MrMohican

Bedroom/bathroom Dilemma

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I agreed to rescheduling a booking I had with a WG from 10pm to 10.30pm at short notice last week. A pain, as I got the call from the agency literally as I was about to get on the tube.

In the end I arrived at the WG’s flat 5 minutes early to the rescheduled time (10.25).

The reason:

a) the rescheduling meant I had to kill time on a freezing and unlovely part of the edgeware road, so wanted to cut this short.

B) I wanted a shower - Being considerate I like to be squeaky clean for the girl - and thought I would use the extra time to do this.

However after we had done the deed, the girl tried to get me to dress and leave straight away.

It said 11.40 on the clock! WTF!!!

She was counting the time I had spent in the bathroom freshening up as part of my booking time and had deducted five minutes for me to get dressed at the end. in other words I was paying for 40 minutes of ‘bedroom’ time with her rather than 60minutes. this was despite the fact I had turned up early.

Now if she had joined me in the shower, fair enough, but she hadnt. Equally, if a bath had been run and she got in with me, then it would be fair to say the booking had started then, but all she did was point me in the direction of the towels and gels and then left the room for me to get on with things myself. Cheekily she had even left to freshen up in the bathroom herself after I had got back into the bedroom.

Now ordinarily, if the booking had gone well I might have turned a blind eye to this, but things had already gone downhill during the service. I wont go into detail here but amongst her most cardinal sin was texting a reply to someone right in the middle of penetration!!!! Talk about killing the mood!!!!

Consequently I was feeling in a pretty inflexible frame of mind and made the point I had paid for the hour and wanted a massage to fill the last ten minutes. She grumpily rubbed my back for five minutes and then insisted I leave which was still 5 minutes early!

When I took this up with the agency they reckoned that the girl had acted within her rights by asking me to leave at this time. Their response and their general intrasigence to the other bad things that took place meant I am now reviewing whether I use them ever again.

The whole experience completely spoiled my evening and left me in a really bad mood for days. Both the agency and the girl are generally well thought of on these pages, (although I notice one of your more regular contributers Bill Goldberg also has had a bad experience with the same WG) so it got me to mull over this whole issue.

I know that ‘clockwatchers’ are not generally well regarded in this forum, but equally I have seen the flip-side of the argument presented; the WG argues that bathroom time should come out of the clients time and not hers.

My own feeling is that a reasonable amount of ‘buffer’ time should be allowed between bookings, say 15 mins so that the guy has enough time to jump in the shower and get dressed, or just a bit of chit chat at the end so that he doesnt feel he is being rushed out the door. Surely, if you are paying agency prices, a higher level of service should be expected right? Virtually all of the best WG’s I have visited have offered this as a matter of course, but there doesnt seem to be any hard and fast rule. My view is, if a guy pays for an hour he should get an hour - in the bedroom! Not the bathroom.

Anyone else got any opinions on this?...

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Common sense is the name of the game regards showering time. I do have a technical question though, you say you arrived 5 minutes early and left at 11.40pm. How long was your appointment time supposed to be - for me that makes the time from arrival to departure 1 hour 15 which is for a 1 hour booking plenty of time to shower, and have the full hour.

Confused.

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She can't entertain any other clients whilst you're in the bathroom. It counts as part of the Service time.

You wanted a GFE & you complain about her texting... I was thinking of watching Eastenders over my client's shoulder.... To make it authentic!

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Arriving Before Time

Real courtesy would have been to phone her and ask IF it was okay to arrive early, even if only by 5 minutes. Not just turn up because you had the address. You've assumed it would be okay to do so and assumed you'd get to shower as additional time. Supposing, as you arrived early, you'd bumped into the previous punter leaving late, who like you thought showering and dressing up afterwards should be extra time. Or maybe the guy before you had also over-stayed and so she didn't get the freshen up between clients time that she needed.

She Needed The Bathroom???

She went into the bathroom to freshen up while you were there. (perhaps the time she'd wanted to "freshen up" before you arrived early). Just because she didn't announce to you that she was going for a slash doesn't mean this wasn't why she went in there. The deal for a true lady is to piss as quietly as a mouse, but the running water to douche, or wash hands will make tell-tale freshening up sounds. If there's only one bathroom in the apartment, she needed to wait for you to get out of it first (sometimes I've got such good rapport with some of my regulars that I'll pee in front of them and vice-versa - I may even be so good as to helpfully hold their willy while they're at).

