jd74

Demoralised After Punt

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Had my third punt on Saturday, i had been planning this for a couple of weeks and was really looking forward to it, so planned meticulously. Over week had narrowed it down to 3 indies on the other site. Saturday morning, two were unavailable, so booked the third one for 1.5 hours happily. Spoke to girl on phone, arranged meet approx two hours later.

Arrived at premises, WG opened door in nice outfit. It was obviously the girl from the pictures, but she was SO skinny (breasts were ok), if there is such thing as a UK dress size 4, then she was it. Beautiful face, romanian, english not good.

Anyway, upstairs, dealt with paperwork, undressed, laid on bed. Heard a commotion from downstairs. Asked the girl who that was, apparently there were 4 girls working from this house. She also told me that her uncle (also from Romania) was there and looked after the girls. She called him her boss. She was speaking at a whisper, and told me that her uncle had written her website, and that even though on her profile it says she does everything, she told me that as she was so small Anal was painful for her and she hated it. She also told me that she had come of her own accord, that she had been here since June and in her first two weeks she had to have an operation on her vagina and also her stomach due to minor injuries she suffered from over zealous clients.

Anyway, down to business, and there was a loud knock on the door. One of the other WG's came in and asked to borrow some lube, which my girl gave over, leaving me on bed lol.

Went back, did the business (very slowly as i was petrified about hurting her), but in fairness she really tried to provide me with what i desired, but i left after approx 1 hour as didnt feel comfortable, and girl looked as if she was going to cry. She gave me a big hug on way out, she blatantly wasnt happy doing it.

I left, walked back to car in a daze, wondering if i should have left sooner, rather than go through with it.

To be honest, all three punts ive had have been EE girls, but this time really made me question whether punting is for me. I felt so sorry for the girl (maybe me being niaive) and didnt enjoy my time, feeling i had to be really careful not to hurt her.

All i want is an hours good time with someone who genuinely enjoys it (or at least put on a show)......

Oh well, ill see what happens.

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My opinion, for what it's worth, is that this lady may have arrived here voluntarily, but now she'd rather not be here. You could consider calling Crimestoppers, the number is on this page:

http://www.punternet.com/frs/fr_search.php

Perhaps other people may have something useful to add?

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I think Claire is right you have to consider calling the Crimestoppers number, Noone should be living like that. I'm sorry you have had this experience, but in reality whilst there are lots of happy willing escorts there are some who are not and it's no bad thing that we are all reminded of this.

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Had my third punt on Saturday, i had been planning this for a couple of weeks and was really looking forward to it, so planned meticulously. Over week had narrowed it down to 3 indies on the other site. Saturday morning, two were unavailable, so booked the third one for 1.5 hours happily. Spoke to girl on phone, arranged meet approx two hours later.

Arrived at premises, WG opened door in nice outfit. It was obviously the girl from the pictures, but she was SO skinny (breasts were ok), if there is such thing as a UK dress size 4, then she was it. Beautiful face, romanian, english not good.

Anyway, upstairs, dealt with paperwork, undressed, laid on bed. Heard a commotion from downstairs. Asked the girl who that was, apparently there were 4 girls working from this house. She also told me that her uncle (also from Romania) was there and looked after the girls. She called him her boss. She was speaking at a whisper, and told me that her uncle had written her website, and that even though on her profile it says she does everything, she told me that as she was so small Anal was painful for her and she hated it. She also told me that she had come of her own accord, that she had been here since June and in her first two weeks she had to have an operation on her vagina and also her stomach due to minor injuries she suffered from over zealous clients.

Anyway, down to business, and there was a loud knock on the door. One of the other WG's came in and asked to borrow some lube, which my girl gave over, leaving me on bed lol.

Went back, did the business (very slowly as i was petrified about hurting her), but in fairness she really tried to provide me with what i desired, but i left after approx 1 hour as didnt feel comfortable, and girl looked as if she was going to cry. She gave me a big hug on way out, she blatantly wasnt happy doing it.

I left, walked back to car in a daze, wondering if i should have left sooner, rather than go through with it.

To be honest, all three punts ive had have been EE girls, but this time really made me question whether punting is for me. I felt so sorry for the girl (maybe me being niaive) and didnt enjoy my time, feeling i had to be really careful not to hurt her.

All i want is an hours good time with someone who genuinely enjoys it (or at least put on a show)......

Oh well, ill see what happens.

I would of walked if it had been me. I punt for fun, this doesnt sound like fun to me and far worse, it sounds like she doesnt want to be doing it.

