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How Much Does Location Matter?

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I am an escort based in London and I am currently in the process of flat hunting for somewhere to live and entertain from. Ideally I'd like to be somewhere around Kings Cross or Euston, however I have just seen a property that could be perfect: It's an old building, newly converted into lots of flats, so it has good sound proofing (essential!!!) and lovely period windows.

Internally the flat is done up to a very high spec' and matches the hotel style accommodation feel that I would like to achieve.... it is however closer to Holloway road and Finsbury park than Kings Cross and Euston...although in practical terms it's only a couple of stops on the tube/train from both and it's only just in zone 2. It's also probably easier to park there (or there might even be a car park I'm not sure).

It is undoubtably a larger property than I could afford in Central London however is the area and the fact that is a little off the beaten track a deal breaker? And would you consider upper Holloway/Finsbury Park a dodgy area that you might not want to visit? It's also around a 10 minute walk to the nearest station ....does that bother you? And do you agree or disagree that large apartment blocks are the ideal location for naughty ladies to entertain their gentlemen?

I'd really, really appreciate your advice and opinions, many thanks in advance.

Charlotte

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Location, location, location springs to mind.

10 minutes walk not a problem for me (not much further though), but Holloway Road / Finsbury Park is not an area that I would want to visit when it's dark (apologies to gooners).

Large blocks are OK provided the other residents don't pick up on your naughtiness.

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I'd have thought that a ten minute walk from a station would not deter a keen punter providing the directions are clear. (remember, on his way to a punt the man may not be able to fully concentrate!!) I would not have thought the area you mention particularly dodgy either. The availability of car parking is a fairly important consideration I would have thought though perhaps less so in London as so many are put off driving anywhere near the place. For instance were I to visit you, coming from Hertfordshire I wouldn't think about driving in at all.

Apartment blocks are fine in the main. The entry arrangements need to be such as will not overtax the poor punter's mind since at this stage his nerves/excitement are reaching frenzy level. If it is a large block there will be a greater feeling of anonymity I guess.

You mention the sound proofing and seem to have covered off that issue. I'd just add that depending on the services you provide it might be that for instance the bathroom facilities may require a tweak - I'm thinking particularly if W/S is on offer.

Hope this is helpful and best regards

Uncle Pokey

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Location, location, location springs to mind.

10 minutes walk not a problem for me (not much further though), but Holloway Road / Finsbury Park is not an area that I would want to visit when it's dark (apologies to gooners).

Large blocks are OK provided the other residents don't pick up on your naughtiness.

Kings Cross after dark is equally as iffy as Holloway Road or Finsbury Park though in my experience.

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I am an escort based in London and I am currently in the process of flat hunting for somewhere to live and entertain from. Ideally I'd like to be somewhere around Kings Cross or Euston, however I have just seen a property that could be perfect: It's an old building, newly converted into lots of flats, so it has good sound proofing (essential!!!) and lovely period windows. Internally the flat is done up to a very high spec' and matches the hotel style accommodation feel that I would like to achieve.... it is however closer to Holloway road and Finsbury park than Kings Cross and Euston...although in practical terms it's only a couple of stops on the tube/train from both and it's only just in zone 2. It's also probably easier to park there (or there might even be a car park I'm not sure). It is undoubtably a larger property than I could afford in Central London however is the area and the fact that is a little off the beaten track a deal breaker? And would you consider upper Holloway/Finsbury Park a dodgy area that you might not want to visit? It's also around a 10 minute walk to the nearest station ....does that bother you? And do you agree or disagree that large apartment blocks are the ideal location for naughty ladies to entertain their gentlemen? I'd really, really appreciate your advice and opinions, many thanks in advance. Charlotte

The area wouldnt put me off if i fancy a WG enough, parking is one thing i look for as i always drive when punting and i dont want to be walking half a mile being a lazy bastard to get to her premises. And before anyone mentions it i did get public transport once and i didnt like it so never again if i can help it. Obviously some punters arent driving though so its swings and roundabouts. It helps to be close to the tube and/or bus routes though of course.

