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Photoshopping - Bad For Business?

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Dont know about others, but photoshopping puts me off a girl, however attractive she might actually be. The trend towards manipulating photographs seems to have gone out of control... A bit of advice for girls and agencies - if you/the girl is attractive dont bother with the photoshopping because it might be counterproductive for business...

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For me there's nothing worse than professional / photo shopped pictures. While they are very nice to look at I would much rather see an accurate reflection of the lady I'd like to meet.

What I like to see are non professional pictures including a face shot . All these nude / pornographic shots do nothing for me. I'd much prefer to see her in some nice lingerie or sexy dresses.

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I agree with it for the use of removing things like identifiable tattoos etc.

But when used to enhance a girls looks it is eventually self defeating.

IMO

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Dont know about others, but photoshopping puts me off a girl, however attractive she might actually be. The trend towards manipulating photographs seems to have gone out of control... A bit of advice for girls and agencies - if you/the girl is attractive dont bother with the photoshopping because it might be counterproductive for business...

I certainly prefer non-photoshopped pictures but even some otherwise good SPs use photoshopping, its endemic in punting and a consequence of absolutely no regulation in my view.

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Sure but it may become self-regulating if people end up avoiding photo-shopped girls... Anyway why would you photoshop a very attractive girl... Pointless and counterproductive

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Some photographers offering services to WGs actually specify they'll provide photoshopped images, some heavily. I personally avoid the photoshopped look, and my tog is instructed to use it only minimally to remove indentifying marks or the occasional blemish. PS is useful for shadows, reflections etc which detract from the image and I'm also sure most ladies have awoken the morning of a photoshoot to find a rogue blemish, or in my case the odd small bruise from one of my several sporting exploits.

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I think that photoshopping has it's place in terms of removing the odd spot- I admit I have done it, but I refuse to let anyone manipulate my image out of recognition- I would feel so uneasy each time a man came to visit if I knew he was expecting a thinner/smoother/prettier girl.

One photographer wanted to airbrush out the birthmark I have on my hand and I wouldn't let him- I mean if a man is so shallow he wouldn't see me because of that then I don't want him as a client!

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Sure but it may become self-regulating if people end up avoiding photo-shopped girls.

Trouble is that, unless you are an expert digital editor and can spot the signs yourself, the first Joe Punter knows that a photo has been photoshopped is when he turns up to find the svelte, 23 year old blonde he thought he had booked is 2 stone heavier and 10 years older than he expected.

I agree it is poor practice though.

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Sure but it may become self-regulating if people end up avoiding photo-shopped girls... Anyway why would you photoshop a very attractive girl... Pointless and counterproductive

More chance of me being run over in the next 5 minutes despite being indoors than photoshopping stopping in my opinion. Some punters either dont care or dont realize.

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Dont know about others, but photoshopping puts me off a girl, however attractive she might actually be. The trend towards manipulating photographs seems to have gone out of control... A bit of advice for girls and agencies - if you/the girl is attractive dont bother with the photoshopping because it might be counterproductive for business...

The problem there is that if one uses it, so will the others as they won't want to feel the competition has the advantage for pulling in the clients. Then it becomes a question of how much they use it and what they use it for. You have to remember that the camera does not always show a person at their best due to lighting as well as incorrect or limited choice of lense focal length at the wrong distance which can distort perspective. A poor quality camera will not render colours correctly making some look too pale or black people too dark. If used to correct this type of error then I think it's reasonable and acceptable. I also deem it okay for removing some minor skin blemishes.

But where it is used to enlarge boobs, tuck in the waistline, lengthen legs, make big arses look small and flat arses look more shapely, change hair colour, remove stretch marks, excessively lighten dark skin, remove lots of tattoos and even alter facial features, then that is totally unaceptable and counter productive IMO.

So for me there is a place for photoshop but only when used responsibly.

