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Patience Offered?

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I find it disappointing that when a newbie punter joins on here and posts a thread up asking for help sometimes they are told off by other members for not doing any research. Does it not occur to them that some newbies have no or little idea about what doing their research involves and this is the time to advise them rather than tell them off?

I was speaking to one such newbie recently, he has been put off of posting again on here because he was so upset by the response he got to a post asking for help. I really think giving these posters advice and appreciating some are looking to learn even the basics is very important and patience afforded to them.

Personally i want to see such punters helped and encouraged so they get the best out of their punting.

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When I first started punting I didn't know about sites like punternet to start with, and was quite naive on the whole. If I had found this site earlier I wouldn't have the wealth of knowledge ( a lot learnt through trial & error ) that I do now, so may well have posted some questions that seemed silly to more experienced punters.

If I can save just one person from making some of the school boy errors that I did that'll make me feel all fuzzy inside :D

We all have to start somewhere.

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good post mate, this can be a pretty intimidating place for the uninitiated and there seem to be all kinds of taboos/ an implicit mindset of 'mind your p's and q's around here or someone will jump down your throat (or at the very least receive a snarky comment)'. and that's not even taking into account the regular posters whose, shall we say, agendas clash, and heaven help an unsuspecting new poster walking into the middle of one of their hissing contests.

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This is actually a very polite and nice forum compared to another (non punting) one I frequent!

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I plead guilty to having been critical in the past, just as Smiths points out. I hope that I have become more tolerant but it still gets me when a first post is a question like "Where can I find a girl with huge breasts?"

If that is a first post then the guy needs to be shown where to do his research, and i hope I do that now rather than simply be critical.

However, sometimes my impatience gets the better of me. I will try harder.

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Smiths: at least you could tell what an inquiry from the new member you posting about, and people might reply why he got an unhelpful responses.

I do agree with Paul Porker: that threads like: "Best anal in Ramsbottom for a huge dick", or "looking for no hold BJ in Cokermouth" not going to get any proper responses. If so called "newbies" managed to find this website, and providing that they got an IQ more then a room temperature, they are perfectly capable to search previous threads, FRs, other forums, etc.

As I said before: it depends what they query is, and I do agree to Tomler, that posting for a first time can be daunting for some, but simple lasiness in the most basic research which are already available are not excusable.

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I find it disappointing that when a newbie punter joins on here and posts a thread up asking for help sometimes they are told off by other members for not doing any research. Does it not occur to them that some newbies have no or little idea about what doing their research involves and this is the time to advise them rather than tell them off?

I was speaking to one such newbie recently, he has been put off of posting again on here because he was so upset by the response he got to a post asking for help. I really think giving these posters advice and appreciating some are looking to learn even the basics is very important and patience afforded to them.

Personally i want to see such punters helped and encouraged so they get the best out of their punting.

Well said, when I first joined this site the arrogance of some of the established members was a bit breath taking.

Over the past year, there have been loads of topics that have been raised and answered sometime in the past, but people still reply and add to the topics. I get a bit frustrated at the repitition, but its obviously new to some members.

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Well, there are 92 pages available on the UK and Ireland General discussion. And say 50 or so posts on each page. How many is the newbie expected to trawl through, before he just asks his question? Sometimes when you are just starting something, what appears obvious and easy to find out to an experienced person, is a mystery to the novice.

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There is a Search Facility that works rather well with Keywords.

I believe that people who won't use their initiative & search become high-maintenance clients. I think a faceless web-forum telling them to fix up is preferable to the fragile male ego to an escort telling them to naff off.

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This is actually a very polite and nice forum compared to another (non punting) one I frequent!

I used to go on one forum where it would kick off every day with the same old usual suspects typing away at each other.

I would usually stay well clear but one day I decide to get stuck in.

It ended up with me and about six others getting a warning and a moderator on that forum getting himself banned.

It was sort of fun though...... :)

I think the thing is that it can be a little bit annoying when new ones who have not established a forum presence ask away about stuff straight away.

Not all want to use a sex site forum for a bit of banter and expressing an opinion on what ever topic takes their fancy though.

We have to be mindful of that.

Some will never join up but read away to hearts content.

Then one day they may join to ask a question and as they have been reading the forum boards for a while and want a bit of advice.

We all use forum boards in our own little way.

Lucy :)

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Well, there are 92 pages available on the UK and Ireland General discussion. And say 50 or so posts on each page. How many is the newbie expected to trawl through, before he just asks his question? Sometimes when you are just starting something, what appears obvious and easy to find out to an experienced person, is a mystery to the novice.

