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Kilburn Brothel Owner Ordered To Pay Back £120,000

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Er, "pay back"? Pay back the management's share to each punter who has the guts to come forward?

Other than the two well slanted reports that you have been helpful enough to post links to, I know nothing about Junior, so I don't know whether he is a wicked trafficker and exploiter, or merely the provider, for his profit, of facilities where ladies can chose to work shifts. Given the light sentence he got for his offences, I rather suspect that he was in the latter category?

The largest lesson learned here, surely, is NEVER, EVER to leave your bank statements where plod (or your wife) can find them!

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Er, "pay back"? Pay back the management's share to each punter who has the guts to come forward?

Other than the two well slanted reports that you have been helpful enough to post links to, I know nothing about Junior, so I don't know whether he is a wicked trafficker and exploiter, or merely the provider, for his profit, of facilities where ladies can chose to work shifts. Given the light sentence he got for his offences, I rather suspect that he was in the latter category?

The largest lesson learned here, surely, is NEVER, EVER to leave your bank statements where plod (or your wife) can find them!

The other lesson must be if you want to be seen as a legitimate business, pay your taxes. The authorities seem more pissed at no getting their share than anything

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The other lesson must be if you want to be seen as a legitimate business, pay your taxes. The authorities seem more pissed at no getting their share than anything

Tax TAX and more bloody tax you are quite right.

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£120,000 or 2 years?

Would 2 years be reduced to 1 with good conduct?

Who could earn £120,000 AFTER TAX, in 2 (or maybe 1) years?

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£120,000 or 2 years?

Would 2 years be reduced to 1 with good conduct?

No remission for POCA sentence in respect of confiscation order.

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£120,000 or 2 years? Would 2 years be reduced to 1 with good conduct? Who could earn £120,000 AFTER TAX, in 2 (or maybe 1) years?
I dont view £120k as that much myself, certainly not worth going to prison over. The thing about this matter is as a brothel is wholly illegal can you pay tax on it anyway. Surely the taxman knows brothels are illegal and while still possibly taking the money would surely be bound to inform the police of illegal goings-on, or even knowing its illegal continue to take the tax if and until the brothel is closed. :) Edited by smiths

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£120,000 or 2 years?

Would 2 years be reduced to 1 with good conduct?

Who could earn £120,000 AFTER TAX, in 2 (or maybe 1) years?

In my distant youth, I was often in the Police Court on Monday mornings (in the line of duty, I hasten to add) where in the majority of cases, the baillie, having heard the evidence (such as it was) would look up and say:

fiveortwentynotimenext

which, being interpreted, is: "I find the charge(s) against you proved, you will be fined five pounds or serve twenty days imprisonment in default of payment, for which no time is allowed. Usher, please call the next case!"

Serving (subject to remission) the twenty days wiped the fine out, but I'm pretty sure that imprisonment imposed for failure to honour a POCA order is merely a punishment for not paying on time, and does NOT satisfy the requirement to find the money somehow!

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The thing about this matter is as a brothel is wholly illegal can you pay tax on it anyway. Surely the taxman knows brothels are illegal and while still possibly taking the money would surely be bound to inform the police of illegal goings-on, or are they just hypocrites who even knowing its illegal continue to take the tax if and until the brothel is closed. :)

Oh, yes, HMRC stands for Hypocritical Mercenary Revenue and Customs! They will most certainly accept tax from a "sauna operator", or "escort agency", but, even then, I don't think (it is a long time since I completed a business tax return) in any case that one uses words, but only a 4-digit business code!

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So if HMRC gets paid tax on income from prostitution, it is getting paid money earned by crime.

Lock up HMRC with no remission.

Next case.

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So if HMRC gets paid tax on income from prostitution, it is getting paid money earned by crime.

Lock up HMRC with no remission.

Next case.

Prostitution per se is not a crime. It's running a brothel, controlling someone elses prostitution which is.

Do drug dealers also get a tax bill after POCA?Just something I'm interested to know.

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Prostitution per se is not a crime. It's running a brothel, controlling someone elses prostitution which is.

Do drug dealers also get a tax bill after POCA?Just something I'm interested to know.

Even proceeds of crime are taxable. So if a shopkeeper sells fireworks or alcohol to anyone under-age then that income is still taxable.

Whilst HMRC have been known to go after drug-dealers they're very unlikely to tax burglars.

In most cases I'm sure that once POCA is involved, HMRC won't want to know. It's very unlikely that they'll get anything.

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Even proceeds of crime are taxable. So if a shopkeeper sells fireworks or alcohol to anyone under-age then that income is still taxable.

Whilst HMRC have been known to go after drug-dealers they're very unlikely to tax burglars.

In most cases I'm sure that once POCA is involved, HMRC won't want to know. It's very unlikely that they'll get anything.

I'm sure we've had cases where brothel owners have had all their monies confiscated under POCA, and then sent a bill from HMRC.

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I'm sure we've had cases where brothel owners have had all their monies confiscated under POCA, and then sent a bill from HMRC.

I'm sure that it happens, but in the example that you give it would seem rather pointless for HMRC to make a demand as the brothel owners would not be in a position to pay the tax.

I also doubt that the POCA Asset Recovery Teams are keen to share too much information with HMRC. They will have their own targets in terms of £££'s recovered and they will not want a competing agency to make a financial demand that could impact on their recovery rate. In any event they may well have the advantage of a Restraint Order that would effectively prevents payment of any tax bill.

I suspect that in most cases being the subject of a Confiscation Order and receiving a tax demand from HMRC are unrelated. It would be expecting too much to believe that the agencies work together or even consult each other.

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I love it that one of the brothels was in Honeypot Lane, Kingsbury.

This street NEEDS a brothel or a name change to Cold Comfort Close.

Daffon

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