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I am going to visit Krakow for a few days soon and would appreciate any info re massage, clubs and escorts

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I am going to visit Krakow for a few days soon and would appreciate any info re massage, clubs and escorts

CLUBS ,The best one is CASABLANCA .No entrance fee ,250 pln for the so called 1 hour ,ie one 1 pop .

DRINKS .Beer is 20 pln,and lady drinks are 50 pln .

Be careful with lady drinks ,you can get carried away .

Escorts . www.odloty.pl ,look up for SATIN ,a really lovely girl 400pln for 90 minutes .

I did few other clubs ,but quite honestly ,not worth the money ,but do have a look ,read my previous report .

YOUR best bet is to go on a tour of the clubs ,and use a reliable taxi driver ,and always phone &use RADIO taxis ,otherwise you get taken for a big ride .

I have the no of such a driver ,that i use in krakow pm if you are intersted .

POLAND is not the bargain nowadays as it used to be .

EXchange rate is 4.50 to the £ it used to be 5..50 2 years ago .

I am a new convert to punting in UKRAINE ,super hot blond girls ,with prices cheaper than poland ,and a favourable exchange rate these days 14 to the £

WITH air fares return at about £56 ,on wizzair from luton airport it is very tempting .

JERBOA ,this is a place you would love .

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Sounds Interesting, I have been wanting to go to Ukraine for a while, maybe miss out Poland and head straight there. Do you need some Russian lanuage? Have you done a report on Ukraine?

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Sounds Interesting, I have been wanting to go to Ukraine for a while, maybe miss out Poland and head straight there. Do you need some Russian lanuage? Have you done a report on Ukraine?

I do recall you saying ,that you wanted to go to ukraine .

IT IS the best time ever to go to ukraine ,trust me ,and anyone whose prferered tipple (TIGGY's 7 PHRASE ) is tanned super girls ,then this the place .

UNLIKE polish cities ,kiev is very spread out ,so you do need taxis to get around .

MY russian is limited to 3 words ,same as my polish ,but i let my $$$$ do the talking .

MY writing skills are even worse than my typing ,but i wiil post one report here shortly .

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Sounds Interesting, I have been wanting to go to Ukraine for a while, maybe miss out Poland and head straight there. Do you need some Russian lanuage? Have you done a report on Ukraine?

MY only experience with a sex club in germany ,was at la follie i berlin .

IT was a very nice one ,and met a really stunning an d f friendly german girl there .

PUNTING in germany ,never really appealed to me, cos of the costs invovled ,but having read your excellent reports and others ,it seems to me .that fkk clubs and partytiff are really very good value for money ,compared to polish sex clubs .

BUT in poland the outcall prices for girls are much cheaper than germany ,and apart from punting costs ,day and night costs ,food drinks , transport ,are much cheaper .

MOST girls speak english ,and are approachable in normal cubs,and are keen to converse in english .

BUT with the growing polish economy ,many girls are leaving the club scene ,and setting themselves up in apartments ,with prices from 150pln one hour ,but it usually means one pop .

IF you have not done eastern euruope ,it would be advisable to start with KRAKOW ,WROCLAW ,or even WARSAW .

KIEV ,has become a reasonable and viable punting destination for the following reasons ..

WIZZ air started flying there ,so you pay less than half the fare on other airlines .

BECAUSE of the political and finanacial situation there ,the local currency the grivna ,has taken a tumble ,down to nearly 14 to the £ from nearly 9 to the £ last year .

THE government in ukraine took the step to close down all the gambling clubs in the country ,so a lot of girls working in the gambling industry found themselves out of a job ,so were forced to look for altrnatives,resulting in an influx into the sex industry and lower prices ,

A lot of ukraine girls used to head to poland to work in the sex clubs there ,but since poland signed the schingen visa system after joining the EE ,this door has been closed to them as well as to most of europe .

WITH no near prospects of joining NATO or the EE in the near future ,girls are very keen to meet western men with money ,and with the right good looks and style freebies in clubs and on the streets are plenty .

HAVE A look on sites such as www.topmodels.ua and www.escorts.models.kiev.ua ,to get an idea on looks and prices .

Also use www.flirt.com.ua for freebies to correspond with prior to your trip .

I HAVE to say the girls of ukraine are some of the most stunning ,that i have ever seen,and if (YOUR TIPPLE ..) is hot tanned (they were in sept) BLOND GIRLS ,that you can bed at a price (negotiable) ,then this the place .

UKRAINE can be extremely cold in the winter,but is a varied country ,and worth a visit ,and not just for punting .

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MY only experience with a sex club in germany ,was at la follie i berlin .

IT was a very nice one ,and met a really stunning an d f friendly german girl there .

PUNTING in germany ,never really appealed to me, cos of the costs invovled ,but having read your excellent reports and others ,it seems to me .that fkk clubs and partytiff are really very good value for money ,compared to polish sex clubs .

BUT in poland the outcall prices for girls are much cheaper than germany ,and apart from punting costs ,day and night costs ,food drinks , transport ,are much cheaper .

MOST girls speak english ,and are approachable in normal cubs,and are keen to converse in english .

