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I'm interested (academically, you understand) in the iconography of escort photographs!

Years ago an Open University course module invited me to look at the little bits around the subject of old master portraits - later I noticed that the official photographs of Generals that get stuck up in guardrooms on a "if you see this guy, for fuck's sake salute and quick", seem to be of two sorts: beret and jersey, heavy wool, or combat jacket, which says, "I'm a real soldier, like you!" and the other seated behind an expensive desk in service dress with gleaming sam browne belt on AND a pen in his hand, which says, "I can read, write and use the telephone, and I'll get a good well paid job when I retire!"

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What photographs turn punters on, and what poses do the ladies think work best for their business?

(I'm excluding from consideration the snap-shots taken by the dimmer girls on their telephones, or by their boy-friends on point'n shoot cameras unless anyone actually finds this naivity appealing!!)

For me, there are shots of the lady languidly stretched across a bed, with warm lighting, with variations of how wide apart her legs are. I ask whether the lube, kleenex, clock and condom on the bed side table add or detract from the "come to bed with me, now" message?

There are all variety of shots of a lady with a telephone, sometimes with the coil-cord from the handset to the bit with the dial, passing through her cleavage. This says, "If you want me, call me now! The number is at the top of the page!" and I like them.

I find head and shoulder shots, sometimes from behind, and then through the mirror, with the lady applying lipstick to her open mouth exciting. The image of the phallic lipstick in the mouth is obvious, but the heavy, bright lipstick also says "WG!" to someone of my age who was in London pre-Wolfenden.

A glass of wine in the picture, seems to me to hint that the punter gets a little charm, and not just an in up down and out punt!

Ones that puzzle me are ladies in states of partial undress in expensive fitted kitchens, often reclining on the work-top. If this says anything to me, it is "My kitchen cost £25k, and YOU, Sir, are going to pay for it!" which I find a turn off.

Another generic shot which I don't really get, is a lady in the shower or bath, smiling happily, with lots of soap-suds covering her "bits". OK so she's clean! Good! Years ago when full frontals would probably be prosecuted unless of marble or painted by Goya, I could understand, but today? Anyone any ideas?

I chanced on Lou4fun's site the other day - she has one shot showing her naked (but for a watch-strap, which doesn't count) bare foot on a tarmaced road in high sun. Must have been bloody hot on her feet, and whatever it does for you, it does absolutely nothing for me!

Anyone from either side any ideas?

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Subtlety wins for me every time. I don't need to see anatomical pictures, but those with a sense of fun and a hint of sin work very well.

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It's nice when she's got her flaps hanging out :lol:

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I only have a few decent pics, hoping to get some more taken next week. For me, it was about giving people some idea what I looked like, some flavour of the personality, and avoiding anything really graphic. Not because I am a prude, but because I find that stuff deeply, deeply unsexy. Makes me feel like I'm about to conduct a gynaecological examination when I see profiles with that sort of stuff on them.

Possibly my favourite shot of all time is one LondonLydia has on her website. It's a round bathroom mirror, you can see a pair of high heeled shoes and her ankles on either side, and reflected in the mirror...........something intimate.

It manages to be deeply erotic, arty, and very clever. Am working my way up to asking her if I can nick the idea.......

Really looking forward to hearing the replies on this one. And I give fair warning here, any good ideas are soooooo getting nicked!

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I'm interested (academically, you understand) in the iconography of escort photographs!

Years ago an Open University course module invited me to look at the little bits around the subject of old master portraits - later I noticed that the official photographs of Generals that get stuck up in guardrooms on a "if you see this guy, for fuck's sake salute and quick", seem to be of two sorts: beret and jersey, heavy wool, or combat jacket, which says, "I'm a real soldier, like you!" and the other seated behind an expensive desk in service dress with gleaming sam browne belt on AND a pen in his hand, which says, "I can read, write and use the telephone, and I'll get a good well paid job when I retire!"

Coming now to our lovely friends:

What photographs turn punters on, and what poses do the ladies think work best for their business?

(I'm excluding from consideration the snap-shots taken by the dimmer girls on their telephones, or by their boy-friends on point'n shoot cameras unless anyone actually finds this naivity appealing!!)

For me, there are shots of the lady languidly stretched across a bed, with warm lighting, with variations of how wide apart her legs are. I ask whether the lube, kleenex, clock and condom on the bed side table add or detract from the "come to bed with me, now" message?

