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Are Most Of The Cancelations From New "clients" Not Genuine?

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Recently, or for about last few years I am having vast proportions of cancellations from the guys I have not met before. I am sure I far not the only one who noticed it. When I started to work in this industry the amount of cancellations from potential clients was on the level of about 20%-30%. Now: its as much as 80%. I am talking about firm, definite made bookings.

What I can not understand, that I have hardly any cancellations from regulars, (last one was 4 months ago) but from the new guys its almost constant. In fact: if bookings with a new client do go ahead, its rather a miracle! lol

I just looked on my April record of bookings. (The month here I have not been away).

Bookings from regulars: 10 bookings. Amount of cancellations from them: None. (one was from me, but its beside the point)

Bookings from new guys: 13 bookings. Amount of cancellations: 9 (which is almost 70%). Only 4 bookings materalised.

Yes, I understand the old cliché: Bookings do get canceled for various reasons and especially in this business more then in any other.

What I can not understand, why new guys canceling them significantly more often then regulars? After all, generally both groups must have similar circumstances and reasons for not attending: urgent meeting at work, families, suspicious partners, chances that theirs kids might be sick, and so on and on. So why is such discrepancy?

Guys: Do you tend to cancel meeting more often with a girl you have not seen before, oppose to the girl who is your regular?

Girls: did you notice the same occurrence?

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Yep. It used to be that if I had an advance booking from an old or new client I was 99% confident it would take place. Now, like you, if it's a new guy am amazed if they actually happen.

I had 2 today as a matter of fact. Both booked yesterday and one of them phoned to confirm this morning around 9. He left a voicemail with his details (it was to be an outcall) and asked me to phone him back. I called him around 10 and his phone was off and I haven't heard from him since. The other one just didn't confirm.

Of course I also turned down two other bookings because of it and am bloody fuming.

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I keep getting people emailing to confirm AFTER having spoken to me on the phone so they are obviously pleased with my voice. Then as you say, cancel.

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I'm noticing the same, definite trend too, I do wonder if it's because there is so much choice out there and guys are booking more than one girl, deciding which one they'll actually see on the day? Others will say "I'll definitely let you know if I can't make it", or "I'll definitely be there" only to never hear from them again.

Also a lot of clients seem to be vague re actual appointment times, "10ish", "4 or 4.30pm ish" seems to be the order of the day.

Regular clients, or those I've met once or twice already don't display the same behaviours, so I tend to prioritise and favour their bookings as a result. Years ago 90 odd percent of bookings made by new clients went ahead like clockwork.

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Must be a nightmare to you all, getting cancellations especially if you have turned away other customers because you cannot fit them in.

In my business (training) we charge clients for cancellation if they cancel with less than 2 weeks notice, but I know you cannot do that!

As a punter I am pleased to say that in over 10 years of punting I have only had to cancel once, and that was because a business trip was cancelled at the last minute, irrespective of whether it was a lady I had seen before or not.

Do any of the ladies on here have any techniques for minimising cancellations?

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Do any of the ladies on here have any techniques for minimising cancellations?

Retirement!

I also think deposits are reasonable. 10% of booking value in phone top-ups for example.

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Recently, or for about last few years I am having vast proportions of cancellations from the guys I have not met before. I am sure I far not the only one who noticed it. When I started to work in this industry the amount of cancellations from potential clients was on the level of about 20%-30%. Now: its as much as 80%. I am talking about firm, definite made bookings.

What I can not understand, that I have hardly any cancellations from regulars, (last one was 4 months ago) but from the new guys its almost constant. In fact: if bookings with a new client do go ahead, its rather a miracle! lol

I just looked on my April record of bookings. (The month here I have not been away).

Bookings from regulars: 10 bookings. Amount of cancellations from them: None. (one was from me, but its beside the point)

Bookings from new guys: 13 bookings. Amount of cancellations: 9 (which is almost 70%). Only 4 bookings materalised.

Yes, I understand the old cliché: Bookings do get canceled for various reasons and especially in this business more then in any other.

