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i have been to the ukraine went to kiev was very very nice. and the woman where some of the best I have seen.

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Anyone read up on the Ukrainian activists ?

http://www.guardian....ustry-ukrainian

Anyone going ?

Anyong been to Kiev or similar cities ?

All that publicity make me think: I need to arrange a sales- or client-visit to Ukrain soonish.

Could be equal or better than some asian destinations (caucasians more my type anyway).

Yes peter.

I'm going to Ukraine for the England v France match (June 11th).

Any recommendations?

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Anyone read up on the Ukrainian activists ?

http://www.guardian....ustry-ukrainian

Anyone going ?

Anyong been to Kiev or similar cities ?

All that publicity make me think: I need to arrange a sales- or client-visit to Ukrain soonish.

Could be equal or better than some asian destinations (caucasians more my type anyway).

Just be aware Ukraine has the highest HIV infection rate in Europe. Some estimates put the figure at over 1% of the population, something like 450,000 people.

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Anyone read up on the Ukrainian activists ?

http://www.guardian....ustry-ukrainian

Anyone going ?

Anyong been to Kiev or similar cities ?

All that publicity make me think: I need to arrange a sales- or client-visit to Ukrain soonish.

Could be equal or better than some asian destinations (caucasians more my type anyway).

I have zero interest in going to Ukraine either to punt or watch football, Southend-On-Sea with my hankerchief on my head looking a right wally is far more preferable :)

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I have zero interest in going to Ukraine either to punt or watch football, Southend-On-Sea with my hankerchief on my head looking a right wally is far more preferable :)

Sarfend has nuffink to offer even for skinheads these days. I'd seriously prefer Chernobyl.

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All that publicity make me think: I need to arrange a sales- or client-visit to Ukrain soonish.

Could be equal or better than some asian destinations (caucasians more my type anyway).

I would have thought anyone reading the article would decide to steer well clear of the place, and be wary of any Ukrainian wg's making it over here

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I would have thought anyone reading the article would decide to steer well clear of the place, and be wary of any Ukrainian wg's making it over here

You must be kiding me.

I had some Extremely Good meetings with Uxenarainian Ladies, some are on here as well.

Sort of wet of appetite, to speak so.

(Where is Lady with funny english grammar when needing anyway ?)

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You must be kiding me.

fair enough ..... if "An extensive 2008 study that looked at sex workers' lifestyles in Ukraine noted that 39% of Ukrainian sex workers do not use condoms regularly, and that 22% of them are also drug users" doesn't bother you

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I'm seriously thinking of going to Ukraine in September for a long weekend, havent started doing any reserach yet but the teach-yourself-Russki book has arrived yet still to be opened.

I was thinking that Odessa may be a better place to have fun than Kiev since it is a Black Sea holiday resort as well as large city.

Has anyone here been to both places? In terms of prices, opportunities, quality etc etc which city takes the biscuits?

Thanx in advance

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fair enough ..... if "An extensive 2008 study that looked at sex workers' lifestyles in Ukraine noted that 39% of Ukrainian sex workers do not use condoms regularly, and that 22% of them are also drug users" doesn't bother you

And fair nuf too.. The link is in cyrillic, btw.

But Thx for the warning.

Yes, that sort of things would bother me. I would be very careful in choosing.

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Anyone read up on the Ukrainian activists ?

http://www.guardian....ustry-ukrainian

Anyone going ?

Anyong been to Kiev or similar cities ?

All that publicity make me think: I need to arrange a sales- or client-visit to Ukrain soonish.

Could be equal or better than some asian destinations (caucasians more my type anyway).

I've yet to visit yet, but seriously planning to, as Ukrainian women are some of the most beautiful In all of the world! ;)

Yes peter.

I'm going to Ukraine for the England v France match (June 11th).

Any recommendations?

The problem you'll find going there during the Euros Is everything including the price of hookers will go up.

I would have thought anyone reading the article would decide to steer well clear of the place, and be wary of any Ukrainian wg's making it over here

Yes, or maybe you should lock your front door, and never step out, just incase you get hit by a bus!

I'm seriously thinking of going to Ukraine in September for a long weekend, havent started doing any reserach yet but the teach-yourself-Russki book has arrived yet still to be opened.

I was thinking that Odessa may be a better place to have fun than Kiev since it is a Black Sea holiday resort as well as large city.

Has anyone here been to both places? In terms of prices, opportunities, quality etc etc which city takes the biscuits?

Thanx in advance

Good idea to learn some Russian, many of the girls there don't speak much English, SirMarjalot did go to Odessa, and did post a report, I'm sure you're researching the ISG and others boards already.

