com check or call punter's hotel, handle all her bookings and any website promotion - basically giving her a level of management she'd otherwise have to resource herself and in her own time. The agency also takes the risk on being busted by the local plod, and will have to deal with HMRC for tax and vat.

That said, how many girls would dress themselves up for an hour of sex with a stranger, only to come home with £50 net for an hour's effort?

Maybe that's why the other site flourishes with so many indies?

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I would have expected the agency cut to be in the region of 25-33%, maybe as low as 20%. It's still a chunk.

Ultimately, the girl has the choice of taking 100% fee (less any driver costs) and handle bookings and website promotion herself, with the risk of the usual barrage of no-shows, wankers and timewasters. Alternatively, she works for an reputable agency who will filter out the 'tosser' element of crank calls at the enquiry/booking stage, carryout a 192.com check or call punter's hotel, handle all her bookings and any website promotion - basically giving her a level of management she'd otherwise have to resource herself and in her own time. The agency also takes the risk on being busted by the local plod, and will have to deal with HMRC for tax and vat.

That said, how many girls would dress themselves up for an hour of sex with a stranger, only to come home with £50 net for an hour's effort?

Maybe that's why the other site flourishes with so many indies?

Yeah but £50 is reasonable income..... A parlour girl will charge £120 and then have to go 50% with the house so she gets £60

An independent girl will bank 100%

So the ratios on a £120 girl are:

£30 the driver will take

£50 she will take

£40 agency will take

I was just checking out very old news on the Silk and Lace escort agency and they did a turnover of almost £2mil a year - is that the norm for agencies or something? Where were they based?

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indies will still have costs, the money she makes is not her take home.

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Yeah, isn't it nice to get a 30%-50% cut for doing nothing? Or for doing things badly?

Agencies aren't in if for any altruistic purpose, for them escots are just cash cows.

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The average costs as an indpendent are, from my experience are: transport (petrol or hired driver or taxi or public transport), incall rent (hotels for short-term or a purposely rented place for long-term), advertising. Realistically these costs add up to 20-30% off earnings.

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So now you're thinking of starting an agency? With your apparent lack of knowledge about the industry, you should probably leave well alone.

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In my experience, in Scotland most agencies take 40%. I've never had one that provided drivers. Nor have any of them ever, EVER checked out the clients or provided ANY security. It's no skin off the agent's back if you go to a call and the "client" isn't there. And if you get hurt in the line of duty, then again, that's your problem. There will always be more girls willing to work for the agent and the individual girls mean absolutely nothing.

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So now you're thinking of starting an agency? With your apparent lack of knowledge about the industry, you should probably leave well alone.

okay I have left, well alone

Thanks for advice

I think you should also leave

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Yeah but £50 is reasonable income..... A parlour girl will charge £120 and then have to go 50% with the house so she gets £60

Er, no, not unless the parlour owner is stupid! I'm pretty sure that VAT is a UK tax, so that Scorpio of Edinburgh's VAT appeal applies nation-wide.

The Punter pays the parlour for the use of a room for 30, 45 or 60 minutes.

The Punter then, in the room, pays the girl her fee.

The girl usually pays a flat rate fee to work a shift, plus a small sum per bonk.

The analogy, accepted by the VAT tribunal was with many Hair Salons where (I don't use them, so have no experience) often self-employed stylists rent the use of a chair, mirror, basin, dryer, etc., for a day, and then hope to take back that and more from the ladies coming to be crimped.

The consequence for Scorpio was that the turnover to be looked at for whether the proprietor needed to register for (and pay) VAT was just the punters' room fees, plus the girs' shift fees, which brought him below the threshold! What the punter pays the girl is outside that and, unless the individual girl works a nine day week she won't get more than the threshold either.

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okay I have left, well alone

Thanks for advice

I think you should also leave

That's nice dear.

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Hi

Do outcall girls have to do a 50% cut with agency?

Lets just say its costs £120 to be with her

£20 the driver will take

£50 she will take (i think)

£50 agency will take

Is it same as parlour girls they give 50% to the house?

