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Car Meets

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Following the thread in General Discussion, I was just wondering if anyone here could clarify the legalities surrounding car meets. I have a feeling that if a passerby were to phone the police, you could end up in a bit of bother - and not of the right kind.

Myself and other ladies have noticed an upsurge in requests for this type of meet, I have an idea it's due to some profiles on a certain site offering this option, and/or some of those profiles being for ladies who possibly might not have any premises to work from.

I've never taken up such an offer on the basis of safety, I also advise guys that this is also something they need to consider too - even if it's merely discretion as your vehicle does have a number plate!

Anyway some information on legalities, and possible problems which could arise as a result, would be great.

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As far as I'm aware, it's perfectly legal to have sex wherever you damn well please as long as nobody sees you.

To be arrested for indecent exposure, someone has to see you.

To be arrested for gross public indecency (or whatever it's called) there have to be at least two people present who could have possibly seen you, but it doesn't matter whether they did or not. IYSWIM

Simples... Don't get feckin' caught!

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The Sexual Offences Act (2003) doesn't legislate specifically against sex in public places, but that doesn't make it legal.

Sex in isolated places is technically OK, so long as you have a reasonable expectation of privacy - and, of course, you don't get spotted.

However, flashing your bits in public can be classed as "outraging public decency" and is a prosecutable offence,

the punishment being up to two years in prison and / or a fine.

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Many, if not most, of the guys my age had much of their initiation into the joys of sex in their cars. We couldn't take girls home, it was too expensive to rent a hotel room etc etc. We all knew which quiet country lanes were safe, and most evenings you would see lines of cars with misted up windows.

I know that times have changed a lot, but I am sure sex in cars still goes on. I would imagine that if the location chosen were suitably private then P C Plod should have better things to do with his/her time. how are they to know if it "commercial" sex?

So from the legal point of view I see no problems. Does that help?

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but if 2 girls have sex with 2 punters in the same car does it become a brothel?

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but if 2 girls have sex with 2 punters in the same car does it become a brothel?

My brother and I used to go out with a pair of sisters. What are you implying?

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Anyway some information on legalities, and possible problems which could arise as a result, would be great.

It's very unlikely to come within section 66 SOA 2003 (Exposure) or the common law offence of "indecent exposure" unless there's an intention to expose genitals to third parties.

It's more likely to be the common law offence of Outraging Public Decency, as Laura says. On indictment the maximum penalty is life imprisonment. There is a requirement for at least 2 persons to witness the lewd, obscene or disgusting act. Those witnesses can be police officers.

In practice there are only about 500 prosecutions a year for OPD. I doubt that the police would be too bothered unless they were below their monthly arrest target. Even then in most cases I can't see the CPS wanting to prosecute.

If they suspect that the girl is a prostitute (or the punter is indiscreet enough to admit it) then I suppose that the police may well take a greater interest in the matter to see if any street offences have been committed (eg soliciting).

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how do doggers manage? do they get prosecuted?

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how do doggers manage? do they get prosecuted?

Occasionally they do but ACPO's policy is that they shouldn't only in the last resort, after warnings etc.

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It's very unlikely to come within section 66 SOA 2003 (Exposure) or the common law offence of "indecent exposure" unless there's an intention to expose genitals to third parties.

It's more likely to be the common law offence of Outraging Public Decency, as Laura says. On indictment the maximum penalty is life imprisonment. There is a requirement for at least 2 persons to witness the lewd, obscene or disgusting act. Those witnesses can be police officers.

In practice there are only about 500 prosecutions a year for OPD. I doubt that the police would be too bothered unless they were below their monthly arrest target. Even then in most cases I can't see the CPS wanting to prosecute.

If they suspect that the girl is a prostitute (or the punter is indiscreet enough to admit it) then I suppose that the police may well take a greater interest in the matter to see if any street offences have been committed (eg soliciting).

As far as I know, the two people don't actually have to see, they just have to be in a position where they could see.

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As far as I know, the two people don't actually have to see, they just have to be in a position where they could see.

I hear what you say. There appears to be fairly contradictory arguments about the point and the postion is far from clear. Paragraphs 14.43 to 14.47 of my copy of Rook & Ward (amounting to about 3 pages) pretty much say that: "In short, the point....remains open."

http://www.sweetandm...roductid=332004

I've also learnt that car-meet sex is called "Amomaxia".

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In practice there are only about 500 prosecutions a year for OPD.

ONLY? Isn't 500 a year rather a lot, considering most people will not be actively seeking to exhibit themselves. Or does it involve arrests for dogging?

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ONLY? Isn't 500 a year rather a lot, considering most people will not be actively seeking to exhibit themselves. Or does it involve arrests for dogging?

That figure is going to include non-sexual acitivities such as urinating on a war memorial and a lot of other bizarre activities such as wearing aborted foetuses as earings, displaying statues of Jesus Christ with an enlarged phallus etc etc.

It can be a bit of a catch-all offence but in many police areas it's discouraged for use in PSE's ( Public Sex Environments) eg dogging or cottaging sites.

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I hear what you say. There appears to be fairly contradictory arguments about the point and the postion is far from clear. Paragraphs 14.43 to 14.47 of my copy of Rook & Ward (amounting to about 3 pages) pretty much say that: "In short, the point....remains open."

http://www.sweetandm...roductid=332004

I've also learnt that car-meet sex is called "Amomaxia".

Sounds like something that would involve your lips turning blue. Actually, unless you left the engine running and the heater on, in Scotland it would probably turn most parts blue.

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Not sure that dogging is quite the same as meeting an escort for sex in a car but we shall see. I thought that dogging involved an audience and more than one partner.

Edited by porker paul

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it is not worth the risk. but then people like the risk factor also :blink:

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