Duxbury

Job Or Pleasure?

65 posts in this topic

I guess that this topic has been discussed on numerous occasions before, but the burning question remains: Do WG's do it for pleasure or profit...I'm assuming that it might be a mixture of both. Certainly I have felt that I have experienced WG's who genuinely throw themselves into the work, and derive pleasure from it, others who have operated in a robotic and matter-of-fact way. Put it this way, a male escort must derive pleasure, achieving orgasm and ejaculating at climax. Where as a female can fake pleasure, the client has no real sense that the WG has derived sexual pleasure, apart from the physiological signs observed within and on the female body. Comments and experiences welcome.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, this has been covered before and you may get advised to check the archives, but personally, I am of the opinion that topics need repeating with new views, new members, etc.

To answer your question, I would say that there is divide between parlour girls, independents and the 'not allowed to talk about' street girls...

With parlour girls, I suspect that it is mainly for the money.

With independent ladies, my experience, and I admit that I am biased as I only choose those ladies who seem to be escorting for more than just money, is that many of them do it for a mixture of reasons.

Quite a few independents I have met are carers/nurses and/or single mothers.

It follows that they need the money and escorting is a way to make money.

Do they enjoy the sex? I suspect that this depends on the client.

So again, I am biased. I believe that the majority of ladies that I have met have enjoyed our time together and its not just the money, its the experience, the chat, the touching, the kissing and the mutual respect between us.

I'm not sure anyone can give you a definitive answer, its not black and white!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At the end of the day its a job and you have to treat it as a job and be as professional as possible other wise you wouldnt make any money. On the other hand there is a lot of pleasure in the job ;)

I am sure someone will come along and say that they do it for pleasure and the cash is only a small secondary after thought but then the first question that springs to my mind would be...then why are you charging anything at all. :ph34r:

Edited by Chloe MKEscorts

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At the end of the day its a job and you have to treat it as a job and be as professional as possible other wise you wouldnt make any money. On the other hand there is a lot of pleasure in the job ;)

I am sure someone will come along and say that they do it for pleasure and the cash is only a small secondary after thought but then the first question that springs to my mind would be...then why are you charging anything at all. :ph34r:

There are thousands of people who derive no pleasure at all from their work, so if a WG enjoys what she does and has great sex with someone even once a day that must put her ahead of many in the enjoyment stakes. There is also the pleasure to be gained from knowing you have provided someone with a great service. And not many jobs involve meeting new and different people all the time, although I guess this has to balanced with the fact that you will sometimes come across a bastard or, more often, someone dull.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Both. I would enlarge on this and say that I only see really nice clients, so the job is a pleasure with the added bonus that some really nice guy is actually going to pay me for enjoying myself:)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My view is that a girl can enjoy her job, sometimes. Yes, it can be good sex and you get paid a lot for it. However, there can be much fun if the punter is a fat smelly bastard with a small dick and big ego - fortunately though, I expect that not all punters are like me! ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quite a few independents I have met are carers/nurses and/or single mothers.

It follows that they need the money and escorting is a way to make money.

Do they enjoy the sex? I suspect that this depends on the client.

So again, I am biased. I believe that the majority of ladies that I have met have enjoyed our time together and its not just the money, its the experience, the chat, the touching, the kissing and the mutual respect between us.

I'm not sure anyone can give you a definitive answer, its not black and white!

Enjoying the sex is one thing, but another feeling that I think a good number of independant ladies have is that they derive much satisfaction from seeing the pleasure that they bring into our drab lives.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I work in the public sector, and meet a lot of people in my job, there are times when I need to do a 1-1 session with people, and although I love what I do, it does have its drawbacks, as well as its high points.

You cant get along with everyone and despite what you may do, sometimes either you or someone rubs you up the same way, and its probably like that for escorts too.