Thanks

B

£50 an hour is not a bad wage - That is the hourly rate for someone who is earning almost £100k a year: £50 x 37.5hrs per wk x 52 wks = £97,500pa

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okay I have left, well alone

Thanks for advice

I think you should also leave

P.S.

Shan't!

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Except it's unlikley that the girl will work 37.5 hours a week for 52 weeks a year. She'd be f*cked, in more ways than one, if she did.

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£50 an hour is not a bad wage - That is the hourly rate for someone who is earning almost £100k a year: £50 x 37.5hrs per wk x 52 wks = £97,500pa

It may not be bad wage but to receive £50 from an Agency on a £120 booking is a very bad deal. And thanks for the 37.5 hours a week, you should try it :wacko:

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The consequence for Scorpio was that the turnover to be looked at for whether the proprietor needed to register for (and pay) VAT was just the punters' room fees, plus the girs' shift fees, which brought him below the threshold! What the punter pays the girl is outside that and, unless the individual girl works a nine day week she won't get more than the threshold either.

As I recall the VAT threshold is about £70000 p.a turnover, not profit and therefore before deduction of costs and expenses.

Based on a 5 day week/50 week year for a WG that's £280 per day or 2 one-hour punters @ £140 each

Based on a 6 day week for a Wee-Free observant Scottish parlour and a 52 week year it's £225 per day.

Keeping below those limits looks a bit of a challenge for the parlour, though I'm sure lots of indies manage it.

And, just to complicate matters, VAT turnover is calculated on a rolling (monthly, I think) basis, not on the tax year. So, a good run from June to May (say) can throw you over the limit even when the tax year total is below.

Edited by wanderlust

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When I first started out, I went with an agency. They took 50% of my earnings plus £20 for the driver. They said I had to work either a Fri or Sat night as part of my contract (I soon realised there is no such thing as a contract in this business). They only worked nights and outcalls too. I never got much work from them, and was told to grow my hair or buy a wig to get more work. I started asking other girls who worked there about the business, and what the agency was like to work for. Very mixed reactions and a high turn over of girls. I then discovered SAAFE, and found that most agencies take 25-30%, and didn't look after your safety. Needless to say I didn't stay with the agency very long. Thanks to the numerous girls on SAAFE, I went indie in June this year and have never looked back.

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As I recall the VAT threshold is about £70000 p.a turnover, not profit and therefore before deduction of costs and expenses.

Based on a 5 day week/50 week year for a WG that's £280 per day or 2 one-hour punters @ £140 each

Based on a 6 day week for a Wee-Free observant Scottish parlour and a 52 week year it's £225 per day.

Keeping below those limits looks a bit of a challenge for the parlour, though I'm sure lots of indies manage it.

And, just to complicate matters, VAT turnover is calculated on a rolling (monthly, I think) basis, not on the tax year. So, a good run from June to May (say) can throw you over the limit even when the tax year total is below.

Two weeks per year holiday?Wow!

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Why are we feeding this troll again?! See his previous topics!

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Why are we feeding this troll again?! See his previous topics!

Why do you think troll?

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Why do you think troll?

Because we've read your posts.

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Two weeks per year holiday?Wow!

Luxury, eh? She'd be right spoilt and would totally contradict Mad Hattie's maddest perceptions.

Mind you, if she worked a 6 day week and took 10 weeks off, not two, the position would be about the same - 6 days x 42 weeks x 2(£140) = £70650 p.a.

In any event my greater surprise is an a parlour that convinced HMRC that its turnover was < £70000.

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Because we've read your posts.

So that proves that you can read

...and btw I am flattered that you read my posts

Thanks

Stop trolling on my threads love!

Now back on topic everyone else.....

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Hi Do outcall girls have to do a 50% cut with agency? Lets just say its costs £120 to be with her £20 the driver will take £50 she will take (i think) £50 agency will take Is it same as parlour girls they give 50% to the house? Thanks B

What are you a wannabe pimp or something? With the number of threads you have posted up about the money and workings of prostitution you should be an expert by now.

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