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Public Inquiry: Prostitution In Cheltenham

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As stated in the article, "There is no red light district so prostitution takes place behind closed doors" - this is a good thing! So, their focus should be on making sure the scene consists solely of consenting adults, and then leaving it in peace, safely out of the public eye!

If the UK instituted NZ-style laws, legalizing and regulating escorts and brothels, that would truly be a major step towards eliminating sex slavery.

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If the UK instituted NZ-style laws, legalizing and regulating escorts and brothels, that would truly be a major step towards eliminating sex slavery.

It's Australia where prostitution was legalised and regulated, although laws and processes vary from state to state much as they do in the US, and like the US it has had no positive effect whatever as it's just opened up a gigantic black market for traffickers and the like to flourish. They're no longer semi-visible but completely under the radar.

NZ decriminalised all prostitution and brothels and apart from a minimal regulatory system for brothels where more than five (if memory serves) prostitutes work there is no government interference; 'escorts' are not regulated. It's the NZ model that activist groups have been lobbying for for years. Decriminalisation and legalisation are not the same thing.

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Yeah, I thought that's what you meant but that's decriminalisation, not legalisation. Legalisation is a bloody nightmare for all involved and for more reasons than I can be bothered to type on a BlackBerry :).

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be careful for what we wish for. any sort of regulations will mean fire regulations, health and safety stuff, and equality stuff and all that malarkey.

say they made brothels subject to local authority control. First there would be consultation where residents could have their say. Then they would need planning permission. The building would have to be fit for purpose, cos if there was a fire and someone fell down a fire escape the local authority would be in trouble.

The revenue would check up on the working time directive and minimum wage regulations.

need I go on.....?

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I lived in cheltenham for over 5 years from 2000.

Punting in cheltenham for me over that period was 0! I had to head up to birmigham or london to find an escort..

Overhype bull I think..... and if you dont belive me, check the FRs... slim pickings for cheltenham...

And, as someone who used to search locally when I lived there... there really was nothing...

Even a big hoohar about prosititution it turned out to be a local pub that wanted strippers an had to apply for local permission...

Lot of hot air....

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It's Australia where prostitution was legalised and regulated, although laws and processes vary from state to state much as they do in the US, and like the US it has had no positive effect whatever as it's just opened up a gigantic black market for traffickers and the like to flourish. They're no longer semi-visible but completely under the radar.

Certainly some states of Australia are crap. New South Wales ain't too bad.

Reading the Cheltenham article, I used to update a clients site every year around the gold cup as she went there for business. She was gorgeous. I do wonder if there should be some representation at these local meetings from other than concerned locals, councillors and police.

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This Cheltenham thing was sparked by a local councillor visiting the USA, and having someone mention to her that they thought Cheltenham was a hotbed of prostitution. This in turn seemed to be related to Gold Cup week, when the WG population temporarily increases by a factor of 10.

There have just been a couple of brothel raids by the police, and a couple are in court - an english bloke, and a far eastern lady who has overstayed her visa.

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This Cheltenham thing was sparked by a local councillor visiting the USA, and having someone mention to her that they thought Cheltenham was a hotbed of prostitution. This in turn seemed to be related to Gold Cup week, when the WG population temporarily increases by a factor of 10.

Thanks for the background. Interesting.

Any news on the outcome of this inquiry?

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A working group to "conduct research" over the next few months, instead of a "public" inquiry.

Sadly this means it won't have the same defined terms of reference or evidential requirements as a public enquiry. It will allow a totally biased process and report to be used as the basis for whatever public policy they were wanting to put in place.

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Sadly this means it won't have the same defined terms of reference or evidential requirements as a public enquiry. It will allow a totally biased process and report to be used as the basis for whatever public policy they were wanting to put in place.

Quite.

The stupid thing is that if comments elsewhere on this forum are accurate Cheltenham is a punting desert, so just what are these idiots getting so worked up about??

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The stupid thing is that if comments elsewhere on this forum are accurate Cheltenham is a punting desert, so just what are these idiots getting so worked up about??

For some people just the possibility (never mind likelihood) of one WG in a 50-mile radius of them is too much for them to bear.

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Like I said, during Gold Cup week there is a massive but temporary increase in the number of WGs.

I've punted in Cheltenham many times in the past, so I think it's a bit harsh to say it's a punting desert, but of course it doesn't have as many ladies or establishments as cities like Bristol or Birmingham. The local Cheltenham/Gloucester newspapers always have some ads in the classified section.

