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I Need To Stop Getting Ripped Off

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Saw a girl tonight and it was a disaster tbh. She looked fine, bettter but, fake enjoys/services though I was squeaky clean, at the start of her period bled after a few minutes of sex, and asked me to leave after 25 minutes of the hour. I probably should have gone then given my remaining option was a handjob which I'm not into and didn't enjoy it when I did come. Also apparently unaware that it is possible to come without orgasm when declaring the come and go rule, when stimulating is stop and start. That was through the purple site but she has profiles on several agencies with the same sort of services. I don't seem to be able to post a review on purple site, I'm now assuming I had to book through the site to then be able to post a review?

Before that saw a girl through an agency who has fake services on several agency sites but as she barely spoke a word of English so assumed it was the agency full of bs not her, but don't know.

Before that fake pictures on purple site not attracted to the girl, fake profile, didn't have the heart to turn around and make the hour trip back.

What should I do to stop getting ripped off?? Just find an agency that is honest or only stick to the handful of girls with a lot of reviews? Accept that almost all punts are going to be rubbish and just hope to find the occasional honest girl/profile? Is that how it turns works. Try to have a long chat before making a booking and discuss whether they are being honest? But they can just lie anyway and when I hand over the cash that's it. Just go through an agency and tell the receptionist I want genuine profile info?

About A-level, if it is listed as offered I think I'm doing it wrong. Do others normally discuss it in advance? I don't know when to bring it up and leave it too late I guess then it doesn't get offered. Probably fake on the profile 90% the time anyway.

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I am really sorry you are not having a great time of it out there. All I can suggest is that you do more research, perhaps consult with some of the punters on here. Whilst I happen to be a more reviewed lady, I do see many posts from guys such as Smiths here who see girls without feedback and have a great time.

I suspect you, like us genuine girls develop a sixth sense and just recognise when someone is genuine or not. Quizzing a girl whilst obvious can also ring alarm bells, just see a recent thread on guys asking what turns a WG on!

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Can't seem to edit first post " Is that how it turns works" should be "is that how it works?" Oh dear - also when stimulating should read "when stimulation."

I've seen 20 escorts and I would like to have one pse or near pse experience (would like to do a facial/cum in open mouth before I die) and live in hope but don't feel I'm going to win that lottery no matter what profiles say!

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Like Strawberry, I am sorry to hear that you've had such bad luck in finding the right girl. If you book through he purple sites system, then you can leave a feedback/field report, otherwise no. But you can leave one here, surely?

You just need to research as much as possible, or even ask members here for recommendations.

Although I don't offer 'A', I believe that it should be discussed with the girl first - even if it is on her likes list, as I understand that there is usually a minimum time of booking (i.e. an hour) due to preparation.

Good luck, and don't let them get you down - there are 100's of good ones out here.

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Saw a girl tonight and it was a disaster tbh. She looked fine, bettter but, fake enjoys/services though I was squeaky clean, at the start of her period bled after a few minutes of sex, and asked me to leave after 25 minutes of the hour. I probably should have gone then given my remaining option was a handjob which I'm not into and didn't enjoy it when I did come. Also apparently unaware that it is possible to come without orgasm when declaring the come and go rule, when stimulating is stop and start. That was through the purple site but she has profiles on several agencies with the same sort of services. I don't seem to be able to post a review on purple site, I'm now assuming I had to book through the site to then be able to post a review?

Before that saw a girl through an agency who has fake services on several agency sites but as she barely spoke a word of English so assumed it was the agency full of bs not her, but don't know.

Before that fake pictures on purple site not attracted to the girl, fake profile, didn't have the heart to turn around and make the hour trip back.

What should I do to stop getting ripped off?? Just find an agency that is honest or only stick to the handful of girls with a lot of reviews? Accept that almost all punts are going to be rubbish and just hope to find the occasional honest girl/profile? Is that how it turns works. Try to have a long chat before making a booking and discuss whether they are being honest? But they can just lie anyway and when I hand over the cash that's it. Just go through an agency and tell the receptionist I want genuine profile info?

