CurvyGracie

Advice For A New Escort, From A Punters Perspective?

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Hi

Well, after dipping my toe in the adult industry via webcamming last year and meeting 2 guys who I "knew" from ** via my webcamming, I now want to go, erm, well mainstream so to speak.

I've been studying the Saafe website to get advice from other escorts and have set up with HMRC etc...but is there any particular advice you, as the punters?

I'm 28, BBW in Yorkshire. This will be a part-time outcall only venture for me as I work in the NHS in a dull as dishwater role and am primarily doing this as a) I love sex/meeting different folk B) want to save for a deposit and c) it will increase my confidence.

Looking forward to hearing your replies.

x

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Hi

Well, after dipping my toe in the adult industry via webcamming last year and meeting 2 guys who I "knew" from ** via my webcamming, I now want to go, erm, well mainstream so to speak.

I've been studying the Saafe website to get advice from other escorts and have set up with HMRC etc...but is there any particular advice you, as the punters?

I'm 28, BBW in Yorkshire. This will be a part-time outcall only venture for me as I work in the NHS in a dull as dishwater role and am primarily doing this as a) I love sex/meeting different folk :cool: want to save for a deposit and c) it will increase my confidence.

Looking forward to hearing your replies.

x

First, good luck on your new venture, which i hope is as enjoyeaable for you as i am sure it will be for the punters.

Main thing is honesty, only advertise the services you will enjoy. saing something is discretionary will not deter clean, polite gentleman, if you point out it is dependant on hygeine. Always talk to a punter on the phone prior to a meeting, for your sake as well as theirs, as often over the phone you can gauge a guy's attitude. Also, if you offer CIM, it may well be that at given times you dont feel like offering it, if that the case tell a guy when he rings you that you dont feel like CIM, most gentleman would admire your honesty and probably book anyway. Honesty a huge thing.

Never cut the appointment short UNLESS the guy is rude or aggressive. Following on from that point, always have a male friend nearby who you can call if something goes wrong, do not go to an outcall on your own.

do not feel you have to offer a certain service, remember no woman is expected to do anything other than what she enjoys, so think about your 'enjoys' list and be accurate.

And have fun!! If you enjoy yourself, the client will feed off your enjoyment and no doubt book you time and time again, and tell his punting friends about you and/or post on here about how great you are.

Good luck gorgeous. xxx :)

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I think Snogman has been reading Saafe...very good advice so I'll +1 it.

I have nowt to add except that maybe it's not too wise of you to tell people that you work for the NHS. I'm not too sure what their policy is on the whole whore-ing biz, but really it's just not a good idea to offer up such personal information on t'internet where anyone can read it and may try to use it against you.

Best of luck x

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Make sure you have a trust worthy friend on call to help if things get out of hand. They probably won't but peace of mind is useful.

Get a good web site. Plenty of the ladies here will be happy to assist in your choice I'm sure.

Good luck.

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Never cut the appointment short UNLESS the guy is rude or aggressive. Following on from that point, always have a male friend nearby who you can call if something goes wrong, do not go to an outcall on your own.

Er, you can cut an appointment short for any reason you like. Some reasons are certainly better than others, but if you really want or need to stop, you stop.

And your security buddy does not have to be male nor do they have to follow you everywhere you go, the important thing is that you have one and that the punter knows you do. Any people who think the answer to everything is threatening or thumping people generally are more of a liability than anything else and will only make a bad situation worse.

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I endorse everything said

Also look at the obvious, you need a 2nd very private phone for your new job and also an array of new outfits. I always find it nice when a lady says to me what would you like me to wear...........and to highlight ALWAYS speak to the guys first

Like the others said good luck in your new job and be happy

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Hello Gracie,

There are a few points I would make.

Firstly on a website, keep it simple. When it comes to sex us blokes are visual animals, we would far rather look at the photos than read acres of writing. Remember that your website is your opportunity to tell your clients what they can expect. You see websites where the girls like to talk about themselves, a pen picture of yourself is important but don't make it too long. Tell us what you are going to do for us.

I would also add if you set up a profile on the purple site, don't launch it with a private gallery. Many of your potential clients will simply view you a scammer until you get some solid feedback.

More generally there seem to be two things consistently that annoy us guys.