Large apartment blocks are ideal as long as the WG is honest, if dodgy they can be dangerous. The lift not working has been the biggest pain in my experience, and the SP being on a high floor.

Speaking to punters over the years at parties and that i know some wouldnt punt in the areas you mention except Euston as they think they are well dodgy areas but i have yet to be attacked in them despite being in them quite a bit over the years so the perception is perhaps worse than the reality. The online police crime map can confirm the present situation. Good luck wherever you decide on. :)

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Kings Cross after dark is equally as iffy as Holloway Road or Finsbury Park though in my experience.

Near KC station, yes, I agree, I'm thinking more of the Bloomsbury part of the area - heading south from Euston.

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Hi Charlotte,

I think you should consider the following:

1). Never gamble more than you can afford to lose. If your Landlord should find out / be informed about your activities, you could lose your home, your working premises, your deposit etc. Spiteful clients & WGs have done that to escorts.

2). Do you really want clients, not all of whom are good, in your home? I don't work from home. My home is my Sanctuary.

3) Could you afford to live in your home if you were not escorting? I have found escorting far less profitable than I thought it would be.

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Hi Charlotte,

I think you should consider the following:

1). Never gamble more than you can afford to lose. If your Landlord should find out / be informed about your activities, you could lose your home, your working premises, your deposit etc. Spiteful clients & WGs have done that to escorts.

2). Do you really want clients, not all of whom are good, in your home? I don't work from home. My home is my Sanctuary.

3) Could you afford to live in your home if you were not escorting? I have found escorting far less profitable than I thought it would be.

the above makes a lot of sense.

I only know two girls who do incalls in their home-premise, and both are ex-tre-me-ly careful befor inviting anyone in.

Possibly a Better strategy is this (from one of my near-regulars, a rather active girl in the north...):

Rent a different appartment for work very 6-12 months.

Leave any premise before you get outed by accident or by some grudgeing person from the scene (that risk is huge, at least it was in Leeds and Newcastle from what I heard and sensed, admittingly, the risk of jealousy could be less in London, and less if you keep a low profile, both on boards and in gossipy circles, but higher if you get a lot of custom ..).

When you leave an apartment, ask for reference from the agent, and use the references to rent the next.

that way you can easily move about.

I think most of UK cities have plenty of rental space available so you should be ok for a while.

As for locations in (central london) anything near a tube is good for me.

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Location, location, location springs to mind.

10 minutes walk not a problem for me (not much further though), but Holloway Road / Finsbury Park is not an area that I would want to visit when it's dark (apologies to gooners).

Large blocks are OK provided the other residents don't pick up on your naughtiness.

Thanks, I did wonder whether people might worry about visiting after dark, you have confirmed this - and it's good to know, thank you,

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I'd have thought that a ten minute walk from a station would not deter a keen punter providing the directions are clear. (remember, on his way to a punt the man may not be able to fully concentrate!!) I would not have thought the area you mention particularly dodgy either. The availability of car parking is a fairly important consideration I would have thought though perhaps less so in London as so many are put off driving anywhere near the place. For instance were I to visit you, coming from Hertfordshire I wouldn't think about driving in at all.

Apartment blocks are fine in the main. The entry arrangements need to be such as will not overtax the poor punter's mind since at this stage his nerves/excitement are reaching frenzy level. If it is a large block there will be a greater feeling of anonymity I guess.

You mention the sound proofing and seem to have covered off that issue. I'd just add that depending on the services you provide it might be that for instance the bathroom facilities may require a tweak - I'm thinking particularly if W/S is on offer.

Hope this is helpful and best regards

Uncle Pokey

Thank you Uncle Pokey :) All useful comments. I did offer W/S for a little while but I found that trying to wee when that area is all tense and excited is rather difficult!

