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The Comparative Economics Of Paying For Sex

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How much would you be prepared to pay for a really good quality pair of shoes? £60? £80? £100+

£100+ on a pair of shoes? Sounds like big money - enough to make one feel miserable.

I guess that most people on this board would not pay £100 for a top quality pair of shoes - yet they would pay £100 for a one hour slot - and have nothing to show for it but the experience while it lasted.

So - how do you reconcile shopping at Shoe Warehouse with the money you spend with your regular?

Or are you so flush that you can wear English made shoes and get a top quality escort whe yo.u fancy it?

Does it ever occur to you when you are making certain economic choices - or relatively minor savings here and there, compromising on quality - maybe even making a trying to put a cap of say 50 pounds on a gift for your mother when an extra 20 might buy something really special, - that it's absurd or even obscene to want that saving when you are prepared to pay out a large sum on an escort

As for me - I can't square it - have not been able to reconcile it with myself - I have simply lived with it. I do feel bad about it at times.

Sorry for this thread - it's great coming on here boasting about this and that or saying what turns us on - but there's another side to it.

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How much would you be prepared to pay for a really good quality pair of shoes? £60? £80? £100+

£100+ on a pair of shoes? Sounds like big money - enough to make one feel miserable.

I guess that most people on this board would not pay £100 for a top quality pair of shoes - yet they would pay £100 for a one hour slot - and have nothing to show for it but the experience while it lasted.

So - how do you reconcile shopping at Shoe Warehouse with the money you spend with your regular?

Or are you so flush that you can wear English made shoes and get a top quality escort whe yo.u fancy it?

Does it ever occur to you when you are making certain economic choices - or relatively minor savings here and there, compromising on quality - maybe even making a trying to put a cap of say 50 pounds on a gift for your mother when an extra 20 might buy something really special, - that it's absurd or even obscene to want that saving when you are prepared to pay out a large sum on an escort

As for me - I can't square it - have not been able to reconcile it with myself - I have simply lived with it. I do feel bad about it at times.

Sorry for this thread - it's great coming on here boasting about this and that or saying what turns us on - but there's another side to it.

Same here, but I've decided it's like comparing apples and pears; the comparisons you mention are similar to ones I'd make but they're ultimately pointless. Otherwise why would anyone ever buy a decent anything when the utilitarian and functional serves our practical needs just as well? Life is about more than counting the pennies.

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If I buy a good quality pair of shoes, I can look nice and dapper in them numerous times, possibly for years on end. I can even sell the shoes off once I tire of them, and thereby recoup part of my initial cost.

You can't do that with an escort. A closer analogy to use in a discussion like this would be to look at the provision of a service, where the provision is a once off event.

Just saying.

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Personally, I see money that I am going to spend on an escort as simply expendable. That is, I know that I can afford to spend it.

As such, I have no qualms in justifying it's spending in terms of what it _could_ have gotten me.

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Escort vs Lawyer vs Banker vs Estate Agent....you decide.

A better comparison is probably a hairdresser - not the guy you get but a top class one for a lady who has nice hair.

Lastly, compare versus a private show. Imagine even a pub band playing just for you.

What all these have in common is they are services not goods. Personal services are simply more expensive than goods!

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@KSG - I think lancelot's point is that he's prepared to go for the less expensive option when buying shoes, or reducing the amount that he spends on things like presents, in order to help finance his visits to WGs but he's conflicted about this. I hope I've got that right, lancelot!

@lancelot - The justification, for me at any rate, is that I could get a perfectly serviceable pair of shoes for much less than £100. However, if I want to visit the specific ladies that I like to see then I have to pay their specified rates. If I can't afford/don't want to pay those rates then I won't be able to visit them.

Personally, if I was having to make a choice between buying a gift for my Mum and visiting my favourite escort then the present would certainly take precedence. Punting is a luxury, after all :)

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Comparing punting with shoes is slightly strange. Ultimately life is about having a good time. We have no other reason to exist. Sex is one of life's great pleasures. Therefore, those of us who punt feel justified in paying good money for a good punt.

