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In recent days there has been an intense debate on the MK sub-forum about the accuracy or not of the displayed ages of some of the WGs in MK parlours, here's the point at which the discussion starts:

http://www.punternet.com/forum/index.php/topic/26358-milton-keynes-escorts/#entry437072

You may not want to read the long-winded posts, so here's a brief synopsis:

A parlour owner admitted to using poetic licence with regard to the ages of the girls, a forum member challenged him to post accurate ages of all staff. The parlour owner has decided to do just that, so we now have the situation that the following affiliated establishments all claim to have actual age information (taken with consent from official ID documents) posted on their websites:

Ego Massage, Bletchley: http://ego-massage.com/milton-keynes-massage-parlour-gallery.php

MKEscorts, Milton Keynes: http://www.miltonkeynesescorts.com/escort-gallery-all-escorts.php

Annabellas, Milton Keynes: http://annabellasescorts.com/escort-gallery-all-escorts.php

House of Divine, South Kensington: http://www.houseofdivine.com/escort-gallery-london-escorts.php

Some girls have seen up to 9 years added to their stated ages as a result of this change and have expressed concern about whether it will adversely affect their work.

Some punters have welcomed this new-found honesty as another useful piece of information when planning a punt, others think it's unnecessary and were happy with the staus quo of fictitious age stats.

I think it's a brave step that these 4 establishments have taken and has the potential to cause a revolution in the industry.

The age deception that so many SPs practice is well-documented on here, sometimes it's a source of frequent frustration for punters as it can be so inconsistent. Some girls state their real age, some knock a few years off and it's hardly noticed if they're fresh-faced, some start to take the mickey by lopping a decade or more off, this kind of gross deception often ends in frustration for all involved as punters walk rather than go through with a disappointing reality.

Do you think this kind of transparency is a good thing for the industry as a whole? For punters? For SPs?

Will this move by 4 well-regarded establishments be a catalyst for change to the almost ubiquitous age deception that exists right across the industry?

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Will this move by 4 well-regarded establishments be a catalyst for change to the almost ubiquitous age deception that exists right across the industry?

I doubt it.

If anything the girls ages will be removed and just pictures will be shown as per the LMP site.

So who is going to be first to post a link to an agency where some of the girls working in the above mentioned establishments also work but now show incorrect ages and sizes etc.

The only revolution this will cause in the sex industry is a possible negative impact on the MK scene, which through the hard work of the owners/managers has set a benchmark which many parlours have not yet reached. Hopefully though the MK regular punters will just continue to visit as normal, I for one intend to do just that. I was there today and I'm back again on Friday.

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How can this really be discribed as deception when the point of the entire industry is that it creates an enjoyable fantasy which we all throw ourselves into. And fantasies are not about measuring exact dates of birth or dress sizes. And what is the point of knowing a real age - if you have meet a woman previously and enjoyed your time with her why would you not see her again just cos you think her age may not be as advertised (how shallow can you get!).

And of course the other point is that women do understandably want to keep some anominity - even with a blurred picture a correct age may lead to increased chances of unwanted discovery. Why would in those circumstances it be unreasonable to give a different age - after all if we want real openess would all punters be happy to change there present names they go by to use their real names - oh and you may aswell print your address and phone number after your name.

This is not a transparent world and it is no one's interests for it to be - so i have to say in my view the MK establishments are wrong to have been bullied into doing what they are doing but punters would be even more wrong not to use them for discoevering the Sexy Young Edna is not really 19.

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In recent days there has been an intense debate on the MK sub-forum about the accuracy or not of the displayed ages of some of the WGs in MK parlours, here's the point at which the discussion starts:

http://www.punternet...ts/#entry437072

You may not want to read the long-winded posts, so here's a brief synopsis:

A parlour owner admitted to using poetic licence with regard to the ages of the girls, a forum member challenged him to post accurate ages of all staff. The parlour owner has decided to do just that, so we now have the situation that the following affiliated establishments all claim to have actual age information (taken with consent from official ID documents) posted on their websites:

Ego Massage, Bletchley: http://ego-massage.c...our-gallery.php

MKEscorts, Milton Keynes: http://www.miltonkey...all-escorts.php

Annabellas, Milton Keynes: http://annabellasesc...all-escorts.php

House of Divine, South Kensington: http://www.houseofdi...don-escorts.php

Some girls have seen up to 9 years added to their stated ages as a result of this change and have expressed concern about whether it will adversely affect their work.