Whether she needs rescuing is another thing, only you going on what you believe helped by others advice on here can make that judgement. I would strongly advise if you do ring Crimestoppers you do it anonymously though. If this woman is being coerced giving your name and details could lead you into police bother.

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My opinion, for what it's worth, is that this lady may have arrived here voluntarily, but now she'd rather not be here. You could consider calling Crimestoppers, the number is on this page:

http://www.punternet...s/fr_search.php

Perhaps other people may have something useful to add?

Go with your instincts and make that call. You could be saving some poor girls a lot of grief if there are, as you say, a number of girls in the same flat. It sounds as though the "uncle" is pimping them.

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Advice:

* Call Crimestoppers, do it NOW and anonymously

* Start researching your next punt. If it were me ( and it isn't)- I'd avoid another EE girl for now, just find a nice indie who will give you a good time.

* Not all girls (thank god) are in this awful situation,there are some lovely ones out there

Good luck!!

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I can assure you that Crimestoppers DO NOT require any personal details from you. That's one of the purposes of the service to allow people who are afraid of possible consequences to call in confidence. Please follow the advice already given.

Also make sure that the next lady you book with has english as her primary language and speak to her beforehand to confirm this is correct. Apart from any other activities it's more enjoyable if you can actually have a conversation.

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That must have been horrible. In future only visit girls who have had good reviews here on PN. When a punt goes well it can be the best thing in the world, but when it goes badly it can be the worst. Better luck with your next punt.

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well, i called crimestoppers. i gave the address of the property concerned, and brief details. I didnt give any details of how i knew what i knew, lady on end of phone was really nice. Hopefully they will pass onto the local police to deal with - i just hope no punter is there if and when they raid the address!!

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I hope that jd74 will come back and tell us that he has made that phone call.

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Sounds horrible. Call Crimestoppers for sure. Poor girl :(

I'd have walked.

I had an english girl burst into tears once right at the start of a punt. She returned all my money and chatted a bit, she wasn't being forced but was just desperate for cash and in over her head. As Smiths says, punting should be fun, not saddening.

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I see that everyone has given you the same advice, i.e. to call Crimestoppers, but nevertheless I would like to make a couple of points of my own.

Five or six years ago I was involved with a very nasty trafficking case where five young women from an Eastern European country (not Romania) had been tricked into coming to London where they were then forced to work in circumstances very similar to those you describe.

In their case they, too, were required to tell people that they were there voluntarily and that they were being looked after by a "cousin". They were also told to lie about which Eastern European country they really came from.

Very importantly, there was a baby alarm in every room (and closed circuit television in the corridor outside) so that the ‘managers’ could monitor every conversation between the girls and their clients.

Our story handed happily, albeit not without a long period of uncertainty during which the police were wonderful and highly supportive while the Immigration Service were b-----s.

It sounds to me very much as though the girl you saw was trafficked.

If you haven't already, call Crimestoppers now.

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How sad and what an upsetting experience it must have been... Don't like the sound of that 'uncle' much either. Gosh, when you are an indi you sometimes live in a bit of a self contained bubble and when you hear of stuff like this, it makes you think.

I would call Crimestoppers too, I think you will feel better for doing it.

Good luck xx

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I understand that the call has now been made.

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Apologies, there have been no mods around for a couple of hours to approve posts, but I have now approved a post from the OP saying that he has called Crimestoppers.

Thanks all.

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Oh good God sweetheart. That's enough to reduce anybody, punter, working girl, or just human being to tears.

You walked into some shitstorm of horror. And you weren't sure of the correct conduct in that situation. Okay. Take a deep breath.

There are bad people out there in the world. Don't feel that this somehow your fault. It is not.The whole 'Oh hells teeth,is this a terrible thing and I am encouraging it?" , it is a bloody mirage sweetheart. It is not just prostitution where this happens. People take advantage and use others in all kinds of ways.

I am very glad to hear a call has been made. That hopefully some action is being taken. A little slip of a girl having operations on her stomach, on her vagina...........it is so nice to hear posters on a forum like this call it out for what it is. But jd74, you did not cause that situation, and you have done the right thing. Well done x

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I understand that the call has now been made.

Good stuff hopefully the police will make an informed decision as to how to proceed(and not stomp in without thinking their course of action through). The amount of dodgy situations some punters report they walk into baffles me sometimes when so many are so nervous about being ripped off, taking advantage etc. I'm not in their shoes however so can't make a judgement.

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I am not so sure if the lady concerned is being 'trafficked' - albeit it does not sound like the best of situation.

Not sure what else to say regarding the matter except you have reported it and hopefully things will turn out all for the best

Edited by Superego

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Thanks for your replies guys.

