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Knowing When The Wg Has Genuinely Orgasmed.

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I've been with three WGs now. Two of them didn't orgasm...the sex was very robotic and by the numbers and it was clear they weren't really looking to get anything out of it. The third and my latest punt was amazing. The girl came very quickly once she got on top (she had claimed this was her favourite position). Throughout the entire punt I felt a genuine sexual connection with her and she really did seem to get as much enjoyment from it as I did.

I'm always suspicious (sorry that's my nature) of any WG's profile that says something along the lines of "I really do enjoy doing this for the sex". My immediate reaction is, "Sure you do. You're just saying what you think guys want to hear but you're just looking forward to spending the cash." After my first two punts I'd almost come to the conclusion that I shouldn't expect any real chemistry with a WG and certainly not expect her to genuinely cum. In fact I'd go so far as to say whenever a punter here says his WG came, I'd cringe and think to myself, "that poor deluded guy...dude she was faking it!"

But when this girl came it gave me a silent chuckle. Not just for the satisfaction of making a woman cum...which admittedly had been well over a year...but also it reminded me of how you can really know a woman has come. Not just by their tensing around your cock or their uncontrollable spasms but how, once they've come, they'll noticeably lose their ability to keep a sexual rhythm with you. This is the part that makes me chuckle inside. Indeed with one girlfriend I couldn't help laughing out loud on occasion as she was obviously trying so hard to keep rhythm to help me cum but always utterly and hopelessly failed (I loved her all the more for it and she found it amusing too).

This isn't something that I've ever really brought up in conversation before, so was curious if other guys notice this? Is there anything else you pick up on that shows an orgasm is genuine or have you been with any women that did something pretty unique when they came? Also, have any of you guys been at the receiving end of a fake orgasm with a WG? Also interested in the woman's take on this. Most women I've been with just totally give up trying to keep rhythm with a guy after they've come; preferring to become submissive. Do you girls concur?

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My ex who was a WG was really good at doing it, she said it took quite a bit of practice to be convincing, sorry if I'm bursting your bubble.

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Reminds me of that song by Racey:

Some girls will, some girls won't

Some girls need a lot of lovin' and some girls don't

Well, I know I've got the fever but I don't know why

Some say they will and some girls lie

.

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My ex who was a WG was really good at doing it, she said it took quite a bit of practice to be convincing, sorry if I'm bursting your bubble.

Thats been my experience too, some women are very good actresses, i go on whether they appear to enjoy it, thats good enough for me outside a relationship.

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Personally I don't fake, I don't think I could do convincingly and to be honest for me orgasms are not the be all and end all of sex. I can have an excellent session without coming and I think it's still fairly obvious that I've had a good time. The worst thing for me is a man asking me to come and going on about it, There's nothing more that will stop me from coming. Even if I am at the point of orgasm and a man says 'Come for me' it'll scare my orgasm away! I think for many women it's what is going on in their head not what parts of their body are being stimulated. So yes it is very possible a WG does genuinely love sex but she can't always come each time. We are not robots!

Yes, girls do fake it, I have been with women in threesomes/group sessions are are obviously faking it, but I think as a woman I can probably tell better than a man!

Of course girls will say they enjoy sex and some won't really, noone is going to say on their profile that they hate sex and just want money are they so you'll have to judge for yourself she is the kind of girl you'll enjoy spending time with and research on here and read her feedback or FRs.

There are some girls in this game who never come, never want to. Didn't Belle Du Jour, Brooke Magnanti, confess she never ever came with clients?

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Personally I don't fake, I don't think I could do convincingly and to be honest for me orgasms are not the be all and end all of sex. I can have an excellent session without coming and I think it's still fairly obvious that I've had a good time. The worst thing for me is a man asking me to come and going on about it, There's nothing more that will stop me from coming. Even if I am at the point of orgasm and a man says 'Come for me' it'll scare my orgasm away! I think for many women it's what is going on in their head not what parts of their body are being stimulated. So yes it is very possible a WG does genuinely love sex but she can't always come each time. We are not robots!

