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Disappearing Profiles On The Other Site

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Although I (and others) have raised this issue in the past, without real clarification, a number of girls have informed me that competitors are hacking into their site and pulling it (seems to be a particular problem in the Wembley area). One girl (who did not show her number) responded promptly when I asked for it. However, when her site was "dismantled", her reply and telphone number disappeared.

I have now had a similar experience except, although the profile has disappeared, the following message appears " Sorry, this profile cannot be accessed at this time. It is most likely that it has been suspended due to suspicion of it's authenticity." However, the email with her number remains intact (have not been able to contact her yet).

Another woman, who is obviously a fake, lost her profile (she did not read emails, let alone reply). It was then reinstated (cropped up in my hotlist), only to disappear again.

All very odd. Any other mysterious activity?

Jack

PS 1.15 minute sessions 2. verified profiles usually show a "v" now 3. "enjoys list" generates a separate "does not enjoy" list.

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Not sure this follows on - in fact sure it doesn't - but a very reliable non-fake girl was trying to set up a new profile and it just wasn't accepted. Her crime? She innocently (EE), or cheekily without realising the implications, put her number in the text.

But now she doesn't seem able to set up her replacement. It's a pity when she is absolutely genuine and lovely and is just what the site should be promoting.

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I assumed the Don't enjoys list cost more? But perhaps that was because it doesn't appear on all profiles, which I guess could be because they haven't been updated.

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Not sure this follows on - in fact sure it doesn't - but a very reliable non-fake girl was trying to set up a new profile and it just wasn't accepted. Her crime? She innocently (EE), or cheekily without realising the implications, put her number in the text.

But now she doesn't seem able to set up her replacement. It's a pity when she is absolutely genuine and lovely and is just what the site should be promoting.

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I assumed the Don't enjoys list cost more? But perhaps that was because it doesn't appear on all profiles, which I guess could be because they haven't been updated.

Yes, you are right. If someone tries to beat the system (and avoid payment...even duplicate profiles), they seem to face eternal damnation/exclusion. I lost one of my regulars like that.

Jack

A Swiss girl had used the auto-response facility to email her telephone number to all enquiries (clever).

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Not sure this follows on - in fact sure it doesn't - but a very reliable non-fake girl was trying to set up a new profile and it just wasn't accepted. Her crime? She innocently (EE), or cheekily without realising the implications, put her number in the text.

But now she doesn't seem able to set up her replacement. It's a pity when she is absolutely genuine and lovely and is just what the site should be promoting.

That's a bit OTT, especially when they could easily automatically scan for numbers and give her at least one chance.

But then selfish arseholes running the thing is probably inevitable, and better than nobody running it, as far as I'm concerned.

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Not sure this follows on - in fact sure it doesn't - but a very reliable non-fake girl was trying to set up a new profile and it just wasn't accepted. Her crime? She innocently (EE), or cheekily without realising the implications, put her number in the text.

But now she doesn't seem able to set up her replacement. It's a pity when she is absolutely genuine and lovely and is just what the site should be promoting.

...

I assumed the Don't enjoys list cost more? But perhaps that was because it doesn't appear on all profiles, which I guess could be because they haven't been updated.

If she's using the same email address she won't be able to reregister as it's tied forever to the profile she originally had - a new one ought to sort it out (and a different computer wouldn't hurt).

As far as I know the 'Doesn't Enjoys' list was removed within 24 hours of being introduced, probably because it was stupid.

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Yes, you are right. If someone tries to beat the system (and avoid payment...even duplicate profiles), they seem to face eternal damnation/exclusion. I lost one of my regulars like that.

Jack

A Swiss girl had used the auto-response facility to email her telephone number to all enquiries (clever).

It always helps to store phone numbers Jack then you don't lose them :)

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What I find odd is that sometimes a girl with a huge feedback rating disappears briefly only to return later with exactly the same profile but with zero feedback as if to start all over again.

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What I find odd is that sometimes a girl with a huge feedback rating disappears briefly only to return later with exactly the same profile but with zero feedback as if to start all over again.

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What I find odd is that sometimes a girl with a huge feedback rating disappears briefly only to return later with exactly the same profile but with zero feedback as if to start all over again.

I once had a punt with a wg who had only recently started but already had about 29 (positive) feedbacks. When I offered a retrospective booking in order to give feedback, she declined as she felt too many entries (no pun intended) would put prospective punters off.

I have noticed more than one girl quite quickly reach the 90 feedbacks point then suddenly the rate slows, which may back this theory up.

Then again, there could be plenty of other reasons.

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I have a few regulars from the purple site, none of them have any feed back, 2 of them are have the Verification green tick, the other 4 just plod along. The whole feed back thing should be taken with a pinch of salt.