Some punters have welcomed this new-found honesty as another useful piece of information when planning a punt, others think it's unnecessary and were happy with the staus quo of fictitious age stats.

I think it's a brave step that these 4 establishments have taken and has the potential to cause a revolution in the industry.

The age deception that so many SPs practice is well-documented on here, sometimes it's a source of frequent frustration for punters as it can be so inconsistent. Some girls state their real age, some knock a few years off and it's hardly noticed if they're fresh-faced, some start to take the mickey by lopping a decade or more off, this kind of gross deception often ends in frustration for all involved as punters walk rather than go through with a disappointing reality.

Do you think this kind of transparency is a good thing for the industry as a whole? For punters? For SPs?

Will this move by 4 well-regarded establishments be a catalyst for change to the almost ubiquitous age deception that exists right across the industry?

To clarify it wasnt just ages as the linked thread shows that Mr Divine posted he lied about. I posted i require honesty saying thats me, others might view things differently, i didnt challenge Mr Divine to do anything, he posted off his own back that his sites will be made honest. He decided to post that, i didnt post directly asking him to as its his business and responsibility what he decides to do. Its been welcomed by some and not by others.

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John, I've said that over and over on the other thread. That punting is buying the fantasy and not reality so it doesn't matter how old the girl really is, just how old she can pass for!

There are just certain people on these forums who feel that as they pay a bit of money then they have every right to know everything about the girls and the places they work.

I wonder how those same punters would feel if they had to show ID for every punt!

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I agree with Lamorak that it will have no impact on the whole industry, Some places dont give a toss.

But, I have spent tonight looking through the MK places at their now true age.

Who would I see, who wouldnt I see, etc.....

Looking at the list now, theres now MORE names on my to see list than on my "ummm,, nah" list if I was taking "poetic license" into a rough guess of what her age is and what she may look like....

For example,

Id completly crossed off Vanessa from MK Escorts.. based on my previous experience of profiles of "30 years old"

Now it looks like vanessa is actualy still 30....

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So.. Im thinking maybe Id now go ahead and see her since were now the same age...

To bring up Lamorak's point of posting the truth may have a negative impact, Id like to point out that my punting in the MK places dropped dramatically due to "poetic license" getting far out of control in my experience, among others..

But I also know that most punters in MK arent even looking at the MK Places websites or even this forum.. so I dont think it would make that much difference.

Recently thou Ive already took the punt and saw new girls like Lauren and Olga. And Im already planning a revisit.

If anything the new stance has removed my "yeah? So how old could she be really?" out of my descisions of who to see.

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John, I've said that over and over on the other thread. That punting is buying the fantasy and not reality so it doesn't matter how old the girl really is, just how old she can pass for!

There are just certain people on these forums who feel that as they pay a bit of money then they have every right to know everything about the girls and the places they work.

I wonder how those same punters would feel if they had to show ID for every punt!

The point is that some girls DONT pass for there advertied aged.

Some advertise such things cos its Bait and switch, to entice the punter to book, turn up, and hope that he thinks with his dick and pays rather than walks. Same as posting fake pics of another girl.

Ive lost track of the number of negative FRs, profiles on the other site, that Ive read cos it started with "advertised as 22, turns out she 50"

I dont care if shes 22,23,24,26 if shes advertised as 23. But if she advertised as 22 and turns out to be 50 then Its a scam.

ive wasted my time and money. and girls who I could have seen instead have also missed out.

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1. Do you think this kind of transparency is a good thing for the industry as a whole? For punters? For SPs?

2.Will this move by 4 well-regarded establishments be a catalyst for change to the almost ubiquitous age deception that exists right across the industry?

1. Its a good idea

2. Maybe not at present - but who knows what may happen in the future

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As for the age thing I've always added on 5 years minimum to the stated figure, so as to automatically discount for any poetic licence. The lack of some licence would be far more surprising.

Occasionally I meet a woman who is clearly a decade older, and then I take a view. If the punt is, in other ways, great, then that's fine. But if it is not then I will, and have, negatively reviewed, and will refer to the age exaggeration, among other things. Happens rarely tbh.

I suspect that for some of the guys for whom this is a big issue are actually quite keen on very young ladies. That's their prerogative, but I'm in my mid-fifties, and prefer women that are as emotionally mature as they are physically. So I prefer women in the broad band between late twenties and early forties, and take that plus poetic licence into account when I book.