Yes, girls do fake it, I have been with women in threesomes/group sessions are are obviously faking it, but I think as a woman I can probably tell better than a man!

Of course girls will say they enjoy sex and some won't really, noone is going to say on their profile that they hate sex and just want money are they so you'll have to judge for yourself she is the kind of girl you'll enjoy spending time with and research on here and read her feedback or FRs.

There are some girls in this game who never come, never want to. Didn't Belle Du Jour, Brooke Magnanti, confess she never ever came with clients?

I know exactly what you mean about being asked are you coming yet or are you ready to come from when bad WGs have said it to me over the years, it always has the opposite effect. Fortunately most dont say such things.

At parties some of the WGs regularly fake orgasm so as to let another punter in in my experiences, the punter who thinks he has made her come goes off walking on air with a great sense of achievement. One particular party WG was upfront with all punters about never having come with any punter ever and it wouldnt be happening in the future either, she made it clear she was a giver rather than a receiver and giver. :)

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I've been with three WGs now. Two of them didn't orgasm...the sex was very robotic and by the numbers and it was clear they weren't really looking to get anything out of it. The third and my latest punt was amazing. The girl came very quickly once she got on top (she had claimed this was her favourite position). Throughout the entire punt I felt a genuine sexual connection with her and she really did seem to get as much enjoyment from it as I did.

I'm always suspicious (sorry that's my nature) of any WG's profile that says something along the lines of "I really do enjoy doing this for the sex". My immediate reaction is, "Sure you do. You're just saying what you think guys want to hear but you're just looking forward to spending the cash." After my first two punts I'd almost come to the conclusion that I shouldn't expect any real chemistry with a WG and certainly not expect her to genuinely cum. In fact I'd go so far as to say whenever a punter here says his WG came, I'd cringe and think to myself, "that poor deluded guy...dude she was faking it!"

But when this girl came it gave me a silent chuckle. Not just for the satisfaction of making a woman cum...which admittedly had been well over a year...but also it reminded me of how you can really know a woman has come. Not just by their tensing around your cock or their uncontrollable spasms but how, once they've come, they'll noticeably lose their ability to keep a sexual rhythm with you. This is the part that makes me chuckle inside. Indeed with one girlfriend I couldn't help laughing out loud on occasion as she was obviously trying so hard to keep rhythm to help me cum but always utterly and hopelessly failed (I loved her all the more for it and she found it amusing too).

This isn't something that I've ever really brought up in conversation before, so was curious if other guys notice this? Is there anything else you pick up on that shows an orgasm is genuine or have you been with any women that did something pretty unique when they came? Also, have any of you guys been at the receiving end of a fake orgasm with a WG? Also interested in the woman's take on this. Most women I've been with just totally give up trying to keep rhythm with a guy after they've come; preferring to become submissive. Do you girls concur?

If the importance of a women's orgasm makes a huge difference to your appointment then really you are in the wrong game. It would impossible for a WG to orgasm every time she had sex just as it for a 'normal' girl. If a girl is Indie or otherwise it is also impossible for this to have any bearing on her ability to orgasm. I'm sure in relationships you have had great sex and get it over with sex it is all about the frame of mind. You can't click with every person you meet and your tried and tested 'love god' techniques will not work on every girl, each women is 100% unique in what turns on her on although I find 20's usually go a long way to making most moist.

There are some girls that thrown themselves into the appointment some will fake orgasm but be so busy looking like they enjoy themselves that you would never know the difference. Some will not be some convincing but still orgasm because you happened to do something that made it impossible for them not to. I worked with a buxom, fabulous blonde for years who was a wild shag and got hundreds of reports telling us how strong her orgasms were. One day she walked out of the room from an appt with a peculiar little man and said Jesus don't think bad of me girls but I just came with that funny little man, it's unbelievable because I can't remember the last time I came but he managed it. She was so embarrassed and kept going on about it all day how she never comes with a client but he had made her. Yet every man that walked out of the door would be convinced he made her come at least 3 times.

