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Helen Jones

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Last weekend, for a bit of entertainment, I went to see an old favorite "British institution" comedian.

Freddie Starr twas

Although he was very very funny as expected, his act hasn't really changed or have anything new.

People still pay to come to see him, have a great time, and go away still chuckling, and satisfied.

Watching Freddie up there with tiny cracks in his otherwise impeccable performing pedigree, as an escort could actually empathise with him.

Thing is........ He (and other acts I've seen who repeat an act every night/weekend whatever) can become a bit "tired" and careless because of the repitition.

Its a bit like being on automatic pilot.

Sometimes the timing or inflection of a joke is way out, somtimes they repeat themselves, working to a script with a time line they can rush or slow up to keep the finale on cue.

Its understandable and completely forgivable of course.

The pressures of going on stage and trying to please everyone, smiling and being friendly and entertaining, putting aside your personal problems demons and circumstances in order to give the audience (sometimes refered to as punters too!) a great time.

Its a lot like Escorting.

I know some will say we have an act, which admittedly we have to do occasionally, but I know most escorts - Professional escorts that is with a capital P, are simply entertaining their client as themselves.

Do you find escorts can sometimes suffer from "entertainment burnout" or Auto pilot? and an experience can be a bit mechanical & scripted?

People tell me I's quite common !.

I think most escorts get to a saturation point and need a break to keep up the momentum of such an intensivley interactive and personal service.

Thats why we have so many holidays/:P

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Helen,

I've watched a fair amount of live music over many years, and because I like traditional stuff (where many performers have very long careers) I've often seen the same performers many times.

In some cases... the performers play almost same list of songs every time you seem them. Probably not worth seeing frequently (although in type of music I like anybody who lasts in business has to be very skilled indeed... there's practically no "easy money on suffer"). Other performers are constantly looking at writing new material, researching old music they have not played before, or altering the way they perform old favorites. They may well be worth seeing again and again.

I'm sure that the "burn-out" you refer to can exist, and a good holiday is one way to re-charge the batteries. But I suspect its not the main reason good escorts tend to take frequent holidays. I suspect the main reason is that they are earning good money, and can afford good holidays. No shame in that... in my view it should be a well paid profession.

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Last weekend, for a bit of entertainment, I went to see an old favorite "British institution" comedian.

Freddie Starr twas

Although he was very very funny as expected, his act hasn't really changed or have anything new.

People still pay to come to see him, have a great time, and go away still chuckling, and satisfied.

Watching Freddie up there with tiny cracks in his otherwise impeccable performing pedigree, as an escort could actually empathise with him.

Thing is........ He (and other acts I've seen who repeat an act every night/weekend whatever) can become a bit "tired" and careless because of the repitition.

Its a bit like being on automatic pilot.

Sometimes the timing or inflection of a joke is way out, somtimes they repeat themselves, working to a script with a time line they can rush or slow up to keep the finale on cue.

Its understandable and completely forgivable of course.

The pressures of going on stage and trying to please everyone, smiling and being friendly and entertaining, putting aside your personal problems demons and circumstances in order to give the audience (sometimes refered to as punters too!) a great time.

Its a lot like Escorting.

I know some will say we have an act, which admittedly we have to do occasionally, but I know most escorts - Professional escorts that is with a capital P, are simply entertaining their client as themselves.

Do you find escorts can sometimes suffer from "entertainment burnout" or Auto pilot? and an experience can be a bit mechanical & scripted?

People tell me I's quite common !.

I think most escorts get to a saturation point and need a break to keep up the momentum of such an intensivley interactive and personal service.

Thats why we have so many holidays/:P

hi helen --- do you think escorts are getting so much work and are so busy that they reach saturation point and therefore need more hols than most ? from what I read here, lack of work for most WGs is a problem-- like everything, there may be some exceptions to the rule.

I started a thread recently,querying whether the punt routine had become too "routine " and suggesting that the lady take more initiative to help change this situation and make it more varied and interesting for both. I cant say this was met with much enthusiasm by the ladies here.