As i already stated, i made the call earlier, was easier than what i thought it would be. Wouldnt hesitate to do it again now.

I just hope the relevant authorities actually do something about it.

Strawberry, i did speak to the girl in question over the phone to arrange the meeting, although she was heavily accented i didnt have any idea what i would be walking into. Im no old hand at this game :)

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Anyway, upstairs, dealt with paperwork, undressed, laid on bed. Heard a commotion from downstairs. Asked the girl who that was, apparently there were 4 girls working from this house. She also told me that her uncle (also from Romania) was there and looked after the girls. She called him her boss. She was speaking at a whisper, and told me that her uncle had written her website, and that even though on her profile it says she does everything, she told me that as she was so small Anal was painful for her and she hated it. She also told me that she had come of her own accord, that she had been here since June and in her first two weeks she had to have an operation on her vagina and also her stomach due to minor injuries she suffered from over zealous clients.

Anyway, down to business, and there was a loud knock on the door. One of the other WG's came in and asked to borrow some lube, which my girl gave over, leaving me on bed lol.

Went back, did the business (very slowly as i was petrified about hurting her), but in fairness she really tried to provide me with what i desired, but i left after approx 1 hour as didnt feel comfortable, and girl looked as if she was going to cry. She gave me a big hug on way out, she blatantly wasnt happy doing it.

I left, walked back to car in a daze, wondering if i should have left sooner, rather than go through with it.

To be honest, all three punts ive had have been EE girls, but this time really made me question whether punting is for me. I felt so sorry for the girl (maybe me being niaive) and didnt enjoy my time, feeling i had to be really careful not to hurt her.

All i want is an hours good time with someone who genuinely enjoys it (or at least put on a show)......

Oh well, ill see what happens.

I'm actually shocked that nobody has said anything to the OP!

AFTER this poor girl confides in him about her very sorry situation and that she's had surgical treatment for sexual injuries he THEN decides to still go ahead and f@ck her 'slowly' (how generous of you) just to add to her misery!

I personally think you should be ashamed of yourself and that calling Crimestoppers is the very least that ŷou could have done!

Am I missing something here or have I gone mad? I bloody hope somebody agrees with me!?

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I'm actually shocked that nobody has said anything to the OP!

AFTER this poor girl confides in him about her very sorry situation and that she's had surgical treatment for sexual injuries he THEN decides to still go ahead and f@ck her 'slowly' (how generous of you) just to add to her misery!

I personally think you should be ashamed of yourself and that calling Crimestoppers is the very least that ŷou could have done!

Am I missing something here or have I gone mad? I bloody hope somebody agrees with me!?

This is what I meant by my comment above, considering the concerns most punters post about(trafficking, being caught up in a raid, personal safety etc) I was surprised he stayed (but then again you hear of others doing this in similar situations too).

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I am not so sure if the lady concerned is being 'trafficked' - albeit it does not sound like the best of situation.

Not sure what else to say regarding the matter except you have reported it and hopefully things will turn out all for the best

The OP said she told him she came here of her own accord so the question now is is she now being coerced to my mind, although she could be being trafficked now as well of course. Hopefully the police will investigate and find out.

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She probably hasnt been trafficked in the legal sense, but its a nasty set up I imagine, girls paying a lot for their "fares etc", not being left with much at the end of the day. Whether any law is being broken is unclear, but britain is seen as a soft touch for too many nasty types from the east. What responsible punters can do is boycott flats where the girls are at best being given a poor deal. If the organisers make little money they will move on, it will be a long time before the brits start showing who is in charge of their country but they could look at how the french are getting stuck in, with typical gallic enthusiasm.

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She probably hasnt been trafficked in the legal sense,.

I'm not so sure. Whilst it's not clear, I suspect that she probably has.

Whether any law is being broken is unclear......

Brothel-keeping

Controlling prostitution for gain.

Money-laundering

Trafficking ?

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I'm actually shocked that nobody has said anything to the OP!

AFTER this poor girl confides in him about her very sorry situation and that she's had surgical treatment for sexual injuries he THEN decides to still go ahead and f@ck her 'slowly' (how generous of you) just to add to her misery!

I personally think you should be ashamed of yourself and that calling Crimestoppers is the very least that ŷou could have done!

Am I missing something here or have I gone mad? I bloody hope somebody agrees with me!?

There is nothing to be gained by villifying the OP. By talking to him the way we have, he has decided to call Crimestoppers. If we had simply leapt on him, he may have become defensive and nothing would have been achieved?

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