Would you like to shag a woman with a full bladder and still expect her to perform like a goddess, or does a working girl lose the right to heed the call of nature without penalty? If, as I'm guessing, she went into the bathroom for a last minute pre-shag pee (for want of a better description but it does feel better having sex on an empty bladder), did you want her to rush back to the bedroom without performing due diligence in terms of hygeine (can't spell that word to save my life but I know when it smells of)? Be grateful she didn't just shake her fanny then present herself, legs wide open, for you to perform the clean-up. (That's actually a specialised service, I'll have you know!)

Hell Hath No Fury Like An Agency Short-Changed By A Crafty Hooker

She works for an agency. To the best of my knowledge, the agency expects her to call at the end of the hour to confirm you've left and she is available for the next client. If she doesn't, the agency think she's done a deal with you and being paid extra. She needed you staying over the hour (which you did) like she needed a hole in the head. If you waltzed in there at 10.25 and were out of there at 11.40, then like Strawberry, I'm wondering, what's your beef? Wouldn't surprise me if the agency has placed you on their "touch not this one with a barge pole" list.

The Shower Question

A client takes the shower not to do the lady, escort, wife or girlfriend, a favour. You take that shower and make yourself clean so she can focus on giving you a good time, not focus on trying to suck, fuck, talk AND hold her breath at the same time. As I read somewhere, the cleaner the punter, the filthier the service. It's at the lady's discretion whether the clock starts as soon as you walk in through the door, whether it's while you're drinking the tea or having a pre-punt chat, or after the shower. I agree that if she'd joined you in the shower, the time would have started from then.

If you were expecting sympathy with your moan here, better luck next time.

xxx

Pru

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Well he can have a bit of sympathy from me Pru , You missed the bit about her texting someone in the middle of the sex .

Let's hope Bill G. comes on the thread and names the girl then we can all beware . Sounds like a poor service to me .

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I suspect 1140 is a typo for 1120. That is the only way the piece would make sense to me. The complaints about shower time and finish time do seem misplaced for the reasons the ladies have listed above. But the texting was out of order. Does seem to making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill. It was a bad punt. They happen. If someone else had previously complained about her then I question whether the OP did his research properly.

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Oh gosh, true! That was off. The phone should be ignored completely when a client is in through the door. To do it during the actual sex ... True! sorry, I forgot that bit.

Well he can have a bit of sympathy from me Pru , You missed the bit about her texting someone in the middle of the sex .

Let's hope Bill G. comes on the thread and names the girl then we can all beware . Sounds like a poor service to me .

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I agreed to rescheduling a booking I had with a WG from 10pm to 10.30pm at short notice last week. A pain, as I got the call from the agency literally as I was about to get on the tube.

In the end I arrived at the WG’s flat 5 minutes early to the rescheduled time (10.25).

The reason:

a) the rescheduling meant I had to kill time on a freezing and unlovely part of the edgeware road, so wanted to cut this short.

:cool: I wanted a shower - Being considerate I like to be squeaky clean for the girl - and thought I would use the extra time to do this.

However after we had done the deed, the girl tried to get me to dress and leave straight away.

It said 11.40 on the clock! WTF!!!

She was counting the time I had spent in the bathroom freshening up as part of my booking time and had deducted five minutes for me to get dressed at the end. in other words I was paying for 40 minutes of ‘bedroom’ time with her rather than 60minutes. this was despite the fact I had turned up early.

Now if she had joined me in the shower, fair enough, but she hadnt. Equally, if a bath had been run and she got in with me, then it would be fair to say the booking had started then, but all she did was point me in the direction of the towels and gels and then left the room for me to get on with things myself. Cheekily she had even left to freshen up in the bathroom herself after I had got back into the bedroom.

Now ordinarily, if the booking had gone well I might have turned a blind eye to this, but things had already gone downhill during the service. I wont go into detail here but amongst her most cardinal sin was texting a reply to someone right in the middle of penetration!!!! Talk about killing the mood!!!!

Consequently I was feeling in a pretty inflexible frame of mind and made the point I had paid for the hour and wanted a massage to fill the last ten minutes. She grumpily rubbed my back for five minutes and then insisted I leave which was still 5 minutes early!

When I took this up with the agency they reckoned that the girl had acted within her rights by asking me to leave at this time. Their response and their general intrasigence to the other bad things that took place meant I am now reviewing whether I use them ever again.

The whole experience completely spoiled my evening and left me in a really bad mood for days. Both the agency and the girl are generally well thought of on these pages, (although I notice one of your more regular contributers Bill Goldberg also has had a bad experience with the same WG) so it got me to mull over this whole issue.

I know that ‘clockwatchers’ are not generally well regarded in this forum, but equally I have seen the flip-side of the argument presented; the WG argues that bathroom time should come out of the clients time and not hers.