Best wishes,

Charlotte

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The area wouldnt put me off if i fancy a WG enough, parking is one thing i look for as i always drive when punting and i dont want to be walking half a mile being a lazy bastard to get to her premises. And before anyone mentions it i did get public transport once and i didnt like it so never again if i can help it. Obviously some punters arent driving though so its swings and roundabouts. It helps to be close to the tube and/or bus routes though of course.

Large apartment blocks are ideal as long as the WG is honest, if dodgy they can be dangerous. The lift not working has been the biggest pain in my experience, and the SP being on a high floor.

Speaking to punters over the years at parties and that i know some wouldnt punt in the areas you mention except Euston as they think they are well dodgy areas but i have yet to be attacked in them despite being in them quite a bit over the years so the perception is perhaps worse than the reality. The online police crime map can confirm the present situation. Good luck wherever you decide on. :)

Great, so I should keep parking in mind - I don't drive so it's not something I'd consider.

I am honest so no worries there. Walking up tons of flights is quite a turn off I'd imagine!

Thanks for the heads up on areas - I love Kings Cross, I find it really exciting now the regeneration is under way and there are some really nice places to go out, so I would never have thought of it as a dodgy area - it's extremely useful to know that some people don't share my opinion! I had a feeling I might be pushing it with Finsbury Park though!

Out of interest; what are peoples opinions on these areas?

Tower Bridge

Shoreditch

Borough

Aldgate East

Hoxton

Thanks again, C :)

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Hi Charlotte,

I think you should consider the following:

1). Never gamble more than you can afford to lose. If your Landlord should find out / be informed about your activities, you could lose your home, your working premises, your deposit etc. Spiteful clients & WGs have done that to escorts.

2). Do you really want clients, not all of whom are good, in your home? I don't work from home. My home is my Sanctuary.

3) Could you afford to live in your home if you were not escorting? I have found escorting far less profitable than I thought it would be.

Hi Lara,

Many thanks for your consideration, I appreciate that you have my best interests at heart.

1). Never gamble more than you can afford to lose. If your Landlord should find out / be informed about your activities, you could lose your home, your working premises, your deposit etc. Spiteful clients & WGs have done that to escorts.

If this happens it happens, I'll just get another flat no big deal! I can afford to loose a rented flat, I'd rather it didn't happen and it would be annoying but I'd it comes with the vocation that I have chosen and I am very happy with

2). Do you really want clients, not all of whom are good, in your home? I don't work from home. My home is my Sanctuary.

I genuinely like and enjoy my time with my clients and I would be more than happy to share my home with them. However I am quite particular about who I see; it very much depends on how they approach me, how they come across on email and/or the phone, what their 'other site' feedback says if they have any and what they would like to get up to - I won't do things that I don't enjoy.

I will say no if some thing doesn't feel right, for their sake and mine and even if I am wrong and they are a perfectly decent human being (which in my experience most people are) the fact that I don't feel comfortable means that I would not be providing the right atmosphere for an experience that will leave my client walking away with a great big smile on his face, which is what I want more than anything.

It worries me that you would see clients that you think are dodgy, please don't! Life's too short to put yourself through that xx

3) Could you afford to live in your home if you were not escorting? I have found escorting far less profitable than I thought it would be.

If I were to stop escorting I'd move! Rental contracts in my experience aren't that hard to negotiate out of - if you can't afford the rent you can't afford the rent, so landlords are generally quite keen to get you out quickly, as long as you are honest and don't allow yourself to get into rent arrears it doesn't tend to be a problem.

My weekly hotel bill more than covers my budget for renting a property. I also waste a huge amount of time online finding the best deals, in the best locations for the best hotels. I want the best for my clients but I'd rather just provide it all in one place rather than all around London! I also miss out on a lot of short notice business, which is a shame as I really love seeing men when the are so horny they couldn't possibly wait more than an hour or two to give me a good seeing too! :D :D :D :D :D

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the above makes a lot of sense.