First is misrepresentation. Be honest about yourself, who you are, what you look like. I would also add to the earlier comment about only offering services you feel comfortable with. It is very irritating when this that and other service is unavailable as stated, and it will come through on your online feedback. You can offer a service at discretion but it should be a service that if your client turns up clean and respectful you will go through with. And my second point, linked to the above is us clients get really annoyed if the girl seems unenthusiastic. If you offer french kissing pin him up against the wall and snog his face off, great! Don't that that to that working girl trick of sticking your tongue out through firmly clenched teeth. Make your client the centre of your world. Nothing worse than a girl who doesn't really want to be there.

Wishing you the best of luck!

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As a punter I would say the best advice you could get from a punter is don't listen to advice you get from punters. Being on this side of the encounter tend to give us a skewed view of things.

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As a punter I would say the best advice you could get from a punter is don't listen to advice you get from punters. Being on this side of the encounter tend to give us a skewed view of things.

That was my first thought too!

Some of the gentlemans comments so far are good though, not all......

You are reading SAFFE, which is good.

A lady who does out calls will be able to give you some very good advice on how to handle being an out call only escort.

If you ask on that site for help, some nice person will be able to advise you I am sure.

Lucy :)

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As a punter I would say the best advice you could get from a punter is don't listen to advice you get from punters. Being on this side of the encounter tend to give us a skewed view of things.

Ignore this, do freebies to experienced punters like myself to get good FRs and feedback;-)

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Er, you can cut an appointment short for any reason you like. Some reasons are certainly better than others, but if you really want or need to stop, you stop.

And your security buddy does not have to be male nor do they have to follow you everywhere you go, the important thing is that you have one and that the punter knows you do. Any people who think the answer to everything is threatening or thumping people generally are more of a liability than anything else and will only make a bad situation worse.

Well, unless the punter has done something wrong, the girl should give his money back or some of it at least if he hasnt done anything wrong.The best business for a girl is repeat business from regulars and having a good reputation, cutting an appointment short because she has a headache wont go down that well!!

As for security, by all meanss take a woman along if she like our Gemma in the Olympics!! But generally, a girl coming through the door is not going to worry an aggressive punter, an unfriendly looking arsehole like me will be much more effective in deaaling with another arsehole!!

And, a man who is aggressive to any woman including a WG deserves his jaw broke as a deterrent!! Amy, it may seem unpalatable to you, but many men only understand violence, especially bullies, and a man providing security to a girl has to make sure she is safe no matter what he has to do!!

Anyway, i hope OP never has to cal her security

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Hello Gracie,

There are a few points I would make.

Firstly on a website, keep it simple. When it comes to sex us blokes are visual animals, we would far rather look at the photos than read acres of writing. Remember that your website is your opportunity to tell your clients what they can expect. You see websites where the girls like to talk about themselves, a pen picture of yourself is important but don't make it too long. Tell us what you are going to do for us.

I would also add if you set up a profile on the purple site, don't launch it with a private gallery. Many of your potential clients will simply view you a scammer until you get some solid feedback.

More generally there seem to be two things consistently that annoy us guys.

First is misrepresentation. Be honest about yourself, who you are, what you look like. I would also add to the earlier comment about only offering services you feel comfortable with. It is very irritating when this that and other service is unavailable as stated, and it will come through on your online feedback. You can offer a service at discretion but it should be a service that if your client turns up clean and respectful you will go through with. And my second point, linked to the above is us clients get really annoyed if the girl seems unenthusiastic. If you offer french kissing pin him up against the wall and snog his face off, great! Don't that that to that working girl trick of sticking your tongue out through firmly clenched teeth. Make your client the centre of your world. Nothing worse than a girl who doesn't really want to be there.

Wishing you the best of luck!

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Don't write 'I'm new to all this...' on your website or anywhere else, because every sleazy creep and time waster will be clapping their hands, and calling/emailing you. Some of these are very practiced in their deceit, some are so stupid though, that even a new girl would notice...good luck! X

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Well, unless the punter has done something wrong, the girl should give his money back or some of it at least if he hasnt done anything wrong.The best business for a girl is repeat business from regulars and having a good reputation, cutting an appointment short because she has a headache wont go down that well!!

As for security, by all meanss take a woman along if she like our Gemma in the Olympics!! But generally, a girl coming through the door is not going to worry an aggressive punter, an unfriendly looking arsehole like me will be much more effective in deaaling with another arsehole!!

