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One of the arguments used by people who want to make it illegal to pay for sex is that WGs are often subjected to violent attacks by punters. Is there any evidence to support this argument.

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Errr... yes. Lots of damaged Wg's and some dead ones.

On the other hand, there are thousands of unharmed ones which fucks the argument completely.

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One of the arguments used by people who want to make it illegal to pay for sex is that WGs are often subjected to violent attacks by punters. Is there any evidence to support this argument.

Have a read of the "Dangerous Punters" section of punternet.. It'll probably answer you question....

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there are many women subjected to violent attacks by their husbands so perhaps we should make marriage illegal? thats the same logic

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The English Collective of Prostitutes has loads of info on this

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There is also a lot of violence against Paramedics, Doctors & Nurses - the difference is that the NHS does a lot to protect & assist its attacked employees.

I don't think prohibition is the only way to make women safe, and I suspect it may increase the risks.

I am not comfortable with the idea that violence against women in other contexts, or the fact other women haven't been attacked are being used to dismiss safety concerns.

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I wasn't dismissing safety concerns, simply pointing out that there is always some way to argue your point in your favour.

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I think you'll find the fact that many people think prostitution is illegal, or that parts of it are illegal is actually one of the things that encourages attacks on WGs. Add to this the fact that attackers believe WGs will not go to the police(either because they work illegally, or the possible exposure) and that actually makes them think WGs are an easy target, makes them more vulnerable.

Making it legal for girls to work together, and or debunking the myth that prostitution is illegal (even I've had clients who don't know that it is legal to pay for sex in the UK) would definitely make things safer for WGs. Making it illegal would just make it more likely, in my opinion, that WGs would be the victims of crimes not least for the reason that many more than now would go unreported.

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I think you'll find the fact that many people think prostitution is illegal, or that parts of it are illegal is actually one of the things that encourages attacks on WGs. Add to this the fact that attackers believe WGs will not go to the police(either because they work illegally, or the possible exposure) and that actually makes them think WGs are an easy target, makes them more vulnerable.

Making it legal for girls to work together, and or debunking the myth that prostitution is illegal (even I've had clients who don't know that it is legal to pay for sex in the UK) would definitely make things safer for WGs. Making it illegal would just make it more likely, in my opinion, that WGs would be the victims of crimes not least for the reason that many more than now would go unreported.

Absolutely spot on Strawberry.

A couple of months ago the proprietor of Asian Selection made it quite clear that after two of his wgs were attacked and robbed by an armed thug, he never had any intention of calling the police. This, in spite of the wealth of forensic evidence (semen/ hair/ clothing fibres/ witnesses etc) that would have been left at the scene, plus AS's own phone records from the booking.

Instead, the proprietor sent out a notice telling the girls to be more careful.

Making that statement on a public forum has only increased the likelihood of attacks on girls working for that particular agency.

(see the "Girls Under Attack!" thread)

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One of the arguments used by people who want to make it illegal to pay for sex is that WGs are often subjected to violent attacks by punters. Is there any evidence to support this argument.

GOG you only have to read the papers, the ones that actually make it to the papers that is....!! :(

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... debunking the myth that prostitution is illegal (even I've had clients who don't know that it is legal to pay for sex in the UK) ...

Interesting you should say that - I met a wg last night who thought that I was breaking the law visiting an (independent) prostitute in a hotel room.

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Interesting you should say that - I met a wg last night who thought that I was breaking the law visiting an (independent) prostitute in a hotel room.

Yes, there are a lot of girls who come into this not knowing the legalitities, I've also even heard tales of individual police officers who also don't know the law as regards WGs and the paid for sex scene either.

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Interesting you should say that - I met a wg last night who thought that I was breaking the law visiting an (independent) prostitute in a hotel room.
I have met a number as well. In my view its best to actually find out the law beforehand. I used to work in a field that was highly regulated and before i got involved i found out for myself the ins and outs of the laws and regulations around it. The net makes finding this info out very easy. To be ignorant of the law and indeed believe you are breaking it must be a worry to some WGs which a bit of research could allay. This applies to punters as well, i have met many at parties who think they are breaking the law by being their and punting, in fact its the brothel owner and perhaps others actively helping run it that are breaking the law of course, not the punter unless a WG was proved to be being coreced or been trafficked. Edited by smiths

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One of the arguments used by people who want to make it illegal to pay for sex is that WGs are often subjected to violent attacks by punters. Is there any evidence to support this argument.

Many women are subjected to violent attacks, they don't have to be prostitutes, ever heard of "domestic violence". ???

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this is such a tricky subject, because there is no perfect answer. i am personally against the legalization or prostitution, simply because it hasn't reduced crimes such as sex trafficking in countries where it has become legalized.....infact the legalization actually supports the pimps and the sex trafficking industry by making what they do pretty much legal.

instead of making it legal for the pimps, we should be making it legal for the WGs. so instead of completely legalizing it, the best solution in my eyes would be to decriminalize the act of prostitution. so that WGs and women working the streets are not labeled as criminals. however the selling of these women should still be illegal.

that way all the WGs subjected to violence will feel able to go to the police when they are attacked. currently this is incredibly rare due to the belief that that the authorities will arrest them rather than assist them.

and yes, WGs are subject to a large number of violent attacks. 21.4% of escorts report having been raped at least 10 times (altho this stat was taken in 2003), 8% of street workers have survived an attack where they were stabbed or shot. i did an essay on this at uni. these stats are worse than domestic violence, and in domestic violence, the victim can easily go to the police, which isn't the case here.

on a personal note...i have been attacked many times. never while working as an escort, but while on the street...i'm lucky i came out alive. and while working in brothels, violent sex was common.

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and yes, WGs are subject to a large number of violent attacks. 21.4% of escorts report having been raped at least 10 times (altho this stat was taken in 2003),

Would you mind telling us where you obtained those figures.

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and yes, WGs are subject to a large number of violent attacks. 21.4% of escorts report having been raped at least 10 times (altho this stat was taken in 2003), 8% of street workers have survived an attack where they were stabbed or shot. i did an essay on this at uni. these stats are worse than domestic violence, and in domestic violence, the victim can easily go to the police, which isn't the case here.

Those figures relate to Chicago where prostitution is illegal in all forms and the crime rates are higher than in the UK. They're not really relevant to the UK where prostitution is legal.

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sorry i was raised in the US. but i know violence against sex workers exists here too. you can pretend all you want that it doesn't. but sad reality is it does.

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sorry i was raised in the US. but i know violence against sex workers exists here too. you can pretend all you want that it doesn't. but sad reality is it does.

I know that violence against sex workers exist in the UK. I doubt though that too many of them have been shot.

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I know that violence against sex workers exist in the UK. I doubt though that too many of them have been shot.

so you have to be shot before it's a problem? great.

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Those figures relate to Chicago where prostitution is illegal in all forms and the crime rates are higher than in the UK. They're not really relevant to the UK where prostitution is legal.

Thank you my friend, so not only are the figures 9 years old they are from an American city where postitution is illegal, it was obvious those figures were total nonsense.

You could never get accurate figures anyway because very few girls would want any contact with the police.

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Thank you my friend, so not only are the figures 9 years old they are from an American city where postitution is illegal, it was obvious those figures were total nonsense.

You could never get accurate figures anyway because very few girls would want any contact with the police.

ok then hun. you carry on living in your lovely little bubble. i'm sure it's nice in there :)

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so you have to be shot before it's a problem? great.

No. You're quoting figures from Chicago that have absolurely no relevance to the UK.

I don't believe that over 20% of escorts in the UK have been raped at least 10 times.

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