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after reading another current thread on here would it be worthwhile for a new catagory to be opened up so that WGs that offer unprotected sex can be named & shamed?

Shamed into withdrawing from the practice?

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Could be a plan but i dont think the readership of this board is enough to stamp out the practice. Also I suspect ladies that offer it do so cos there is a demand for it, and a thread here wont diminsh that.

sad but true, I feel.

On a related topic, found a lady on AWank who has ticked bareback and unprotected sex but in her FAQs has the question 'do you do bareback?' to which she has replied 'no no no'. I give up. (Not that rare i have seen)

Another expression that has crept in is 'au naturale' so watch for that.

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after reading another current thread on here would it be worthwhile for a new catagory to be opened up so that WGs that offer unprotected sex can be named & shamed?

Shamed into withdrawing from the practice?

We could start one up as well about all the guys who try to slip it in without as well.

Lucy :)

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Why? Why? Why, a thousand times why?

However, isn't this a) a banned topic here and B) personal choice (even if not a very good one) ?

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might be a good idea lucy, as CP says it wont stamp it out but could be a warning to everyone

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We could start one up as well about all the guys who try to slip it in without as well.

Lucy :)

This is something I've never understood, why would anybody want to do this?????

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So whom are we appointing to decide and police what perfectly legal services consenting adults may offer to other consenting adults who deliberately seek them out and choose to partake of them?

In other words, should I suddenly decide to offer bareback everything from tomorrow morning onwards, who the hell is going to tell me I can't? 'Naming and shaming' is for people who have done something wrong, not for those whose chosen activities involve drawing the line in the sand in a different spot to where you would. If you don't want to do it (and I don't either) that's fine, why not just use a condom and spend a little less time concerning yourself with what others are up to?

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So whom are we appointing to decide and police what perfectly legal services consenting adults may offer to other consenting adults who deliberately seek them out and choose to partake of them?

In other words, should I suddenly decide to offer bareback everything from tomorrow morning onwards, who the hell is going to tell me I can't? 'Naming and shaming' is for people who have done something wrong, not for those whose chosen activities involve drawing the line in the sand in a different spot to where you would. If you don't want to do it (and I don't either) that's fine, why not just use a condom and spend a little less time concerning yourself with what others are up to?

YEs it's legal.

But you can't discuss it on here. To me, that is a huge flaw in what is otherwise an educated, enlightening and enjoyable forum.

Without being able to discuss this, we are not being true to ourselves, punters or escorts.

So, whatever we post on unprotected, BB, call it what you want will not be treated fairly, just deleted.

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YEs it's legal.

But you can't discuss it on here. To me, that is a huge flaw in what is otherwise an educated, enlightening and enjoyable forum.

Without being able to discuss this, we are not being true to ourselves, punters or escorts.

So, whatever we post on unprotected, BB, call it what you want will not be treated fairly, just deleted.

I've just scoured the "forum rules and FAQs" link and seen nothing that says you can't discuss BB on here.

In fact, it seems to be one of those regularly recurring topics on here and the threads remain without being deleted.

Mind you, I am with Amy. Starting a witch hunt thread on something that is legal (albeit stunningly stupid) seems a bit off to me.

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YEs it's legal.

But you can't discuss it on here. To me, that is a huge flaw in what is otherwise an educated, enlightening and enjoyable forum.

Without being able to discuss this, we are not being true to ourselves, punters or escorts.

So, whatever we post on unprotected, BB, call it what you want will not be treated fairly, just deleted.

Thats generally not been the case in my years posting on here, there have been countless BB related threads. Yes one was deleted for some reason recently though.

Its also the case that a punter cant do a FR about a BB punt as that is clearly against FR rules. In the rules on here it doesnt say discussion of BB isnt allowed.

What always happens though is BB threads go the same way every time, most posters being anti-BB like me, one or two if that being pro it and the odd one or two that post up statistics about it. They go round and round in circles. However, thats the case with many subjects plus crucially to me such threads might never of been read by some newbie members so i think its good for them to be able to read threads on this important matter. I dont make the rules though of course.

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So whom are we appointing to decide and police what perfectly legal services consenting adults may offer to other consenting adults who deliberately seek them out and choose to partake of them?