There are all variety of shots of a lady with a telephone, sometimes with the coil-cord from the handset to the bit with the dial, passing through her cleavage. This says, "If you want me, call me now! The number is at the top of the page!" and I like them.

I find head and shoulder shots, sometimes from behind, and then through the mirror, with the lady applying lipstick to her open mouth exciting. The image of the phallic lipstick in the mouth is obvious, but the heavy, bright lipstick also says "WG!" to someone of my age who was in London pre-Wolfenden.

A glass of wine in the picture, seems to me to hint that the punter gets a little charm, and not just an in up down and out punt!

Ones that puzzle me are ladies in states of partial undress in expensive fitted kitchens, often reclining on the work-top. If this says anything to me, it is "My kitchen cost £25k, and YOU, Sir, are going to pay for it!" which I find a turn off.

Another generic shot which I don't really get, is a lady in the shower or bath, smiling happily, with lots of soap-suds covering her "bits". OK so she's clean! Good! Years ago when full frontals would probably be prosecuted unless of marble or painted by Goya, I could understand, but today? Anyone any ideas?

I chanced on Lou4fun's site the other day - she has one shot showing her naked (but for a watch-strap, which doesn't count) bare foot on a tarmaced road in high sun. Must have been bloody hot on her feet, and whatever it does for you, it does absolutely nothing for me!

Anyone from either side any ideas?

Ideally blatant naked pictures showing the WGs whole body, no covering up of the stomach area for example. I also like certain posing angles but i wont know till i see them on a site/profile as it all depends on the individual WG, its not a generic thing.

If not naked wearing stocking and suspenders so nearly naked, i have no interest in fully clothed pictures, i much prefer to be turned on immediately and i really dislike any form of tease, but i understand some punters like that so WGs have a wide range of tastes to cater for.

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From a parlour perspective, I love the ones with a lady leaning on a bed with a towel across the bedspread. A photo gets bonus points whenever the towel is artistically scrunched up into the shape of a shell. George McCoy was especially good at taking pics like that.

Pics with tissues in the background always interest me, if only because I'm nosey and want to know what brand is used - Tesco Extra Value or the really expensive stuff that is really too good to be used just for wiping a despunked cock on.

One trend I have noticed in recent years is that very few escort or parlour pics are now taken with a mask hiding the face.

As far as escorts go, the ones taken in hotel rooms are always good for a laugh. Nothing says high-class courtesan to me as much as a photo with a door in the background that clearly shows a fire evacuation plan or rules & regulations.

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I only have a few decent pics, hoping to get some more taken next week. For me, it was about giving people some idea what I looked like, some flavour of the personality, and avoiding anything really graphic. Not because I am a prude, but because I find that stuff deeply, deeply unsexy. Makes me feel like I'm about to conduct a gynaecological examination when I see profiles with that sort of stuff on them.

Possibly my favourite shot of all time is one LondonLydia has on her website. It's a round bathroom mirror, you can see a pair of high heeled shoes and her ankles on either side, and reflected in the mirror...........something intimate.

It manages to be deeply erotic, arty, and very clever. Am working my way up to asking her if I can nick the idea.......

Really looking forward to hearing the replies on this one. And I give fair warning here, any good ideas are soooooo getting nicked!

Subtle way of doing it Lovely! Of course you can!

I have decided having read this kind of discussion before that you're never going to please everyone!

I personally think a mix of more typical glammy shots and fun self taken ones work. I tend to put the more creative ones in my gallery and the silly fun ones on my blog.

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Sexy, provocotive, erotic, yet simple...

These are the best picks in my opinion...again, what's going through each individual's mind when taking/viewing is the key....

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Ideally blatant naked pictures showing the WGs whole body, no covering up of the stomach area for example. I also like certain posing angles but i wont know till i see them on a site/profile as it all depends on the individual WG, its not a generic thing.

If not naked wearing stocking and suspenders so nearly naked, i have no interest in fully clothed pictures, i much prefer to be turned on immediately and i really dislike any form of tease, but i understand some punters like that so WGs have a wide range of tastes to cater for.