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I think Overworked's comments are the most valuable on here as he gives the mind set of one of actual paying clients rather than the opinion of someone who never has and never will use us.

Looking at in black and white I think we should be transparent and will attempt to do so. However some girls like Dee, Izabel, Charlize and one or two others are really not happy with this change. They have clearly stated that if this policy effects their earning then they will leave and go to a agency that does use poetic licence. Their POV is that the clients will now add 5+ years onto their real age due to the inbred belief that all agencies lie.

So you can see our dilemma, we have to weigh the up the voice of the clients for transparency against the wishes of the girls. We cannot survive without the clients and we are only as good as the girls that work for us at any given time. We also have to consider what percentage of our clients use Punternet where the pressure is coming from and what percent do not but are now seeing different ages and wondering what is going on ?

I am all for dialogue between SP's like ourselves, our staff and clients. However there is an argument for 'doing an ostrich' and burying ones head in the sand. Others do and on the face of it there seems to be little effect on their business.

For the present time though we will continue to participate, listening to the views of our actual clients such as Overworked and Lord Melchett, acting on them accordingly if we feel it is appropriate whilst soothing the egos of our staff by rubbing them down with crisp £50 notes.

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Dear Mr D.

Firstly, congratulations for your courage.

You might care to know that I have been in recent contact with one of your ladies about our age difference. I asked her if she is comfortable with seeing "Saga clients" and received a positive reply.

I have not visited HOD yet, despite your glowing reputation and that I could probably stroll to you in 10 minutes because I feared to inflict myself upon a young lady without prior knowledge that she would be comfortable. Now I learn that, say, Izabel, who has many admirers, is not just out of her teens I am much more likely to be comfortable with meeting me.

The lady I corresponded with is on a promise for my first visit but several others have now shown up on my radar.

I will visit you soon and your stance makes it likely to be sooner than it might have been.

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Acyually, I couldn't care less if the lady quotes an age lower than her real one, but what I would be concerned about is her using old (10 years plus) photographs.

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How can this really be discribed as deception when the point of the entire industry is that it creates an enjoyable fantasy which we all throw ourselves into. And fantasies are not about measuring exact dates of birth or dress sizes. And what is the point of knowing a real age - if you have meet a woman previously and enjoyed your time with her why would you not see her again just cos you think her age may not be as advertised (how shallow can you get!).

And of course the other point is that women do understandably want to keep some anominity - even with a blurred picture a correct age may lead to increased chances of unwanted discovery. Why would in those circumstances it be unreasonable to give a different age - after all if we want real openess would all punters be happy to change there present names they go by to use their real names - oh and you may aswell print your address and phone number after your name.

This is not a transparent world and it is no one's interests for it to be - so i have to say in my view the MK establishments are wrong to have been bullied into doing what they are doing but punters would be even more wrong not to use them for discoevering the Sexy Young Edna is not really 19.

If a woman opened the door and she was 10 years older and 2 dress sizes bigger than you were expecting, wouldn't this destroy your fantasy? Or would you just take it on the chin and make the best of things, because dishonesty is all part of the fun?

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Age is not relevent to some folk, as a matter of fact they might be looking for someone who has crossed over the forty year barrier, so to see them advertised as near their age is good.

What I do object to though is when someone says theyare 19-20 and are in their late 20's, that is going too far.

but a true indie will have feedback that say whay the punters think her age is, so its bound to get around how old an escort is.

I find size for some folk is more of an issue than age, and kissing should be stated as to if its available or not, as it is what most folk are after, peck, or DFK.

But yes honesty is good to hear about, Thank you Mr D, I hope you get the success you deserve for doing this.

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Looking at the list now, theres now MORE names on my to see list than on my "ummm,, nah" list if I was taking "poetic license" into a rough guess of what her age is and what she may look like....

For example,

Id completly crossed off Vanessa from MK Escorts.. based on my previous experience of profiles of "30 years old"

Now it looks like vanessa is actualy still 30....

.

If anything the new stance has removed my "yeah? So how old could she be really?" out of my descisions of who to see.

Yes exactly this!!

I can now book with confidence girls right up into their early 30s, whereas under the 'poetic licence' system I would have to err on the side of caution and discount anyone over 24, having got my fingers burnt by girls who had shaved a whole decade or more off their ages, probably meant some girls who weren't as dishonest (say they were 29, but put 25 on their profiles) missed out on my custom.