However, the police in Cheltenham has previously always been fairly tolerant of prostitution (unlike nearby Gloucester) and there are a couple of parlours that have been going for years without any hassle. The police only get involved if there is a suggestion that the girls are illegal immigrants and/or trafficked, as is the case with the court case I mentioned. And I fully support that.

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The stupid thing is that if comments elsewhere on this forum are accurate Cheltenham is a punting desert, so just what are these idiots getting so worked up about??

Prostitution isn't really tolerated by the police In Gloucestershire. The former Chief Constable, Professor Tim Brain was ACPO’s spokesperson on prostitution and related vice matters, and greatly contributed to the creation of ACPO’s own prostitution strategy in 2004.

What there is tends to be in Cheltenham - and not Gloucester. I don't think that's anything to do with different attitudes between police divisions. I think that it's more likely because Cheltenham is more affluent than Gloucester. Gloucester is not very nice. Think "Fred and Rose West" and you're not far off.

As a result most of the prostitution in C&G is underground and run by asians, especially Chinese. Cheltenham was hit fairly heavily in Pentameter II. As I recall, one of the Cheltenham raids was featured in the Gail Porter documentaries regarding Pentameter II.

This raid was last week:

http://www.thisisglo...tail/story.html

These people were sentenced in 2009:

http://www.thisisglo...tail/story.html

Meanwhile down the M5 in Bristol, Avon & Somerset police adopt a more tolerant and relaxed attitude. As a result it's a lot more open. Everyone, including the police, knows where the brothels are and who owns them. Consequently the trafficking of exploited girls isn't as great a problem as it could be given the size of the area in comparison with Cheltenham.

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I've lived closed to Cheltenham for seven years now, and I have to say the number of WGs that operate in the area you seem to be able to count on one hand. There are a couple that operate in flats near the train station, and a few Thai and Chinese based brothels. That's it, if you follow Cheltenham and surrounding areas on the other site you'll see a spike around the races in March. Even then it's nothing like Bristol and certainly not Birmingham.

I seem to remember a TV documentary a couple of years back that focused on the sex industry in Cheltenham but it seemed to focus on one or two Thai parlours, in practice there ain't much there, trust me I've been looking! What it comes down to is that fact that Cheltenham is very affluent and prostitution is generally frowned upon, so even the odd occurrence seems to get jumped on.

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As a result most of the prostitution in C&G is underground and run by asians, especially Chinese.

These people were sentenced in 2009

Immediate imprisonment, but no deportation, at least as reported. Are they "British" chinese, so immune?

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Gloucestershire police are intolerant of prostitution so that would include Cheltenham too. There are not too many girls working there but there is also not such a big demand. I toured there a bit in the past and even though doing ok, it is not as busy as other areas because perhaps it is frowned upon a bit? You get different mentalities in different areas. I was also told by a couple of clients that some girls who had toured there in the past as a pair on a regular basis were told to move on by the police.

As for the increase in girls during the Gold Cup I can only assume that it would be girls doing outcalls only. I thought of going there during the Gold Cup and the hotel/flat prices are about £400-£600 per day so you gotta see a lot of clients to make it even!

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Going by the amount of AW profiles featuring obviously pimped foreign girls shutting down brothels in Cheltenham has had precisely the opposite of the intended effect. TBH from 2000-2005 there was a reasonable parlour scene - normally three active at any time with mainly UK national girls. It was great being able to punt on demand.

 

Now there are a handful of reliable indies who generally need to be booked in advance. Wish it could be more like Manchester or MK.

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Its the races. Girls pour into cheltenham when there are major events on. I was told it was fantastic to work there for the week but to make sure I worked out the correct rate via irish euros...as most guys pay in these that week. They come over for the races and party hard then go home again. The hotels cost a fortune though and are booked so far in advance its ridiculous. I was also advised by one girl who does this every year that if I charged less than 150 british pounds per hour the irish guys wouldnt book me as they would think im crap or have no self worth lol...I never went, hotels were booked up.

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Can  anyone give any links to these asian working girls in Cheltenham?  I don't know of any, and cheltenham would be really close for me.

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Can  anyone give any links to these asian working girls in Cheltenham?  I don't know of any, and cheltenham would be really close for me.

Dunno Mate I live nearby, have'nt got a clue. Though the plod seem to be able to find them.

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