I'm totally with Smiths' first paragraph. I want a girl to look physically fit when she's undressed, and the only way a girl can show me that is by being undressed in her photos. I like a toned midriff and legs and I don't like big, floppy tits (or even big firm tits very much), so I want to see what hers are like.

I also agree with the second half of Smiths' second paragraph. Attempting to tease me is a quick way to turn me off or bore me.

However, unlike Smiths I dislike stockings and suspenders. To me they are fakery, since nobody wears them in normal life, and I hate fakery just as much as I hate tease - in fact to me fakery and tease are the same sort of thing. Besides, stockings and suspenders destroy the line of the leg, and I am very much a leg man.

Another area where I differ from Smiths is that I wouldn't say I have no interest in fully clothed pictures. In addition to wanting to know what a girl's body is like, I want to know what she is like as a person, and that can come over in totally unpredictable ways. Generally she doesn't convey it in any conscious manner, since the impression that someone wants to give is totally different from the person they actually are. Instead I get my idea of who she is from seeing how she stands or sits, how she holds her head, the underlying facial expression rather then the deliberate smile, and so on. These things can come over just as easily from a fully clothed picture as from a naked one. In fact they often come across more strongly, since being photographed fully clothed is accepted as normal whereas being photographed naked is out of the ordinary, so a girl is more likely behave naturally when she is photographed fully clothed.

For a similar reason, if a girl isn't naked I prefer her to wear her ordinary clothes. I want her as much as possible to be herself. Any form of fancy dress (including BDSM wear) is to me just another form of fakery.

So my ideal portfolio will contain a selection of pictures, including several naked and a few clothed. As for the background, I really don't care unless the picture is clearly taken in the girl's own room. If it is, then that will add to my impression of her as a person.

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So my ideal portfolio will contain a selection of pictures, including several naked and a few clothed. As for the background, I really don't care unless the picture is clearly taken in the girl's own room. If it is, then that will add to my impression of her as a person.

All too often you will see piles of dirty washing in the corner, the remote control for the TV, um-made bed etc.

All goes to show she doesn't care too much.

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Sexy, provocotive, erotic, yet simple...

One out of four ain't bad...I just have a picture of my bra clad boobs - that's it. I keep thinking 'ooh I need to get more pictures taken', but I still haven't gotten around to it, and am a very busy young lady. Though that might speak more of how rubbish Oxford seems to be for punting? Or how fabulous that bra is (very fabulous, I may have it framed).

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I have decided having read this kind of discussion before that you're never going to please everyone!

I personally think a mix of more typical glammy shots and fun self taken ones work. I tend to put the more creative ones in my gallery and the silly fun ones on my blog.

You must be right. Reading Irgendeiner's OP, I realised I identified with none of his reactions to the various sorts of photos. I thought that was pretty interesting, but that's just me.

snap-shots taken by the dimmer girls on their telephones, or by their boy-friends on point'n shoot cameras? Yes I do find this naivity appealing - it reassures me what she looks like 'unposed'

shots of the lady languidly stretched across a bed, with warm lighting, with variations of how wide apart her legs are. That's fine. I want to see what the effect is when she's trying to lure you. Lube, kleenex, clock and condom on the bed side table... I really don't notice! Nor would I think twice if I saw it.

shots of a lady with a telephone, sometimes with the coil-cord from the handset to the bit with the dial, passing through her cleavage. This says, "If you want me, call me now! The number is at the top of the page!". These do nothing for me. Coil-cords are not erotic, nor is the act of telephoning.

I find head and shoulder shots, sometimes from behind, and then through the mirror, with the lady applying lipstick to her open mouth exciting. OK, I'll go with you here. I think it's the voyeuristic element.

A glass of wine in the picture, seems to me to hint that the punter gets a little charm, and not just an in up down and out punt! Really? It suggests to me that she's been drinking. Which, unless it's in every picture, is neither here nor there.

Ones that puzzle me are ladies in states of partial undress in expensive fitted kitchens, often reclining on the work-top. If this says anything to me, it is "My kitchen cost £25k, and YOU, Sir, are going to pay for it!" which I find a turn off. No way! I like it, because it says to me "I like nice surfaces, and I could be persuaded to just drop everything and fuck you on one". Not that this has happened... with a WG (privately is another matter)...