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You only have to look at a Macdonalds advert to see examples of how misleading photos are used in the mainstream. Doesn't make it right though. I once complained about being misled by a Subway advertisement. After avoiding the place for years due to being underwhelmed by their products, I was lured into trying a particular new sandwich of theirs by a TV advert which depicted something full of juicy salad, tasty sauce and fresh chicken. What I got was not this, and so I complained and never returned even though I was given a voucher as compensation (I simply know their whole range is very processed and not for me!).

I totally agree, but would you say it justifies its use in every sector of business? As with most things I think it's a question of to what degree it is used and how. One thing we can be sure of though, it's here to stay.

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I totally agree, but would you say it justifies its use in every sector of business? As with most things I think it's a question of to what degree it is used and how. One thing we can be sure of though, it's here to stay.

I did say "Doesn't make it right" in my post. Looking for a new house I became disillusioned with cleverly taken photos, felt like I was having my time utterly wasted. I have also had clients tell me they've seen ladies who do not use representative photos, and sometimes photos that weren't even of the girl herself. Can be frustrating because in this business photos attract, and often guys will obviously go for the girl who looks the most attractive. They turn up only to be disappointed, and then become suspicious of all other girls as a result. Makes it hard work for everyone concerned.

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Dont know about others, but photoshopping puts me off a girl, however attractive she might actually be. The trend towards manipulating photographs seems to have gone out of control... A bit of advice for girls and agencies - if you/the girl is attractive dont bother with the photoshopping because it might be counterproductive for business...

Could not agree more!

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I did say "Doesn't make it right" in my post. Looking for a new house I became disillusioned with cleverly taken photos, felt like I was having my time utterly wasted. I have also had clients tell me they've seen ladies who do not use representative photos, and sometimes photos that weren't even of the girl herself. Can be frustrating because in this business photos attract, and often guys will obviously go for the girl who looks the most attractive. They turn up only to be disappointed, and then become suspicious of all other girls as a result. Makes it hard work for everyone concerned.

I think most people accept that a little enhancement is inevitable though and will or at least should allow for it. There was this one ocassion when I booked a girl whose photos looked a bit overly photoshopped but I just thought what the hell and went ahead anyway. When I arrived I was completely gobsmacked by the fact that actually looked even better than depicted in her photos.

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I too see it as a self defeating exercise, though it is justifiable in obscuring the real identity of a lady.

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Photoshop = No way in hell.

I like natural girls.

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I have just deleted 21 posts from this thread.

If members really cannot be civil to each other, may I suggest they utilise the 'ignore' function.

To those who may have made salient points, but have quoted part of the argument I deleted in their posts, I apologise.

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I've done numerous photos sets for escorts over the years. I have tidied up the background, adjusted the lighting and taken out the odd spot etc. The main thing I do is to soften or fudge the face so the girl cannot be recognised as that is usually the girl's main priority.

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I too see it as a self defeating exercise, though it is justifiable in obscuring the real identity of a lady.

Absolutely true. I stopped using the £150-£200/hr EE Agencies in London 2 years ago because I no longer trust any of the photos on their websites.

However, I do understand and quite like 'fuzzy face syndrome' especially for British / English speaking escorts who clearly just wish to retain their anonymity.

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Absolutely true. I stopped using the £150-£200/hr EE Agencies in London 2 years ago because I no longer trust any of the photos on their websites.

However, I do understand and quite like 'fuzzy face syndrome' especially for British / English speaking escorts who clearly just wish to retain their anonymity.

Its not just EE agencies. I would say that almost ALL agencies in London (and majority of agencies in other areas) use photoshopped pictures.

When OP mentioned "photoshopping", I don't think he meant blurring the face or removing the odd blemish/tattoo, or change the background. That is perfectly acceptable.

What he meant: its what Spookseybrows described in his post No 10.

where it is used to enlarge boobs, tuck in the waistline, lengthen legs, make big arses look small and flat arses look more shapely, change hair colour, remove stretch marks, excessively lighten dark skin, remove lots of tattoos and even alter facial features, then that is totally unacceptable and counter productive IMO.