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Paying big money for them will usually mean good quality shoes :)

Big money for a WG is not such a good bet on the quality side :(

Sorry, folks, just had bad news, so feeling more than a little cynical here :eek:

Jack :ph34r:

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You have to buy shoes to put on your feet to get to the punt . Any shoes will do .

My mother's dead , so I don't have the other problem .

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It's all about quality of life and what makes you happy. Shoes are something to wear on my feet....i will spend the least i can to get something comfortable. The intimate moments spent with a beautiful girl is a feeling and experience to be cherished forever...even if the actual deed only lasts a short while ^_^

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You can buy a meal at the fish shop - or you can buy a meal at Wilton's. Either will keep you from going hungry. You can drive a Rover or a Roller. Either will get you from A to B - but the Rolls does it in more style.

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The fact that I can spend time with a gorgeous and intellectual woman from as little as £140/hr still astounds me.

I don't think I have ever bought any materialistic product for £140 and valued it higher than a good punt 3months later.

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It's not easy for me to articulate exactly what I am getting at here - whether we buy goods or services we still are purchasing perceived value - so whether it's shoes or a piece of fried cod or seeing a film or gambling the comparison with paying for sex, in my opinion - is valid.

Punters have come on this board, and there was a recent thread in which many punters expressed regret at having wasted money, whether the punt was bad or good - though many did say there were no regrets about the money after a good punt - me included.

Yet - there is that awkward feeling I have when making economic choices - that I would not hesitate to spend several hundred on an hour with a beautiful woman - if I thought the experience was going to be outstanding. In fact recently I have become much less of a spendthrift for that reason - as I felt I could not justify pinching pennies and at the same time having my hobby to pay out for.

Do you not think punting can be compared to gambling? When you punt you study the form - you place your bet - you don't know if your filly is going to come in first and if it does you get quite an experience - and if it doesn't - you lose your money and your time. Of course with gambling - if you win you not only get the experience - you also walk away with more money in your pocket - something that never happens with punts.

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Do you not think punting can be compared to gambling? When you punt you study the form - you place your bet - you don't know if your filly is going to come in first and if it does you get quite an experience - and if it doesn't - you lose your money and your time. Of course with gambling - if you win you not only get the experience - you also walk away with more money in your pocket - something that never happens with punts.

The first time you visit a WG is always a gamble, but if you find a lady you connect with then a return visit becomes a 'safe bet'. If you prefer not to see a girl more than once then you're bound to have some losses to go along with your wins.

I've only felt I've wasted money if the booking was fundamentally disappointing, and even then it's been more of a regret that I could've spent my time and money more wisely by visiting one of my regular ladies instead.

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How much would you be prepared to pay for a really good quality pair of shoes? £60? £80? £100+ £100+ on a pair of shoes? Sounds like big money - enough to make one feel miserable. I guess that most people on this board would not pay £100 for a top quality pair of shoes - yet they would pay £100 for a one hour slot - and have nothing to show for it but the experience while it lasted. So - how do you reconcile shopping at Shoe Warehouse with the money you spend with your regular? Or are you so flush that you can wear English made shoes and get a top quality escort whe yo.u fancy it? Does it ever occur to you when you are making certain economic choices - or relatively minor savings here and there, compromising on quality - maybe even making a trying to put a cap of say 50 pounds on a gift for your mother when an extra 20 might buy something really special, - that it's absurd or even obscene to want that saving when you are prepared to pay out a large sum on an escort As for me - I can't square it - have not been able to reconcile it with myself - I have simply lived with it. I do feel bad about it at times. Sorry for this thread - it's great coming on here boasting about this and that or saying what turns us on - but there's another side to it.

I look for VFM in all things as when i believe i have received/got it it makes what i am buying that much sweeter. Its neither here nor there to me that i can afford to spend what i like on these things if i so wished.

Punting can be a very expensive pastime dependent on how you decide to punt. For example if you decide on a Soho Walk-Up its from around £25 for a pump, dump and leave, if you want an hours GFE its going to cost more 121, the punter decides what suits him and in my case as long as i think it was VFM and fun its money very well spent. I love Golf but i am often beaten at it by my son, i dont have anything to show for playing it except the pleasure it gives me overall, and punting is the same. A lifetime of shagging around and the punts i can recall make it a very high VFM pastime to me in the main.