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I have a few regulars from the purple site, none of them have any feed back, 2 of them are have the Verification green tick, the other 4 just plod along. The whole feed back thing should be taken with a pinch of salt.

I agree entirely. Part of the problem with discussing the purple site on the Punternet forums is that some find it difficult to understand that the two sites have practically nothing in common - other than that they both deal with prostitution in the UK (and, collaterally, elsewhere in the world).

Punternet was set up to provide a 'coop' database of field reports filed by members (punters) for each other and for other punters, who did not need to become members but could not post field reports unless they did so. Members filing FRs built their credibility over time, as others compared their own experiences with (some of) the same WGs and (if also members) filed their own FRs. Use of the pejorative term 'first-time poster' grew and the author had a real incentive to post others. The Punternet forum was an afterthought, introduced somewhat later as as meeting place for members and some of the WGs with whom they shared their 'hobby'. It is only fairly recently, with the reintroduction of the forum(s) and then the surge of new members spawned by Harriet Harperson's blatant 'boosterism' a couple of years ago, that forum flood gates opened and collective discussions of individual WGs and groups of WGs (eg, our Oriental Fanciers Cabal, which I thoroughly enjoy) began to appear and the frequency of FR posting has seemed to decline. But Punternet is still a website ingeniously designed to be by punters, for punters and NOT for profit (though I am sure that G finds that the revenues generated by the SPDB and the SPAB useful in subsidising the board).

The Purple Site clearly was designed FOR profit and every service provided by the website has a cost (and I include the free access to the profiles on it, since they often are worth what you pay for them). It started out as a cash cow for the owners and it has continued to be a cash cow, BUT it can also be valuable source of detailed information on WGs (especially 'indies') and its constantly-improving search engine makes it easier both to find what you are looking for and to avoid what you are not, as long as you remember 'caveat emptor' and keep your upper brain fully engaged. And then verify with a brief phone conversation - no phone number, no conversation; no conversation, no booking! The Purple Site has NO value as a source of reliable reviews and anyone who suggests otherwise is deluded. Punternet stands alone as a (generally) reliable source of FRs/reviews - there is NO competition or comparison. :cool:

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I agree entirely. Part of the problem with discussing the purple site on the Punternet forums is that some find it difficult to understand that the two sites have practically nothing in common - other than that they both deal with prostitution in the UK (and, collaterally, elsewhere in the world).

Punternet was set up to provide a 'coop' database of field reports filed by members (punters) for each other and for other punters, who did not need to become members but could not post field reports unless they did so. Members filing FRs built their credibility over time, as others compared their own experiences with (some of) the same WGs and (if also members) filed their own FRs. Use of the pejorative term 'first-time poster' grew and the author had a real incentive to post others. The Punternet forum was an afterthought, introduced somewhat later as as meeting place for members and some of the WGs with whom they shared their 'hobby'. It is only fairly recently, with the reintroduction of the forum(s) and then the surge of new members spawned by Harriet Harperson's blatant 'boosterism' a couple of years ago, that forum flood gates opened and collective discussions of individual WGs and groups of WGs (eg, our Oriental Fanciers Cabal, which I thoroughly enjoy) began to appear and the frequency of FR posting has seemed to decline. But Punternet is still a website ingeniously designed to be by punters, for punters and NOT for profit (though I am sure that G finds that the revenues generated by the SPDB and the SPAB useful in subsidising the board).

The Purple Site clearly was designed FOR profit and every service provided by the website has a cost (and I include the free access to the profiles on it, since they often are worth what you pay for them). It started out as a cash cow for the owners and it has continued to be a cash cow, BUT it can also be valuable source of detailed information on WGs (especially 'indies') and its constantly-improving search engine makes it easier both to find what you are looking for and to avoid what you are not, as long as you remember 'caveat emptor' and keep your upper brain fully engaged. And then verify with a brief phone conversation - no phone number, no conversation; no conversation, no booking! The Purple Site has NO value as a source of reliable reviews and anyone who suggests otherwise is deluded. Punternet stands alone as a (generally) reliable source of FRs/reviews - there is NO competition or comparison. :cool:

Correct.

Other place unbeatable for searching, PN unbeatable for FRs,

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I have a few regulars from the purple site, none of them have any feed back, 2 of them are have the Verification green tick, the other 4 just plod along. The whole feed back thing should be taken with a pinch of salt.

I view ALL other site feedback as made up with the WG having to prove to my satisfaction by offering me a good or better service that it might be genuine.

I agree with Tiggy, Pnet offers the FRs and forum feedback that has credibility in my eyes, the other site offers the WGs that i punt with.