Another generic shot which I don't really get, is a lady in the shower or bath, smiling happily, with lots of soap-suds covering her "bits". OK so she's clean! Good! Years ago when full frontals would probably be prosecuted unless of marble or painted by Goya, I could understand, but today? Anyone any ideas? OK, I'm with you, suds are not sexy and this is not the time to be coy.

I chanced on Lou4fun's site the other day - she has one shot showing her naked (but for a watch-strap, which doesn't count) bare foot on a tarmaced road in high sun. Must have been bloody hot on her feet, and whatever it does for you, it does absolutely nothing for me! I'm not a foot fetishist, but the whole of Lou4fun bare on a tarmaced road in high sun would let me know that she's not going to be a shrinking violet and is a bit creative.

Thanks for genuinely making me think how differently people react

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Personally I do like for there to be a bit of an unknown element when you arrive for a punt so I like the idea of the coy suggestive poses rather than the sort of view a doctor gets when the girls up in the stirrups!

For me it's a part of the suspension of disbelief for that hour or so, but then again I'm not one of the guys that's just looking for a fleshy hole to plunge into for a little while and then leave. I like the whole undressing and conversation part of a punt too. A bit like when you finally get a girl home who you've met and she looked so fucking amazing in that hot little dress, you still wont know until you get her out of it if she looks just as hot naked as she did on the dance floor.

That's part of the turn on for me.

As I've said in another thread concerning escort pics, I have two of my all time favourite pics of my all time favourite escorts burned forever in my mind. Neither of them show any particular nudity but I find them amazingly erotic, enough so that I would gladly have them on my wall as art.

One of them shows no nudity at all (or body even), just a picture of the escorts eye looking directly at the camera and that picture screams to me that I want to meet this person. She had other pictures of herself that were slightly more showing so I could see how delicious her body was too but it was that picture that I always see first when I see her site.

The other is of an all time great escort, just sat naked on a bed, facing away from the camera but turned very slightly toward it. Almost all of her body is in shade apart from her perfect backside and her hair. Does it for me every time.

If she's reading this then she'll know which picture I'm talking about and I think she'll know which picture I like of the other girl too

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I'm interested (academically, you understand) in the iconography of escort photographs!

Years ago an Open University course module invited me to look at the little bits around the subject of old master portraits - later I noticed that the official photographs of Generals that get stuck up in guardrooms on a "if you see this guy, for fuck's sake salute and quick", seem to be of two sorts: beret and jersey, heavy wool, or combat jacket, which says, "I'm a real soldier, like you!" and the other seated behind an expensive desk in service dress with gleaming sam browne belt on AND a pen in his hand, which says, "I can read, write and use the telephone, and I'll get a good well paid job when I retire!"

Coming now to our lovely friends:

What photographs turn punters on, and what poses do the ladies think work best for their business?

(I'm excluding from consideration the snap-shots taken by the dimmer girls on their telephones, or by their boy-friends on point'n shoot cameras unless anyone actually finds this naivity appealing!!)

For me, there are shots of the lady languidly stretched across a bed, with warm lighting, with variations of how wide apart her legs are. I ask whether the lube, kleenex, clock and condom on the bed side table add or detract from the "come to bed with me, now" message?

There are all variety of shots of a lady with a telephone, sometimes with the coil-cord from the handset to the bit with the dial, passing through her cleavage. This says, "If you want me, call me now! The number is at the top of the page!" and I like them.

I find head and shoulder shots, sometimes from behind, and then through the mirror, with the lady applying lipstick to her open mouth exciting. The image of the phallic lipstick in the mouth is obvious, but the heavy, bright lipstick also says "WG!" to someone of my age who was in London pre-Wolfenden.

A glass of wine in the picture, seems to me to hint that the punter gets a little charm, and not just an in up down and out punt!

Ones that puzzle me are ladies in states of partial undress in expensive fitted kitchens, often reclining on the work-top. If this says anything to me, it is "My kitchen cost £25k, and YOU, Sir, are going to pay for it!" which I find a turn off.

Another generic shot which I don't really get, is a lady in the shower or bath, smiling happily, with lots of soap-suds covering her "bits". OK so she's clean! Good! Years ago when full frontals would probably be prosecuted unless of marble or painted by Goya, I could understand, but today? Anyone any ideas?

I chanced on Lou4fun's site the other day - she has one shot showing her naked (but for a watch-strap, which doesn't count) bare foot on a tarmaced road in high sun. Must have been bloody hot on her feet, and whatever it does for you, it does absolutely nothing for me!

