Crystal

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I just read on another topic how agencies are alot quieter now. Why is this? Is it because people are fed up with being mis-led? do you find it more risky? I would love to know I am very intrigued. Alot more agencies have closed down so surely it should be busier for those that are still around?

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I just read on another topic how agencies are alot quieter now. Why is this? Is it because people are fed up with being mis-led? do you find it more risky? I would love to know I am very intrigued. Alot more agencies have closed down so surely it should be busier for those that are still around?

xx

Theres been quite a few bad reports recently, especially from agencies at an expensive rate so I think some guys are getting scared off.

Although I had a great punt yesterday with an agency girl in London. Very well handled booking, girl exactly as photos and had a great 3 hours. Unfortuantly they are on the no-reports list. So no point in saying anything more.

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I would suggest a combination of reasons. Perm any 2 from 8:

Over-supply of escorts leading to increased competiton and more choice

Punters haid less paid sex due to their financial constraints

Punters moving to cheaper end of market for more VFM - why pay £200 to an agency when you can get a £100 shag on **?

A reluctance of girls to reduce prices/offer deals

Lack of information on girl or lack of verifiable info in the form of FRs.

Greater fear of being caught with more brothel raids

Too many girls setting up in the biz who are not committed and dont offer VFM

And yes, too many scammers and rip off merchants still around

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I just read on another topic how agencies are alot quieter now. Why is this? Is it because people are fed up with being mis-led? do you find it more risky? I would love to know I am very intrigued. Alot more agencies have closed down so surely it should be busier for those that are still around?

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It is simple Crystal..

Mainly due to the credit crunch.

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I just read on another topic how agencies are alot quieter now. Why is this? Is it because people are fed up with being mis-led? do you find it more risky? I would love to know I am very intrigued. Alot more agencies have closed down so surely it should be busier for those that are still around?

xx

IMO it is not to do with the industry. I think that there is less money about. The lag effect means that it is only now that people are reigning in on their discretionary expenditure. The prospect is for a second difficult winter, I always felt October would be the month when people stopped spending and in my business the phones are quieter than ever.

It then gets difficult to handle paying £100 or so on a punt and if you get a poor punt it makes it more likely you will take longer to punt again.

Of course HH and trouble in general is not conducive to punting either.

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So much has changed since I left for Australia. The industry in the last year or so has changed so much. The discounts are unbelievable sometimes.

I wonder if I still worked if I would even get the same rates that I used to!

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So much has changed since I left for Australia. The industry in the last year or so has changed so much. The discounts are unbelievable sometimes.

I wonder if I still worked if I would even get the same rates that I used to!

xx

Well although there is a "credit crunch". There are still quite a lot of people who havent had the doom n gloom that the media leads you to believe.

I for one have more money coming in that I did this time last year thanks to the fall on interest rates.

I seem to have punted a lot more this year than I did last year because of it.

I think I missed the drop in rates and discounts. They seem to still be the same where I look.

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So much has changed since I left for Australia. The industry in the last year or so has changed so much. The discounts are unbelievable sometimes.

I wonder if I still worked if I would even get the same rates that I used to!

xx

Personally, I haven't been affected by the credit crunch. But I do hear a little voice in my head encouraging me to be prudent. Squeeze my bum.

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For us there has been only change for the better, people in this industry tend to forget there is a real world out there one where people live a week on what a girl earns in a few hours. It is with this in mind that we changed our company.

We listented to clients and watched forums. Clients were moving away from expensive Indies or didn't want to take a chance on a newbie. No longer was it acceptable for a girl to turn up open her legs and away she went. With this in mind we knew that we had to offer the Indie experience to clients but with parlour prices. If people want value for money that is what you must deliver.

Easy money is a thing of the past and actually I think this is a good thing. Good girls who offer a top service will always be busy, lazy girls who think the world owes them a living will suffer.

Money is tight for a lot of people but like everyone who has a hobby or a genuine sexual need the money will be found from somewhere but in these times it will be spent wisely and on someone you know will not rip you off.

Just another observation but towards the end of each month ego is even busier, I think this proves how tight money is as the £15 saved seems to make all the difference close to pay day. We offer twitter discounts as a way to enable clients to enjoy perhaps more than one punt a month, the discount is met by us and not the lady and we hope it helps.

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For us there has been only change for the better, people in this industry tend to forget there is a real world out there one where people live a week on what a girl earns in a few hours. It is with this in mind that we changed our company.

We listented to clients and watched forums. Clients were moving away from expensive Indies or didn't want to take a chance on a newbie. No longer was it acceptable for a girl to turn up open her legs and away she went. With this in mind we knew that we had to offer the Indie experience to clients but with parlour prices. If people want value for money that is what you must deliver.

Easy money is a thing of the past and actually I think this is a good thing. Good girls who offer a top service will always be busy, lazy girls who think the world owes them a living will suffer.

Money is tight for a lot of people but like everyone who has a hobby or a genuine sexual need the money will be found from somewhere but in these times it will be spent wisely and on someone you know will not rip you off.