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I agree entirely. Part of the problem with discussing the purple site on the Punternet forums is that some find it difficult to understand that the two sites have practically nothing in common - other than that they both deal with prostitution in the UK (and, collaterally, elsewhere in the world).

Punternet was set up to provide a 'coop' database of field reports filed by members (punters) for each other and for other punters, who did not need to become members but could not post field reports unless they did so. Members filing FRs built their credibility over time, as others compared their own experiences with (some of) the same WGs and (if also members) filed their own FRs. Use of the pejorative term 'first-time poster' grew and the author had a real incentive to post others. The Punternet forum was an afterthought, introduced somewhat later as as meeting place for members and some of the WGs with whom they shared their 'hobby'. It is only fairly recently, with the reintroduction of the forum(s) and then the surge of new members spawned by Harriet Harperson's blatant 'boosterism' a couple of years ago, that forum flood gates opened and collective discussions of individual WGs and groups of WGs (eg, our Oriental Fanciers Cabal, which I thoroughly enjoy) began to appear and the frequency of FR posting has seemed to decline. But Punternet is still a website ingeniously designed to be by punters, for punters and NOT for profit (though I am sure that G finds that the revenues generated by the SPDB and the SPAB useful in subsidising the board).

The Purple Site clearly was designed FOR profit and every service provided by the website has a cost (and I include the free access to the profiles on it, since they often are worth what you pay for them). It started out as a cash cow for the owners and it has continued to be a cash cow, BUT it can also be valuable source of detailed information on WGs (especially 'indies') and its constantly-improving search engine makes it easier both to find what you are looking for and to avoid what you are not, as long as you remember 'caveat emptor' and keep your upper brain fully engaged. And then verify with a brief phone conversation - no phone number, no conversation; no conversation, no booking! The Purple Site has NO value as a source of reliable reviews and anyone who suggests otherwise is deluded. Punternet stands alone as a (generally) reliable source of FRs/reviews - there is NO competition or comparison. :cool:

I agree with most of this and especially that the other site has NO value as a source of reviews or feedback in my eyes, WGs can block negative feedback or give a punter bad feedback in revenge for him giving her negative. It has more holes in it than a string vest in my view. Billy Liar has more credibility. However it simply cant be beaten as a location tool to find WGs in my experiences. I view that site as one that exists simply to make a profit, its not there to in anyway help punters and is complicit in allowing scams to continue knowing it will get the credits the scam produces anyway. This site attempts to help punters. A few punters even think that site sets up scam profiles itself to make credits off punters, it wouldnt surprise me to be honest, i wouldnt trust them to do up my shoelaces, but use it to contact WGs with displayed phone numbers, on principle they have never and will never get a penny of credits of me. :)

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"It started out as a cash cow"

£1 per day to show mobile number

£5 per day to show as "Available today"

£1.50p to book a space for next days escort search front page.

Nice little earner, ok you can get some of this back via Private gallery view credits.

They do tend to shut down the scammers/mullti profilers not because its against their rules but they pocket the profile credits the girls have earnt flogging the private gallery pictures so they get tolerated then do a credit sweep, nice earner!

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PN unbeatable for FRs,

Agreed, but we need more of them and I think it is important that Punternet members continue to post FRs on punts they may have had with WGs who maintain profiles on the Purple Site - good, bad or indifferent - and that this is acceptable to Admin as long as no reference is made to that website by name, the WG's 'profile name' there is NOT used to identify her and only the WG's mobile number may be used (having first gained her approval to do so) as her 'contact'. Frankly, we need more FRs on Punternet in order for it to continue to be a top-notch, reliable reference site. Admin is devoted to maintaining the integrity of Punternet and it is up to us, the members, to cooperate in making it so.

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"It started out as a cash cow"

£1 per day to show mobile number

£5 per day to show as "Available today"

£1.50p to book a space for next days escort search front page.

Nice little earner, ok you can get some of this back via Private gallery view credits.

They do tend to shut down the scammers/mullti profilers not because its against their rules but they pocket the profile credits the girls have earnt flogging the private gallery pictures so they get tolerated then do a credit sweep, nice earner!

Indeed, they cant and i imagine dont lose, to them the scammers are a win win until and unless they start to affect their profits. And as i said a few punters believe they set up at least some of these scam profiles themselves, again they cant lose if they do do this.

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"It started out as a cash cow"

£1 per day to show mobile number

£5 per day to show as "Available today"

£1.50p to book a space for next days escort search front page.

Nice little earner, ok you can get some of this back via Private gallery view credits.

They do tend to shut down the scammers/mullti profilers not because its against their rules but they pocket the profile credits the girls have earnt flogging the private gallery pictures so they get tolerated then do a credit sweep, nice earner!