I only know two girls who do incalls in their home-premise, and both are ex-tre-me-ly careful befor inviting anyone in.

Possibly a Better strategy is this (from one of my near-regulars, a rather active girl in the north...):

Rent a different appartment for work very 6-12 months.

Leave any premise before you get outed by accident or by some grudgeing person from the scene (that risk is huge, at least it was in Leeds and Newcastle from what I heard and sensed, admittingly, the risk of jealousy could be less in London, and less if you keep a low profile, both on boards and in gossipy circles, but higher if you get a lot of custom ..).

When you leave an apartment, ask for reference from the agent, and use the references to rent the next.

that way you can easily move about.

I think most of UK cities have plenty of rental space available so you should be ok for a while.

As for locations in (central london) anything near a tube is good for me.

Hi!

Thank you for your advice.

Maybe it's different in Leeds and Newcastle, he working girls that I am lucky enough to count as friends are some of the loveliest, most decent people that I have ever met. As for a client doing that to me, well there is always that risk I guess but I'll have to take it.

I think your regulars strategy of renting different apartments is very sensible, especially as things seem to be so much more bitchy up there. I can't imagine 'outing' a fellow WG even if they were earning tons more money, there are always ways of increasing business without resorting to such vile tactics....!!

I'll definitely be asking for references next time I move, it does make things a lot easier you are right. There is lots on the market to rent in London, it's just finding the right one! And near the tube is always good.

C xx

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Great, so I should keep parking in mind - I don't drive so it's not something I'd consider.

I am honest so no worries there. Walking up tons of flights is quite a turn off I'd imagine!

Thanks for the heads up on areas - I love Kings Cross, I find it really exciting now the regeneration is under way and there are some really nice places to go out, so I would never have thought of it as a dodgy area - it's extremely useful to know that some people don't share my opinion! I had a feeling I might be pushing it with Finsbury Park though!

Out of interest; what are peoples opinions on these areas?

Tower Bridge

Shoreditch

Borough

Aldgate East

Hoxton

Thanks again, C :)

I'll have no problems visiting in the areas you've listed. 99% of my punts are in the evenings and I almost always use my car when visiting. This is why I always ask for the postcode beforehand so as to scan the area for potential parking spaces.

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Great, so I should keep parking in mind - I don't drive so it's not something I'd consider.

I am honest so no worries there. Walking up tons of flights is quite a turn off I'd imagine!

Thanks for the heads up on areas - I love Kings Cross, I find it really exciting now the regeneration is under way and there are some really nice places to go out, so I would never have thought of it as a dodgy area - it's extremely useful to know that some people don't share my opinion! I had a feeling I might be pushing it with Finsbury Park though!

Out of interest; what are peoples opinions on these areas?

Tower Bridge

Shoreditch

Borough

Aldgate East

Hoxton

Thanks again, C :)

As someone who visits people at home in some of these areas, I am only too aware how 'mixed' they can be! Streetview is my friend! I would suggest that clear details are given in any advertising, stressing the fact it is a new development of high quality apartments with secure discreet access (or whatever accurately describes the situation). It might also be worth driving round any prospective area late at night or, and I wouldn't do this alone, walk round and try and see it from the punters perspective.

I live in what most people would describe as an overall rough area. My street is lovely as no bombs fell there but the surrounding area has a poor reputation. But because I live there and know it well, have no fears when out and about late at night. Strangely, I probably wouldn't visit many of the places on your list after dark on my own. It is all about the comfort zone and the bigger you can make it, the more people will fall into it. Of course this is a trade off against your own security and need for discretion, which is a judgement for you alone.

Hope wherever you decide on works well for you.

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Thanks, great and much appreciated advice :)

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I'll have no problems visiting in the areas you've listed. 99% of my punts are in the evenings and I almost always use my car when visiting. This is why I always ask for the postcode beforehand so as to scan the area for potential parking spaces.