My own feeling is that a reasonable amount of ‘buffer’ time should be allowed between bookings, say 15 mins so that the guy has enough time to jump in the shower and get dressed, or just a bit of chit chat at the end so that he doesnt feel he is being rushed out the door. Surely, if you are paying agency prices, a higher level of service should be expected right? Virtually all of the best WG’s I have visited have offered this as a matter of course, but there doesnt seem to be any hard and fast rule. My view is, if a guy pays for an hour he should get an hour - in the bedroom! Not the bathroom.

Anyone else got any opinions on this?...

I expect a good service however i punt myself, but i always ring or text if i am early and its up to the WG if she is prepared to agree to me arriving early, on occassion a previous punter hasnt turned up so me arriving early has suited, other times not.

I rarely have problems with being short changed on the time agreed and which i have paid for, a shower takes me a few minutes so its no big deal. Most of my 121 punts are an hour and i mostly get all the sex in that i can manage. You complained about things and got no joy so why you would even consider still giving your custom to this Agency is beyond me, i would be going elsewhere if i wasnt happy with their response. Certainly the texting during sex would of completely put me off leading to me leaving, i assume you mentioned this to the Agency, if so that would tell me all i needed to know about them.

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Anyone else got any opinions on this?...

Write a FR.

Generally, if you have to say anything bad to say in a FR, wait a day so your initial anger as subsided, and then you will write a more objective FR than an angry rant. I see your visit was a few days ago.

Some WGs book hourly slots, so the last punter has to be out of the door before the next one arrives. Some leave a gap between each appointment. Some include showering time, some dont. * Makes note to self to include these details on FRs as it makes a big difference to how a visit goes *

I always ring if I get early in the area to see if its ok to arrive early. Sometimes I've waited until the alotted hour only for the girl to say I should have rung as she wasn't busy. Sometimes they are busy, so no problem (as long as they dont answer their phones whilst on the job).

Its always best to ring even if you are bang on time as sometimes they have overrun slightly with a previous appointment and say give me 5 minutes.

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Absolutely no on texting on her phone! I can't believe she would do that.. Scratches head.

The times you mention does not add up though. You were there for one hour and fifteen minutes and had 40 minutes in the bedroom. It took you 35 minutes to have a shower?

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Could we get Professor Brian Cocks in to do the math on this one please?

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Could we get Professor Brian Cocks in to do the math on this one please?

Not sure where you come from Garth but here we refer to the subject of sums as MATHS!

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As I said above I think 1140 is a typo for 1120.

I reckon this is how it pans out:

1000-1100 Original booking

moved to

1030-1130

1025 Turns up, apparently expecting that will mean he can stay until 1130

1025-1035 He showers

1035-1040 She freshens up

1040-1120 Forty minutes of sex (including texting!)

1120 She brings things to an end so he has 5 minutes to dress to take his time to 1125, 60 minutes after he arrived. He still expects another 20 minutes of action for 60 minutes of sex in total or at least another 10 minutes to take the booking up to the booked ending time of 1130 despite him turning up at 1025. She agrees to give him a massage.

1125 60 minutes after arrival he is asked to leave and feels short changed.

There are clearly things she did wrong but, if my interpretation above is correct, then he was trying to take advantage a bit as well.

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Personally, I would expect the timer to start as I walk in the door. If she chooses to be generous and not count the shower, I would take it as a well appreciated bonus.

However, the "texting during penetration" is just not on in my book, that's really awful. It's already annoying when a WG doesn't switch her phone to silent, but that is just unforgivable.

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I hadn't read the sentence about texting either, I was concentrating on the shower question. Definitely not on. Showering and getting dressed/undressed shouldn't take more than a few minutes, so should be neither here nor there for either party be it either way.

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As as been said it varies from one lady to the next as to when the clock starts, some start the minute you walk in the door while others (provided you're not taking the piss of course) are happy to let you have a shower before and after and clock only the bedroom time, to be fair a shower at her place should just be to freshen up and as Strawberry puts it that doesn't take long, the bigger issue here is the poor service and especially the texting, personally I wouldn't see her again and if the agency were no help especially after messing you about with a last minute reschedule I wouldn't book through them again either other than to see someone I really wanted to who was exclusive to them.

One thing I will say against you is the showing up early thing, don't do it, you are given a time to arrive and that's is when you arrive, especially for an agency lady where you don't have direct contact with her, being in the area early and going for a coffee somewhere is fine, by all means if it's an indy you're meeting drop her a text and ask, but unless you are told specifically that it's ok, don't knock on the door early.