About A-level, if it is listed as offered I think I'm doing it wrong. Do others normally discuss it in advance? I don't know when to bring it up and leave it too late I guess then it doesn't get offered. Probably fake on the profile 90% the time anyway.

To answer the overall thrust of your post, how to improve your punts, i would advise posting a thread up on the Information Board asking for recommendations from punters on the WG or WGs in the area you will be punting in. Make this as detailed as you can and hopefully you will receive some good recs. You can also check out FRs and use the search facility at the top of the page to see if you can locate any useful recent previous recs.

I dont go to Agencies myself because in London they are far too expensive in my opinion. You dont have to just accept bad service and there are many good SPs out their offering good service, hopefully the above will locate one or more for you. Good luck. :)

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Before that fake pictures on purple site not attracted to the girl, fake profile, didn't have the heart to turn around and make the hour trip back.

Turning around and walking away - mentally prepare yourself to have this mindset before you leave your own house.

If you walk you will feel annoyed at first, but a lot less annoyed than if you actually go ahead and hand over the money. You are not obliged to proceed with anything, no matter how far you've travelled, or how horny you are, especially if it is a fake profile that has brought you to their doorstep in the first place.

You are in control of your own decisions :)

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I've seen 20 escorts and I would like to have one pse or near pse experience (would like to do a facial/cum in open mouth before I die) and live in hope but don't feel I'm going to win that lottery no matter what profiles say!

I have to agree with Orions last sentence on his above post, in fact all of his post makes good sense.

I do not class anyone who has met 20 escorts as a novice in this world.

You are getting something badly wrong not to of found someone good by now who does what she says on the tin.

I often wonder why some guys seem to have bad experiences.

There are so many ladies out there with great reviews, so why not just pick one of them?

I know this world is about punting and taking a chance, but if after 20 tries you still are not getting what you want, I can only think you have to hold yourself to blame for picking the wrong ladies.

Not sure where you are from but I could tell you of many who will do what you want in any area of this country.

I read reviews, I read other ladies profiles, the good ones stand out a mile, choose one of them.

Not all on that site are scammers and liars about what they will do with you.

If I can attain that knowledge by reading a review or two, so can you Sir!

All the best.

Happy punting.

Lucy :)

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Researh, research research!

Punting is an expensive hobby, and more so if you get it wrong. I punt almost exclusively through the purple site, and I generally get what I'm looking for because I do the footwork beforehand to weed out the fake profiles, and flakey girls. It's also important to clarify your expectations with the WG, so that you both go into a meet knowing what to expect. I agree with the posts above regarding anal here - it's important that you discuss your needs/wants beforehand - though not in obsessive detail as I think this can be off putting and indicative of a timewasting punter (am I right ladies?)

If you want my advice on picking a punt, then here you go:

My system, such as it is, woud be to decide what you want from your punt (PSE, anal, busty - whatever your must-haves are), then draw up a shortlist using the search function. You can place these into a hotlist on the purple site. Next, go through the profiles, and exclude any with no feedback, or very little, especially if the profile has been around for a while and still hasn't generated any (you can check the registration date at the bottom). If a new girl is for real, she'll quickly pick up feedback. Next, I go through the feedback of the remaining girls, and check for any problems there. Whilst I wouldn't exclude a WG based on the odd bit of negative feedback, if there is a pattern in the comments - ie bad attitiute or always late, then I tend to exclude these too. Girls who have feedback from lots of regular punters tend to be for real - profiles where all the feedback is from guys with only one or two feedbacks themselves more likey to be fakes (in my opinion). Next I'd go through the pictures, and weed out any that don't quite ring true - sometimes the pictures are too good to be true. You can check pictures by uploading them to the tineye search engine, which will tell you if those same pictures are used elsewhere on the internet - sometimes this might be legitimately, i.e. on another escort website, but sometimes they are stolen from a porn site - tineye will tell you. By now, your probably down to a handful of candidates. Go back through the profiles and give them a proper read - does the girl sound straightforward? does she leave bitchy comments about punters in her blog? Do the prices look realistic? Can she write a paragraph without using text speak? Double check that she offers the services you're after. Does she offer anything that you're not happy with e.g. bareback - I drop those profiles too. At this point I might put up a posting on here, and see if anyone else has seen the particular girl, and get some honest feedback from fellow punters. Finally, I'll contact the girl by email/phone to discuss the meeting. Is the communication good? Is she friendly? Is she happy to discuss things with you? In the end though, despite all of this, you'll need to take a chance. It's a longwinded process, but it works for me - hopefully you find it useful, and good luck :)