The point is that some girls DONT pass for there advertied aged.

Yep, I've met a few who looked at least 10 years older than their fake age, I went ahead with the punts, but the deception did leave me somewhat disappointed and disillusioned.

Maybe I'm shallow, but I'm approaching the 'mid-life crisis' age range where I want to punt with fresh-faced girls I might have been able to pull 10-15 years ago but don't stand a chance with now the hair is thinning and greying and a few extra pounds around the middle, if a girl looks after herself she can retain this youthful nubility into her early 30s.

I don't want to pay £120ph to have sex with a 35+ yr old who looks her age and has evidence of the ravages of childbirth on her body...a lot of punters my age can get this 'fantasy' for free at home!

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To clarify it wasnt just ages as the linked thread shows that Mr Divine posted he lied about. I posted i require honesty saying thats me, others might view things differently, i didnt challenge Mr Divine to do anything, he posted off his own back that his sites will be made honest. He decided to post that, i didnt post directly asking him to as its his business and responsibility what he decides to do. Its been welcomed by some and not by others.

Apologies smiths, I worded that wrong. Thanks for clarifying.

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I appreciate your new policy Mr D and I think it will work for you

My main concerns with service providers is that if they blatantly lie about the girls ages, "adjust" their photos etc, then they will also lie about the services provided too

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I appreciate your new policy Mr D and I think it will work for you

My main concerns with service providers is that if they blatantly lie about the girls ages, "adjust" their photos etc, then they will also lie about the services provided too

I've always found the service lists in MK to be very honest already (in fact their whole offering was already among the most honest and reliable I've found, if it transpired that a girl wasn't offering a service it would be removed promptly from the list), but then I'm not a service-list junkie. I tend to let things go with the flow, like you can't force a flower to open, but if you let the sun shine on it, it opens naturally.

Some guys are very insistent on getting DFK and if the lady doesn't like her tonsils licked they get frustrated.

On occasion I've been offered a CIM in MK when it's not been on the list...that felt sooo good!

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John, I've said that over and over on the other thread. That punting is buying the fantasy and not reality so it doesn't matter how old the girl really is, just how old she can pass for!

There are just certain people on these forums who feel that as they pay a bit of money then they have every right to know everything about the girls and the places they work.

I wonder how those same punters would feel if they had to show ID for every punt!

Not 'everything', just the genuine age and genuine measurements/stats of the girl they may be considering seeing

Not everything about a punt is 'fantasy', if a girl claims on her profile to be 25 and 5'10" with an all natural E cup bust and 26" waist, then naturally certain punters would be very interested in booking a session with her, exactly because she's tall, 25 years old with all natural E cup breasts and a slim waist. Certain punters want and expect this reality when they arrive, and why not ? It's what it 'says on the tin'.

If the punter arrives only to discover a 40 year old (at least) woman, who's 5'4" with unsightly silicone implants and a 32" waist then naturally he'll be disappointed and feel cheated as she bears little relation to the description on her profile.

Where punters make bookings based on the physical attributes as described on the website/profile and then discover in the flesh a real discrepancy then said punters are perfectly within their rights to feel cheated and/or deceived.

Taken to its logical conclusion if you're of the opinion that 'punters are paying for a fantasy' then why protest against the practice of bait n switch ?

The photo shows a well known and very beautiful Japanese glamour model but when you arrive youre expected to be perfectly happy with the very average looking Chinese 20something student youre presented with......and why not ?.....since youre only 'paying for the fantasy' of sex with a beautiful Japanese glamour model ?

Bait n switch is an extreme example but there is a widespread practice, particular on agency profiles, of trying to pass off obviously enhanced breasts as 'natural', another common practice is over inflation of natural breast measurements and yet another is obvious photoshop 'enhancement' of pictures on websites.

Personally I'm not too fussed when it comes to the age of a wg, within reasonable bounds anyway, as long as she looks youthful and as hot in person as she does in the pics then I'm happy.

I also rarely pay much attention to stats, however I do get irritated at the consistent practice of passing off obvious breast enhancements as 'natural'.

To a 'breast man' such as myself this sort of thing matters, since 'large natural breasts' could be what persuaded me into booking a particular girl in the first place.