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Good idea to learn some Russian, many of the girls there don't speak much English, SirMarjalot did go to Odessa, and did post a report, I'm sure you're researching the ISG and others boards already.

Thanx for that bro :)

Have been doing some research on Odessa, the problem from June thro September is that the city becomes the St. Tropez of the ex-Soviet empire and is full of nouveau-riche Russians flautning their wealth. No trouble finding stunning local ladies wanting 200 euros an hour :eek: The famous Ibiza niteclub in town costs 30 euros entrance and 15 euros for a bevvie apparently ....

Kiev may be a better bet. Just hope that there arent too many riots next month involving the local ultras and England fans :wacko:

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The problem you'll find going there during the Euros Is everything including the price of hookers will go up.

Thanks Jerboa, I assumed as much and anyway I'd be like a fish out of water trying to punt in Donetsk. My usual MO for England's away internationals is to sort something out in W2 before/ after my flights. I love a nice bath after a long flight.

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I have travelled to Ukraine many times and have to say its a great place to enjoy our favourite pastime.

I prefer the more mature ladies 35 to 45 and in my opinion there is no better place in the world to meet glamorous enthusiastic and intelligent ladies in that age bracket. There is a plentiful supply of slim young things if you prefer that age bracket.

I just love the pick up routine in Kiev. Smile at a girl (wherever you are, in the street, in the restaurant, in the bar) and if she smiles back you start to chat to them. If she blanks you just move on to the next one. Chances are you dont have to pay for it, apart from a nice meal and a few drinks.

Look up mamba.ru site and where girl has pink profile she is available for a fee. Try also the most reliable agency GIA but steer clear of most of the others, pics are fake and often the girl who turns up bears no similarity to the one you booked!

If that seems like too much hard work (and the language can sometimes be a problem) then just go in any hotel bar in any 3 or 4 star hotel Lybid, Ukrainia, etc and there will be girls there. For an upmarket experience try Rio nightclub.

I expect prices around Euro 2012 will be inflated but please dont worry about danger. Take all sensible precautions and dont wander about pissed up and you will be alright.

Enjoy!

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I have travelled to Ukraine many times and have to say its a great place to enjoy our favourite pastime.

I prefer the more mature ladies 35 to 45 and in my opinion there is no better place in the world to meet glamorous enthusiastic and intelligent ladies in that age bracket. There is a plentiful supply of slim young things if you prefer that age bracket.

I just love the pick up routine in Kiev. Smile at a girl (wherever you are, in the street, in the restaurant, in the bar) and if she smiles back you start to chat to them. If she blanks you just move on to the next one. Chances are you dont have to pay for it, apart from a nice meal and a few drinks.

Look up mamba.ru site and where girl has pink profile she is available for a fee. Try also the most reliable agency GIA but steer clear of most of the others, pics are fake and often the girl who turns up bears no similarity to the one you booked!

If that seems like too much hard work (and the language can sometimes be a problem) then just go in any hotel bar in any 3 or 4 star hotel Lybid, Ukrainia, etc and there will be girls there. For an upmarket experience try Rio nightclub.

I expect prices around Euro 2012 will be inflated but please dont worry about danger. Take all sensible precautions and dont wander about pissed up and you will be alright.

Enjoy!

Mousey thanx for that encouraging report :D You just made my mind up for me :cool:

From the research I have conducted, there is no point in going anywhere except Kiev for a brief 3-4 day junket in the Ukraine.

An interesting statistic I cum across is that the ratio of women to men in the Ukraine is just about the highest in the world, 100 women to 85 men :blink: The global average is about 100 women to 97 men. Russia, Latvia and Estonia also have a score of about 86. This means that a very high % of ladies in these countries will never find a husband unless they leave the country or find a visiting foreigner. Sounz like paradise to me :ph34r:

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Anyone read up on the Ukrainian activists ?

http://www.guardian....ustry-ukrainian

Anyone going ?

Anyong been to Kiev or similar cities ?

All that publicity make me think: I need to arrange a sales- or client-visit to Ukrain soonish.

Could be equal or better than some asian destinations (caucasians more my type anyway).

You get better Ukrainian escorts in London these days than in Ukraine. Gone the days when punting was a pleasure in these countries. They have all cracked down on prostitution one way or another. I recall in early days, if I called an agency for an escort in Kiev, they would turn up with 10-15 girls in a mini-bus and parade them around my room to choose. All fresh girls dreaming of meeting a foreigner. I recall spending many evenings with some stunners for little or no money at all.

Moldova was the same but the scene has changed completely and prostitution made illegal. Unbelievable, given that it is the biggest exporter of prostitutes.