One thing though, I do get a sence of enjoyment when I have helped someone and watch them depart my office with a smile on their face, so I guess that part does make an escort feel good also, I have at times recieve d a text from escorts thanking me for a good time after I had left, so I suppose the answer is that most proffesional escorts do it for the money and the excitment they get.

You only have to look at the number of escorts who retire, then seem to return to escorting, its not always the money that makes them return, it must be some buzz they get from watching the pleasure we receive.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am in the fortunate position in that escorting is something that I choose to do along side my other work, a little naughtiness on the side if you will.

I often quip if asked that I do it for free as my strange social life, but there is a mandatory donation to the horse charity. You would not want my ponies to starve now would you?

I love my "job", but there are good clients and bad. However my high screening means that there are less bad than good. And then again there are the adept and not so adept....But if you like a good time, (and I do), I can always show them how and then its win/win. Hurrah.

I can't imagine sitting in my house waiting for the phone to ring and having to see every one that calls. It might be lucrative but it would destroy my mind and soul.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At the end of the day its a job and you have to treat it as a job and be as professional as possible other wise you wouldnt make any money. On the other hand there is a lot of pleasure in the job ;)

I am sure someone will come along and say that they do it for pleasure and the cash is only a small secondary after thought but then the first question that springs to my mind would be...then why are you charging anything at all. :ph34r:

cos its a turn on for some, i think.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm another one on the pleasure front, life's too short to do stuff you hate or at least stuff you can't convince yourself is not that bad. ;)

Why charge at all? Well, these days, very high standards are placed on a woman's appearance (even in private life) and it costs a bloody fortune to maintain that, so that is one aspect. Then there is this very odd phenomenon where I am actually treated with more courtesy and see more genuine desire for me to have a good time than when I'm giving it away. I think many men really mess it up for themselves in that way, they treat "civvies" like hookers and hookers like ladies. And, unless it's a bit of role play, I will not be treated with anything other than the utmost respect in my private life, so they can sod off.

You also don't have annoying discussions like "oh pleeeeease can I cum in your mouth" (bearing in mind I am not in a relationship, so this would be high risk behaviour) with punters, they even have no problem accepting my OW as I clearly state that this is what they will get, in fact, they book me because they know that I am extremely health and hygiene conscious. To some that is a selling point, others put inordinate amounts of time into writing me lengthy messages about how rubbish what I offer is, that I can't survive in today's market, blah blah blah. Are they trying to change my mind? Whatever for if there is so much choice out there? They don't HAVE to book me?

So another important part of the pleasure part is not having to worry about catching or passing on anything. One of my clients used to book OWO + CIM girls, caught something, had to tell his wife, the marriage almost broke up, then she said that she is ok with him fulfilling his needs every now and then as long as he does it with a girl who only offers safe sex stuff and he doesn't kiss me. I'm not sure I'd be happy to have "strictly regulated sorties" but I admire the guy for caring that much for his wife and the wife for accepting that he has a higher drive than she does. She probably realises that an affair would be much more dangerous and take up much more of her busy husband's time.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I guess that this topic has been discussed on numerous occasions before, but the burning question remains: Do WG's do it for pleasure or profit...I'm assuming that it might be a mixture of both. Certainly I have felt that I have experienced WG's who genuinely throw themselves into the work, and derive pleasure from it, others who have operated in a robotic and matter-of-fact way. Put it this way, a male escort must derive pleasure, achieving orgasm and ejaculating at climax. Where as a female can fake pleasure, the client has no real sense that the WG has derived sexual pleasure, apart from the physiological signs observed within and on the female body. Comments and experiences welcome.

I think it's usually both. I also think the girls who give the best all round "experience" are those who genuinely enjoy sex and enjoy meeting with and talking to people. Of course, the enjoyment must depend to a certain extent on the punter?

I think I'm a pretty good client. I'm a relatively nice guy (most of the time). I'm always clean. I treat a punt like I would treat a "meeting" with a new (or relatively new if I've seen them before) girlfriend. I do everything I can to ensure there is mutual enjoyment as that's what I need for the experience to be enjoyable. The girls I return to are the ones that clearly do enjoy it or at least give me an damn convincing impression that they do!