Similarly, while not for me but for others, the prospect of sex with a 22 year old hottie really whets their appetite, and exactly this age factor could be what persuaded them to travel out of their way at considerable expenditure of time, effort and money. Hence when theyre greeted at the door by someone clearly at the very least 5 years older, then theyre fully within their rights to feel deceived into booking her in the first place.

Most of this deception relies on the notion of men 'thinking with their dicks', as in, 'I'm here anyway, so I may as well stay, even though she really isnt what i wouldve expected at all'.

Personally I'd welcome more honesty on profiles and applaud the actions of those 4 establishments.

The only 'fantasy' I'm paying for when booking is the possible fantasy that the girl finds me physically and sexually attractive, enjoys my company, enjoys having sex with me and enjoys giving me pleasure and making me feel good.

I'm not paying for the fantasy of having sex with someone who looks significantly different to her profile pictures and whose quoted stats bear little relation to reality.

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Oh, it would be great to know how old girls really are. I've seen so many girls that had a different age on every site. Like everybody here I prefer to know the real age.

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Oh, it would be great to know how old girls really are. I've seen so many girls that had a different age on every site. Like everybody here I prefer to know the real age.

Well you can now at those 4 establishments...it's a real eye-opener, I punted with a girl yesterday who was previously down as 23, I had seen her before and always had her marked as a well-preserved 27/28, it now transpires her real age is 32 and boy does she look amazing on it...a real live-wire in the room too!

http://www.miltonkeynesescorts.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=229

http://houseofdivine.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=320

It's made me reconsider my age parameters.

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I've never believed the stated age and expect them to be 5 to 10 years older. Whatever the true age they're still a lot younger than me. ;)

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I have never used House of Divine before. Despite readings many excellent reviews here and elsewhere of their services, I've just vener got round to them. I have been burnt many times with other London establishments - booking the 23 yo size 8 who turns out to be 35 yo size 14.

I will now try House of Divine at the first opportunity. I think they (and the Bletchley/MK agencies mentioned) should be fulsomely applauded for responding in this positive way to their customers.

I don't believe this will cause a revolution on the industry but I do believe that I will decide to punt where I believe there are quality girls advertised in a reasonably fair manner. Agencies that choose to operate in that way should be supported by all of us.

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Not 'everything', just the genuine age and genuine measurements/stats of the girl they may be considering seeing

Not everything about a punt is 'fantasy', if a girl claims on her profile to be 25 and 5'10" with an all natural E cup bust and 26" waist, then naturally certain punters would be very interested in booking a session with her, exactly because she's tall, 25 years old with all natural E cup breasts and a slim waist. Certain punters want and expect this reality when they arrive, and why not ? It's what it 'says on the tin'.

If the punter arrives only to discover a 40 year old (at least) woman, who's 5'4" with unsightly silicone implants and a 32" waist then naturally he'll be disappointed and feel cheated as she bears little relation to the description on her profile.

Where punters make bookings based on the physical attributes as described on the website/profile and then discover in the flesh a real discrepancy then said punters are perfectly within their rights to feel cheated and/or deceived.

Taken to its logical conclusion if you're of the opinion that 'punters are paying for a fantasy' then why protest against the practice of bait n switch ?

The photo shows a well known and very beautiful Japanese glamour model but when you arrive youre expected to be perfectly happy with the very average looking Chinese 20something student youre presented with......and why not ?.....since youre only 'paying for the fantasy' of sex with a beautiful Japanese glamour model ?

Bait n switch is an extreme example but there is a widespread practice, particular on agency profiles, of trying to pass off obviously enhanced breasts as 'natural', another common practice is over inflation of natural breast measurements and yet another is obvious photoshop 'enhancement' of pictures on websites.

Personally I'm not too fussed when it comes to the age of a wg, within reasonable bounds anyway, as long as she looks youthful and as hot in person as she does in the pics then I'm happy.

I also rarely pay much attention to stats, however I do get irritated at the consistent practice of passing off obvious breast enhancements as 'natural'.

To a 'breast man' such as myself this sort of thing matters, since 'large natural breasts' could be what persuaded me into booking a particular girl in the first place.

Similarly, while not for me but for others, the prospect of sex with a 22 year old hottie really whets their appetite, and exactly this age factor could be what persuaded them to travel out of their way at considerable expenditure of time, effort and money. Hence when theyre greeted at the door by someone clearly at the very least 5 years older, then theyre fully within their rights to feel deceived into booking her in the first place.

