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A Last Chance

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I'm going to give my wife a last chance, a final, final, final chance. As it is and has been for ages, the only opportunity I get to have any sex at all is about 2.30 or 3 in the morning when she finally goes to bed. Quick sex once in a while, but with her only letting me and doing nothing herself, is possible at that time only. But, probably due to age, I just can't cum when I try at such a late time. And any other time during the day or evening is never allowed. I'm now too embarrassed to even suggest such a thing.

However, although there's still a fair bit going on in her life, a good chunk of her very active and busy life has stopped temporarily because it's the summer break (classes, etc.). So the next month or so is my best chance. She knows perfectly well I want it and she also knows I can't finish and get release when it's extremely late and time to sleep. So since I can't even bring myself to ask her (I hate to feel a pest) it's up to her to give me a chance to have sex during the day since things have quietened down a bit just now. "Do you want to make love?" is what I want to hear. If that happens and all goes well, I'll strongly suggest to her that if she'd only let me do that once a fortnight or so, and during the day or evening, I'll be a happy and contented man. (And I will definitely not pay for sex again... but I won't say that to her, of course!).

I've paid a very nice girl a couple of times in the last 10 weeks and it felt damned good! Couldn't cum inside then either but probably more due to nerves than anything else. Surprisingly, I felt hardly any guilt at all afterwards. At present I find myself thinking more and more about sex with a woman every day because I'm dying for it again; but I'm deliberately holding back and waiting. It's not easy but I somehow want to give my wife this last chance, maybe so that my conscience can be completely clear in the future, I don't know why except that I just want to give her this final chance..

Anyway, If nothing sexual happens between my wife and myself in the next few weeks and the middle of August has come and gone, the chance will be over, the chance of me not being a cheating husband, that is. The chance of there being no lies between us. I'll continue to be as good and caring a husband as I can be and give her all the love and attention she needs or wants - but from then on I'll be a cheat, and not feel bad about being one, and will pay around once a month to have sex with another woman who will let me. I can't really afford more often. Spending too much on it would make me feel guilty again.

So I feel it's all up to my wife now. I'll give hints from time to time that I want sex with her but won't actually ask her outright and put her on the spot. I just can't do this any more. So what she does or does not do or instigate in the next 4 weeks or so will decide the issue once and for all!

Sorry about the length of this - this has become more liike a huge private blog.... but I just wanted to get this off my chest and share my very private thoughts with other men (and God knows who else!) who've maybe experienced similar feelings and ended up paying for sex. It's all so damned galling because we get on really, really well together. Everything's absolutely fine except that I need sex and she doesn't. But this one thing is too important to me to ignore or do without.

However, for me, there is still hope! ('Always hoping' and all that!) But somehow I'm not very optimistic. We'll just have to see. The next few weeks will settle it for good. After that her life will get busier again, so now's the time. For me, there's no point being in a state of indecision for ever. I'm glad I've finally decided what to do. Although she doesn't know it It's really my wife who will decide it for me.

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2 points. And dont worry, Im not going have a go at you

What is the age difference between you and your wife? You always suggest you're reasonably matuire - is she significantly younger? Are there children?

This is important when it comes to the 2nd point: guilt. I feel none. There is no emotional attachment - I like the girls but it's not an affair. Moreover, I now much prefer this situation. Rather than have boring and unemotional, irregular sex. I'm having a grand old time with enthusiastic (if not genuine) beautiful women 25 yrs younger than me

I suspect this will become another " is it immoral for happily (sic) married men to punt" Answer: who gives a fuck, I love it

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The difference is nearly 20 years. Many a woman might still be interested at her age. The children are in their 20s. I would find another debate about morals boring too. It was really Spok who started that! No, it's really not that. It's just that I actually hate deceiving her. This is not because I think I'm a good person or something. I just like everything to be open between us, everything above board, no secrets, nothing like that. Secretiveness and having to be careful is something I hate. I can't be bothered with it, to be honest!

If it turns into anything - which it might not - I hope it doesn't turn into any kind of moral debate - we've had enough of these!

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First thought that crosses my mind reading your post is that your wife may be seeing another man, don't think for one moment that she is, i'm not judging her per se, i am just saying if i was in your situation, that would be my first thought. But then, i am suspicious of everybody!