Don't get me wrong, I am under no illusion that these girls would look at me twice in the real world, let alone take me back to their place and get jiggy with me. But the enjoyment that the best girls I've seen clearly have can only be partially attributed to acting in my opinion.

I punted with a girl a few weeks ago - one of the most gorgeous girls I've ever laid eyes on, with good feedback on here and the other site (although looking over it afterwards none of it contradicted my experience of her). She was a pleasant girl. She gave a great "service" - her oral was second to none and she performed everything else reasonably enthusiastically. I'm certain she was definitely completely independent (not coerced in any way) but she was also clearly only there for the money. She admitted that she kept a firm emotional barrier between her and her clients - she came over a little cold to start with although she wasn't unfriendly. She gradually "warmed up" and "opened up" as the (2 hour) meeting went on, but you could see she wasn't used to doing that. She didn't hate what she was doing, but she didn't derive much enjoyment from it (apart from taking the envelope of cash). She was clearly intent on "servicing" clients as best she could rather than having a mutually enjoyable experience. I won't return.

For those that want a "submissive girl" or just want to shag a gorgeous beauty, she's highly recommended. I need a more "mutual" experience. I'll keep finding (and returning to) the girls that clearly enjoy it :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are thousands of people who derive no pleasure at all from their work, so if a WG enjoys what she does and has great sex with someone even once a day that must put her ahead of many in the enjoyment stakes. There is also the pleasure to be gained from knowing you have provided someone with a great service. And not many jobs involve meeting new and different people all the time, although I guess this has to balanced with the fact that you will sometimes come across a bastard or, more often, someone dull.

Unfortunatley this is true re the thousands in pleasureless jobs, its possibly why so many ladys return again and again to this industry after going off to do other things for a while. It is a job that holds much fun and is rarely dreary or boring. Yes there is the odd bastard or tosser but they are outweighed by the decent guys. At the end of the day though if the law changed and you were no longer allowed to take any sort of payment for sex how many ladys would remain in business and give it away for free out of charity instead.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Both.

There are thousands of people who derive no pleasure at all from their work, so if a WG enjoys what she does and has great sex with someone even once a day that must put her ahead of many in the enjoyment stakes. There is also the pleasure to be gained from knowing you have provided someone with a great service. And not many jobs involve meeting new and different people all the time, although I guess this has to balanced with the fact that you will sometimes come across a bastard or, more often, someone dull.

I definitely have a fetish for the whole 'getting paid' end of things. And there can be a lot of pleasure.

I enjoy the job, and I enjoy being paid. But like any job working with people, you are likely to meet a lot of people you aren't maybe quite so keen on. Doesn't mean you are going to give them a poor service. The ability to provide service with a smile seems to be seen here sometimes as highlighting some kind of dishonesty on the part of the SP.

Do you think that when your child's primary teacher doesnt take her bad mood out on your kids, but instead deals with them nicely and kindly, that she/he is faking it for the money? When the nurse looking after your aggressive, demented, elderly aunt simply ducks the punches and remains kind and gentle, that she/he is being fake?

Or that there is no pleasure in that kind of work, no feeling of satisfaction at providing a good service despite the odds?

Now then. Would you expect those people to do the job for nothing? To provide their time, their skillls, their abilities, for nothing? Surely if they like their jobs, they should be happy to do it for nothing? Instead of almost nothing as they do now.....whoops politics, and off topic........

I would suspect that the SP's who do decently in this business are either drop dead gorgeous, as described in Velcrohead's post above, or genuinely love it most of the time, because Im sure guys can tell. And if you find both in one place, that's fantastic.