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I agreed to rescheduling a booking I had with a WG from 10pm to 10.30pm at short notice last week. A pain, as I got the call from the agency literally as I was about to get on the tube.

In the end I arrived at the WG’s flat 5 minutes early to the rescheduled time (10.25).

The reason:

a) the rescheduling meant I had to kill time on a freezing and unlovely part of the edgeware road, so wanted to cut this short.

B) I wanted a shower - Being considerate I like to be squeaky clean for the girl - and thought I would use the extra time to do this.

However after we had done the deed, the girl tried to get me to dress and leave straight away.

It said 11.40 on the clock! WTF!!!

She was counting the time I had spent in the bathroom freshening up as part of my booking time and had deducted five minutes for me to get dressed at the end. in other words I was paying for 40 minutes of ‘bedroom’ time with her rather than 60minutes. this was despite the fact I had turned up early.

Now if she had joined me in the shower, fair enough, but she hadnt. Equally, if a bath had been run and she got in with me, then it would be fair to say the booking had started then, but all she did was point me in the direction of the towels and gels and then left the room for me to get on with things myself. Cheekily she had even left to freshen up in the bathroom herself after I had got back into the bedroom.

Now ordinarily, if the booking had gone well I might have turned a blind eye to this, but things had already gone downhill during the service. I wont go into detail here but amongst her most cardinal sin was texting a reply to someone right in the middle of penetration!!!! Talk about killing the mood!!!!

Consequently I was feeling in a pretty inflexible frame of mind and made the point I had paid for the hour and wanted a massage to fill the last ten minutes. She grumpily rubbed my back for five minutes and then insisted I leave which was still 5 minutes early!

When I took this up with the agency they reckoned that the girl had acted within her rights by asking me to leave at this time. Their response and their general intrasigence to the other bad things that took place meant I am now reviewing whether I use them ever again.

The whole experience completely spoiled my evening and left me in a really bad mood for days. Both the agency and the girl are generally well thought of on these pages, (although I notice one of your more regular contributers Bill Goldberg also has had a bad experience with the same WG) so it got me to mull over this whole issue.

I know that ‘clockwatchers’ are not generally well regarded in this forum, but equally I have seen the flip-side of the argument presented; the WG argues that bathroom time should come out of the clients time and not hers.

My own feeling is that a reasonable amount of ‘buffer’ time should be allowed between bookings, say 15 mins so that the guy has enough time to jump in the shower and get dressed, or just a bit of chit chat at the end so that he doesnt feel he is being rushed out the door. Surely, if you are paying agency prices, a higher level of service should be expected right? Virtually all of the best WG’s I have visited have offered this as a matter of course, but there doesnt seem to be any hard and fast rule. My view is, if a guy pays for an hour he should get an hour - in the bedroom! Not the bathroom.

Anyone else got any opinions on this?...

Pretty much in agreement

Only poor punts I've had recently have been with: Emily at 007 (the worst owo ever and one of the dullest punts I've ever endured)

And....Mochi/Tulip at various (almost zero effort from her on every level and she was WAY more out of shape than the onsite photos portrayed)

So which one was it ?

No harm in naming and shaming poor SPs

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Yep - that was a mistake on the timing. I should have said 11.20, not 11.40. sorry for the confusion guys.

If you discount the shower at the beginning, that means I was being short-changed by 10 minutes or would have been if she had got her way. The 5 minutes of grumpy back-rub meant she got away with just shaving 5 minutes off.

That doesnt sound like much, I know and like i said earlier i would have turned a blind eye if the service had been good, but it wasnt, so it just ended up feeling like it was the final insult.

The way i see it, I had been flexible in allowing my booking to be changed at short notice. surely I should expect a similar level of flexibility back? Right?...

The 5 minutes at the beginning to shower ‘off the clock’ would have been a really nice goodwill gesture. The fact this wasnt offered is one thing but the fact that she felt it was reasonable to charge me for the time SHE was in the bathroom I find inexplicable, not to say, unprofessional.

Like I said earlier, if you are paying agency prices, i really think you should expect a certain level of service and one of those things I would expect is for the girl to be ready and waiting as soon as you arrive. if for whatever the reason she is over-running, fine, she can take some time to freshen up, but dont expect to charge me for the privilege!

As to me turning up 5 minutes early. Yes, I agree with most of the comments here. Normally i would have been concerned I might overlap with another clients booking, but I had already been told by the agency that the reason she was running late was to do with it being a new flat and needing to pick up a key. I figured the worst that could happen is she might not be ready for me. But I had already decided I wanted a shower first, so this needn’t have been an issue.

Now I could get in to other bad elements of the service, or naming and shaming. But I'm not sure I feel ready to do that yet. I also feel we'll get bogged down in the details of this one encounter. For me there is a larger issue.