If the kids are in their 20's, im guessing your wife in her late 40's to early 50's? She should still have some sexual desires.

Have you though about both seeing a sex therapist or something? I'm not getting into a moral debate as i am not married so dont know if i ever do tie the knot whether punting will be over for me or not, but what i would say is that in your particular situation i dont think you will be solving the problem seeing escorts, as if you still love your wife, and she does you, then you won't re-create that intimacy with perfect strangers.

Or, be bold, sit down, and without losing your temper, ask her what the problem is. I'm afraid being 'too busy' is not an acceptable answer.

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I'm going to give my wife a last chance, a final, final, final chance. As it is and has been for ages, the only opportunity I get to have any sex at all is about 2.30 or 3 in the morning when she finally goes to bed. Quick sex once in a while, but with her only letting me and doing nothing herself, is possible at that time only. But, probably due to age, I just can't cum when I try at such a late time. And any other time during the day or evening is never allowed. I'm now too embarrassed to even suggest such a thing.

However, although there's still a fair bit going on in her life, a good chunk of her very active and busy life has stopped temporarily because it's the summer break (classes, etc.). So the next month or so is my best chance. She knows perfectly well I want it and she also knows I can't finish and get release when it's extremely late and time to sleep. So since I can't even bring myself to ask her (I hate to feel a pest) it's up to her to give me a chance to have sex during the day since things have quietened down a bit just now. "Do you want to make love?" is what I want to hear. If that happens and all goes well, I'll strongly suggest to her that if she'd only let me do that once a fortnight or so, and during the day or evening, I'll be a happy and contented man. (And I will definitely not pay for sex again... but I won't say that to her, of course!).

I've paid a very nice girl a couple of times in the last 10 weeks and it felt damned good! Couldn't cum inside then either but probably more due to nerves than anything else. Surprisingly, I felt hardly any guilt at all afterwards. At present I find myself thinking more and more about sex with a woman every day because I'm dying for it again; but I'm deliberately holding back and waiting. It's not easy but I somehow want to give my wife this last chance, maybe so that my conscience can be completely clear in the future, I don't know why except that I just want to give her this final chance..

Anyway, If nothing sexual happens between my wife and myself in the next few weeks and the middle of August has come and gone, the chance will be over, the chance of me not being a cheating husband, that is. The chance of there being no lies between us. I'll continue to be as good and caring a husband as I can be and give her all the love and attention she needs or wants - but from then on I'll be a cheat, and not feel bad about being one, and will pay around once a month to have sex with another woman who will let me. I can't really afford more often. Spending too much on it would make me feel guilty again.

So I feel it's all up to my wife now. I'll give hints from time to time that I want sex with her but won't actually ask her outright and put her on the spot. I just can't do this any more. So what she does or does not do or instigate in the next 4 weeks or so will decide the issue once and for all!

Sorry about the length of this - this has become more liike a huge private blog.... but I just wanted to get this off my chest and share my very private thoughts with other men (and God knows who else!) who've maybe experienced similar feelings and ended up paying for sex. It's all so damned galling because we get on really, really well together. Everything's absolutely fine except that I need sex and she doesn't. But this one thing is too important to me to ignore or do without.

However, for me, there is still hope! ('Always hoping' and all that!) But somehow I'm not very optimistic. We'll just have to see. The next few weeks will settle it for good. After that her life will get busier again, so now's the time. For me, there's no point being in a state of indecision for ever. I'm glad I've finally decided what to do. Although she doesn't know it It's really my wife who will decide it for me.

I perfectly understand how you feel. Good luck in whatever you decide.

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She's mid 50s and yes, we have been to sex therapy but it didn't work in her case. She's definitely not bothered about any other man. So we're really past all that stage - trying to solve the whole problem.

I was just blogging and speaking to myself really, saying what I've decided to do.

I happen to hate any secrecy between us.... punting phones and all that stuff, and kidding on you're going somewhere when it's really somewhere else you're going. I just like openness and honesty and find cheating distasteful and something i really don't want to keep doing. But to hell - it's either that or practically no sex. So I'll do it! That is if nothing happens in the next 4 weeks and I don't get any sex with her. Life's too short, etc., etc.

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I appreciate you writing for us to read this Alwayshoping. I can only speak for me but I take a lot from these posts and the replies.