Both.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I guess that this topic has been discussed on numerous occasions before, but the burning question remains: Do WG's do it for pleasure or profit...I'm assuming that it might be a mixture of both. Certainly I have felt that I have experienced WG's who genuinely throw themselves into the work, and derive pleasure from it, others who have operated in a robotic and matter-of-fact way. Put it this way, a male escort must derive pleasure, achieving orgasm and ejaculating at climax. Where as a female can fake pleasure, the client has no real sense that the WG has derived sexual pleasure, apart from the physiological signs observed within and on the female body. Comments and experiences welcome.

From my experiences it of course depends on the individual WG. Some are strictly business which is fine with me, i dont expect them to be otherwise just as i wouldnt my Solicitor, some are a mixture of both and i know some are enjoying it as all sense of time goes out the window.

When we click its always good and leads to better punts but i view it as a bonus, a very welcome bonus, and its these kind of WGs and parties i return to.

Edited by smiths

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Both.

I definitely have a fetish for the whole 'getting paid' end of things. And there can be a lot of pleasure.

I enjoy the job, and I enjoy being paid. But like any job working with people, you are likely to meet a lot of people you aren't maybe quite so keen on. Doesn't mean you are going to give them a poor service. The ability to provide service with a smile seems to be seen here sometimes as highlighting some kind of dishonesty on the part of the SP.

Do you think that when your child's primary teacher doesnt take her bad mood out on your kids, but instead deals with them nicely and kindly, that she/he is faking it for the money? When the nurse looking after your aggressive, demented, elderly aunt simply ducks the punches and remains kind and gentle, that she/he is being fake?

Or that there is no pleasure in that kind of work, no feeling of satisfaction at providing a good service despite the odds?

Now then. Would you expect those people to do the job for nothing? To provide their time, their skillls, their abilities, for nothing? Surely if they like their jobs, they should be happy to do it for nothing? Instead of almost nothing as they do now.....whoops politics, and off topic........

I would suspect that the SP's who do decently in this business are either drop dead gorgeous, as described in Velcrohead's post above, or genuinely love it most of the time, because Im sure guys can tell. And if you find both in one place, that's fantastic.

Both.

we should not forget that some people love their work and get a buzz every day. its not restricted to WG's

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As a punter you should avoid the illusion that the working girl is interested in receiving pleasure from the client in general terms. If you go to a punt hoping to pleasure the girl, for her to have orgasms, to respond to you personally as a lover, you will forever be disappointed because its a job first and foremost. Satisfying the customer's physical needs is hard enough without pandering to the emotional needs too.

However there's a lot of job satisfaction to be had too.

In my time I have encountered two ladies, neither currently working, who had other forms of employment/income and did it mainly for fun. There is a third who is still working, but she is a complex beast and I wouldn't care to second guess her motivation. The first two were open about it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Job satisfaction.

If a client walks out the door with a big smile, feeling good, having paid my fee then I'm more than happy too. If I happen to gain physical pleasure it's a bonus but not essential.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As a punter you should avoid the illusion that the working girl is interested in receiving pleasure from the client in general terms. If you go to a punt hoping to pleasure the girl, for her to have orgasms, to respond to you personally as a lover, you will forever be disappointed because its a job first and foremost. Satisfying the customer's physical needs is hard enough without pandering to the emotional needs too.

However there's a lot of job satisfaction to be had too.

In my time I have encountered two ladies, neither currently working, who had other forms of employment/income and did it mainly for fun. There is a third who is still working, but she is a complex beast and I wouldn't care to second guess her motivation. The first two were open about it.

Good advice in your first paragraph in particular in my view, however the amount of punters i see at parties who make it their mission for various reasons to give/make WGs orgasm is amazing. They can spend the whole party doing this, have the built up tongue muscles to do so and the WGs give them the fake orgasm and off they trot happy as can be even bragging how good they are. When i am next with the WG and know her she will say, yes i thought he would never move on so a fake moved him on and he went off convinced he is an expert at RO. Some of these guys havent a clue, gives me a chuckle though, and yet another example of ignorance is bliss.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Both.

