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What New Things Will Come To Punting In 2012?

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2011 has seen a large increase in the number of escorting websites having video clips of some of the girls.

Will this become to norm? I think it will, as agencies and independents who try to stay one step ahead of their competition will see this as a logical progression, and as those lagging behind will be forced to, to try to keep up.

As money gets tighter what other things do you think agencies will adopt, to get your custom? Do you think we will ever get a "season ticket" from an agency to encourage punters to use their agency in preference to others. An annual payment that entitles you to a discount on appointments during the year sort of thing?

Will we see "off peak" discounts for early appointments so the girls can make full use of their working day?

I can also see more and more SP's having twitter feeds, by this time next year I think the majority of SP's will be using Twitter to keep customers up to date, and giving short time offers to bolster custom when the girls are sitting round twiddling their thumbs.

What are your predictions for the next year?

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2011 has seen a large increase in the number of escorting websites having video clips of some of the girls.

Will this become to norm? I think it will, as agencies and independents who try to stay one step ahead of their competition will see this as a logical progression, and as those lagging behind will be forced to, to try to keep up.

As money gets tighter what other things do you think agencies will adopt, to get your custom? Do you think we will ever get a "season ticket" from an agency to encourage punters to use their agency in preference to others. An annual payment that entitles you to a discount on appointments during the year sort of thing?

Will we see "off peak" discounts for early appointments so the girls can make full use of their working day?

I can also see more and more SP's having twitter feeds, by this time next year I think the majority of SP's will be using Twitter to keep customers up to date, and giving short time offers to bolster custom when the girls are sitting round twiddling their thumbs.

What are your predictions for the next year?

I would certainly welcome many more WGs offering video clips but some who dont wish to show their faces or bodies that have distinctive tattoos might not be so willing. I dont go to Agencies as they are far far too expensive in London for my liking so hope Indies start doing this as well. I also have zero interest in Twitter, its mind-numbingly boring to me but if i could get a discount from a WG i was wanting to punt with anyway, i would look at it to get the code number or whatever.

I would like to see many more WGs working, the more the merrier as it increases my choice. With some Euro economies in a very bad state some may come here to work as WGs.

I certainly wouldnt pay an annual payment, Agencies could be shut down at any moment by the police or just go out of business, so i stick to only ever paying on the day, never in advance.

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The dire state of the economy means that more ladies may turn to escorting in 2012 I guess. This may lead to more choice while fees remain at current levels. It is very unfortunate that, given the cuts in public spending, the impact on employment has been greater amongst the female population due to the higher percentage working in the health, social services and education fields. Is it too much to hope that some may become more mature escorts, an area much under represented in both agencies and amongst independents ? We see lots of new Eastern European twenty plus years old in the escorting scene for whom I suspect money is the name of the game but few new older ladies to keep us guys happy. ( No offence meant to the more mature WG posters and moderators on the site).

I am not a regular punter but reading the posts on this site I guess that most look for variety and do not often see the same girl twice so a discount scheme may not result in repeat bookings. I guess that for the agencies in MK etc it may be more useful but from what I read the recession is yet to impact upon them.

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Quality calendars, screensavers, backgrounds, paperweights, playing cards, etc with popular images. It may be these things are being done and I've not seen them, but there must be scope along those lines if they aren't.

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I have previously been of the view that with more ladies competing for the shrinking £ of the punter that we'd see a price war. Sadly, nothing has moved in that direction, and we are left with a large number of ladies who still have an over-inflated opinion of themselves and charge well above what the market can stand.

It's hard to put a figure on how much my disposable income has dropped during 2011 due to tax/petrol/food/general price rises, but I'd say between 15-20%, so that means I punt less, or at the same frequency but at a cheaper end of the market.

I think we all appreciate that the ladies are facing similar cost increases, but with mounting competiion, I don't see any tempting offers, such as 20 mins extra free for each hour booked, or other discounts to bring the business in. Doubtless, some girls will say they that business has not declined, they dont need to promote tempting offers,their income stream is unaffected etc, but I know, and so do many other punters that there are far more laides offereing services, so someone will be suffering a downturn in business, so where are they?