My advice, for what it is worth, is if you relationship is great, apart from the sex side and you are not comfortable "cheating" as you say then you should do everything you can to try and maintain the relationship you have and speak to your wife to get the sexual side back. I know that may be kinda useless because you said you have been to a therapist.

All I can say is I know so many would want the relationship you say you have. However, I equally understand sex and the physical is an important side it just seems mad from me as an outsider looking in that you cannot resolve this problem and you both may throw away a great relationship over really what is an issue which surely can be resolved.

It is just a puzzle to me how relationships seem to become more distant and difficult and talking stops as people age.

Personally I'd say you and your wife can resolve this and you both should!

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Good on you for trying, i would suspect you will return to punting as once people become that set in their ways they rarely change....and if previous attempts have gone as far as therapy and still not worked then that is a very deep problem!!

I wish you luck....and hope you can actually get what you so desire.

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Thanks! Just want to add this: maybe I'm being stingy but I can't help thinking: Hey, I'm married - fucking should be free!

Im interested in computer music. I could have this lovely toy to play with http://www.spectraso.../omnisphere.php for the cost of about 4 brief half hours' sex. There's no comparison but I can't help comparing. If I had loads of money I wouldn't think that way. But honestly, like most people, we need our money for all sorts of important things, mostly not toys!

As I said, it's damned galling. But I'm resigned to it. I'll go for the sex if I don't get any, and leave the toy for now.

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I am late 50's. Sex life between my wife and I stopped about 2 years ago. Dony know why just did. She is same age.

I visit escorts about once every couple of months.

I would hate to be found out - because I know marriage would be over. To me that is always a risk. I cant emphasise enough how careful you need to be if you do decide to visit.

But as to tyhe morals of the situation. I wouold rather not visit. But I get horny and sometimes wanking isnt enough.

I dont go for a long time as I cant afford it. I am fortunate that I have a "regular" who knows my needs.

Do I feel guilty?? Deep down a little. But I know I am not hurting anyone (unless as I said I get found out!). If my wife also visited a male escort I wouldnt mind. As long as it wasnt an affair or she rubbed it in my face.

I know I love my wife. This is purely sex.

In my view it's a personal thing and every guy is different.

I would just do what you want to do. - Just don't get caught!!

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Ok, girl perspective here... have you tried seducing her?- I'm sure you have, but I have to say it in case you haven't considered that just being asked to have sex is not an immediate turn on?

I'm not getting chiched agony aunt on you and suggesting you do the whole candles and rose petal things, but maybe just being touch feely with her, cuddling up, stroking her, maybe offer to massage her feet and just go about building her up to the right mood with lots of gentle slow, no pressure foreplay. You might have to play the long game and if she says she knows what you're up to (women are not stupid!) and No she doesn't want sex then say that's fine, you just wanted to show her some love and affection and don't push the sex part.

Women generally want to feel sexy and attractive and desired, maybe it's this you need to work on?

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If you have been to a therapist, surely the therapist emphasised that the physical is often an essential part of a relationship and even if it is less important to the other party in the relationship, they should still draw pleasure/satisfaction out of satisfying the other's needs. What reason did she give for effectively denying you (2.30 a.m. = denial)?

I'm not confident that she will come round. If she doesn't... punt like the rest of us, bugger the guilt and avoid telling her (not sure about the toy anyway).

Jack

Where are the ladies when you need (as opposed to want) them! Well done Lydia, 5th Cavalry to the rescue.

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Absolutely what London Lydia says. I think for guys it's very easy for us just to see things from the perspective of, "If only she had sex with me more often, she'd see how fondly I still feel for her, I'd be happier and our relationship would be so much stronger."

Whilst she's maybe thinking...

"If only he was more romantic with me more often our relationship would be much stronger and I might want to have a sexual relationship with him again"

It gets to a point where he gets grumpy with her due to lack of sex. His grumpiness or pressurising for sex only makes her distance herself from him physically and the whole concept of romance gets long forgotten.

So yep, bring back the romance. Not only will she feel good about it but it'll make you feel good too when you see her respond to it. And so begins a positive snowball effect as opposed to the current negative avalanche effect! But maybe begin subtly. If you suddenly shower her in flowers she might get suspicious!

When did you last go out to the theatre or a meal. A nice walk together somewhere beautiful. A picnic. The odd little unexpected gift now and then? And talking. Do you talk with her much for extended periods? Or possibly more important, do you "listen" to her talking for extended periods. It's all about her seeing that you still love her and don't see her as an object for sex.