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You have seen 20 escorts and not one of them has let you CIM or do a facial? Bloody hell man!

That is some run of bad luck sweetie. There are some girls who apparently try and weasel out of doing specific things they have said they will do, either on their profile, or on the phone or whatever, but I would have thought they were a minority, not the majority. Only going on what my clients have told me.

Can only echo what other people have said. Pick carefully. Maybe try and have a quick chat first, even by email? Get a feel for whether they are genuine?

The law of averages would suggest you are due some mindblowing experience.

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Chipotle's advice is spot on! You can never do enough research. Indeed, some of us maintain that it is half the fun.

The most important thing, in view of your poor experiences to date, is to make sure that you get the chance to speak to the lady on the phone. That probably means booking indies, which happens to be my preference. Take you time and don't be afraid to walk if what you see is not

what you were offered.

Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask for info once you have narrowed down your choice to 2 or 3.

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Can't seem to edit first post " Is that how it turns works" should be "is that how it works?" Oh dear - also when stimulating should read "when stimulation."

I've seen 20 escorts and I would like to have one pse or near pse experience (would like to do a facial/cum in open mouth before I die) and live in hope but don't feel I'm going to win that lottery no matter what profiles say!

If you can punt in London it might be worth having a look at the Maxes Angels site and trying to meet Gabriella or Alex, who returns soon but could be VERY busy when she does.

Edited by Conwy

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Well I was thinking about it and have a problem with being impulsive about making a booking - as I can be about lots of things at times. Picking based too much on looks and not patient enough to book ahead, just on the day for the evening of the same day. So that normally means I have to phone a few to find one girl who is available. That's not going to be a problem if almost all wgs are reliable but it hasn't turned out that way. Of course I knew before the last three this time to look for good reviews and without them you can't expect any kissing or owo but still naively hopeful I guess.

Last week I phoned for a couple of girls with a few good reviews but unavailable, as phoning on the same day. I don't know if I could book a few days ahead and be patient enough to wait... but maybe I could as it would be something to look forward to. Maybe I can start 2 or 3 days ahead!

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Like Strawberry, I am sorry to hear that you've had such bad luck in finding the right girl. If you book through he purple sites system, then you can leave a feedback/field report, otherwise no. But you can leave one here, surely?

You just need to research as much as possible, or even ask members here for recommendations.

Although I don't offer 'A', I believe that it should be discussed with the girl first - even if it is on her likes list, as I understand that there is usually a minimum time of booking (i.e. an hour) due to preparation.

Good luck, and don't let them get you down - there are 100's of good ones out here.

OK thanks I didn't realise that is how the review system works for purple site. I don't know whether I will post a review on PN.. I'm too soft, and too worried about it meaning she gets hardly any more customers, although I felt ripped off :huh:

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Saw a girl tonight and it was a disaster tbh. She looked fine, bettter but, fake enjoys/services though I was squeaky clean, at the start of her period bled after a few minutes of sex, and asked me to leave after 25 minutes of the hour. I probably should have gone then given my remaining option was a handjob which I'm not into and didn't enjoy it when I did come. Also apparently unaware that it is possible to come without orgasm when declaring the come and go rule, when stimulating is stop and start. That was through the purple site but she has profiles on several agencies with the same sort of services. I don't seem to be able to post a review on purple site, I'm now assuming I had to book through the site to then be able to post a review?