BUT with the growing polish economy ,many girls are leaving the club scene ,and setting themselves up in apartments ,with prices from 150pln one hour ,but it usually means one pop .

IF you have not done eastern euruope ,it would be advisable to start with KRAKOW ,WROCLAW ,or even WARSAW .

KIEV ,has become a reasonable and viable punting destination for the following reasons ..

WIZZ air started flying there ,so you pay less than half the fare on other airlines .

BECAUSE of the political and finanacial situation there ,the local currency the grivna ,has taken a tumble ,down to nearly 14 to the £ from nearly 9 to the £ last year .

THE government in ukraine took the step to close down all the gambling clubs in the country ,so a lot of girls working in the gambling industry found themselves out of a job ,so were forced to look for altrnatives,resulting in an influx into the sex industry and lower prices ,

A lot of ukraine girls used to head to poland to work in the sex clubs there ,but since poland signed the schingen visa system after joining the EE ,this door has been closed to them as well as to most of europe .

WITH no near prospects of joining NATO or the EE in the near future ,girls are very keen to meet western men with money ,and with the right good looks and style freebies in clubs and on the streets are plenty .

HAVE A look on sites such as www.topmodels.ua and www.escorts.models.kiev.ua ,to get an idea on looks and prices .

Also use www.flirt.com.ua for freebies to correspond with prior to your trip .

I HAVE to say the girls of ukraine are some of the most stunning ,that i have ever seen,and if (YOUR TIPPLE ..) is hot tanned (they were in sept) BLOND GIRLS ,that you can bed at a price (negotiable) ,then this the place .

UKRAINE can be extremely cold in the winter,but is a varied country ,and worth a visit ,and not just for punting .

TO expand on the above and to put things into context ,here is a brief guidline on current prices .

! one hour with girls outcall or incall from 400uah see above sites .look for real photos and english speaking .

2 EXcellent body to body massage with a very very happy ending from 350 uah .Places in the centre ,include EVLIRA ,ROXzlana .

3 The top club for pick up is RIVER PALACE with asking prices ,from $300 ,negotiable for 2 or 3 hours ,with some of the most beautiful girls on this planet ,and i mean it ,but my strategy with them ,was to ask for happy hour prices ,during the afternoon and early evening . OTHER clubs ,are arena ,shooters ,and irish pubs ,where prices are much cheaper .

4. STRIP clubs ,the best one is rio ,where take out is available $300 for few hour .private dances with touching 200 uah

5 BEERS from 26uah at clubs .

6 THEY do have an excvellent metro system ,but i didn't use it ,as taxis are very cheap ,again as in poland ,phone for one ,and they give you a pre quote ,and this is the fare ,that you pay to the driver ,so no chance of a rip pff.

AVOID taxis on the streets ,outside hotels and clubs ,bloody sharks as everywhere in eastern europe .

ACCOMMODATION ,is a bit overpriced ,lack of mid range hotel ,but i got an excellent choice ,bang in the centre .MOST punters go for apartments .

BEST time to go early summer ,sept ,oct .

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UNLIKE poland and germany ,there are no SEX clubs in kiev or ukraine .

THE choice of girls though is unbelievable ,and the quality and standard of beauty of ukrainian girls is much higher .

THE waiving of visa requirements for uk, EE, and us citizens prior to landing ,is another bonus , and this i hear this is going to change next year ,not sure about this .

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Hot blonde and tanned is definitely my preferred tipple!

What kind of services can you expect from Ukrainian WG's? OWO, CIM, DFK?

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I am going to visit Krakow for a few days soon and would appreciate any info re massage, clubs and escorts

One club you, would want to avoid in krakow ,is FLAMES .

It is located on one of the main streets ,just off the main square (RYNEK) .

You will be accosted by some touts to go inside to meet lovely girls . This is a Lap dance club .Fourty zloty to get in ,and beers are 20 zloty ,so far so good ,but private dances are 100pln ,and lady drinks min 100 ,although the girls will try to get you to buy the 150 pln drinks .

Take out is avaiable ,unlike other lap dance clubs ,but before you get too excited , it is 1000 zloty ph .

£= 4.50 pln these days

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Thanks for all the info, especially on Flames, the one to avoid. I will post report on my return next week.

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The thing with GIA Is they are focused on western business men, so the rates are fairly high for Kiev, switching from the ENG to RUS lanuage on their site saves you about £25 on the hour.

I like the look of the Escort models site, some nice ones there, If they're for real, not sure If their agency or Indy.

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The thing with GIA Is they are focused on western business men, so the rates are fairly high for Kiev, switching from the ENG to RUS lanuage on their site saves you about £25 on the hour.

I like the look of the Escort models site, some nice ones there, If they're for real, not sure If their agency or Indy.

YOU can never tell ,until you meet the girl ,but i would say 99% agency .

ON www.flirt.com.ua more idies as well as freebies looking for love sex fun etc .

Top girls on my list now from 400 to 800 uah ph .

£ is nearly 14 uah .

KEEP our fingers crossed ukraine does not join EE ,they will all be heading to london .,or asking 100 euro an hour .