If you truly want to make love to her again as opposed to just get a quick shag, then you have a lot of hard work ahead of you but I'm sure it'd be worth it in the long run.

Ok enough of this nonsense. Boobs, pussy, hoorah!

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Sorry just wanted to add:

The whole fact that you repeatedly say "I'll just give her one last chance", sounds like you're putting all the pressure and expectation on her. If you really want your relationship to work and blossom, don't do that. Take control of the situation. Change it. The emphasis is on you because she's probably the one that's lost. You need to be the man, get out in to the dark wilderness of her lost soul and find her and save her. And by that I mean...cast out your net of love. Catch her in it and reel her back in. Romance romance romance.

God damn this beer I'm drinking is good.

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Ok, girl perspective here... have you tried seducing her?- I'm sure you have, but I have to say it in case you haven't considered that just being asked to have sex is not an immediate turn on?

I'm not getting chiched agony aunt on you and suggesting you do the whole candles and rose petal things, but maybe just being touch feely with her, cuddling up, stroking her, maybe offer to massage her feet and just go about building her up to the right mood with lots of gentle slow, no pressure foreplay. You might have to play the long game and if she says she knows what you're up to (women are not stupid!) and No she doesn't want sex then say that's fine, you just wanted to show her some love and affection and don't push the sex part.

Women generally want to feel sexy and attractive and desired, maybe it's this you need to work on?

Many thanks for your input, Lydia, and for taking the trouble to write, and to all the men who have been so frank about their own private lives - I don't seem to be completely alone - and have offered advice, such as Kembo and others. I'll take it all on board and try my best - but only till the end of August, mind!

My wife hasn't given a proper reason why my chance has to be so late other than that she won't contemplate taking off clothes during the day and is far too occupied doing other things so it's left till the very last thing. It's a hopeless time anyway as after a very late meal she doesn't want me to press or lean on her stomach! So it's a total wash out.

Also, I'm actually the tactile one. I'm the one who almost always instigates kisses and cuddles. She just receives them passively. My wife is affectionate but this shows itself more in giving me nice meals.... whereas the way to my heart seems to be through my cock!

However, we'll see what happens in the coming weeks. If nothing happens on the love front I'll be seeing girls once a month and will no longer be in a state of undecidedness and hesitation. I told the last girl I saw that her legs, which I was fondling like crazy, were so sexy and gorgeous that I could eat them! That made her laugh!

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OP, sorry to hear about your predicament. Sounds like you're setting yourself up for failure though. This website might have something of help to you:

www.reuniting.info (the book is excellent)

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Ok, girl perspective here... have you tried seducing her?- I'm sure you have, but I have to say it in case you haven't considered that just being asked to have sex is not an immediate turn on?

I'm not getting chiched agony aunt on you and suggesting you do the whole candles and rose petal things, but maybe just being touch feely with her, cuddling up, stroking her, maybe offer to massage her feet and just go about building her up to the right mood with lots of gentle slow, no pressure foreplay. You might have to play the long game and if she says she knows what you're up to (women are not stupid!) and No she doesn't want sex then say that's fine, you just wanted to show her some love and affection and don't push the sex part.

Women generally want to feel sexy and attractive and desired, maybe it's this you need to work on?

I'm in a similar situation to the OP although we're both quite a bit younger. I understand exactly what you're saying Lydia but I'd wager he probably has tried lots of this like I have. Once you've experienced enough rejection, you can't try any more, because the fear of rejection and the pain it causes is too great. It really is difficult and I'm speaking from experience. You're advice is good though.

So since I can't even bring myself to ask her (I hate to feel a pest) it's up to her to give me a chance to have sex during the day since things have quietened down a bit just now. "Do you want to make love?" is what I want to hear.

Sorry to be pessimistic but I would be willing to bet that this WON'T happen. Sex is just not important to her, and she doesn't realize how important it is to you, so why would she suddenly think "oh, I'm not so busy now, I'll use that time to get more physical with my OH"? You need to take control and find the opportunities where there is no reasonable excuse for her to have something more important to do. And then, however hard it is, try and implement Lydia's advice - just asking to "make love" (as you're expecting her to do) won't cut it. Seduce her, only you know her well enough to know what MIGHT work. Then, if she rejects you repeatedly in these circumstances, you'll know exactly where you stand.

