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Just wait until the secon half of 2010

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don't worry, you don't have to wait that long because Sweden will hold the EU presidency in 2009 not 2010

here: http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/10768/nocache/true/dictionary/true

Press release Swedish Government

24 October 2008

Swedish model against prostitution and trafficking to be promoted

Swedish Government gives Swedish institute (http://www.si.se/templates/StartPage____3.aspx )

14,7 million (US$18) to be used 2008-2010 to prepare programs for visiting foreign delegations and to conduct presentations in other countries.

http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/10333/a/114149

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I just love the distorted morality aspects of all this.

The Germans produce loads of hard core porn, scat and the like, the Dutch make and promote porn films with 17 year olds in, the Danish produce Rodox and other hard core stuff, yet they want to ban hookers from hotel bedrooms. Priceless - and full of hypocrisy. Typical easy target.

What next, send hotel staff on training courses about how to spot a hooker? Checking the waste bin in rooms for used condoms and semen stained tissues? Listening at doors for the ooohhs and arrrhhhh? :)

I think if they did a proper survey, they'd find that there is a big surge of the demand for WGs during major events and trade fairs.

And yet again, there ls the mythical link between prostitution and trafficking, ignoring those ladies who want to be in the sex trade of their own free will. And I fully accept there are many ladies who are forced in some way, shape or form. Is that any different to the way big corporations use sweat shop labour to produce cheap clothes? That's a form of prostitution too.

And a sleaze-free certificate? Now, that is really taking the piss, considering most MPs and MEPs are full of sleaze, slime and out for what they can get.

Sorry, I'm just a cynical old fart.......

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I just love the distorted morality aspects of all this.

The Germans produce loads of hard core porn, scat and the like, the Dutch make and promote porn films with 17 year olds in, the Danish produce Rodox and other hard core stuff, yet they want to ban hookers from hotel bedrooms. Priceless - and full of hypocrisy. Typical easy target.

Neither the Germans nor the Dutch have proposed banning anything related to porn and prostitution, with the exception that the Dutch recently made it illegal to produce porn involving animals.

Rodox? wow you are old! tell me, do you have a collection of super 8 color climax films as well :)

Private is the world's biggest porn producer, it was founded by some guy in Sweden in the 60's, but he had to move the business to Spain years ago because the fems where constantly at his throat, so there's no double standard at all - "no sex please we're Swedish"

That is funny because Sweden was the the 2nd country (after Denmark) to legalize harcore porn(W.Germany was the 3rd) and now they are busy trying to ban it again

"porn is the theory and rape is the practice"

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don't worry, you don't have to wait that long because Sweden will hold the EU presidency in 2009 not 2010

here: http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/10768/nocache/true/dictionary/true

Press release Swedish Government

24 October 2008

Swedish model against prostitution and trafficking to be promoted

Swedish Government gives Swedish institute (http://www.si.se/templates/StartPage____3.aspx )

14,7 million (US$18) to be used 2008-2010 to prepare programs for visiting foreign delegations and to conduct presentations in other countries.

http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/10333/a/114149

The Swedish ministry of propaganda in action, doing its best to export the law...

Conference of Chairs of Parliamentary Committees on Justice

A balanced approach to legal security and combating organised crime, with a special focus on trafficking for sexual purposes

Stockholm - 11-12 October 2009

The head of the Swedish National Criminal Police, Therese Mattsson, gave an account of international police cooperation in combating trafficking in human beings for sexual purposes. She described how the Swedish law on the purchase of sexual services is very useful to the police in this work.

The subsequent debate discussed the effectiveness of this law on the purchase of sexual services, and whether the purchase of sexual services in general should be criminalised.

Ms Therese Mattsson(a few excerpts from her speech):

First of all, we do not separate prostitution and trafficking in human beings

Opinion polls have consistently shown that 70-80 percent of the Swedes

are satisfied with the law that prohibits the purchase of sexual services.

Today the question is more about how the law that prohibits the purchase of

sexual services is being enforced, rather than questioning the law itself.

We are often accused of pushing prostitution underground but prostitution

activities are available to those who desire them, and cannot be underground

since the buyers need to be able to find the women.

Before the law came into force, we were told that prohibiting men from buying a

sexual service would lead too much more violence against women in

prostitution.We have looked into that specifically, but the police and the social services do not report any increases in violence.

The prostitution industry is one of the most violent places for a woman to be -other than her home!

For example women in prostitution risk being murdered, raped, beaten and

tortured - not only by pimps, but also by the men who purchase them.

I have attended many international police meetings where police officers have

been scratching their heads in order to come up with proposals on how we

should combat trafficking in human beings. They call for better and stronger

legislation, victim protection programs, surveillance techniques, resources etc

etc.

When I then ask if they think that prohibiting the purchase of sexual services can

prevent trafficking in human beings, they look like they just swallowed a lemon.

But, if men did not buy women in prostitution we would not have to call for all

these measures and resources.

Prostitution is therefore a

serious barrier to gender equality in all societies. Prostitution is considered a

serious problem that is harmful, in particular, to the prostituted woman or child

but also to society at large.

more here http://www.riksdagen.se/templates/R_Page____19298.aspx

participants from the UK

UNITED KINGDOM

House of Lords

Peter BOWNESS - Member of the House of Lords European Union Sub-Committee on Law

and Institutions

Staff

Mike THOMAS - Legal Adviser to European Union Committee

House of Commons

Alan BEITH - Chairman, Justice Committee

Martin SALTER - Member of Home Affairs Committee (S&D)

Staff

Gemma BUCKLAND - Public Policy Specialist

Sarah HARRISON - Official, Home Affairs Committee

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