Most of this deception relies on the notion of men 'thinking with their dicks', as in, 'I'm here anyway, so I may as well stay, even though she really isnt what i wouldve expected at all'.

Personally I'd welcome more honesty on profiles and applaud the actions of those 4 establishments.

The only 'fantasy' I'm paying for when booking is the possible fantasy that the girl finds me physically and sexually attractive, enjoys my company, enjoys having sex with me and enjoys giving me pleasure and making me feel good.

I'm not paying for the fantasy of having sex with someone who looks significantly different to her profile pictures and whose quoted stats bear little relation to reality.

I've said it in almost every post on this subject! I agree that descriptions and photos of all girls should be accurate.

There's nothing worse than seeing someone online described as your ideal woman but in reality being someone you wouldn't look twice at.

And there are women out there who take the piss, ones who photoshop their pictures until they look more like Jessica Rabbit than any mortal should, those that try to pass off as being ten years younger than they really are when in reality they'd haver trouble getting people to believe their real age.

But any decent SP will always weed these out themselves, I grant that not all SPs are all that decent. But any girl in say her early or mid 30's who could easily be mistaken for a 25-28 year old I have no problem with them putting that age on their profile.

I do find it amusing when you see some girls whos profile says they are say 32 but you know for a fact that their profile has said that for the best part of the last decade and it was a bit of a fib even at the beginning!

But if I see a profile that says something like 27 year old slender with nice firm natural boobs and long legs, and I walk into a room and find a gorgeous woman who looks in her mid 20's with a slender body, firm natural boobs and long legs then I don't care if her real age is 27 or 82 (although I admit that the 82 year old would be bloody lucky to pass for 27)

I also understand that some women prefer to smooth out their photos to maybe cover some minor blemishes, that's just vanity. And covering up distinguishing marks such as tattoos is just sensible when they might not want to be recognised because of them.

Maybe I'm not picky enough or maybe I'm not shallow enough, but as long as I've had a great session with someone whom I find sexually attractive then I don't care about the details I have no right to know about

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I've said it in almost every post on this subject! I agree that descriptions and photos of all girls should be accurate.

There's nothing worse than seeing someone online described as your ideal woman but in reality being someone you wouldn't look twice at.

And there are women out there who take the piss, ones who photoshop their pictures until they look more like Jessica Rabbit than any mortal should, those that try to pass off as being ten years younger than they really are when in reality they'd haver trouble getting people to believe their real age.

But any decent SP will always weed these out themselves, I grant that not all SPs are all that decent. But any girl in say her early or mid 30's who could easily be mistaken for a 25-28 year old I have no problem with them putting that age on their profile.

I do find it amusing when you see some girls whos profile says they are say 32 but you know for a fact that their profile has said that for the best part of the last decade and it was a bit of a fib even at the beginning!

But if I see a profile that says something like 27 year old slender with nice firm natural boobs and long legs, and I walk into a room and find a gorgeous woman who looks in her mid 20's with a slender body, firm natural boobs and long legs then I don't care if her real age is 27 or 82 (although I admit that the 82 year old would be bloody lucky to pass for 27)

I also understand that some women prefer to smooth out their photos to maybe cover some minor blemishes, that's just vanity. And covering up distinguishing marks such as tattoos is just sensible when they might not want to be recognised because of them.

Maybe I'm not picky enough or maybe I'm not shallow enough, but as long as I've had a great session with someone whom I find sexually attractive then I don't care about the details I have no right to know about

We really are more or less 'on the same page' on all of these points, with the significant exception of your last point:

'as long as I've had a great session with someone whom I find sexually attractive then I don't care about the details I have no right to know about'

and, really i practically agree with this statement, all the way up until the words: 'i have no right to know about'

If I was a punter for whom age is a critical factor, the real 'selling point' (I'm not), then her real age is a detail that I do have a right to know about, since i wouldnt be parting with my money if i knew her real age was pretty far from her stated age, whether its only a difference of, say, 5 years is immaterial since, as this is my proclivity, a girl with a maximum (and obviously legal) age of say 22 is what im paying for, then this is what i should get.

Silicone being passed off as 'natural', and blatantly flattering stats, or obviously inflated breast measurements for the titmen, are usually visually obvious to the punter when he sees her in the flesh (it can also often be visually obvious in the profile pics), and so whether the punter has a right to these details is irrelevant, since all he has to do is open his eyes and spot the obvious discrepancies.

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