So it comes down to how you view things of course, is getting your end away as much as you wish just by having the cash to do so worth it to you, it certainly is to me. As to shoes i can buy perfectly comfortable ones for £30 so pay that and can get three pairs and have a tenner left over instead of spending £100 on one pair. I personally dont care about what others think is fashionable which is what puts the cost of many things up, to me thats all bollocks, vanity and/or keeping up with the Joneses, i dont feel the need to do that. I do what suits me.

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How much would you be prepared to pay for a really good quality pair of shoes? £60? £80? £100+

£100+ on a pair of shoes? Sounds like big money - enough to make one feel miserable.

I guess that most people on this board would not pay £100 for a top quality pair of shoes - yet they would pay £100 for a one hour slot - and have nothing to show for it but the experience while it lasted.

So - how do you reconcile shopping at Shoe Warehouse with the money you spend with your regular?

Or are you so flush that you can wear English made shoes and get a top quality escort whe yo.u fancy it?

Does it ever occur to you when you are making certain economic choices - or relatively minor savings here and there, compromising on quality - maybe even making a trying to put a cap of say 50 pounds on a gift for your mother when an extra 20 might buy something really special, - that it's absurd or even obscene to want that saving when you are prepared to pay out a large sum on an escort

As for me - I can't square it - have not been able to reconcile it with myself - I have simply lived with it. I do feel bad about it at times.

Sorry for this thread - it's great coming on here boasting about this and that or saying what turns us on - but there's another side to it.

Glad you started this thread Lancelot coz its something which bothers me but I just cant help it.

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its something which bothers me I just cant help it.

That sums it up very well.

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Actually I'm currently agonising about buying a new camera. It's quite expensive, hence the agonising, but I'm hoping that I'll be able to find it in a sale at a good discount. It's not lost on me that I what I've spent on my last two bookings would've pretty much covered the cost of the camera, so I suppose that shows I value the experiences I've had over a material object.

Does this help at all?

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It's not easy for me to articulate exactly what I am getting at here - whether we buy goods or services we still are purchasing perceived value - so whether it's shoes or a piece of fried cod or seeing a film or gambling the comparison with paying for sex, in my opinion - is valid.

I think you mixing here so called "tangible value" (ie, piece of haddock, or new shoes) with something intangible, ie "nothing material to show of for the money you spent". Could be: holidays, dinning, gambling, seeing WG, etc.

I will look on other side of the coin, from WG persepctive. What does it mean to me to earn £300 for example from my hooker's activities? Yesterday I refused 3 hours appointment (£380) with a guy I seen before, because I did not feel like it (ok, I did not want to see him particularly).

Yes, £380 is vast amount of money for the most people! It takes me to earn that for about 10 days on my civvy job. I could buy 2 new pair of shoes which I really really want to! I could buy a new laptop, new tablet, redecorate my room, etc for this amount of money. The list is endless!

Never mind material things: services also: I could employ professional gardeners, and for £400, he will tidy up my garden in the matter of 8 hours. However when you start to chew on it: "do I spent 4-6 hours with somebody I don't like to, and then pay this money to the gardener?". Or do I refuse meeting, ie not earning £380, and work on my garden myself, which will take me a at least 30 hours, oppose to the professional gardeners which would do it in the matter of 7-8 hours? (albeit for £400, which I should earn, but did not). The answer was clear for me! :-)

Matrix: What exactly bothers you about Lancelot's post?

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Punters have come on this board, and there was a recent thread in which many punters expressed regret at having wasted money, whether the punt was bad or good - though many did say there were no regrets about the money after a good punt - me included.

If there are regrets after a bad punt i would expect that many here would feel like i do in that the regret is not that i could have spent the money on someTHING else....but that i could have spent it on someONE else and had a better time. I have never thought about what else in life i could have spent the money on, only what other girls i wished i had booked instead!!