I have a theory that generally [ excluding the severly overworked ] people need more hols when they are not happy with their job. when you are not happy, the feeling of "recharged batteries " peters out quite quickly after return to work. personally, I get disheartened when I read on posts by WGs here that they really dont care whether or not the guy tries something to please them [eg.RO ] or worse still,that RO merely gives the lady time to check her watch ! It would be truly great, if the client could find some way,in advance, of determining if the escort genuinley enjoyed her work as opposed to merely being a prodessional [ perhaps mechanical ] escort. could you advise here ?

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Hi Helen,

Lovely post to read. Yes, your certainly right in some respects of what you say.

Personally, i've just taken out a few weeks from the scene- holiday, seeing family and friends and other bits and pieces. I think it's good to have time out- that would apply to any job you do- ok, yes this is a more 'personal' job,

and yes, I think your personality does come through when you do a job such as this.

when you come across people with characters that are not too likable- that's when I find myself acting- and really, can only keep the act up for so long before I say what I really think about them :P- but then again, that's not professional, so I try to bite my tongue.

I don't feel you ever need/have to put on an 'act' and it certainly doesn't feel like 'work' when you meet guy's that have manners, good hygiene, and generally just very respectful human beings.

What does get me, is the amount of bargaining on this board sometimes to find the 'lowest price' for the 'most hours' etc,. I think guy's that do that don't actually realise how de-humanising this is to a wg. This is a 'human' transaction-NOT buying a car, house, food, etc,. I find that quite demoralizing.

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Good Companionship is a form of Art.

The Lady who does this well, is an Artist.

And yes, she may have to perform the same "gig" again and again.

Variations on a theme.

It is up to her and her patrons to make sure every performance goes well, smooth.

It is mainly the responsability of the Artis, partly shared with the patron/public, to make sure the meacenas gets what he is looking for: a work of Art.

(I dont know how often I have now repeated the above, I'll refrain from linking to the same statement time and again...)

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I think it's also important to vary your techniques and performance a bit, just to keep things exciting. Even just a small change to your appearance can make all the difference between fresh and exciting and staid. Also, keeping your sense of humour helps.

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I think it's also important to vary your techniques and performance a bit, just to keep things exciting. Even just a small change to your appearance can make all the difference between fresh and exciting and staid. Also, keeping your sense of humour helps.

I agree Darla. I do think variation is good.

P.s I don't think the bit about 'bargaining' on my post fits too well on your thread Helen! :D hey ho :D:P;) xxx

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How very strange that Freddie Starr is still about! When I was very young I would sometimes do the sound system for him at his shows. I can honestly say that 'Freddie Starr ate my microphone'

I'm not so sure that Freddie has an act, what you see is what he is;)

He was just as barking mad off stage as on it.:P

I have found that the few working girls I have got to know well don't act. If I felt it was a 'performance' I probably would not return.

I always do my level best to ensure that the girl has a good time and that way I will enjoy it.

As Natasha says, if the girl feels like she is not working, then I find the respect is reciprecated.

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Natasha, that's a good summary.

This says pretty much what I feel from the punter's point of view.

What I look for is a genuine 'gfe' which is hard to find, but this is what does it for me. The amount paid (once agreed) is pretty much irrelevant if what's agreed is delivered.

There has to be some 'chemistry' for it to work properly and regardless of how hard you try, you can't always do it with everyone.

Luckily I currently have someone who fits the bill, so I see her mostly, but there are so many girls and so little time...

I now anticipate receiving many replies about me being a 'fluffy'?

Hi Helen,

Lovely post to read. Yes, your certainly right in some respects of what you say.

Personally, i've just taken out a few weeks from the scene- holiday, seeing family and friends and other bits and pieces. I think it's good to have time out- that would apply to any job you do- ok, yes this is a more 'personal' job,

and yes, I think your personality does come through when you do a job such as this.

when you come across people with characters that are not too likable- that's when I find myself acting- and really, can only keep the act up for so long before I say what I really think about them :P- but then again, that's not professional, so I try to bite my tongue.

I don't feel you ever need/have to put on an 'act' and it certainly doesn't feel like 'work' when you meet guy's that have manners, good hygiene, and generally just very respectful human beings.

What does get me, is the amount of bargaining on this board sometimes to find the 'lowest price' for the 'most hours' etc,. I think guy's that do that don't actually realise how de-humanising this is to a wg. This is a 'human' transaction-NOT buying a car, house, food, etc,. I find that quite demoralizing.