Anyone from either side any ideas?

I like that word 'Iconography'

To me it suggests much more than 'Heres my tits and fufu. make your mind up, its here if you want it ography' so often found on websites,

I don't blame the ladies represented on their site's, we're not expected to be marketing experts and portrait photographers as well as everything else.

Do you want photographs to show the product, or the experience as it were? What makes for a "Poor" photo is as subjective as 'whos the most beautiful or whos the best experience' questions. I can sometimes get very green eyed at the composition of a photo I come across. Not because the subject is beautiful or has the body of Aphroditie (which often isnt the case) but because subject apart, its a fantastic photograph in its own right. I want that photographer!

So when you look at a picture should we not be judging the photographer and not the escort? A good photographer can transform a subject. Thats why we call it art and thats why a McDonalds Burger looks nothing like the picture on the menu although its the same thing! (allegedly)

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I like that word 'Iconography'

To me it suggests much more than 'Heres my tits and fufu. make your mind up, its here if you want it ography' so often found on websites,

I don't blame the ladies represented on their site's, we're not expected to be marketing experts and portrait photographers as well as everything else.

Do you want photographs to show the product, or the experience as it were? What makes for a "Poor" photo is as subjective as 'whos the most beautiful or whos the best experience' questions. I can sometimes get very green eyed at the composition of a photo I come across. Not because the subject is beautiful or has the body of Aphroditie (which often isnt the case) but because subject apart, its a fantastic photograph in its own right. I want that photographer!

So when you look at a picture should we not be judging the photographer and not the escort? A good photographer can transform a subject. Thats why we call it art and thats why a McDonalds Burger looks nothing like the picture on the menu although its the same thing! (allegedly)

The WG is responsible for picking the photos she chooses to use though if an Indie anyway i assume so i think it is her to be judged not a photographer. They take the photos which she then decides which ones to display on her site/profile.

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The WG is responsible for picking the photos she chooses to use though if an Indie anyway i assume so i think it is her to be judged not a photographer. They take the photos which she then decides which ones to display on her site/profile.

Then she should only be critised on her choice of photographer, and not the way she appears. A bad photograph could make the most beautiful woman look frumpy and dumpy.

She ( whoever 'she' is ) may not be gods gift to the monkey spanker, but again a good photographer should be able to divert your eye to everything positive about her.

I'm not so diplomatic to realise the Silk Purse Sows ear ethos does not occasionally come into play. so I do see your point of view

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However, unlike Smiths I dislike stockings and suspenders. To me they are fakery, since nobody wears them in normal life

Whereas I think that's exactly the reason I love them so much. Vive la difference !

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The WG is responsible for picking the photos she chooses to use though if an Indie anyway i assume so i think it is her to be judged not a photographer. They take the photos which she then decides which ones to display on her site/profile.

Correct

Then she should only be critised on her choice of photographer, and not the way she appears. A bad photograph could make the most beautiful woman look frumpy and dumpy.

She ( whoever 'she' is ) may not be gods gift to the monkey spanker, but again a good photographer should be able to divert your eye to everything positive about her.

I'm not so diplomatic to realise the Silk Purse Sows ear ethos does not occasionally come into play. so I do see your point of view

Correct again and my first multi-quote post, wayhey.

Finding the right photographer for you can be tricky, wrong one will just get you at all the wrong angles pretty much like a lot of 'amateurs' except than plenty of 'amateurs' can take good photos. Also most WGs are not professional models, and how you pose can be highly dependent on whether or not you click with your photographer.

During a photo shoot you may get between 30 and 100 images, many of which just won't be suitable for whatever reason (expression not right, caught something that'll take too much PS to remove, or just not a flattering angle). Anywho if you've not got on with your photographer, don't see eye to eye you can very much end up with a set that you either write off or try to find the best from a bad lot.

I'm nosy and have looked at oodles of websites, one thing that always makes me laugh is the 'holding up the wall pose', along with the 'I'm doing an impression of a dog on my bed' position. On the other hand I've also seen some fabulous images and am always very impressed with Dollymopp, and Adore Amy's quite individual efforts (not that 'effort' is really an appropriate word for their very natural, but individual, sexy and tasteful shots).

Smarming over now.

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