On a different slant, for 2012, I would like to see ladies being more honest with photos and profile descriptions, but then there's as much chance of that as me spending a night with Alesha Dixon.

But generally, I think we will see a slight decline in the number of agencies in certain parts of the country as police and HMRC crackdown, meaning even more indies............

I also think that from the beginning of April, the nationals will be carrying lots of stories (based on sod all evidence) on how London is being infiltrated with thousands of hookers for the 2012 Olympics.

Roll on 2012.

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Do you guys really think the punting scene will change that much in 2012?

The economy has been in a TERRIBLE state for a few YEARs now although its obviously got alot worse recently. However, it hasnt really seemed to change the punting scene... Supply and demand I guess.

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and the £ 60 per hour thread will get longer as more girls will go for more clients at lower prices , here in London that is .

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recessions are funny things.

OK many will be feeling the pinch, but others will be doing OK

Company I am with has just increased salaries by 5%. But I am leaving in Jan and freelancing at double the money.

OK not that wonderful but just goes to show there is a sizeable part of the population still have a good disposable income.

and some of those will be punters punting the same as they have for the last few years.

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Price war ?

mistype it and it becomes pric war.

To me, punting isnt like going to iceland or aldi.

I dont expect a price-war in this industry, not in UK, and I dont intend to "fly the ryanairs of punting" either. (if only because I hate to be milked for all the extra's).

And remember the saying about "pay peanuts" ?

I'd rather look for quality and improved service myself. I intend to stay loyal to my regulars and will see how that develops.

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recessions are funny things.

OK many will be feeling the pinch, but others will be doing OK

Company I am with has just increased salaries by 5%. But I am leaving in Jan and freelancing at double the money.

OK not that wonderful but just goes to show there is a sizeable part of the population still have a good disposable income.

and some of those will be punters punting the same as they have for the last few years.

Yes, a large proportion of people are feeling the pinch but there are still millions of men with fairly high or high disposable incomes even though disposable incomes have fallen for the last 4-5 years. Whether men choose to spend as much on punting is hard to guess.

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2011 has seen a large increase in the number of escorting websites having video clips of some of the girls.

Will this become to norm? I think it will, as agencies and independents who try to stay one step ahead of their competition will see this as a logical progression, and as those lagging behind will be forced to, to try to keep up.

As money gets tighter what other things do you think agencies will adopt, to get your custom? Do you think we will ever get a "season ticket" from an agency to encourage punters to use their agency in preference to others. An annual payment that entitles you to a discount on appointments during the year sort of thing?

Will we see "off peak" discounts for early appointments so the girls can make full use of their working day?

I can also see more and more SP's having twitter feeds, by this time next year I think the majority of SP's will be using Twitter to keep customers up to date, and giving short time offers to bolster custom when the girls are sitting round twiddling their thumbs.

What are your predictions for the next year?

Video will become a lot more common as it has with the internet in general. There are a lot of other web commerce developments that mainstream retailers are using to improve their offering but it's hard to guess if these will filter into the murky world of punting. There are two such areas I think may become bigger in 2012:

1) For busier establishments who can afford or want to invest in keeping their websites contemporary, the mobile web will become much more significant. Location based services i.e. offers specific to where you happen to be located and sent to your smartphone will become a more compelling possibility. I expect to see other places offer smartphone apps like a few have done already.

2) 'Social commerce' i.e. sharing information with people you know about what you are buying/recommending etc is going to be huge in the real world. We have something akin to this with the FR system and forums but it's not truly social. There might be a way to make this happen for punting.

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2011 has seen a large increase in the number of escorting websites having video clips of some of the girls.

Will this become to norm? I think it will, as agencies and independents who try to stay one step ahead of their competition will see this as a logical progression, and as those lagging behind will be forced to, to try to keep up.