Do I feel guilty?? Deep down a little. But I know I am not hurting anyone (unless as I said I get found out!). If my wife also visited a male escort I wouldnt mind. As long as it wasnt an affair or she rubbed it in my face.

I don't feel guilty. I see escorts because my wife refuses me anything like the intimacy I desire with her. She knows I desire her and she knows she's in control of the rejection. No I won't rub it in her face (and hopefully ever let her find out) and if she did find out I have no doubt our marriage would be over, but I would feel justified in my reasons for what I do. She would of course see it completely differently :(

On the other hand, if I was the one rejecting her yet still saw escorts then to me that would be very wrong and she would rightly feel incredibly hurt. Therefore if my wife visited a male escort, by the same token I would be distraught and there would be no repairing our relationship.

Not really wishing to get into another lengthy moral debate though :eek:

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So I feel it's all up to my wife now. I'll give hints from time to time that I want sex with her but won't actually ask her outright and put her on the spot. I just can't do this any more. So what she does or does not do or instigate in the next 4 weeks or so will decide the issue once and for all!

Sorry about the length of this - this has become more liike a huge private blog.... but I just wanted to get this off my chest and share my very private thoughts with other men (and God knows who else!) who've maybe experienced similar feelings and ended up paying for sex. It's all so damned galling because we get on really, really well together. Everything's absolutely fine except that I need sex and she doesn't. But this one thing is too important to me to ignore or do without.

Many a woman might still be interested at her age.

If the kids are in their 20's, im guessing your wife in her late 40's to early 50's? She should still have some sexual desires.

I have said this many times before. Many women go off sex completely once they have had children, it has nothing to do with the man, they simply do. It is the difference between the genders.

As much as the suggestions that she sould still be interested in sex at that age, she should be seduced etc, it will rarely happen sorry. I have heard so many stories from female friends and obviously clients (a recent one saying that he had just been to a big friend get together, men and wives. The men ended up talking about the lack of sex and not one of them in a group of 12 was getting sex off their wives - some even slept in separate bedrooms) I know that almost everyone of my married female friends (with children) will avoid sex with a vengeance because they simply are not interested anymore so sorry Alwayshoping, I think it is unlikely that your wife will suddenly think that she wants sex every fortnight.

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Interesting thread for me as I've recently been in a very very close but otherwise platonic relationship with a lady over 20 years younger than me and the one thing above all else that stopped me from taking it further was the dread that she would think that having sex with someone so much older was awful. Maybe this is a part of why the OP's partner is so turned off?

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When I read threads like this, I am glad sometimes that I am single. It's almost demeaning for a man - a married man - to have to virtually plead for the greatest intimacy that a man and woman can share. I had plenty of experience of being rejected by women in my teenage years. But to be in a marriage where the person I love/loved? rejects me sexually on a daily basis, or rations it with a 'oh, go on then, if you really must' attitude, is quite tragic, imho. :(

If that's what being married is like, then I would prefer to punt and have physical release on a regular basis, when I NEED it.

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I have said this many times before. Many women go off sex completely once they have had children, it has nothing to do with the man, they simply do. It is the difference between the genders.

As much as the suggestions that she sould still be interested in sex at that age, she should be seduced etc, it will rarely happen sorry. I have heard so many stories from female friends and obviously clients (a recent one saying that he had just been to a big friend get together, men and wives. The men ended up talking about the lack of sex and not one of them in a group of 12 was getting sex off their wives - some even slept in separate bedrooms) I know that almost everyone of my married female friends (with children) will avoid sex with a vengeance because they simply are not interested anymore so sorry Alwayshoping, I think it is unlikely that your wife will suddenly think that she wants sex every fortnight.

Good post and i think excellent advice Pia. I have never been in this situation fortunately but with my selfishness i know i wouldnt be able to put up with it, i would either split up or stay together and punt. That would depend on how strong my love for her still was.

I think most women know many men require sex, to expect their man to go without i view as unreasonable personally. A relationship is a two-way process if one is not getting something the other needs its bound to cause problems in my experiences.

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I have said this many times before. Many women go off sex completely once they have had children, it has nothing to do with the man, they simply do. It is the difference between the genders.

