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Non-punting Professions

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Bewilderbeeste in another thread was saying that he never used to punt when working "in a public sector profession" and that "there's no doubt that for some professionals to be caught punting would be the end of their careers"

So which jobs are susceptible? The only person I've ever heard of getting kicked out of their job for involvement in punting was a police woman. I must say that really surprised me since I don't think there was any allegation of her breaking the law, and to this day I have no idea how it was justified.

I can imagine that any job involving kids could be tricky, then if there's anything criminal most jobs could be affected (and even if there's nothing illegal if it's the police, apparently!). Aside from that I don't know...

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Bewilderbeeste in another thread was saying that he never used to punt when working "in a public sector profession" and that "there's no doubt that for some professionals to be caught punting would be the end of their careers"

So which jobs are susceptible? The only person I've ever heard of getting kicked out of their job for involvement in punting was a police woman. I must say that really surprised me since I don't think there was any allegation of her breaking the law, and to this day I have no idea how it was justified.

I can imagine that any job involving kids could be tricky, then if there's anything criminal most jobs could be affected (and even if there's nothing illegal if it's the police, apparently!). Aside from that I don't know...

An ex member here who worked in local government and was outed as a punter lost his job i heard, i dont know if he left out of embarrassment or what the exact scenario was though.

I imagine any job in the public eye makes punting potentially risky as sadly rags love spreading muck. So anyone famous of course, politicians, Lords for example.

In the police womans case i would think bringing the profession into disrepute was used to get rid of her, many professionals work contracts have such clauses, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers, Solicitors etc. There professional bodies also sometimes take action as they did with a WG who was also a Nurse, i think she got sacked. No idea what would happen if this was tested at a tribunal as its not illegal as you say, its more of a question of morality to my mind.

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Its all to do with how respectable the job you hold is deemed to be.Also setting an example on how tto behave moralisticly

A policewoman for example, they are supposed to be respectable, how can such a person in some peoples eyes be respectable and be taken seriously when it comes out they have been involved in this world?

Teachers, another example, driving instructors, most students are young and impressionable.

Positions in power as such, like an MP, a judge, a solicitor etc... plumbers, builders would not be viewed in the same way.

My partner... if he ever got caught.. he would be hung drawn and quartered by many people in different walks of life because of the positions he holds and the job he does. He is well respected by those he works with.. but by eck would he lose everything if it ever came out.

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An ex member here who worked in local government and was outed as a punter lost his job i heard, i dont know if he left out of embarrassment or what the exact scenario was though.

Was it a senior job?

In the police womans case i would think bringing the profession into disrepute was used to get rid of her, many professionals work contracts have such clauses, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers, Solicitors etc. There professional bodies also sometimes take action as they did with a WG who was also a Nurse, i think she got sacked. No idea what would happen if this was tested at a tribunal as its not illegal as you say, its more of a question of morality to my mind.

What a waste.

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An ex member here who worked in local government and was outed as a punter lost his job i heard, i dont know if he left out of embarrassment or what the exact scenario was though.

I imagine any job in the public eye makes punting potentially risky as sadly rags love spreading muck. So anyone famous of course, politicians, Lords for example.

In the police womans case i would think bringing the profession into disrepute was used to get rid of her, many professionals work contracts have such clauses, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers, Solicitors etc. There professional bodies also sometimes take action as they did with a WG who was also a Nurse, i think she got sacked. No idea what would happen if this was tested at a tribunal as its not illegal as you say, its more of a question of morality to my mind.

Its also about the possibility of blackmail. I have a friend in a prominent role to whom I gave a reference. I was grilled for an hour by some men in dark suits about his sex live, money issues, etc.

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Was it a senior job?

What a waste.

Middle-Management i think.

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Bewilderbeeste in another thread was saying that he never used to punt when working "in a public sector profession" and that "there's no doubt that for some professionals to be caught punting would be the end of their careers"

So which jobs are susceptible? The only person I've ever heard of getting kicked out of their job for involvement in punting was a police woman. I must say that really surprised me since I don't think there was any allegation of her breaking the law, and to this day I have no idea how it was justified.

I can imagine that any job involving kids could be tricky, then if there's anything criminal most jobs could be affected (and even if there's nothing illegal if it's the police, apparently!). Aside from that I don't know...

The only female police officer that I can recall losing her job was this one:

http://www.dailymail...lice-wages.html

She lost her job and was sent to prison for misconduct in public office. She didn't lose her job because she was a prostitute. Having said that, even if she'd not been convicted I suspect she would have been disciplined for not disclosing her second job.