We all agree with your assessment, JKay, but many of us (including Smiths and your good self) who understand the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the Purple Site make regular and good use of it. Repeatedly belabouring the shortcomings of the site to warn the others but then using it ourselves could be conceived as hypocritical by some. 'Political correctness' is usually decried on the Punternet forums. :)

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I agree with most of this and especially that the other site has NO value as a source of reviews or feedback in my eyes, WGs can block negative feedback or give a punter bad feedback in revenge for him giving her negative. It has more holes in it than a string vest in my view.

"Most of this'? What exactly do you disagree with? :o

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"Most of this'? What exactly do you disagree with? :o

I dont know whether the SP Announcements Board side of Pnet is for profit or not. This isnt in anyway a criticism by the way. :)

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Agreed, but we need more of them and I think it is important that Punternet members continue to post FRs on punts they may have had with WGs who maintain profiles on the Purple Site - good, bad or indifferent - and that this is acceptable to Admin as long as no reference is made to that website by name, the WG's 'profile name' there is NOT used to identify her and only the WG's mobile number may be used (having first gained her approval to do so) as her 'contact'. Frankly, we need more FRs on Punternet in order for it to continue to be a top-notch, reliable reference site. Admin is devoted to maintaining the integrity of Punternet and it is up to us, the members, to cooperate in making it so.

I agree totally in principle with all of this Tiggy7, but I often wonder how useful a PN FR listing solely a girl's name, location and phone number actually is. Many, many girls advertise on the other site using profile names that are different from their working christian name. I would have thought that most punters wouldn't bother phoning a girl on the basis of simply a PN FR and a phone number. A mention of the girl's profile name on the other site would be SOOOOO much more useful in terms of whether to go and see a positively reviewed lady. That way I could navigate to her profile and view her photos and see what services were on offer.

I understand G's hatred of the site and recognise his concerns are valid, but it is the premiere tool for locating WGs in the UK and the fact that FR authors can't point directly to that site might well be one reason why the numbers of FRs are in decline.

I personally love the other site, have been using it for years and find it relatively easy to spot most scamsters and poor WGs on there. My success rate using it is no worse than all the other mechanisms available.

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I personally love the other site, have been using it for years and find it relatively easy to spot most scamsters and poor WGs on there. My success rate using it is no worse than all the other mechanisms available.

That goes for me too, and is maybe another reason I don't bother somuch with FRs

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Oops, this was supposed to appear in the last post

I understand G's hatred of the site and recognise his concerns are valid, but it is the premiere tool for locating WGs in the UK and the fact that FR authors can't point directly to that site might well be one reason why the numbers of FRs are in decline.

The last two girls I would have written FRs for wouldn't have been accepted, so you have a good point there.

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I agree totally in principle with all of this Tiggy7, but I often wonder how useful a PN FR listing solely a girl's name, location and phone number actually is. Many, many girls advertise on the other site using profile names that are different from their working christian name. I would have thought that most punters wouldn't bother phoning a girl on the basis of simply a PN FR and a phone number. A mention of the girl's profile name on the other site would be SOOOOO much more useful in terms of whether to go and see a positively reviewed lady. That way I could navigate to her profile and view her photos and see what services were on offer.

I understand G's hatred of the site and recognise his concerns are valid, but it is the premiere tool for locating WGs in the UK and the fact that FR authors can't point directly to that site might well be one reason why the numbers of FRs are in decline.

I personally love the other site, have been using it for years and find it relatively easy to spot most scamsters and poor WGs on there. My success rate using it is no worse than all the other mechanisms available.

I understand your frustration but I also understand G's contempt for the lack of quality control ('truth in packaging') on the Purple Site. Punternet is his site and I am content to play by his rules. I personally do not feel the need for his filtering process but I am a pretty seasoned punter and I accept that others who are less experienced may be grateful for it. I scan the FR list weekly, paying particular attention the 'mobile number only' ones since I am mainly interested in 'indies', and if one of these sounds interesting I use the Purple Site's search engine to see if I can find the WG there. Even if the profile name is different, her location may well lead me to her. But I am not that bothered about reading someone else's FR unless I know the author and have some confidence in his judgement. WGs vary in their performance and so do I. :) Edited by Tiggy 7

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Punternet is his site and I am content to play by his rules.

Oh, believe me Tiggy 7, so am I. I was simply pointing out that a corollary of G's stance on the other site might well be an ongoing reduction in PN FR numbers as that site continues to grow in popularity and usage. Also, PN FRs are one of the few objective weapons newbies have in combatting poor service on the other site and by not allowing direct reference, it is possible that this approach actually supports the misuse of the site rather than helping address it. Just a thought.

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