As much as the suggestions that she sould still be interested in sex at that age, she should be seduced etc, it will rarely happen sorry. I have heard so many stories from female friends and obviously clients (a recent one saying that he had just been to a big friend get together, men and wives. The men ended up talking about the lack of sex and not one of them in a group of 12 was getting sex off their wives - some even slept in separate bedrooms) I know that almost everyone of my married female friends (with children) will avoid sex with a vengeance because they simply are not interested anymore so sorry Alwayshoping, I think it is unlikely that your wife will suddenly think that she wants sex every fortnight.

I don't disagree with anything you say but could a loving wife not just be willing to accommodate her husband, service him if you like, on a regular basis even though she doesn't need any sex herself? Just because she loves him and wants to keep him happy and is pleased he wants her?

The phrase 'service him' sounds awful maybe, but it could all be done in a nice, romantic way and the man could do it with her in a loving way. Is it not reasonable to hope a wife might be willing to go along with this - out of love for him? I would be willing, and have done things, for her that i don't particularly want to do sometimes. i just sometimes do things to please her and because I love her. Is it so unrealistic to hope she might do the same for me?

It's not the age gap as someone suggested, in my case. I'm very fit and she's always made it clear that my being older doesn't turn her off at all. It's all about the lack of any need for sex. Funnily enough the psycho-sexual counsellor once asked her does she ever fantasise about having sex with another man, a film star or some handsome man or other, and also does she ever masturbate. The answer she gave when I was there was no, no, no to everything! I believed her as I think she meant it - but it is a bit shocking to lack any of these feelings, to be so immune to all that.

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When I read threads like this, I am glad sometimes that I am single. It's almost demeaning for a man - a married man - to have to virtually plead for the greatest intimacy that a man and woman can share. I had plenty of experience of being rejected by women in my teenage years. But to be in a marriage where the person I love/loved? rejects me sexually on a daily basis, or rations it with a 'oh, go on then, if you really must' attitude, is quite tragic, imho. :(

If that's what being married is like, then I would prefer to punt and have physical release on a regular basis, when I NEED it.

Totally agree with you mate.

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I don't disagree with anything you say but could a loving wife not just be willing to accommodate her husband, service him if you like, on a regular basis even though she doesn't need any sex herself? Just because she loves him and wants to keep him happy and is pleased he wants her?

The phrase 'service him' sounds awful maybe, but it could all be done in a nice, romantic way and the man could do it with her in a loving way. Is it not reasonable to hope a wife might be willing to go along with this - out of love for him? I would be willing, and have done things, for her that i don't particularly want to do sometimes. i just sometimes do things to please her and because I love her. Is it so unrealistic to hope she might do the same for me?

It's not the age gap as someone suggested, in my case. I'm very fit and she's always made it clear that my being older doesn't turn her off at all. It's all about the lack of any need for sex. Funnily enough the psycho-sexual counsellor once asked her does she ever fantasise about having sex with another man, a film star or some handsome man or other, and also does she ever masturbate. The answer she gave when I was there was no, no, no to everything! I believed her as I think she meant it - but it is a bit shocking to lack any of these feelings, to be so immune to all that.

In other words when it comes to pleasing them we should do it whether we like it or not but when its their turn to do likewise, they put up all sorts of barriers. I just cant understand some women.

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When I read threads like this, I am glad sometimes that I am single. It's almost demeaning for a man - a married man - to have to virtually plead for the greatest intimacy that a man and woman can share. I had plenty of experience of being rejected by women in my teenage years. But to be in a marriage where the person I love/loved? rejects me sexually on a daily basis, or rations it with a 'oh, go on then, if you really must' attitude, is quite tragic, imho. :(

If that's what being married is like, then I would prefer to punt and have physical release on a regular basis, when I NEED it.

You're right. It's not a good place to be, but not all marriages are between partners with badly mismatched sex drives so don't be too put off.

If you ever do decide to get married just be sure you choose a woman with a proven high sex drive that needs satisfying regularly and frequently, and who likes different positions, and who also has a proven record of actually enjoying a man's cock in her mouth, and being submissive to her man. Then you should be fine :) Marry her! Give this aspect of her personality top priority if you love sex yourself!

I have an impression that plumper, buxom women are a far better bet, often much sexier, than very slim ones but I have no proof of this. It's just a hunch of mine. :D

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