I suspect that in reality if the matter came to an Employment Tribunal, very few people would be at risk of being fairly dismissed because they were a prostitute or punter. The fact is, it's not illegal to be either, and everyone has the right to respect for their personal life (Art. 8 HRA 1998).

There have been cases where individuals have been held to have brought their company into disrepute. One was a primary school teacher who posted pictures on an adult website.

Some people resign out of embarrassment or because they risk being disciplined for reasons associated with the allegations. This nurse worked as a prostitute whilst on sick-leave, resigned and then was struck off by the GMC:

http://www.dailymail...sick-leave.html,

I don't necessarily agree with your comments about the cosequences for police being caught as punters. As mentioned above, it's not illegal, and provided that they do it in their own time then it's none of the force's business. If Tesco are prosecuted for selling cigarettes or alcohol to under-age persons, is a police officer at risk if he shops there the next day? If Barclays are prosecuted for some fraudulent activity, is a police officer at risk if he banks with them?

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Actually what grounds are there for sacking anyone caught visiting an escort other than bringing the organisation into disrepute- but that would only be if it was made public knowledge in the media surely? I reckon that the punters as opposed to the service providers would be waaay less likely to actually get the chop. There are many cases of women working as escorts being dismissed or having to resign when it's become public. The tabloids are notorious for outing women, less so men, unless they are famous.

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Many employers today will have a standard clause in a Contract of Employment which states that damaging the reputation of the employer will lead to disciplinary action and possible dismissal. How many people would want to argue their case in a public employment tribunal if they worked part time as a WG. A punter may get away with it. Of course it all depends on how valuable said employee is to the firm ( or, in the case of a WG, if one of her punters was a senior manager in the firm)

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The last person I heard of losing his job, was a sheriff, type of judge in scotland. During a blackmail investigation,involving carlols sauna, the suspects gave his name to police, though he was nothing to do with the case. It was sheer spite. Another sheriff was caught during a sweep of glasgow saunas. If you have a job like a teacher nurse or police, best not to work in the sex industry, unless you are doing it far from home.

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I never came across a case where an employee was sacked for liaising with a prostitute. But, if caught out, can anyone imagine them staying in the job? How are they going to face their colleages - some no doubt will be female colleagues?

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I never came across a case where an employee was sacked for liaising with a prostitute. But, if caught out, can anyone imagine them staying in the job? How are they going to face their colleages - some no doubt will be female colleagues?

David Pleat as manager of Spurs? Angus Deayton from Have I Got News For You? I suspect Roman Catholic clergymen might have morre difficulty than they do with child abuse. Edited by BobJim

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David Pleat as manager of Spurs? Angus Deayton from Have I Got News For You? I suspect Roman Catholic clergymen might have morre difficulty than they do with child abuse.

Yes in some cases eg hugh grant, getting caught with a hooker can be a good career move. For the majority, the so what attitude is the right one. Avrim Grant or whatever his name is, ex manager of chelseas weathered the storm quite easily as well.

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Anything which requires DV (developed vetting) level of security clearance could cause you a problem. That's the one where they grill your friends about you. From what I understand, having seen prostitutes in the past wouldn't be a problem as long as you own up to it, but continuing once DV cleared would be. It's to do with blackmail risk.

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Just caught up with this: have been away for a few days (but not inside I assure you!). I wasn't saying that people in public sector professions caught punting would necessarily get the sack, but Toomuch is right to say that anyone working with kids would struggle to hang on to their jobs. A number of jobs now have more stringent professional standards which impinge on peoples' life outside work.

The reason I didn't punt while in the public sector was only partly because of the risk of outing. My punting career happened to coincide with a move into freelance work in the private sector which involves more travelling and freedom to explore the punting possibilities available up and down the country!

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I am struggling to understand why seeing prostitutes should indicate that the punter or the WG is a risk to children. Is there any evidence that the paid sex community is more likely to abuse kids or is this just plain old bollocks

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It is of course plain old bollocks! However you just have to mention the sex industry and some people automatically think the worst.

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It is of course plain old bollocks! However you just have to mention the sex industry and some people automatically think the worst.

Exactly right, sad but true.

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Actually what grounds are there for sacking anyone caught visiting an escort other than bringing the organisation into disrepute- but that would only be if it was made public knowledge in the media surely? I reckon that the punters as opposed to the service providers would be waaay less likely to actually get the chop. There are many cases of women working as escorts being dismissed or having to resign when it's become public. The tabloids are notorious for outing women, less so men, unless they are famous.

Indeed!!

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