As punters when we are told we are paying for an hour do you not think we should get an hours ‘service’?

As an agency or an independent do you not have a sensible level of ‘buffer’ time between the new client arriving and the old one leaving? i would be interested to hear what people working in the industry have to say on this matter. Is there a general consensus on this?

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There isn't a general consensus about anything in this industry!

Moody provider's, stroppy customers, generosity, meanness etc etc.

What surprises me is the number of providers that provide such a crap service that their customer will be a one time only one but apparently these providers can still make a living?

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There isn't a general consensus about anything in this industry!

Moody provider's, stroppy customers, generosity, meanness etc etc.

What surprises me is the number of providers that provide such a crap service that their customer will be a one time only one but apparently these providers can still make a living?

We are human beings, and there are two sides to every story. If we are insincere and saccharine to all, we short-change the good, punctual, considerate, hygienic engaging clients. If we are sincere to the smelly, inconsiderate, tardy, contemptuous clients we're bad. The best compromise to my mind is being civil and smiley to clients I would be glad not to see again, and sincere with the clients I like.

I am not trying to build a career out of this: as soon as I stop enjoying it, I will quit. I refuse to condemn another escort if I do not know her or what she did. Just as I laugh off my clients' flaws and ineptitude, I will laugh off those of other escorts. I think that tolerance allows escorts and clients to rub along together.

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Mr Mohican

You asked for contributions from indies, well speaking for myself I almost always leave a large buffer between bookings although I've often been asked by guys to reduce that in order to 'fit them in'. Some have actually asked me to have 5 minutes in between, which I informed them would not leave me time to shower myself! I have never cut things that fine it simply isn't my style.

If a client has booked 1 hour from 10.30-11.30 then they should have already planned for her to be busy between those times, and therefore no need for her to usher you out 10 minutes early, unless of course you'd started the appointment at 10.20 which you didn't - it was 10.25/10.30ish.

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There isn't a general consensus about anything in this industry!

Moody provider's, stroppy customers, generosity, meanness etc etc.

What surprises me is the number of providers that provide such a crap service that their customer will be a one time only one but apparently these providers can still make a living?

Too true. There nothing uniform or standard at all.

On the shower thing. I used to have a regular who's flat was only 2-3 miles from the airport. When setting of overseas I often used to leave as if on an earlier flight, Check in & dump the big bag then get Metro back to her place for a couple of hours, which usually finished with a shared bath. As often as not she would offer to drive me back to the airport. Nice memories to pass a long-haul..

Similarly on return, I often called from Schiphol to fix an appointment. After 18 or so hours traveling a shower before starting was a must. She never turned into a lemon on the 2 hours! But that was her and that was then.

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I'm not suggesting there's a consensus, but I and most indies I know tend to allow half an hour between bookings.

I don't mind if a client wants a shower when the time is up, but it does piss me off when they do it with absolutely no sense of urgency. Typically this means they spend about 10 mins in the shower, then they stroll out with a towel round them and start chatting, whilst slowly and methodically drying every tiny bit of themselves. Then they start getting dressed and spend five minutes finding their socks and putting them on and another five minutes tying their shoe laces. Then comes the inspection in the mirror and the faffing around with the hair, then another 5 mins checking they've got everything.

In the meantime I'm getting frantic wondering how on earth I'm going to get ready for the next guy who's already ringing to say he's five minutes away.

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I'm not suggesting there's a consensus, but I and most indies I know tend to allow half an hour between bookings.

I don't mind if a client wants a shower when the time is up, but it does piss me off when they do it with absolutely no sense of urgency. Typically this means they spend about 10 mins in the shower, then they stroll out with a towel round them and start chatting, whilst slowly and methodically drying every tiny bit of themselves. Then they start getting dressed and spend five minutes finding their socks and putting them on and another five minutes tying their shoe laces. Then comes the inspection in the mirror and the faffing around with the hair, then another 5 mins checking they've got everything.

In the meantime I'm getting frantic wondering how on earth I'm going to get ready for the next guy who's already ringing to say he's five minutes away.

Puts me in mind of the old one of two two students in an all female college discussing fellas and one remarked that X dresses so well. "Yes" says the other, "and so quickly"

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Puts me in mind of the old one of two two students in an all female college discussing fellas and one remarked that X dresses so well. "Yes" says the other, "and so quickly"

ha ha! yes indeed.

As long as I don't need to wash my hair, I can be in and out of the shower, dried and dressed in about 10 mins flat (and that includes a proper wash). I've no idea why it takes some men so long!

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