What I can not understand, why new guys canceling them significantly more often then regulars? After all, generally both groups must have similar circumstances and reasons for not attending: urgent meeting at work, families, suspicious partners, chances that theirs kids might be sick, and so on and on. So why is such discrepancy?

Guys: Do you tend to cancel meeting more often with a girl you have not seen before, oppose to the girl who is your regular?

Girls: did you notice the same occurrence?

I dont cancel punts, i will do anything including hitch-hiking due to running my cars battery down as i did a while back in my punt that nearly wasnt to make a punt, its a top priority to me, only family or friends being ill or suchlike would ensure i cancelled.

Personally i would imagine more newbies to you would cancel than regulars because the regular must highly rate you already and knows you offer a good service, if like me he wants to continue to receive such a service mucking you about is likely to piss you off like it would all WGs. Obviously there will sometimes be genuine reasons to cancel but if a WG is a newbie to me i take any reason given with a pinch of salt, it might or might not be genuine.

Why you have experienced this in the last few years i have no idea. Timewasting punters do genuine ones no favours thats for sure.

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Yup, definitely getting worse! Although I find these things come in phases. I get a week of constant cancellations and no shows then it gets better again for a bit.

I do wonder if men make more than one booking to minimise their risk of being cancelled and ending up with no booking? Or maybe some men call to see what you sound like, make a booking but keep ringing around and then forget you if someone they prefer/cheaper/ closer is available.

Its a pain in the arse, but I suppose the men who have experienced flakey escorts might just not care because they have been messed about.

I don't think deposits would ever work, there just isn't enough trust in this game.

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I'm not sure if it helps or is representative, but I've had a grand total of 12 actual encounters, with 10 different girls. So on 10 occasions I've been meeting someone for the first time. I've cancelled planned meetings at least 3 times that I can remember. On all occasions it has been unavoidable for me and I've given at least 24 hours notice. In 2 of the cases I rebooked and kept the appointment, in the third case it was today I cancelled and the SP in question is not working again until next month but I plan to re-book.

So there are reliable punters out here! Even ones you personally have not met before.

Do you think any of the no-shows are malicious timewasters as opposed to just unreliable timewasters? Is there any chance it is someone trying to book you up with fictitious appointments so that they (or their girl) might get more business as a result?

I would not pay a deposit for a meeting, I'm afraid. It's a real hassle for those of who work in cash for obvious reasons. And there's no allowance for a genuine reason for cancelling even with good notice.

I suppose all you can do is keep good records of the TWs, but do give some lenience for those of us who might be forced to cancel. I would always try to give notice but I can imagine situations where it is not possible, eg family or work issues where finding a way to make a "sensitive" phone call is impossible (though I would always explain afterwards if that happened).

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I think in all walks of life their are plenty of time wasters out there.......how to reduce the do not show is difficult

I have never ever let anyone down on purpose as a no show. I normally find if the lady has a nice manner that also brings out the niceness in the gent

Everybody has to earn a living and nobody likes to be let down, so why do it

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Retirement!

I also think deposits are reasonable. 10% of booking value in phone top-ups for example.

Dream on, i would NEVER pay a deposit in punting. Its an on the day cash business, has been for my 29 years punting and i cant see that changing.

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Dream on, i would NEVER pay a deposit in punting. Its an on the day cash business, has been for my 29 years punting and i cant see that changing.

I have to agree.

If I was a man who did this I would not pay a deposit.

You often see on a ladies profile that if she is on tour she will want a deposit for a pre booked booking.

There must be a lot of time wasters around then if the ladies are asking this.

Lucy :)

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Seems like a definite trend so far. I think some can be accounted for by double booking and not having the courtesy to let the WG they end up not seeing know, no excuse though as i dont agree with double booking as its unfair on the one you dont see and she may well of turned another punter away to fit you in.