As money gets tighter what other things do you think agencies will adopt, to get your custom? Do you think we will ever get a "season ticket" from an agency to encourage punters to use their agency in preference to others. An annual payment that entitles you to a discount on appointments during the year sort of thing?

Will we see "off peak" discounts for early appointments so the girls can make full use of their working day?

I can also see more and more SP's having twitter feeds, by this time next year I think the majority of SP's will be using Twitter to keep customers up to date, and giving short time offers to bolster custom when the girls are sitting round twiddling their thumbs.

What are your predictions for the next year?

I believe there is an agency in the North which offers something along those lines.

There are plenty of carrots and plenty of donkeys in this business.

I doubt it will catch on nationwide though..... far too many lovely ladies around in other agencies

for a client to stay faithful to one establishment.

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Price war ? mistype it and it becomes pric war. To me, punting isnt like going to iceland or aldi. I dont expect a price-war in this industry, not in UK, and I dont intend to "fly the ryanairs of punting" either. (if only because I hate to be milked for all the extra's). And remember the saying about "pay peanuts" ? I'd rather look for quality and improved service myself. I intend to stay loyal to my regulars and will see how that develops.

I do recall the saying pay peanuts but it doesnt apply in punting. Paris who used to work in Soho Walk-Ups from £22 was a highly rated WG. I have punted with fantastic WGs at £80 an hour myself. The truth as i see it from my experience is a WG is either good or not, thats determined by her attitude not what she charges. I look for WGs i fancy and who are VFM as i see it myself. I dont view it as staying loyal, loyal is not a word i would use, but i will certainly be continuing to punt with great regulars.

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Video will become a lot more common as it has with the internet in general. There are a lot of other web commerce developments that mainstream retailers are using to improve their offering but it's hard to guess if these will filter into the murky world of punting. There are two such areas I think may become bigger in 2012: 1) For busier establishments who can afford or want to invest in keeping their websites contemporary, the mobile web will become much more significant. Location based services i.e. offers specific to where you happen to be located and sent to your smartphone will become a more compelling possibility. I expect to see other places offer smartphone apps like a few have done already. 2) 'Social commerce' i.e. sharing information with people you know about what you are buying/recommending etc is going to be huge in the real world. We have something akin to this with the FR system and forums but it's not truly social. There might be a way to make this happen for punting.

I am intrigued by your Social Commerce point. I agree about it not being truly social, how to reach more punters is an interesting thing to me. Any idea how to make this happen for punting? I see Twitter and Facebook are being used by some SPs so that takes it outside punting forums into the mainstream.

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There will be a modest price drop by certain parlours, eg no entry fee on certain days, and on a personal level more girls will offer bareback.

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As quantity increases quality diminishes!

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I do recall the saying pay peanuts but it doesnt apply in punting. Paris who used to work in Soho Walk-Ups from £22 was a highly rated WG. I have punted with fantastic WGs at £80 an hour myself. The truth as i see it from my experience is a WG is either good or not, thats determined by her attitude not what she charges. I look for WGs i fancy and who are VFM as i see it myself. I dont view it as staying loyal, loyal is not a word i would use, but i will certainly be continuing to punt with great regulars.

I dont DisAgree with that. Especially the bold part.

The good ones become regulars.

As for "loyal", let us just call it recurring business then.

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As quantity increases quality diminishes!

or quality becomes harder to find, needles in haystacks...

but I'm fairly sure the quality of my dates increases.

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I do recall the saying pay peanuts but it doesnt apply in punting. Paris who used to work in Soho Walk-Ups from £22 was a highly rated WG. I have punted with fantastic WGs at £80 an hour myself. The truth as i see it from my experience is a WG is either good or not, thats determined by her attitude not what she charges. I look for WGs i fancy and who are VFM as i see it myself. I dont view it as staying loyal, loyal is not a word i would use, but i will certainly be continuing to punt with great regulars.