Just another observation but towards the end of each month ego is even busier, I think this proves how tight money is as the £15 saved seems to make all the difference close to pay day. We offer twitter discounts as a way to enable clients to enjoy perhaps more than one punt a month, the discount is met by us and not the lady and we hope it helps.

That is a good way to do it, I hate Agencies that take the cut off the girls and they end up making nothing. Good going Divine!

I have only been receptioning again for a week so I haven't seen a pattern yet other then the fact football keeps all the clients away! I have also noticed it's not steady we will be extremely busy for 4 hours and then nothing for another 4 then rushed off our feet again. I love it though I love the adrenaline rush and the need to be constantly on the ball.

I have noticed like you said it is not a case of just opening your legs wang bang casham anymore!! alot more girls offer A-levels and other specialist services, 2 years ago when I was at an agency it was rare to find one girl to offer A-levels now near enough everybody offers it, There is alot of competition and lots of really gorgeous girls!

xx

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Personally, I haven't been affected by the credit crunch. But I do hear a little voice in my head encouraging me to be prudent. Squeeze my bum.

Squeeze.......... :confused:

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Squeeze.......... :eek:

Oo baby. How about a tickle or two? :confused:

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Crystal

a lot more girls may offer A but that is not the same as doing it ! :confused:

i know for a fact some offer it but will never do it !

as others say a lot of WGs need to get real as most guys wot pay £150 for a

shag , to a lot that is 1/2 a weeks take home pay !

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Crystal

a lot more girls may offer A but that is not the same as doing it ! :confused:

i know for a fact some offer it but will never do it !

as others say a lot of WGs need to get real as most guys wot pay £150 for a

shag , to a lot that is 1/2 a weeks take home pay !

To be fair I think a lot of girls/agencies have got real and it is rare not to get a straight hour with a gorgeous girl for between £100 and £120. £100 for an hour is a cracking rate by anyones standards.

However guys are still reigning it in I suspect. Going two weeks instead of every week etc.

some girls try it on a bit, but thats always the case.

One occasion recently I thought I had an agreement on a MMF (90 mins all services) at £150 each...so £300 for 90 mins. Last mninute the girl in question decided it was worth £210 each..£420. We cancelled.

Another punt a girl said it was £40 for A levels, once we had done the deed on round 1, she indicated the management said charge another £40 for A on round2. Now I didnt in fact want more A, preffering to try other things, but I know this was bullshit. The girls decide on the A level charge.

So if you are sensible punting is probably less than it was and you can get great value punts. I think it is likely to remain like this for another year yet. Great provided you are earning well!:eek:

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do you find it more risky?

In short, yes.

Add to that the horror stories and that just puts me off. Would be interesting to know the % of failed agency punts.

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That is a good way to do it, I hate Agencies that take the cut off the girls and they end up making nothing. Good going Divine!

I have only been receptioning again for a week so I haven't seen a pattern yet other then the fact football keeps all the clients away! I have also noticed it's not steady we will be extremely busy for 4 hours and then nothing for another 4 then rushed off our feet again. I love it though I love the adrenaline rush and the need to be constantly on the ball.

I have noticed like you said it is not a case of just opening your legs wang bang casham anymore!! alot more girls offer A-levels and other specialist services, 2 years ago when I was at an agency it was rare to find one girl to offer A-levels now near enough everybody offers it, There is alot of competition and lots of really gorgeous girls!

xx

I agree in part, however if there are days when the girls in any agency are particularly quiet I see no reason why parlour owner and girls couldnt throw in 30 mins for nothing. So normaly lets say £120 for the hour, special means 90 mins for £120 and say £160 for 2 hours.

I cannot believe the girls would prefer to sit around in the kitchin. Longer punts generaly involve the same sex time just more chatting and massage.

I suspect it would fillup quickly. Be great promotion and the take home money would be better for girls and owners. Obviously this is not the case if the girls are already in the room for 5/6 hours a day, but if they are only getting 2/3 hours room time why not.

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I agree in part, however if there are days when the girls in any agency are particularly quiet I see no reason why parlour owner and girls couldnt throw in 30 mins for nothing. So normaly lets say £120 for the hour, special means 90 mins for £120 and say £160 for 2 hours.

I cannot believe the girls would prefer to sit around in the kitchin. Longer punts generaly involve the same sex time just more chatting and massage.

I suspect it would fillup quickly. Be great promotion and the take home money would be better for girls and owners. Obviously this is not the case if the girls are already in the room for 5/6 hours a day, but if they are only getting 2/3 hours room time why not.

I don't think so. :confused:

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Crystal, as Pia says I am quite sure that it is mostly down to the credit crunch which, in its turn has brought about a lot of redundancies. I am retired but my son, who has a degree and a professional qualification, was made redundant 4 months or so ago from his job which was worth nearly £50,000 p.a. He has a young family and a quite large mortgage and was in danger of losing his house. Obviously, as a parent, I have stepped in to assist him financially which, in its turn has meant that I have not been able to afford to see my favourite Lady(who lives in Hemel Hempstead - no prizes for guessing her name:):confused:). There are probably quite a few people in my position.