Very good option for indies english speaking wgs is the news paper ,Kiev post ,and i heard it ,has been bought by a pakistani Businssman ,so i hope he doesn't turn it into a HALAL Meat only paper .

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Wow, I have got to get over there!

WIZZAIR at LUTON airport ,calling for the last passenger .

I tell you a lot of the kiev girls ,will put most of the girls in RODEO DRIVE LA ,in the shade

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Thanks for all the info, especially on Flames, the one to avoid. I will post report on my return next week.

One girl not to be missed is SATIN ,on www,odloty.com.pl ,a lovely girl with great personality ,give her my kisses . look her up under Krakow

Avoid being hasseled to buy lady drinks at casablanca club ,50 pln per drink ,get out of it by promising them extra tip upstairs, for better performance .

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Wow, I have got to get over there!

NOT for a few months ,there is big panic at the moment over there, with swine flu .

Having said that ,i am heading back there again next week .

No DFK for me this time ,but where there is Muck ,there is Gold....

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Thanks for all the info, especially on Flames, the one to avoid. I will post report on my return next week.

Replied to your pms re drivers

As an after thought ,you can take out girls from sex clubs .

Charge 2 hours plus taxi .

A stunning girl by the name of Sabina was working in Casablanca ,and she is from Katowice .

Give her my kisses .

The driver i gave his no can take you to other clubs ,but they are not much ,

Lallmido in the centre .

Pussycats , lousy .

Club 37 ok

Club exacta .

Massage look under www.odloty.pl

www.roksa.pl

www.sexguide.pl

You can phone for taxis as well ,but never take the ones , hanging outside clubs ,and hotels .

Cheaper to phone .

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NOT for a few months ,there is big panic at the moment over there, with swine flu .

Having said that ,i am heading back there again next week .

No DFK for me this time ,but where there is Muck ,there is Gold....

Jojosun did you get hit with swine flu? lol would like to hear how you got on over In Kiev. :eek:

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Well I am back from Krakow after my few days holiday. I followed jojosun advice and first went to the Casablanca. I chatted to a Irma from Ukraine and after two drinks, had a good 250 PLN worth of fun. A very attractive and accommodating young blonde girl and I thought VFM . The second night I tried Club 37;very different. THe girl behind the bar served me a drink and asked one of the girls in the second room to explain the prices. These were the same as Casablanca ie 250 PLN for one hour. After that I was completely ignored. I decided to go back to Casablanca club and met up with a Polish girl. This was not a success! Very attractive and speaking good English there was a dramatic change in attitude in the room. It was doggie only and it was clear that she wanted to rush onto the next punter asap. The old story I'm afraid. It is so difficult in these clubs to be certain of picking a winner! I think the management there weren't interested either. Next time I shall try Ukraine.

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Jojosun did you get hit with swine flu? lol would like to hear how you got on over In Kiev. ;)

Jerboa . Not much to report on my second kiev visit .

landed there the week after the flu thing ,so a lot of the girls ,that i wanted to see were away ,or too scared to work .

But i did hook up with a semi pro student from www.flirt.com.ua,and now in contact ,and she sent me photos of her girlfriend in kiev ,to meet up with a friend of mine .

A lot of stunners ,students work in massage places ,prices for b2b is £28 ph.

I met a hot blondie from top models ,$80 ph in my hotel .

If i were you ,i would wait till may , early june ,and you can combine poland and ukraine .

The scene in poland is changing rapidly ,and a lot of the really attractive girls are not working in sex clubs any more .

Unemployment in poland is now %6 ,in 2004 it was %20.

Probably it is cheaper to bang polish girls in london .

But food and beer stiil reasonable , over there ..

.Ukraine girls are simply great ,you will have a ball .

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Jerboa . Not much to report on my second kiev visit .

landed there the week after the flu thing ,so a lot of the girls ,that i wanted to see were away ,or too scared to work .

But i did hook up with a semi pro student from www.flirt.com.ua,and now in contact ,and she sent me photos of her girlfriend in kiev ,to meet up with a friend of mine .

A lot of stunners ,students work in massage places ,prices for b2b is £28 ph.

I met a hot blondie from top models ,$80 ph in my hotel .

If i were you ,i would wait till may , early june ,and you can combine poland and ukraine .

The scene in poland is changing rapidly ,and a lot of the really attractive girls are not working in sex clubs any more .

Unemployment in poland is now %6 ,in 2004 it was %20.

Probably it is cheaper to bang polish girls in london .

But food and beer stiil reasonable , over there ..

.Ukraine girls are simply great ,you will have a ball .

Been looking at www.roska.pl and prices seem to be from 100zl upwards

Am I missing something?

Or am I likely to get hit for extras?

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Been looking at www.roska.pl and prices seem to be from 100zl upwards

Am I missing something?

Or am I likely to get hit for extras?

as a foreigner expect to pay double. when i was there last year, the locals were paying half what we were

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Been looking at www.roska.pl and prices seem to be from 100zl upwards

Am I missing something?

Or am I likely to get hit for extras?

should have read

Been looking at www.roksa.pl and prices seem to be from 100zl upwards

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