Well said, the whole point of punting, for me, is the variety. I have been at it since 1970, starting in Soho, now have one regular, looking fo more, she is £80 per hour, fantastic attitude, from the first punt, and it has got better. I now try to punt below £100, walk if extras are asked for or I don't fell right.

I do find WG's over the age of 30 seem to be better, both in attitude and humour, have had exceptions, but they have tended to be girls looking for a bit of extra money rather than 'professionals'.

I think the 'Olympics effect' will be interesting, if the expected influx happens, will prices fall or rise?

The rest of the country, who knows, Sandys Superstars, House of Divine, both successful, will other providers spring up, very dependent on the attitude of the local Plod I suspect.

Happy hunting to one and all!

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.... walk if extras are asked for or I don't fell right.

Out of context, that just sounds funny.

how do you Fell right ?

I do find WG's over the age of 30 seem to be better, both in attitude and humour, have had exceptions, but they have tended to be girls looking for a bit of extra money rather than 'professionals'.

Agree.

I think the 'Olympics effect' will be interesting, if the expected influx happens, will prices fall or rise?

Any area where large events happen: most prices rise (and I think that would include punting - too many ppl want to make a buck).

So expect higher asking prices. Whether enough punters bite remains to be seen, but by the time the suppliers realize they overpriced, it will be too late for most clients and providers to benefit much)

From personal experieince: stay clear of large (sporting etc) events: too much chaos for my likeing.

no hotels, no transport, no service (many temp-personnel, improvising amateurs everywhere) and the security nightmare with everyone nervous.

The rest of the country, who knows, Sandys Superstars, House of Divine, both successful, will other providers spring up, very dependent on the attitude of the local Plod I suspect.

Happy hunting to one and all!

Ditto.

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Out of context, that just sounds funny.

how do you Fell right ?

Agree.

Any area where large events happen: most prices rise (and I think that would include punting - too many ppl want to make a buck).

So expect higher asking prices. Whether enough punters bite remains to be seen, but by the time the suppliers realize they overpriced, it will be too late for most clients and providers to benefit much)

From personal experieince: stay clear of large (sporting etc) events: too much chaos for my likeing.

no hotels, no transport, no service (many temp-personnel, improvising amateurs everywhere) and the security nightmare with everyone nervous.

Ditto.

Should have read 'feel'

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New in 2012 will be the natural progression from the "girlfriend experience"

The Wife Experience!

You turn up to see the WG. She ignores you when you walk in, give it five minutes and she will start to complain that you haven't asked how her day is, followed by a run down of how stressful it's been getting your children to behave themselves.

Then there will be a knock on the door. This will be either her mother, sister or best friend and together they will spend the rest of the time telling you how bloody useless you are and how your "wife" would have had so much a better life if she'd married a real man.

They will indicate that your time is up by telling you to "piss off out to the shed like you always do".

:P

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Nothing will change much apart from the rip offs. I think they will increase because of that other site nobody is allowed to mention...............

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New in 2012 will be the natural progression from the "girlfriend experience"

The Wife Experience!

You turn up to see the WG. She ignores you when you walk in, give it five minutes and she will start to complain that you haven't asked how her day is, followed by a run down of how stressful it's been getting your children to behave themselves.

Then there will be a knock on the door. This will be either her mother, sister or best friend and together they will spend the rest of the time telling you how bloody useless you are and how your "wife" would have had so much a better life if she'd married a real man.

They will indicate that your time is up by telling you to "piss off out to the shed like you always do".

:P

Resolution for 2012 , must have a shed installed in back garden , close to pond .

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It is obviously getting more competitive out there. More girls looking for perhaps fewer punters,or punters punting fewer times? I have noticed that there are girls now touring to places where there are not many escorts. It's certainly happening in Carlisle with an organised flow of girls from Manchester coming up for a couple of days. The general opinion locally is that they are not anything special which is why they are not getting their share of the clients on their home patch.

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