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what rada doesnt say (prob cos she doesn't know) is if these are experienced punters or guys going for their first punt.

mebbe part if the problem is the scene is becoming more mainstream so more guys are thinking of it and bottle. in the olden days one had to eb a little more tenacious to know where to look.

or mebbe some ladies (present company excepted) piss punters about so now they book 2 in case one doesnt happen

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... there just isn't enough trust in this game.

And isn't that a real pity. In my view, things would be a whole lot more enjoyable if there was more trust, which I guess is why I prefer to see someone more than once.

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I haven’t found an increase in cancellations and I never (well, twice in the last few years) get no-shows. This, I reckon, is due to my very strict booking procedure, which I realise would put a lot of potential clients off but it does mean I don’t get this shit. But what I have found has increased a lot lately is the number of men emailing and asking for services I don’t offer (e.g. email sex chat/webcam) then getting passive aggressive with me when I say no. Far more iffy little comments from disappointed men who didn’t get the answer they were hoping for even though I am polite. And for some weird reason I’ve had lots of questions about my personal/love life from complete strangers who then can’t understand why I won’t discuss my partner :huh:

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. And for some weird reason I’ve had lots of questions about my personal/love life from complete strangers who then can’t understand why I won’t discuss my partner :huh:

Why on earth would someone make the effort to secure a booking with you, only to sit and discuss your partner? Surely surely surely they'd be far more interested in the beautiful lady whose company they have?

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I was brought up to keep any commitments I make. It really irks me to have to cancel a booking and if I ever do, it's for the most compelling of reasons. Guys and girls who don't display the same level of commitments to bookings really get on my tits. The guys because it might encourage ladies to double book and the girls because I HATE being left high and dry.

I have no idea why gents cancelling should be on the increase. I must admit, I haven't seen an equivalent increase in ladies cancelling on me.

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I'll be honest, before I went through with my first punt I booked and later cancelled 7 different girls, due to nerves getting in the way then deciding to just sort myself out instead

In my defence, I always booked well in advance and gave the girl atleast 24 or often 48 hours notice

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Why on earth would someone make the effort to secure a booking with you, only to sit and discuss your partner? Surely surely surely they'd be far more interested in the beautiful lady whose company they have?

Sorry, I wasn't very clear, these are men who I've never met, who are just asking questions via email. I have no idea why they ask some of the questions they do. Nowt as queer as folk :wacko:

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I'll be honest, before I went through with my first punt I booked and later cancelled 7 different girls, due to nerves getting in the way then deciding to just sort myself out instead

In my defence, I always booked well in advance and gave the girl atleast 24 or often 48 hours notice

thanks for your honesty there.

taking the first step into this lark is no joke. I wonder how many bottle it and never try again?

mebbe hookers are just to public, easily found on the internet whereas before you had to be fairly determined to find the sites.

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How annoying and strange, if someone makes a commitment to meet they should do so unless something has come up but that should be the exception rather than the rule

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thanks for your honesty there.

taking the first step into this lark is no joke. I wonder how many bottle it and never try again?

mebbe hookers are just to public, easily found on the internet whereas before you had to be fairly determined to find the sites.

I think this is also behind some of the situation too.

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Regular clients, or those I've met once or twice already don't display the same behaviours, so I tend to prioritise and favour their bookings as a result. Years ago 90 odd percent of bookings made by new clients went ahead like clockwork.

Aaargh! Hope this won't count against me when I try to make my first booking when I'm in your area in the Autumn!!!

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I'll be honest, before I went through with my first punt I booked and later cancelled 7 different girls, due to nerves getting in the way then deciding to just sort myself out instead

In my defence, I always booked well in advance and gave the girl atleast 24 or often 48 hours notice

You will not be alone in having done this SWP.

When I arrange to meet with an "escort virgin", I can tell just by the tone of his voice during the phone chat if he is one who may bottle it.

I will always say at end the call, that if he changes his mind for what ever reasons to just give me as much notice as possible and that I will be understanding.

I recognise that to do this is a very big step for some gentlemen.

Sometimes that step is just one step too far.....

Lucy :)

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