And, a man who is aggressive to any woman including a WG deserves his jaw broke as a deterrent!! Amy, it may seem unpalatable to you, but many men only understand violence, especially bullies, and a man providing security to a girl has to make sure she is safe no matter what he has to do!!

Anyway, i hope OP never has to cal her security

Breaking someone's jaw whilst may get the message across could end up the thumper in jail. A female security buddy, knowing where the girl is and knowing she is in danger will be able to call the police should the girl be attacked or held against her will.

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Well, unless the punter has done something wrong, the girl should give his money back or some of it at least if he hasnt done anything wrong.The best business for a girl is repeat business from regulars and having a good reputation, cutting an appointment short because she has a headache wont go down that well!!

As for security, by all meanss take a woman along if she like our Gemma in the Olympics!! But generally, a girl coming through the door is not going to worry an aggressive punter, an unfriendly looking arsehole like me will be much more effective in deaaling with another arsehole!!

And, a man who is aggressive to any woman including a WG deserves his jaw broke as a deterrent!! Amy, it may seem unpalatable to you, but many men only understand violence, especially bullies, and a man providing security to a girl has to make sure she is safe no matter what he has to do!!

Anyway, i hope OP never has to cal her security

Most guys would turn someone away if they turned up with some bruiser, take reasonable precautions, quite easy if it's outcalls only, but I think most guys would think I'm going to be robbed if a bloke turned up.

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Hi

Well, after dipping my toe in the adult industry via webcamming last year and meeting 2 guys who I "knew" from ** via my webcamming, I now want to go, erm, well mainstream so to speak.

I've been studying the Saafe website to get advice from other escorts and have set up with HMRC etc...but is there any particular advice you, as the punters?

I'm 28, BBW in Yorkshire. This will be a part-time outcall only venture for me as I work in the NHS in a dull as dishwater role and am primarily doing this as a) I love sex/meeting different folk :cool: want to save for a deposit and c) it will increase my confidence.

Looking forward to hearing your replies.

x

I require a good or better attitude, friendly and enthusiastic along with honesty. If a WG then turns me on with her pictures it could be punt on.

Anything negative is a big turn-off to me and i go elsewhere. I am only interested in WGs with phone numbers, i havent the inclination to email and wont know until i wake up if i want to punt that day or not so getting an instant or nearly instant response is important to me. When i ring i will ask for confirmation that the services i require are definitely still on offer, in the past when i didnt ask this i found a small number of WGs said they had "forgot" to update their profiles/sites so they are a guide to me not gospel till i have got that verbal confirmation.

I hope it goes well and please bear in mind there are some arseholes out their but also many genuine punters who arent timewasters, hopefully you will be dealing with many more of them than the arseholes who do us genuine punters no favours. Any security you have should not be seen or heard unless needed in my view. Good luck. ;)

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As a punter I would say the best advice you could get from a punter is don't listen to advice you get from punters. Being on this side of the encounter tend to give us a skewed view of things.

I dont agree, in my view getting advice from both punters and other SPs is a smart thing to do, from both sides of the coin and the OP picks out what advice she thinks is of any use.

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I dont agree, in my view getting advice from both punters and other SPs is a smart thing to do, from both sides of the coin and the OP picks out what advice she thinks is of any use.

Sorry smiths, but I agree with Dan. What I do think can be helpful is asking (some) punters opinions on things like ads, pictures and whatever but as we've seen on here before even this is so subjective you can't possibly please everybody and you'd just drive yourself mad trying. And any potential WG who actually needs to be told not to lie in ads/photos or piss punters about and to be clear about what's on offer and what isn't is either dishonest already or as thick as a plank and no amount of good advice from you, me or anybody else is going to change that.

There is no job on earth where I can imagine the customers should be telling the owner/provider how best to do it because no matter how well meaning they are, they've got a perfectly understandable vested interest in a favourable outcome for themselves. If a landlord asked his customers how he should run his pub he'd be open 24 hours a day, charging 50p a pint and doing free toasties for regulars. And everything paid for at the end, obviously :rolleyes:.