In Caucuses and Central Asia, the scene was always dominated by Slavic girls and as they have moved out the scene has changed dramatically. Kazakastan was different as it had plenty local Kazaks working. There are still plenty of WGs around in these country but the quality, cost and hassle of finding them is not worth it. The girls are also mainly professional.

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In London its more defined . Pros ,or civilians . In Kiev there are are loads of semi pros in the age group 18/24 ,the group i am willing to pay for ,if the price and looks are right ???

And i have never seen such stunners as in Kiev ,.On a par with Rodeo Drive ,LA ,and Oslo in the summer .

But you need to get on Mamba.ru and do a lot of research to weed them out ..

Good looking hookers are aroundUS$100,an hour ,which is not really a bargain ,when compared to London .

Gia agency is expensive . Very Pro girls .

Strip clubs with take out head to Rio Club . US$300 for 3 hours . Not all girls do take out ..

35/45 females loads of them there ,but not for me .

Body to body massage real VFM ,by very nice looking girls . A lot of students work there ,weekends&holidays .. Rakeuna ,Roxolana etc .

I don't know about Ukrainian girls working as escorts in London .??/

where ???

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I would guess Ukraine worth avoiding while Euro 2012 takes place, presume it will be "rip off" time!

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I don't know about Ukrainian girls working as escorts in London .??/

where ???

The trouble is that most who are from Ukraine/Moldova and unless here on a legitimate visa, would advertised as being from another Easter European country such as Latvia and Lithuania. I have not been seeing EEs for a while but I met some beautiful one's in London few years back through Perfect Petals. There were loads of them in London and I met many of them when I started dating one.

Does anyone remember Treasa? Not a stunner but a top Ukrainian provider of A-Level service in Edgware road. First she worked with Perfect Petals, then went indie, then established her own little agency. She was a total sex machine and she sent me some very beautiful girls from Ukraine at bargain prices. I am getting really nostalgic now for those days when I lived alone and was having such great fun. I dated two of her girls who whilst gorgeous seemed content with cleaning my flat and feeding me with as much borscht as I could take. They were both hopeful of becoming Mrs. Fred15 of course.

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In London its more defined . Pros ,or civilians . In Kiev there are are loads of semi pros in the age group 18/24 ,the group i am willing to pay for ,if the price and looks are right ???

And i have never seen such stunners as in Kiev ,.On a par with Rodeo Drive ,LA ,and Oslo in the summer .

But you need to get on Mamba.ru and do a lot of research to weed them out ..

Good looking hookers are aroundUS$100,an hour ,which is not really a bargain ,when compared to London .

Gia agency is expensive . Very Pro girls .

Strip clubs with take out head to Rio Club . US$300 for 3 hours . Not all girls do take out ..

35/45 females loads of them there ,but not for me .

Body to body massage real VFM ,by very nice looking girls . A lot of students work there ,weekends&holidays .. Rakeuna ,Roxolana etc .

I don't know about Ukrainian girls working as escorts in London .??/

where ???

I have tried using Mamba In the past, but got little response.

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I have tried using Mamba In the past, but got little response.

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Where you looking for girls in in London or Kiev ???? In London there are a lot of Russian girls on it .

for Kiev , here is how i do it .

Look for WGS under girls who are looking for a sponsor ,or sex for money .

For semi pros & so called freebies ,just don't mention the money for sex subject . .

It took me one about 40 pms and calls to get one student about 23 yrs to come down from Donetsk and see me in Kiev .

She was a student . She must have liked what she saw ,because she called me her dream GUY , LOL ????

Good if i was going on Ego trips ,but i prefer straight P4P .

Works out much cheaper in the end .

Jerboa ,you should try the Ukraine in the fall ,you will have a great time i am sure .

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I was in Kiev a couple of years ago and can strongly recommend Gia Escorts. I found them to be honest, efficient and absolutly reliable. I had a truly super girl from them. She was beautiful, spoke good English and did everything! Just look at their website and then phone or email them.

http://gia-escort.com/

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I was in Kiev a couple of years ago and can strongly recommend Gia Escorts. I found them to be honest, efficient and absolutly reliable. I had a truly super girl from them. She was beautiful, spoke good English and did everything! Just look at their website and then phone or email them.

http://gia-escort.com/

It is a convenient way of booking an escort but why you would want to pay those kind of rates in Ukraine, I do not know. There are much cheaper resources for booking escorts no doubt advertising the same girls.

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It is a convenient way of booking an escort but why you would want to pay those kind of rates in Ukraine, I do not know. There are much cheaper resources for booking escorts no doubt advertising the same girls.

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Yeah . Paying London Prices in Kiev to hardened Hoes , I don't Know ???

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