Before that saw a girl through an agency who has fake services on several agency sites but as she barely spoke a word of English so assumed it was the agency full of bs not her, but don't know.

Before that fake pictures on purple site not attracted to the girl, fake profile, didn't have the heart to turn around and make the hour trip back.

What should I do to stop getting ripped off?? Just find an agency that is honest or only stick to the handful of girls with a lot of reviews? Accept that almost all punts are going to be rubbish and just hope to find the occasional honest girl/profile? Is that how it turns works. Try to have a long chat before making a booking and discuss whether they are being honest? But they can just lie anyway and when I hand over the cash that's it. Just go through an agency and tell the receptionist I want genuine profile info?

About A-level, if it is listed as offered I think I'm doing it wrong. Do others normally discuss it in advance? I don't know when to bring it up and leave it too late I guess then it doesn't get offered. Probably fake on the profile 90% the time anyway.

You do seem to have been unlucky with the girls you have seen. I think you have the answer in your own post i.e. Only see girls with plenty of reviews and feedback. At least for time being.

I am not saying that girls without any feedback should be avoided, after all everyone has to start somewhere, but in your case I think it woulod be wise if only to restore your faith a little bit.

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Are YOU the problem, OP? If, for example, you are selecting girls that advertise CIM and they subsequently don't, you should be looking critically and honestly at yourself.

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I don't understand your post Auldyin. If a girl advertises CIM and then doesn't, then she's not marketing her services honestly.

Orion put it very well upthread. If alarm bells are ringing then you should veer, perseverance no matter how tempting is never a good idea.

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Hi PoorPunter

Like many have said you just need to up your game my friend...Research, research, research is the only way! Punting is an expensive hobby therefore you have to take control and ensure you get it right.

Although not the perfect formula for punting this check list has always worked well for me :)

  • Use the search function on ''The purple site''
  • Make a shortlist depending on your requirements
  • Try to stay clear of agency girls
  • delete those with no feedback
  • delete the girls with no pictures
  • delete the girls with no face pictures (you can always ask for a face pic but have to respect anonymity)
  • read the reviews of the remaining girls (and reports)
  • delete those who have any (perhaps 1 is ok) negative feedback, less than 5 positive feedbacks or whos last feedback was a while ago
  • That's your short-shortlist
  • E-mail a couple of girls that are left (there won't be many!) be polite but very specific about the services your seeking and arrange from there

In my experience when I've stuck fast to the bullet points I've never be truly disappointed. The downside is however that of the thousands of ladies on 'the purple site' my shortlist contains 41 and most work at least one and half to two hours away from me but thats life :)

Good luck.

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Are YOU the problem, OP? If, for example, you are selecting girls that advertise CIM and they subsequently don't, you should be looking critically and honestly at yourself.

Unless they only offer it only to the man of their dreams, guys who tip extra or are turned on by bad boys who are rough and abusive I don't think it's me. I am polite and respectful to a fault, 30 and sometimes told attractive not much overweight and make sure I'm very clean beforehand, as clean as possible coming from home and shaven where I need to be. When many things are listed and then there isn't even owo or kissing then it's falsely advertised. The second girl I mentioned swapped numbers with me after under the pretenses of wanting to learn English and asks me if I want to come back so I don't think she was repulsed. When WGs like her constantly snog me the whole time for the length of the booking I am assuming that's not because they have to.

I realise some things are at discretion but I took that to mean generally only with clean guys who don't smell not only extra tippers or men WGs are very attracted to.

Only a handful the 20ish I've seen so far offered more than owo so I've given the wrong impression. I was thinking how will I find more than a basic/vanilla service with all the false services? I'll take the advice here, though it's disappointing to have to rule out any girls without a review. There are quite a few on agency websites I really like the look of who don't work independently.