Guys ought to be able to read or skim the top 2 pages of a thread before jumping in. Also use the search at top right.

My major beef is guys who do not search the field reports and ask "Who should I see in Birmingham?". They deserve short shrift in my view, but as I am now being more patient I try to point them in the direction of FRs.

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Guys ought to be able to read or skim the top 2 pages of a thread before jumping in. Also use the search at top right.

My major beef is guys who do not search the field reports and ask "Who should I see in Birmingham?". They deserve short shrift in my view, but as I am now being more patient I try to point them in the direction of FRs.

See "Girl with Anal Speciality in London" on the requests section for a perfect example of a guy who has no idea of where to look, how to look or even have a browse around the site before asking.

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Perhaps our motto should be "there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers".

I'm new to the forum, but not new to paid sex. I lurked for quite a few weeks after discovering the site before joining, partly because I wanted to get the "vibe" of the place and partly because of the phenomenon that smiths - of the frighteningly high post count -observes above. This place can be a little scary for the new joiner, I can only imagine how difficult someone new to punting finds it if his maiden post is either ignored or, even worse, ripped apart.

Of course some posters do just ask for it sometimes (why does London07's name spring to mind when I write this?), so I'd hate for the whole place to descend into a haze of pink and fluffy-ness and become one great love-in.

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I.............so I'd hate for the whole place to descend into a haze of pink and fluffy-ness and become one great love-in.

What's wrong with a love in?

What's wrong with fluffy pink things?

I am dead good at fluffing pink things ;)

Lucy :)

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When you are a new punter you don't know what help and advice you need until you read it. The amount of times I read threads on this forum and learned valuable information was countless. I learned things I'd never even thought about even though a lot of them were simple basics to the more experienced of you.

Yes the threads asking for big boobs in England, best anal down south etc... are pointless as the search / fr functions should be the first port of call. I suspect they aren't genuine punters as a genuine punter would likely be more polite and give a lot more info about what they are looking for, where they are etc...

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I used to go on one forum where it would kick off every day with the same old usual suspects typing away at each other.

I would usually stay well clear but one day I decide to get stuck in.

It ended up with me and about six others getting a warning and a moderator on that forum getting himself banned.

It was sort of fun though...... :)

It almost sounds like we're talking about the same forum!

The one I use has quite a few posters on it who are proud of how nasty they can be to lots of people, but usually in a highly amusing way

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As a newbie to this forum, yes it can be indimidating when starting out, and I'll admit to some trepidation when clicking that "Post" button! However, I've had a lot of experience of forums in the past (including being a mod on 3, and the founder and admin of one), and these things crop up everywhere. There's always a certain etiquette in each forum, but each is slightly different from what I've seen. I spent a long time here as a lurker before deciding to join up, so I'd gotten a pretty good feel for the place, and that usually makes the difference between new members that fit in, and those that start lots of new threads - those willing to put the time in, will get a better experience.

As a poster, if I had a question I'd have a quick search with relevant keywords, and also skim through relevant areas to see if an existing thread seemed to be an appropriate place to comment. Then there's the connundrum - yes it has been discussed before, so do I add to that, or as it was 1/3/6 weeks/months ago, is it better to start a new thread, rather than drag up old threads. Different places prefer different tactics, and there's no particularly 'right' way to my mind.

Every forum has it's friendly members, and also those who will jump on newbies, and some who are just hostile. Much the same as the real world really. For what it's worth, this is one of the friendlier ones that I've been a member of recently. And it's not just the normal members that can be a problem - on the forum I started I had to ban half my moderators on one eventful day, after they started attacking each other on the forum! Being a mod or admin can be very rewarding, or a terrible chore, and keeping a board under control and friendly can be a challenging task.

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I can only imagine how difficult someone new to punting finds it if his maiden post is either ignored or, even worse, ripped apart.

Unfortunately, because of the way the forum works, it is easy for posts from newbies to drop off the radar without that meaning they are being deliberately ignored: all new members go into pre-mod and their posts or topics don't appear until they have been approved but when they do appear it is in the place on the list where they would have been had they appeared as soon as they were posted, so someone might post at midnight but their post not appear until next morning and then will be a long way down the page and easy to miss.

Edited by DanLeno

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It's an endemic talkboard problem, not just confined to PN. People behave differently on the internet to the way they would in real life. I got slaughtered when I first came here and I still get occasional threatening PMs from some abusive sock-puppet. Just ignore the bullies and carry on. It's all you can do.

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Well said, Smiths!! We all (SP's and Punters alike) have to start somewhere when searching for information, and what better place than here?