Thank you, that's really good to know :)

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Mostly its access and egress, and the anonymity that they offer. In a very residential area, you can be sure someone will notice your coming and going. In a busier location there is less recognition.

Obviously on the first visit, a run down area may suggest a poor experience. But it will all seem quite different thereafter, assuming the punt to be worthy of the adventure.

Getting to the location needs to be stress free. local traffic and parking has to be favourable for drivers. For the public transport user, it needs to be a minor diversion on route, not a major change in direction or location.

However a new location is more favourable to new customers. You may see less of your established customers.

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A lot for me. I don't punt outside of London, and then I like places that have good underground connections and not too far from the centre. Discreet entrance very important.

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One of my favourite haunts used to be a flat that was over a block of shops, reached from an alley that ran along the back - OK during daylight hours but no way would I have gone there in the dark. The entrance wasn't terribly discreet and the iron gate on the door was a bit of a give away too, but I never had any problems.

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I've had some fantastic punts in some truly shabby and unwelcoming parts of London and some fantastic punts in some of the Capitals more upmarket areas.

The same goes for bad punts too, quality of girl and service, in my experience at least, has little bearing on which part of the city she operates out of (with the one exception of the Soho Walkup which are almost universally situated within hideous, dirty, reeking and busy surroundings and are pretty wretched, clock watching, get you out asap operations in my experience)

So for me, the type of dwelling a girl operates out of is unimportant, the size of the flat is important, particularly the bathroom as I like to start with a shared shower, but a reasonably central location, easy to get to and ideally not more than a 5 minute walk from the tube station (or easily, inexpensively and quickly reached by cab) are the most important factors.

I've luckily never suffered any personal safety issues travelling to punts in undesirable parts of London, most likely because I'm tall and big build and look like I can take care of myself (I look like Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson according to one wg :ph34r: )

If a favourite regular did move to a more inconvenient location then the frequency with which I booked her would definitely diminish as my punting strategy with regulars is very spontaneous and unpredictable, but does usually involve a last minute phone call from somewhere within central London at around 2am-5am

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One of my favourite haunts used to be a flat that was over a block of shops, reached from an alley that ran along the back - OK during daylight hours but no way would I have gone there in the dark. The entrance wasn't terribly discreet and the iron gate on the door was a bit of a give away too, but I never had any problems.

Sounds very familiar, if its the same North London flat i never had any problems day or when dark.

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I've had some fantastic punts in some truly shabby and unwelcoming parts of London and some fantastic punts in some of the Capitals more upmarket areas. The same goes for bad punts too, quality of girl and service, in my experience at least, has little bearing on which part of the city she operates out of (with the one exception of the Soho Walkup which are almost universally situated within hideous, dirty, reeking and busy surroundings and are pretty wretched, clock watching, get you out asap operations in my experience) So for me, the type of dwelling a girl operates out of is unimportant, the size of the flat is important, particularly the bathroom as I like to start with a shared shower, but a reasonably central location, easy to get to and ideally not more than a 5 minute walk from the tube station (or easily, inexpensively and quickly reached by cab) are the most important factors. I've luckily never suffered any personal safety issues travelling to punts in undesirable parts of London, most likely because I'm tall and big build and look like I can take care of myself (I look like Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson according to one wg :ph34r: ) If a favourite regular did move to a more inconvenient location then the frequency with which I booked her would definitely diminish as my punting strategy with regulars is very spontaneous and unpredictable, but does usually involve a last minute phone call from somewhere within central London at around 2am-5am

My experiences too. The area a WG works out of is neither here nor there to the service she offers, that is 100% down to her own attitude. Personally i have no interest in paying a premium for a so called swanky premises, its not relevant to me because for the hour i am their its not the premises that interest me. As long as its clean, i feel safe and it has a shower/bath and a bed thats sufficient to me.

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An ideal location would be a five minute walk from the London underground preferably with some way to park, either a private car park or street meters, very few areas would put me off --------------- apart from Hackney or Dalston.

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