On the flipside....whenever i go into my bank to pay my credit card bills i always have a sadness at thinking that here i am handing over the same price as a good punt!!! It's heartbreaking....and the girl behind the counter cannot imagine why there is a sadness and the occasional tear in my eyes :lol:

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If there are regrets after a bad punt i would expect that many here would feel like i do in that the regret is not that i could have spent the money on someTHING else....but that i could have spent it on someONE else and had a better time. I have never thought about what else in life i could have spent the money on, only what other girls i wished i had booked instead!! On the flipside....whenever i go into my bank to pay my credit card bills i always have a sadness at thinking that here i am handing over the same price as a good punt!!! It's heartbreaking....and the girl behind the counter cannot imagine why there is a sadness and the occasional tear in my eyes :lol:

I totally agree, and after a bad punt, of which i havent had one for a long time now i immediately go see a regular to get back on track. ;)

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I agree with Smiths: VFM is critical but heres at thought:

Shoes - Churchs Brogues £350 but a min of 15yrs service if looked after and repaired once a year. Better value than a throwaway 6 months £30 pair surely? Exclude womens shoes cos they're always a waste

Betting - Neptune Collonges in the National looked really cheap at SP 33/1. good stamina and medium pace but had the distance. Incidentally I had him EW antepost at 50s

Wgs - a fab experience at £250 for 2 hours. Real value for money if she's a cracker and the hotel etc is great and you've got a smile on your face for a month. Better value than a £100 walkup disappointment surely?

The point I'm poorly trying to make is that you can get value at whatever price you pay for a commodity or service. Cheap doesnt mean VFM and expensive doesnt mean rip off.

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I agree with Smiths: VFM is critical but heres at thought: Shoes - Churchs Brogues £350 but a min of 15yrs service if looked after and repaired once a year. Better value than a throwaway 6 months £30 pair surely? Exclude womens shoes cos they're always a waste Betting - Neptune Collonges in the National looked really cheap at SP 33/1. good stamina and medium pace but had the distance. Incidentally I had him EW antepost at 50s Wgs - a fab experience at £250 for 2 hours. Real value for money if she's a cracker and the hotel etc is great and you've got a smile on your face for a month. Better value than a £100 walkup disappointment surely? The point I'm poorly trying to make is that you can get value at whatever price you pay for a commodity or service. Cheap doesnt mean VFM and expensive doesnt mean rip off.

Those shoes are better VFM if they last that long but i am not that bothered and certainly wouldnt put myself out to get them repaired once a year, so for me a £30 pair which last as long as they last is preferable to me. I agree with your last sentence, it all depends on the individual WG, goods or services.

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Consider this - have you ever fancied a punt - not been able to for some reason - or even just not had the money - or had the girl cancel you out - and you have decided to spend ten minutes on xhamster with your dick in your hand and a bucket underneath and afterwards thought - hey - I just saved £XXX. I know that I have. Or do you think - that wasn't satisfactory and dammit that I didn't get the experience I wanted - albeit that you now have maybe £XXX in your hands and no desire for a woman.

As for me - I never wank before a punt - I know some guys do - as it seems to destroy the value of it if I arrive without feeling the need to release a tank load..

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Consider this - have you ever fancied a punt - not been able to for some reason - or even just not had the money - or had the girl cancel you out - and you have decided to spend ten minutes on xhamster with your dick in your hand and a bucket underneath and afterwards thought - hey - I just saved £XXX. I know that I have. Or do you think - that wasn't satisfactory and dammit that I didn't get the experience I wanted - albeit that you now have maybe £XXX in your hands and no desire for a woman. As for me - I never wank before a punt - I know some guys do - as it seems to destroy the value of it if I arrive without feeling the need to release a tank load..

If my plan A goes tits up which is ALWAYS down to the WG not me then i go see a reliable regular or go to a party, so i will always punt on the day i choose. I am mainly a same day punter not knowing till i wake up whether i fancy a punt, a week next Friday doesnt work for me as i might not feel like punting then, so when i do wake up wishing to punt i always will be it plan A or B.

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