In other words, should I suddenly decide to offer bareback everything from tomorrow morning onwards, who the hell is going to tell me I can't? 'Naming and shaming' is for people who have done something wrong, not for those whose chosen activities involve drawing the line in the sand in a different spot to where you would. If you don't want to do it (and I don't either) that's fine, why not just use a condom and spend a little less time concerning yourself with what others are up to?

Being a realist not an idealist i know BB is going to continue whatever action is taken on this forum which represents a very minute fraction of WGs and punters. So knowing that i would prefer those WGs that advertise they offer BB to continue advertising it so i know who to definitely avoid.

The problem for me arises when a WG who doesnt advertise she offers BB offers it to me anyway, which is thankfully very rare but has happened unfortunately resulting in me immediately leaving.

Overall though its not bad service as such though, i.e. its not like being ripped off or scammed if the punter gets the BB he requires (although i find it personally disgusting) and i assume the amount of WGs who advertise it means enough punters want it to make it worth the WGs while offering it over not so it would be naming and shaming just for offering a service some punters actually require presumably. :)

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I assume there are plenty of punters around who want bb otherwise no-one would be offering it. Any thread dedicated to 'naming and shaming' those who offer it (which as far as I'm concerned is none of my business anyway) would in effect be a great advert for them and I don't think that's what this forum is, or should be about.

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I assume there are plenty of punters around who want bb otherwise no-one would be offering it. Any thread dedicated to 'naming and shaming' those who offer it (which as far as I'm concerned is none of my business anyway) would in effect be a great advert for them and I don't think that's what this forum is, or should be about.

Well said Sarita, i didnt consider the great advert bit but yes you are quite right in my view. :)

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So whom are we appointing to decide and police what perfectly legal services consenting adults may offer to other consenting adults who deliberately seek them out and choose to partake of them?

In other words, should I suddenly decide to offer bareback everything from tomorrow morning onwards, who the hell is going to tell me I can't? 'Naming and shaming' is for people who have done something wrong, not for those whose chosen activities involve drawing the line in the sand in a different spot to where you would. If you don't want to do it (and I don't either) that's fine, why not just use a condom and spend a little less time concerning yourself with what others are up to?

Its more about warning the punters here about ladies that offer BB. I dont think we should harbor pretensions that punternet can force a WG to not offer a particular service. However it is important to remember that this board is for sharing information and information on dangerous behavior should be amongst the top topics.

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Its more about warning the punters here about ladies that offer BB. I dont think we should harbor pretensions that punternet can force a WG to not offer a particular service. However it is important to remember that this board is for sharing information and information on dangerous behavior should be amongst the top topics.

In my opinion it would only serve to advertise those providers, there is a demand out there whether you believe it or not and some guys do seek it out.

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In my opinion it would only serve to advertise those providers, there is a demand out there whether you believe it or not and some guys do seek it out.

So be it! If someone wants BB, let them. You cant mother/police everyone. But others who dont want it should be clearly warned and informed.

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Oh and how will we actually know what is posted is true?

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So be it! If someone wants BB, let them. You cant mother/police everyone. But others who dont want it should be clearly warned and informed.

They are informed as the WGs advertise they offer BB on their profiles on the purple site which is the main BB offering site i know of, so the punter is aware. If the punter isnt aware of those profiles or that site then posting about it on here could attract some to it and Galahad has posted his view on that site in the Hall of Shame board below so i assume he wouldnt want to do that. After all he doesnt like or rate that site so why would he want people reading or posting on his site to be possibly steered to that one.

Its only when the punter gets offered BB like myself where the WG didnt advertise she offered it that it would be good in my view to inform other punters. I would do this by posting a thread up but certainly a Sticky thread wouldnt disappear into the archive of course which would happen soon after a punter posts on most threads. However this happens with most threads, only the Mods and G can ultimately decide what constitutes a sticky obviously.

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Its more about warning the punters here about ladies that offer BB. I dont think we should harbor pretensions that punternet can force a WG to not offer a particular service. However it is important to remember that this board is for sharing information and information on dangerous behavior should be amongst the top topics.

What about ladies who do BB in their personal lives, either with casual pickups or with a regular partner (who may or may not do it with God alone knows how many others himself)? Do you think that unprotected penetration is somehow more (or less) dangerous if money is changing hands? Just because somebody doesn't (or does) advertise it doesn't mean they don't (or do) offer it, and just because somebody doesn't do it with punters doesn't mean they never do it ever.