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Another way of viewing that is, "When I pay a quality lady £x for y hours of her valuable (and enjoyable) time, what am I actually buying?"

The answer certainly has to concede that I am paying for a couple of hours of bathing and painting to show her at her best for me, and also an hour or more recovering from my manly exertions, as well as tidying up after me, but also should note that the sheer joy available with a courtisane is only possible if she has regular time to recharge her batteries, at which point, for those of us who seek quality, the cost suddenly becomes really very reasonable ........

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i'm paying for an "experience", every person is different, every interpersonal exchange is different, i want to remember the lady in 3 weeks time, in 3 months, and in 3 years, and i want her to remember me. sex is improvisation, dont understand guys who go in with a check list of services and aren't happy if they dont tick them all off. Of course a WG is going to have a number of well rehearsed routines in hand, that's part of her role, but its down the the guy to sprinkle the angel dust on the proceedings, to bring something different, a different reaction, out in the lady.

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Last weekend, for a bit of entertainment, I went to see an old favorite "British institution" comedian.

Freddie Starr twas

Although he was very very funny as expected, his act hasn't really changed or have anything new.

People still pay to come to see him, have a great time, and go away still chuckling, and satisfied.

Watching Freddie up there with tiny cracks in his otherwise impeccable performing pedigree, as an escort could actually empathise with him.

Thing is........ He (and other acts I've seen who repeat an act every night/weekend whatever) can become a bit "tired" and careless because of the repitition.

Its a bit like being on automatic pilot.

Sometimes the timing or inflection of a joke is way out, somtimes they repeat themselves, working to a script with a time line they can rush or slow up to keep the finale on cue.

Its understandable and completely forgivable of course.

The pressures of going on stage and trying to please everyone, smiling and being friendly and entertaining, putting aside your personal problems demons and circumstances in order to give the audience (sometimes refered to as punters too!) a great time.

Its a lot like Escorting.

I know some will say we have an act, which admittedly we have to do occasionally, but I know most escorts - Professional escorts that is with a capital P, are simply entertaining their client as themselves.

Do you find escorts can sometimes suffer from "entertainment burnout" or Auto pilot? and an experience can be a bit mechanical & scripted?

People tell me I's quite common !.

I think most escorts get to a saturation point and need a break to keep up the momentum of such an intensivley interactive and personal service.

Thats why we have so many holidays/:P

I agree with every point,I saw an asian girl in august and every thing was to a script,every position was almost the same length of time very mechanical,no interaction allowed,no kissing no touching.It seemed as if ,for her it was just a boring job and not a vocation.Talking to her afterwards,she is going to be here till the end of next year,she doesnt have a set day off just takes a day off when she is tired and what are holidays.I pity her future punters when she is coming towards the end of her time here.On the other hand I see a girl on a regular basis and things are very different,everytime is different,Ive gone there with something in mind to try and just havent got round to doing it,either she is a very good actress or just enjoys what she is doing and she does take long breaks,hence why I see other girls. Its like anything if you do it long enough you go into auto mode,how many off us have got to work in the morning and thought how the hell did I get here! By the way if you want to see a fresh comedian I can recommend Michael Mcintyre,saw him a couple of weeks ago at Wembly very funny,his take on snooker players, very very funny.I saw Freddie in the eighties and I bet his act hasnt changed much.

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I reckon there's quite a lot of acting in life by most people and not only in the punting game.

However, due to the nature of punting services a wg needs to be sensitive to the needs of the punter or he won't return, and if the punter likes what he finds he'll want to return and won't get the chance if he is a neanderthal or similar.

It's when things go wrong the true persona will come through. It's no different in any other workplace, adverse moments will always bring out the real character.

So, we can act all we like, and many times fool all the people, but we'll never fool everyone all the time. By changing one's act it might reignite some enthusiasm, but it may be more difficult if the new 'performance' gets too far away from the true personality of the actor.

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i'm paying for an "experience", every person is different, every interpersonal exchange is different, i want to remember the lady in 3 weeks time, in 3 months, and in 3 years, and i want her to remember me. sex is improvisation, dont understand guys who go in with a check list of services and aren't happy if they dont tick them all off. Of course a WG is going to have a number of well rehearsed routines in hand, that's part of her role, but its down the the guy to sprinkle the angel dust on the proceedings, to bring something different, a different reaction, out in the lady.