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I don't think so. :eek:

So you would rather earn nothing between 11am and 2pm on a monday rather than take two 90 min appts where you get £160 and earn £80 for the management, says it all really. Discounts are ok as long as the management takes the full knock, no wonder places are shutting. In every other industry the workers are sharing the pain unless they are in the public sector.:confused::rolleyes:

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Crystal, as Pia says I am quite sure that it is mostly down to the credit crunch which, in its turn has brought about a lot of redundancies. I am retired but my son, who has a degree and a professional qualification, was made redundant 4 months or so ago from his job which was worth nearly £50,000 p.a. He has a young family and a quite large mortgage and was in danger of losing his house. Obviously, as a parent, I have stepped in to assist him financially which, in its turn has meant that I have not been able to afford to see my favourite Lady(who lives in Hemel Hempstead - no prizes for guessing her name:):confused:). There are probably quite a few people in my position.

I know of a few in similar situations. Me for a start and although I can see an end to personal financial restrictions my offspring will continue to have an impact on to what extent I can return to a 'business as usual' situation. The lack of credit facilities goes far beyond housing and holidays, the inability to fund new projects or developments inevitably hits at jobs and general cash circulation etc. Those who can see an end to it all are standing on an enormous mountain of bullshit on which is parked a Jodrell Bank type telescope! It's possible our children will not see the end of today's problems.

I'm at a slight tangent to the thread but I'll still mention that yesterday, two friends with businesses told me their takings were down 40% and 25% respectively, on the previous year. They are both in what I would call non-essential undertakings and might expect to take a hammering in any recession, but I look upon my punting as damned near essential so I will be glad to return to regular habits! :eek: However, along the way some girls and agencies must be taking a financial nosedive so I'm not surprised at any perceived lack of activity.

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I quit one medium end agent because I could no longer afford the comissions, which they upped at the start of the credit crunch. They billed on a weekly basis and their figures began to exceed mine by £10-20 and I figured it was only a matter of time before things got out of hand. I wasn't the only girl who was in this situation, and basically anyone with the brains to go independent did, and the agency was then filled with drunkies and druggies. So basically you got a street girl service with medium end prices.

I hired a second, more expensive agent and did fine for a little while. At the beginning she refused to place pictures on the grounds of privacy and had me talk to the client and describe myself and it worked very well. Then after a couple of months she started baiting and switching and refused to let me talk to clients first. The calls started to dry up as the agency's reputation dwindled.

Luckily I'd set up an indie site part of my way through my time there and managed to amass some decent clientele. I charged the same prices as the expensive agent and did fine, with the added benefit of real pictures and profile content that I'd actually written. Clients all tell me the same thing; that they are happy to pay higher prices if they know that the girl is getting all the money, and that all aspects of the website are accurate.

I think at least one of my old agents will be out of business within a couple of years, maybe both.

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I've looked at a couple of other punter sites (TOPS and AdultWank) over the past few weeks and have started to notice a lot more girls are 'available today'. To be honest I was very surprised to note that two highly respected, very attractive, well reported and reasonably priced escorts have consistantly been 'available today'. If girls of this quality are advertizing availability then I would think some of the 'less desirable' girls must be struggling. Whether any girls will be prepared to admit to this, I dont know.

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Im not the richest guy in the world but I pay £200 to my regular,shes an indie, and I know what Im going to get for my money. When shes been away Ive tried the other end of the market,agencies from cheap upto £200 I cant afford more. I must say Im not impressed,some have been adequate,one or two down right awful,two very good but not gfe which is what I want and two whose agencies mucked me about so much I didnt even get to see the girls.Ive had more success with indies,self employed, customer satisfaction or no customers.But even with indies Ive had two foulups,one who couldnt make it because she had an english lesson( I remember girls in soho used to give you french lessons) the other has very good fr`s ,I liked what I saw so I emailed her 2 weeks before I wanted to see her,I didnt hear anymore from her till the morning I wanted to see her saying she was available,I had made other plans.All the above from last december when I started.If agencies are quieter they need to pull thier fingers out,looking at the experiences Ive had with 2 of them.But I suspect here in London with so many girls thats not going to happen.

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So you would rather earn nothing between 11am and 2pm on a monday rather than take two 90 min appts where you get £160 and earn £80 for the management, says it all really. Discounts are ok as long as the management takes the full knock, no wonder places are shutting. In every other industry the workers are sharing the pain unless they are in the public sector.:confused::rolleyes:

Let me do a poll of the girls tomorrow and see what they say. :eek: I don't work on a Monday though... and I can't see HOD shutting in a hurry. Sharing the pain... is not quite like sharing your fanny for free.

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And incidentally, the fees have stayed the same @ HOD since I started work there over 5years ago, so in reality with inflation and all I think Clients are getting a pretty good deal. Plenty are still happy to pay that VERY reasonable price. I won't work for less than I already get thats it end of. As far as I am aware Punters do not dictate what I am willing to work for I decide that. :confused:

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