As for folk registering and asking questions straight away... what's wrong with that? Isn't their asking/seeking info the very reason that they'll register here in the first place?

It's like going onto that 'unmentionable' place and punters being refused a booking, just because they have '0' (zero) feedback.... So what if they do? Even SP's had a '0' feedback when they first started. How would they feel if no-one wanted to book THEM because of it?

Just saying, like ^_^

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Unfortunately, because of the way the forum works, it is easy for posts from newbies to drop off the radar without that meaning they are being deliberately ignored: all new members go into pre-mod and their posts or topics don't appear until they have been approved but when they do appear it is in the place on the list where they would have been had they appeared as soon as they were posted, so someone might post at midnight but their post not appear until next morning and then will be a long way down the page and easy to miss.

True - I got very confused in a thread the other day because of this. I can understand some of the reasons for using this system, but it certainly doesn't help you to fit in when your posts are turning up at random times after you've posted them.

Edited by thescribbler

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I find it disappointing that when a newbie punter joins on here and posts a thread up asking for help sometimes they are told off by other members for not doing any research. Does it not occur to them that some newbies have no or little idea about what doing their research involves and this is the time to advise them rather than tell them off?

I was speaking to one such newbie recently, he has been put off of posting again on here because he was so upset by the response he got to a post asking for help. I really think giving these posters advice and appreciating some are looking to learn even the basics is very important and patience afforded to them.

Personally i want to see such punters helped and encouraged so they get the best out of their punting.

I admit when I first joined pnet I got flamed for daring to call a WG a courtesan. Flamed by the Divines and Madam Becky cos none of the WGs in MK did FK at the time...

But seemed to fade....

BUT....I'll put this out there..

There seems to be, in the last year, an strong increase in tension and aggression appearing in punting forums......

I've been punting since 2002, posting since about 2007/2008 but the last year or so Ive noticed a strange twist in the wind.

Any new poster is looked on with suspicion of as troller, or WG cheerleading herself, or someone wanting to stir up shit....

The gap between Punters and WG/Service providers seems to be widening (and forums like UKPunting and Dasisterhood only fuels that divide).

There seems to be an almost "cold war" emerging between the two....

I havent posted much since the new year.... only when Im drunk if Im honest, (yes Im plastered now) as Ive been getting peed off with postings more than Id like

as a knock on effect, I havent really punted much either this year, Only 7 punts and only 3 WGs...... just incase I get a "you posted a,," rant at me....

Have noticed a strange rise in the number of dissapointment FR and rant threads.....

I'll say it, personally, the punting hobby seems to not be as good and fun as it was...........

Edited by Overworked

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I admit when I first joined pnet I got flamed for daring to call a WG a courtesan. Flamed by the Divines and Madam Becky cos none of the WGs in MK did FK at the time...

But seemed to fade....

BUT....I'll put this out there..

There seems to be, in the last year, an strong increase in tension and aggression appearing in punting forums......

I've been punting since 2002, posting since about 2007/2008 but the last year or so Ive noticed a strange twist in the wind.

Any new poster is looked on with suspicion of as troller, or WG cheerleading herself, or someone wanting to stir up shit....

The gap between Punters and WG/Service providers seems to be widening (and forums like UKPunting and Dasisterhood only fuels that divide).

There seems to be an almost "cold war" emerging between the two....

I havent posted much since the new year.... only when Im drunk if Im honest, (yes Im plastered now) as Ive been getting peed off with postings more than Id like

as a knock on effect, I havent really punted much either this year, Only 7 punts and only 3 WGs...... just incase I get a "you posted a,," rant at me....

Have noticed a strange rise in the number of dissapointment FR and rant threads.....

I'll say it, personally, the punting hobby seems to not be as good and fun as it was...........

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I havent posted much since the new year.... only when Im drunk if Im honest, (yes Im plastered now) as Ive been getting peed off with postings more than Id like

as a knock on effect, I havent really punted much either this year, Only 7 punts and only 3 WGs...... just incase I get a "you posted a,," rant at me....

Have noticed a strange rise in the number of dissapointment FR and rant threads.....

I'll say it, personally, the punting hobby seems to not be as good and fun as it was...........

Very interesting observations (even from an intoxicated poster!). I wonder if it's as much to do with the state of the world/country.

My own take is there the attitudes referred to by Overworked could equally apply to other spheres of life.

Is it the recession, the increase in unemployment, the cutback in benefits, the reduction in pension funds? I don't know, but I sense the world is very pessimistic at the moment.

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What's wrong with a love in?

What's wrong with fluffy pink things?

I am dead good at fluffing pink things ;)

Lucy :)

I LIKE the sound of this :P:wub:

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