I like that saying Guestspeaker - "sprinkle the angle dust" :D

Yes, looking from another angle - I think also, some guy's get very much stuck in a time warp when it comes to sex- are also very ridgidly expecting things to envelope out like a clinical procedure at the dentist/doctor's.

Be nice to get a guy like that to relax and get some fluidity/flexibility in the joints :D:D

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I like that saying Guestspeaker - "sprinkle the angle dust" :(

Yes, looking from another angle - I think also, some guy's get very much stuck in a time warp when it comes to sex- are also very ridgidly expecting things to envelope out like a clinical procedure at the dentist/doctor's.

Be nice to get a guy like that to relax and get some fluidity/flexibility in the joints

I totally agree, I'm all for a bit of stretch and flex ha ha :D:D:D

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I totally agree, I'm all for a bit of stretch and flex ha ha :D

"Calling Mr Obi, are you ready for you examination" ! :D:D:)

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"Calling Mr Obi, are you ready for you examination" !

Mmm hmm, anytime Nurse Tash honi :D:D:Dxxx

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How very strange that Freddie Starr is still about! When I was very young I would sometimes do the sound system for him at his shows. I can honestly say that 'Freddie Starr ate my microphone'

I'm not so sure that Freddie has an act, what you see is what he is;)

He was just as barking mad off stage as on it.:D

I have found that the few working girls I have got to know well don't act. If I felt it was a 'performance' I probably would not return.

I always do my level best to ensure that the girl has a good time and that way I will enjoy it.

As Natasha says, if the girl feels like she is not working, then I find the respect is reciprecated.

I was going to say a similair thing. Had the misfortune to have dinner with him a few times and its certainly not an experience any of the family want to repeat too often. He is absolutely manic off stage, exactly the same way he is on stage, and locally its a bit of an experience watching him around the supermarkets.

Whilst I'll admit there have been times I have called on my acting skills to get through a booking, on the whole I'd say it was really down to the client. If he is a nice easy going, clean guy, then no acting skills needed. But if he was a difficult client, then I'll admit I would retire somewhere else within myself to get through the booking.

Burn out is also a common one to deal with. It didn't take me long to realise that I'd have to pace myself if I wanted to stay in the job. If there were times I got fed up or was getting complacent, then a quick jaunt to the sun soon recharged the batteries.

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There are quite a few elements of the performing seal in a wg. Funnily enough I was driving home this morning contemplating posting about the same subject in light of an encounter last week that seemed to encapsulate some of this thread's subjects, though actually I think the girl was simply being herself and not a contrived persona for the punter's consumption. OK the tigress bit was slightly off the wall..... (did post an FR but modesty or something dters from linking to it)

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I could go to any unsavoury parlour and receive a servicing from an above average looking human automaton. But somehow such an encounter doesn't give you with the same feeling or the coat hanger smile when you leave the premises and walk back to the car. For me "Paying for the experience" as mentioned by guestspeaker, sums up what I'm after too.

Every live performance reacts to audience participation. If the audience isn't giving anything the performer will go through their "routine" and do the bare minimum. I would imagine it would be difficult for any WG to give a 5 star service if their customer isn't doing anything to help the situation.

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Oh God, if I ever caught myself in a deja-vu, I'd probably give up! I think the different boys make every exp different, and they bring in wee tricks from other ladies? Sometimes there are things you know that hit it right on the button with the same boy, so you always get around to that cos you know that's his 'thing' ? But to have a set 'escort routine' and repeating it several times a day or week, oh dear. I don't mind repeating the boys choices, as you are not seeing him everyday.

I have my own 'favourite thing' that I could never get bored of, and I insist that I'm allowed to have it! Regularly! haha

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Oh God, if I ever caught myself in a deja-vu, I'd probably give up! I think the different boys make every exp different, and they bring in wee tricks from other ladies? Sometimes there are things you know that hit it right on the button with the same boy, so you always get around to that cos you know that's his 'thing' ? But to have a set 'escort routine' and repeating it several times a day or week, oh dear. I don't mind repeating the boys choices, as you are not seeing him everyday.

I have my own 'favourite thing' that I could never get bored of, and I insist that I'm allowed to have it! Regularly! haha

Reading that gives a nice start to the day, may it be a good one for you and you get your 'thing.' :D

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