As for 'snogman' his clearly immense breadth of all-encompassing knowledge regarding, well, everything about not only our job but also our customers and how we work, plus the fact that he completely ignored a relevant part of my post probably because he didn't understand it (I suspect that list isn't getting any shorter) is probably best ignored, particularly since the most tempting reaction to his idiocy would probably get me an infraction. I suppose if nothing else his posts have proved my (and DanLeno)'s points spectacularly well.

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As a punter I would say the best advice you could get from a punter is don't listen to advice you get from punters...

Nonsense, you actually need both views(escort and punter).as a service provider to

ignore/discount the views of those to whom you provide a service would be ridiculous

and counter productive.

Happy punters=repeat punters=increased word of mouth=more business=more money.

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Nonsense, you actually need both views(escort and punter).as a service provider to

ignore/discount the views of those to whom you provide a service would be ridiculous

and counter productive.

Happy punters=repeat punters=increased word of mouth=more business=more money.

Spot on, although i'd say for the OP it is punters views that are alot more helpful than WG's as lets be frank, some WG's, will consider the OP to be a rival so will be tempted to give crap advice. Some of the WG's on this post have been talking nonsense, whether on purpose we will never know, but as you say, and i think it is worth spelling out as it is the magic formula...HAPPY PUNTERS=REPEAT PUNTERS=INCREASED WORD OF MOUTH=MORE BUSINESS=MORE MONEY.

It aint rocket science really!!

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Logically speaking there are two sides to every story as Jeremy Kyle says :P

And let us not forget either that all ladies are not the same with regard to their knowledge. There are many customers who know the trade very well and the many different aspects of it e.g Smiths specialising in parties. Somes ladies never do this aspect of work.

Nonetheless I can understand what DanLeno is trying to get at. As customers we may see it from a customer perspective and 'forget' the lady concerned is running a business with all the intracacies that may involve. However, even if this is the case the information provided still could prove to be useful even if it is not the correct advice, to a lady who is cued on in her thinking..

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I would also point that the OP did specifically ask for advice from a punters perspective. I'm sure she doesn't really want to read posters attacking each other.

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Spot on, although i'd say for the OP it is punters views that are alot more helpful than WG's as lets be frank, some WG's, will consider the OP to be a rival so will be tempted to give crap advice. Some of the WG's on this post have been talking nonsense, whether on purpose we will never know, but as you say, and i think it is worth spelling out as it is the magic formula...HAPPY PUNTERS=REPEAT PUNTERS=INCREASED WORD OF MOUTH=MORE BUSINESS=MORE MONEY.

It aint rocket science really!!

Actually, if you really knew anything about escorting you would know that the vast majority of women do look out for each other, you only have to read saafe and relevant posts here to see that women are supportive of each other. I don't understand why you think yourself such an expert. Unless you have actually been a female escort you will never understand the intricacies of it. Yes, much of it is common sense but there is a hell of a lot more to it than what you or any other outsider knows.

To the OP my advice is:

Always use your instincts- if something feels wrong then don't go ahead with the booking- safety is key here.

Get a website and advertise where you can- several great BBW websites out there.

Keep your profile/website/ adverts up to date and blog if you can.

Good photos- not necessarily pro ones but clear ones with plain backgrounds- noone wants to see your hoover and ironing pile behind you!

Remember business can go in swings and roundabouts- don't get disheartened if its dead one day, the phone could go off the hook the next!

Set your rules and boundaries carefully and stick to them. Anyone attempting to persuade you or work round them, however nice they seem should be avoided.

As a newbie you may well be inundated and targeted by chaps who want to 'help' you by offering to do photos or duo sessions or offer feedback for discounts. Avoid.

Oh, get organised- have condoms, lube, tissues, babywipes, decent undies and outfit, stockings all ready and in one place so when you're booked you're not running about like a mad thing!

Use saafe!

EDIT: Sorry yes above poster is correct, she wanted punters advice. I'll just be quiet.

Edited by LondonLydia

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Nothing wrong with breaking bending the rules once in a while... :P

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I would echo most of the above but would add

Decide what services you intend to offer and state these on your website. If there are some discretionary services then don't mention them till you have had a few clients and feel more confident.

If you are certain that there are some things that you will NOT entertain then feel free to state these too on your site. That avoids and later confusion.

Get good quality photos, and if you wish to obscure your face try to do so artfully rather than with a blob of black.

Don't mention that you are new to the game, or that you have a "regular" job. Nobody but you needs to know.

Good luck

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