I definitely have a fetish for the whole 'getting paid' end of things. And there can be a lot of pleasure.

I enjoy the job, and I enjoy being paid. But like any job working with people, you are likely to meet a lot of people you aren't maybe quite so keen on. Doesn't mean you are going to give them a poor service. The ability to provide service with a smile seems to be seen here sometimes as highlighting some kind of dishonesty on the part of the SP.

Do you think that when your child's primary teacher doesnt take her bad mood out on your kids, but instead deals with them nicely and kindly, that she/he is faking it for the money? When the nurse looking after your aggressive, demented, elderly aunt simply ducks the punches and remains kind and gentle, that she/he is being fake?

Or that there is no pleasure in that kind of work, no feeling of satisfaction at providing a good service despite the odds?

Now then. Would you expect those people to do the job for nothing? To provide their time, their skillls, their abilities, for nothing? Surely if they like their jobs, they should be happy to do it for nothing? Instead of almost nothing as they do now.....whoops politics, and off topic........

I would suspect that the SP's who do decently in this business are either drop dead gorgeous, as described in Velcrohead's post above, or genuinely love it most of the time, because Im sure guys can tell. And if you find both in one place, that's fantastic.

Both.

For me if a WG really is enjoying the punt great, if not her being professional and pretending is more than enough for me. I dont see that as dishonest myself, i see it as her being a good or better WG. :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Reading various reviews it does seem important to quite a few men to prove just how amazing they are in bed and you'll read things like "her whole body was shuddering, there's no way she was faking it". Maybe she wasn't but "faking it like it's real" it is part of the essential skills repertoire because some guys are booking you precisely because they can't seem to make their partner or women in general come. It makes them feel epic (to quote those dreadful ads) to not only have sex but to be properly good at it, wahey!

Problem is, I hate faking it, after all, if the guy does it all wrong and I pretend he's doing it all right, am I not setting him up for disappointment with unpaid ladies? Depending on the dynamic of the meet, I will tell him what I like, what really gets me off - most are really happy to comply. But then I guess that's linked to the kind of punter I attract, I read some reviews and think "boy, if you acted like that around me, you'd get a slap".

Mind you, the worst ones are those that continuously ask "Did you come? Huh? Did you? Did you? Is that good? Huh?", it feels like I'm playing fetch with my dog! And then, if you do come (usually by really focussing on something that turns you on and breathing in a certain way to enhance whatever he's doing), they don't bloody believe you and carry on with the game of fetch! Or if they do believe you, they want to know exactly how it felt, how good it was - exhausting, I tell you!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Punters like me want to please and be pleased all the time, so when i make a bookng, I act in a very kind and polite manner, and despite knowing that every lady has a differant way of being pleaseured, still try to do it the way that I think is best, in order that I get a great service in return.

I have been punting for over 2 decades and know I have got some things right, but have also got plenty of things wrong, and thinking I am great at oral skills is not one of them, but that does not prevent me from trying to help an escort have a great time, Maybe if some escorts were to say what turns them on more, either by giving instructions, or telling me what I was doing was not right for them, then I would be better for being told so, but after all its about me having some fun and if I think its good for you whilst I get my fill of what I want, then im happy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would suspect that the SP's who do decently in this business are either drop dead gorgeous, as described in Velcrohead's post above, or genuinely love it most of the time, because Im sure guys can tell. And if you find both in one place, that's fantastic.

I think I can tell and there's no doubt that being with someone who really enjoys what they do adds immeasurably to the punting experience. Rapport counts for a hell of a lot and if there's a bit of laughter and good chat too I generally have a brilliant time! I think I would give up if every meeting was just a sexual transaction.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's pleasure for all the ladies i see....because i am so lovely :lol:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Job satisfaction.

If a client walks out the door with a big smile, feeling good, having paid my fee then I'm more than happy too. If I happen to gain physical pleasure it's a bonus but not essential.

+1. This is the sort of encounter I find most rewarding.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now