As we have all experienced real orgasms we know what it takes to fake an orgasm, we also know that we are there to do a job so even if we were to orgasm it would not be in our favour to change the pace or lie there submissive we would keep going as what we are paid to do is make you cum enjoying ourselves is secondary on our list. It's a bonus if it happens, it can happen at the strangest times but females generally are not able to deliver on spec we normally need to be relaxed.

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How do ladies fake the convulsing of the pussy muscles, the squirting, odd passing of wind and the incredicble sensitivity of the clitoris? Also, the flushing of the face?

OK, you can fake the moaning and the shouting out 'yes, yes', but the aforementioned things are impossible to fake?

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How do ladies fake the convulsing of the pussy muscles, the squirting, odd passing of wind and the incredicble sensitivity of the clitoris? Also, the flushing of the face?

OK, you can fake the moaning and the shouting out 'yes, yes', but the aforementioned things are impossible to fake?

Pelvic floor exercises.

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I had my first 2 punts last week. In the first, I really liked the WG and even though I don't have a lot of experience ( been stupid and have repressed sex for ages) I could tell that she was faking it. I understand. Women are very complex (whether or not it's a WG.....it's still a woman) , they aren't like us guys.

As guys we are different, more 'logical and simple', we just need to be attracted on a physical level. But a woman, has to be very attracted on a psychological level too.

As long as the WG treats me nicely and does her best, I am more than happy.

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I'm always suspicious (sorry that's my nature) of any WG's profile that says something along the lines of "I really do enjoy doing this for the sex".

This isn't a slight but she didn't say she really enjoys being with you.

You've picked the lady. She may have never seen you before. You might not be her type. You might give off the wrong vibe. She may be having a bad day. In a matter of minutes you've gone from nothing to being very intimate. The odds the lady will have lust at first sight aren't exactly 100%

I disagree with NewBie that we're simple. Women are just different.

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How do ladies fake the convulsing of the pussy muscles, the squirting, odd passing of wind and the incredicble sensitivity of the clitoris? Also, the flushing of the face?

OK, you can fake the moaning and the shouting out 'yes, yes', but the aforementioned things are impossible to fake?

Crikey I don't fancy yours much if she farts when she cums !!!! Of course we can fake an orgasm, ever seen a girl push a ping pong ball out of her, it's because when we can be bothered we can contract our muscles just like when we come, we can even make them appear to involuntarily twitching just like post orgasm. We can giggle and squirm and pretend we are all sensitive and the flushing will be from the exertion that has got us to the stage that we feel we are going to have fake this or be suffering from cystitis all week from the guy trying to make us cum.

Squirting is a whole different thing, I know on porn films they use milk (this is not a lie,this is from a girl that makes loads of squirter films) Simply pour the milk in and again using those lovely muscles push it all out whilst shouting and screaming and hey presto the squirting queen makes another film. i prefer to do it with champagne far nicer for all concerned. She could always pee herself and tell the chap she was squirting if she was inclined most are going to be so busy wiping it out of their eyes to wonder where it came from other than that not sure but how many girls actually squirt on orgasm. Fanny farts as well ? Now I have no idea why someone would fart on orgasm, they normally happen when someone has thrust your legs behind your head and given you a good pounding allowing air to enter again a rare event and certainly not one to be used to level a real orgasm I personally can't remember the last time that has happened to me and don't particularly relish it when it does.

Most women I know orgasm from stimulation of the clit not the vagina. I find the vagina produces a softer orgasm which is what some girls may experience which is why you don't think they have cum, the clit being stimulated can produce what I call a gut wrencher which can involve such force that it pushes the penis out just at the vinegar stroke which is never appreciated and spoils it for the man but this level of orgasm would be difficult to fake.