The problem is: once the core of the main agencies start to put heavily photoshopped pictures (even when some girls in the stable does not need it), all the rest of agencies need to follow to compete.

As Kantos Kan said above: average Joe the Punter, not going to have an idea. If some agencies/or indies did not: then proper authentic non photoshoped photos of the girls, would look like an amateur " readers wifes" kind of pictures, in comparison with Photoshop polished images of hookers on so called "high class agancies"

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The problem there is that if one uses it, so will the others as they won't want to feel the competition has the advantage for pulling in the clients. Then it becomes a question of how much they use it and what they use it for. You have to remember that the camera does not always show a person at their best due to lighting as well as incorrect or limited choice of lense focal length at the wrong distance which can distort perspective. A poor quality camera will not render colours correctly making some look too pale or black people too dark. If used to correct this type of error then I think it's reasonable and acceptable. I also deem it okay for removing some minor skin blemishes.

But where it is used to enlarge boobs, tuck in the waistline, lengthen legs, make big arses look small and flat arses look more shapely, change hair colour, remove stretch marks, excessively lighten dark skin, remove lots of tattoos and even alter facial features, then that is totally unaceptable and counter productive IMO.

So for me there is a place for photoshop but only when used responsibly.

Knowing FRs are a tiny percentage of punting and some read like horror stories but dick still seems to be in whilst wit it out. Even from a grotty, none shopped add with broken English you can find - "... . Twas a dark alley strewn with needles and other heroin paraphinalia. The children roaming idley around the no go estate brandished sticks dottled with nails. It eventually became apparent they were not heading for cubs group. Entered a dark stairwell and was greeted by a 6'9'' bloke who grunted to enter the premises ... . " Are you really suprised photoshopping still reels them in ?

Sorry, forgot to mention he ended up being ripped off from anything from £60 to £130. Quelle suprise - if you pardon me French.

Edited by Melanieabz

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Its not just EE agencies. I would say that almost ALL agencies in London (and majority of agencies in other areas) use photoshopped pictures.

When OP mentioned "photoshopping", I don't think he meant blurring the face or removing the odd blemish/tattoo, or change the background. That is perfectly acceptable.

What he meant: its what Spookseybrows described in his post No 10.

The problem is: once the core of the main agencies start to put heavily photoshopped pictures (even when some girls in the stable does not need it), all the rest of agencies need to follow to compete.

As Kantos Kan said above: average Joe the Punter, not going to have an idea. If some agencies/or indies did not: then proper authentic non photoshoped photos of the girls, would look like an amateur " readers wifes" kind of pictures, in comparison with Photoshop polished images of hookers on so called "high class agancies"

I'd noticed a correlation between 'high class' agencies and a high use of excessive photoshopping. Do the girls really look like their photos?or are they normal, but attractive women like the rest of us?

Edited by Strawberry

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Lighting does far more to "lighten" a dark woman's skin, than Photoshop. Talk to any cameraman or woman. Take a photo of an ordinary group of young Londoners & you'll see.

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When I was a lad ......................... it was called air-brushing and was quite common. Of course, one of the reasons was because it was illegal to show some of the naughty bits. Warped my view of what ladies really looked like for years!!.....

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Xenia made a good point, we are also exposed to heavily retouched images in all the magazines and would expect someone we are paying to have sex with to be beautiful and sexy and glamorous. Also the modern camera is very cruel and exposes and exaggerates every tiny flaw. Witness the heavy and extremely skilled makeup all the female presenters and actresses wear on HD TV. In real life the human eye is not as critical especially when you are horny and presented with a real live smiling human female. So when I take escort pix I always employ a little photoshop, first to correct the image technically and second to make her look more like what the punter will see. I certainly don't want to book a girl that looks unkempt and frankly not as attractive as many girls I pass on the street. A little photoshopping makes a girl sparkle and look clean and as if she cares about her appearance and is serious about her profession.

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