All punters and providers can do is look after themselves. It's not that different to the recent thread about somebody who got a dose via OWO and then whinged a bucketful about it - if you're that bothered, wear a condom. Everybody has to decide the risks that are acceptable to them, but if you do take preventable risks you have to also take responsibility for the consequences, whether your personal cut off point is kissing or BB anal.

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As ever Amy had hit the nail on the head.

Lucy.

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Oh and how will we actually know what is posted is true?

We wont but we rarely do now. Most of the time it comes down to whether you believe a post or FR, proof positive isnt necessary on here, the punter is believed unless a rebuff on a FR or a post on here proves to admins satisfaction that what has been posted is not true. The default position is to believe the punter as its a punting site. :)

I can see that maliciously posting WGs offer BB is fraught with difficulties though, as the impact could be immense on her business, as it could be now with malicious FRs. :)

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As ever Amy had hit the nail on the head.

Lucy.

Thank you Lucy ;).

Going back to what you said earlier in the thread, a punter attempting BB without the lady's consent is committing an offence (to the best of my knowledge at least, although since the actual sex was consenting it's not rape). A lady offering BB (or OWO, or hardsports, or whatever else) is not.

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What about ladies who do BB in their personal lives, either with casual pickups or with a regular partner (who may or may not do it with God alone knows how many others himself)? Do you think that unprotected penetration is somehow more (or less) dangerous if money is changing hands? Just because somebody doesn't (or does) advertise it doesn't mean they don't (or do) offer it, and just because somebody doesn't do it with punters doesn't mean they never do it ever.

All punters and providers can do is look after themselves. It's not that different to the recent thread about somebody who got a dose via OWO and then whinged a bucketful about it - if you're that bothered, wear a condom. Everybody has to decide the risks that are acceptable to them, but if you do take preventable risks you have to also take responsibility for the consequences, whether your personal cut off point is kissing or BB anal.

We can only be concerned with punting on here though in my view Amy, as you say who knows what a person does outside punting or indeed when your not with them which with a WG or a punter is most of the time.

Surely the line is what happens within punting, not what happens within and outside punting. Quite right of course about the best we can do is look after our own sexual health, its all we know for sure to be true.

I dont agree with naming and shaming for the reasons given above but those WGs that do offer BB but dont advertise they do are very dangerous people to my mind, but of course so are the presumably many punters who require BB. However, this site can only do so much, its usually in the main anti-BB within punting. :)

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Thank you Lucy ;).

Going back to what you said earlier in the thread, a punter attempting BB without the lady's consent is committing an offence (to the best of my knowledge at least, although since the actual sex was consenting it's not rape). A lady offering BB (or OWO, or hardsports, or whatever else) is not.

Indeed, we are now in a moral question in this thread. Although perfectly legal AND consentual between adults should WGs who offer BB be named and shamed for the act of offering it in the first place. I assume they wouldnt offer it if punters werent interested in it as it would result in little business so the punters wanting it are equally as responsible here in my opinion. This isnt the case if a punter gets ripped off or scammed by a WG, she is 100% responsible for that and the punter a victim, he is not a victim here unless BB were to be forced upon him, he can like me walk if its offered despite not being advertised as on offer of course. :)

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Indeed, we are now in a moral question in this thread. Although perfectly legal AND consentual between adults should WGs who offer BB be named and shamed for the act of offering it in the first place. I assume they wouldnt offer it if punters werent interested in it as it would result in little business so the punters wanting it are equally as responsible here in my opinion. This isnt the case if a punter gets ripped off or scammed by a WG, she is 100% responsible for that and the punter a victim, he is not a victim here unless BB were to be forced upon him, he can like me walk if its offered despite not being advertised as on offer of course. :)

I do remember a punter here posting about a lady who had got carried away (or just didn't care) and basically climbed on him and got on with it without one although he immediately stopped her. He was as horrified as one of us would be if a punter stuck it in without a condom and I would be amazed if any lady here who has been working for more than a few months hasn't had it tried at least once; I don't think it was malicious, but in my view that would merit a warning. I'm still not sure whether it would belong on the public board, though.

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