All in all if you are busy worrying if she is coming or faking it then you are wasting your money on an appointment, Just enjoy it and be happy that you have come, women can enjoy sex without an orgasm. I personally enjoy giving oral it seriously turns me on, I haven't ever come from it as of course there is no stimulation but I enjoy the experience I think I enjoy seeing the pleasure it can give and get off on watching the experience unfold which is what a lot of girls will be doing in an appointment so you could ruin the whole thing by trying to control the appointment and making it about what you perceive is her pleasure.

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Crikey I don't fancy yours much if she farts when she cums !!!! Of course we can fake an orgasm, ever seen a girl push a ping pong ball out of her, it's because when we can be bothered we can contract our muscles just like when we come, we can even make them appear to involuntarily twitching just like post orgasm. We can giggle and squirm and pretend we are all sensitive and the flushing will be from the exertion that has got us to the stage that we feel we are going to have fake this or be suffering from cystitis all week from the guy trying to make us cum.

Squirting is a whole different thing, I know on porn films they use milk (this is not a lie,this is from a girl that makes loads of squirter films) Simply pour the milk in and again using those lovely muscles push it all out whilst shouting and screaming and hey presto the squirting queen makes another film. i prefer to do it with champagne far nicer for all concerned. She could always pee herself and tell the chap she was squirting if she was inclined most are going to be so busy wiping it out of their eyes to wonder where it came from other than that not sure but how many girls actually squirt on orgasm. Fanny farts as well ? Now I have no idea why someone would fart on orgasm, they normally happen when someone has thrust your legs behind your head and given you a good pounding allowing air to enter again a rare event and certainly not one to be used to level a real orgasm I personally can't remember the last time that has happened to me and don't particularly relish it when it does.

Most women I know orgasm from stimulation of the clit not the vagina. I find the vagina produces a softer orgasm which is what some girls may experience which is why you don't think they have cum, the clit being stimulated can produce what I call a gut wrencher which can involve such force that it pushes the penis out just at the vinegar stroke which is never appreciated and spoils it for the man but this level of orgasm would be difficult to fake.

All in all if you are busy worrying if she is coming or faking it then you are wasting your money on an appointment, Just enjoy it and be happy that you have come, women can enjoy sex without an orgasm. I personally enjoy giving oral it seriously turns me on, I haven't ever come from it as of course there is no stimulation but I enjoy the experience I think I enjoy seeing the pleasure it can give and get off on watching the experience unfold which is what a lot of girls will be doing in an appointment so you could ruin the whole thing by trying to control the appointment and making it about what you perceive is her pleasure.

I concur with this post but would like to add that there have been times when I have had both a vaginal and a clitoral orgasm from doing it in the missionary position. It takes ages but you can get there, and then afterwards you are completely wasted.

I think orgasms are something you can't put your finger on because every one is different. Some are so powerful they make you convulse and that is when you are in danger of hurting the guy :) Some are more gentle - it depends upon the girl and the guy and the chemistry.

I have some clients who can make me orgasm within a minute and some who can make me cum but it takes a whole lot longer.

Like Annabellas i have my doubts about squirting, although one man said he made me squirt. He used fingers and seemed like an expert. I remember he made me howl with pleasure/pain not quite sure what he did but he said I squirted. The floor was soaked, but it could have been piss. i reserve judgement on that one.

I remember one odd night a few years back I had a horny session with a reg when I gave him a blow job. He was standing up and I was kneeling and I orgasmed just doing it. Never done it since though.

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When I am with a WG, my own enjoyment is paramount. If I do things she enjoys and cause her to orgasm, then fine but I don't go into an appointment trying to make her cum. I am frankly not bothered whether she cums or not. You don't have to make a lady cum for her to enjoy sex.

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"I think orgasms are something you can't put your finger on"

Exactly. Or tongue for that matter.

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Of course I love nothing more than to bring a lady to orgasm, whether a real life partner or a WG. I probably even enjoy bringing a lady to orgasm more than my own release!