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About making a FR for the last girl can I actually make a FR here? As I arranged through purple site.

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Hi PoorPunter

Like many have said you just need to up your game my friend...Research, research, research is the only way! Punting is an expensive hobby therefore you have to take control and ensure you get it right.

Although not the perfect formula for punting this check list has always worked well for me :)

  • Use the search function on ''The purple site''
  • Make a shortlist depending on your requirements
  • Try to stay clear of agency girls
  • delete those with no feedback
  • delete the girls with no pictures
  • delete the girls with no face pictures (you can always ask for a face pic but have to respect anonymity)
  • read the reviews of the remaining girls (and reports)
  • delete those who have any (perhaps 1 is ok) negative feedback, less than 5 positive feedbacks or whos last feedback was a while ago
  • That's your short-shortlist
  • E-mail a couple of girls that are left (there won't be many!) be polite but very specific about the services your seeking and arrange from there

In my experience when I've stuck fast to the bullet points I've never be truly disappointed. The downside is however that of the thousands of ladies on 'the purple site' my shortlist contains 41 and most work at least one and half to two hours away from me but thats life :)

Good luck.

I will try that, I find it very awkward to discuss services before meeting in person.. how often are they willing to do that?

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Oh and what about using an agency and discussing services with the receptionist? I've never done it and didn't think it was right to.. and don't even want to be troublesome by asking for what they should wear like other guys do... I'm not pushy enough.

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You have seen 20 escorts and not one of them has let you CIM or do a facial? Bloody hell man!

That is some run of bad luck sweetie. There are some girls who apparently try and weasel out of doing specific things they have said they will do, either on their profile, or on the phone or whatever, but I would have thought they were a minority, not the majority. Only going on what my clients have told me.

Can only echo what other people have said. Pick carefully. Maybe try and have a quick chat first, even by email? Get a feel for whether they are genuine?

The law of averages would suggest you are due some mindblowing experience.

Only a few of them advertised it in the first place I gave the wrong impression. But before owo was on offer when it was on a profile leading to me creating this thread. Once I realised that the standard WG experience isn't wild (the porn effect on my expecations) I started looking girls offering something extra though these last three times.

Feel too awkward discussing what I want on the phone with an independent girl first, maybe it is fair though. What is in my head is, if I take more than the time necessary to just arrange a booking, I'm being rude and taking up too much of her time if I start talking about what I want to do. I don't know how I would say it either:

(if a girl lists cim on profile) "How likely is it you won't actually mind me cumming in your mouth" - how is she supposed to answer that? Will you actually kiss or make an excuse?

Don't subscribe to the gambler's fallacy unfortunately ;):( Good job as I am learning poker.

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About making a FR for the last girl can I actually make a FR here? As I arranged through purple site.

Yes, but you cant refer to that site or post a link to the WGs profile.

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I will try that, I find it very awkward to discuss services before meeting in person.. how often are they willing to do that?

Depends on the WG. I very rarely have a problem getting confirmation that the services advertised are definitely still on offer, no problem if a WG doesnt wish to discuss this on the phone, i just go elsewhere.

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I have only used parlours and adverts by independents in the local press and such like. I have never considered an agency as it adds another layer of protocol. I just don't think it would work for me.

But I visit a handful of parlours and get known by the girls and the staff over a period of time. So there is some familiarisation. So I at least say hello to all there and acknowledge them. Women talk and if you are not their customer, they may well talk to the woman you saw, and it may lead to getting the right girl for you.

Also most girls can see you elsewhere, and if they take a liking to you will usually give you their extra work mobile number. They will only respond for business, but at least you have made the move into having a 'regular'. If they don't, then they just don't fancy you much at all, and it just won't happen.

I reckon most waiters in a restaurant can predict what the customer is going to order off the menu, just by looking at them. So try not to walk into a punt with it written on your face. Its bound to put a girl off.

Also the wg may be a professional sex worker, but she still goes on being a woman.

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