BUT I hate fake orgasms! End of! I don't need patronising fake groans to make me feel good, I like a fluid natural session and if the lady has an orgasm then all the better. Natural bedroom noises are always nice, but not "you got all the duvet again" though.

I have asked ladies at the time of booking or meeting to be natural and not fake and they will happily oblige. A recent lady who I forgot to ask faked in minutes when I knew full well I hadn't put the mileage in yet plus she didn't exhibit the usual physical signs off an orgasm.

Anyway ladies, not all of us like moaning and hollering unless it's the real thing, in which case I love it.

DG

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You always know when the girl has orgasmed - it's that tell tale flushed face and satisfied lttle sigh....................as she picks the envelope / wad up!!!

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When I am with a WG, my own enjoyment is paramount. If I do things she enjoys and cause her to orgasm, then fine but I don't go into an appointment trying to make her cum. I am frankly not bothered whether she cums or not. You don't have to make a lady cum for her to enjoy sex.

I dont go in to a punt with the specific aim of making a WG come either, if it appears to happen great, if not such is life but at least i enjoyed myself.

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The girl came very quickly once she got on top (she had claimed this was her favourite position).

Not just for the satisfaction of making a woman cum..

I don't think you can claim to have made her cum in that case. She knew exactly how to rub her clit against your pubic mound to make herself cum did you notice she was rocking more than thrusting? When they do that you can be sure its for their benefit.

Nipples change shape after an orgasm, the inside of the vagina changes from tenting to collapsed around your cock or fingers (hollow feeling changes to feeling like you have stuck your fingers into a marsh mellow) There can be a flush and you could be recording her pulse which will peak but I was filming a porn star close up pussy/bum shot and she caught me by making her bum hole and pussy pulse but I told her that her timing was off, should have been 0.7 second pulses not as fast as she was doing them. But still I was impressed by her acting for the close up.

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In my experience, it's great when it happens (and you instinctively know when it does), it doesn't matter when it doesn't, and it's generally something I never bring up in conversation, either before, during or after the event : not quite sure why, but I suspect because it would feel like

putting one's ego on display, like it's some big achievement, when actually it can be quite sublime and some things are better left unsaid. The male orgasm on the other hand ....

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Is it possible for girls to come quietly? without all the dramatics and spazams?

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met a squirter. feels good.

also when their legs go wobbly

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Reminds me of that song by Racey:

Some girls will, some girls won't

Some girls need a lot of lovin' and some girls don't

Well, I know I've got the fever but I don't know why

Some say they will and some girls lie

.

yep. Unexpectedly good summary from the 70s.

I've had several of whom I was sure, or near sure, that they orgamed, they were good!

But ... It is the female mystery. deeper so with the professionals, the WLs.

As guys, we will never really know....

just sit back and enjoy the ride.

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we can write and ponder about this forever...

I don't think you can claim to have made her cum in that case. She knew exactly how to rub her clit against your pubic mound to make herself cum did you notice she was rocking more than thrusting? When they do that you can be sure its for their benefit.

Nipples change shape after an orgasm, the inside of the vagina changes from tenting to collapsed around your cock or fingers (hollow feeling changes to feeling like you have stuck your fingers into a marsh mellow) There can be a flush and you could be recording her pulse which will peak but I was filming a porn star close up pussy/bum shot and she caught me by making her bum hole and pussy pulse but I told her that her timing was off, should have been 0.7 second pulses not as fast as she was doing them. But still I was impressed by her acting for the close up.

lol,

But if it does happen, is it the girl who allows herself to cum.

She has to "let it happen" herself.

The male partner is just a help, an enabler at best, but not really the cause.

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In 30 odd years, it has only happened to me once. They lady concerned became highly emotional saying, amongst other things, that it had been years since she last orgasmed with someone and feared she never would again. Initially for a few moments I was chuffed to bits but then I kind of feared what I might have unleashed. Luckily it was ok after she came down.

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