Colonel Bonkers

Anyone Seen This Lady?

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If true, this was a shameful attack on a sick man.

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I've just seen this too, as per Porker Paul says usually it's the male who's the strongest but this man was obviously vulnerable.

Interestingly enough there's not mention of financial gain for her(no theft mentioned) so we can only speculate and assume she flipped her lid. Revealing that she is 12 years older than her advertised age going to reinforce the old 'of course all WGs knock large amounts of years off their age' argument too, but that's slightly off the point really(like a long way).

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I'm inclined to agree with Strawberry and say she flipped her lid as robbery doesnt seem to have been the motive!

I dont understand why people do these things, I dont mean in any moral sense but if you attack and kill someone like that nowerdays because of Forensic science, the cops WILL catch you!

Which backs up Strawberrys theory that the woman snapped and vented her anger in a few momenst of insanity!

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Two people know the truth of what happened and unfortunately only one is alive and she will be giving her version of the truth. It's therefore only conjecture as to what occurred but based on what I've read which is necessarily what happened I would suggest a likely scenario.

There seems no doubt that the victim was in poor health, apparently a drink problem, and was infatuated with her. I think we can assume that over a period of time he had given her a great deal of money presumably for whatever services had been provided.

Did she ask him for more than he was able or willing to provide? Did she believe he had money in the house and he said not? Difficult to believe that he wanted her to do something she wasn't prepared to do. The circumstances we know of would suggest it wasn't premeditated. You would have to be incredibly stupid to leave the evidential trail that she did. Assuming she is responsible did she " snap " and was not in control of her actions? Or was it in her nature to be sadistic and see nothing wrong in causing physical damage and subsequent death in this way? I've seen cases that have been premeditated and cases were the perpetrator went too far before they realised what had happened.

The legal system will bring about a decision. Whether it's the correct decision we will never know. The only person who knows the truth will never tell.

One further question. Why and to what extent does she require an interpreter? Is english so that bad?

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Dreadful story...

Going from the link I have to say it takes a lot to flip your lid and then to murder someone. Furthermore there was some of her action which was carefully planned to cover her tracks also,

which raises suspicions

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I find it hard to believe that a call girl would do something like this and maybe she is the fall-guy for someone else. Just a thought.

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Yes, I had considered this too, Sarah. Seems a little suss to me... But then there is nowt as queer as folk, as they say!

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Think the fact that she changed her number, and revisited to see if he was still alive, suggests she did have something to do with it

Should make for an interesting trial. If she alleges mistreatment by him, the review he posted - doubtless taken down now, from whichever site it appeared on - will be evidence of how the appointments were really going, which may weaken her defence. Other WG's, from those two agencies and elsewhere,which he reviewed may also be called to the witness stand to recount their experiences.

Should think quite a lot of people are sweating on this.

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Will wait for the outcome before I pass opinion, there are always two sides to a story and having been at the mercy of an alcoholic stalker who to the outside world seemed a meek mild mannered man, but when he had me locked up became a monster and his abuse was horrendous, so there could be two sides to this. That could very easily have been me.

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R.I.P! I hope justice prevails.

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my god, are you girls mad, youre blaming the dead man instead of the escort?!! you need medication serious

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One further question. Why and to what extent does she require an interpreter? Is english so that bad?

If she's Russian then it might well be.

Even if she's got reasonable conversational English she might find it difficult to understand legal or technical terms such as DNA or alibi.

Additionally, from her viewpoint, by having an interpreter she has more time to think of an answer. The whole cross-examination process is slowed down. It makes it more difficult for the prosecution to question her and for the jury to guage her reaction to questions.

Vincent Tabak (who was convicted of murdering Jo Yeates in Bristol) is Dutch and by all accounts had excellent English. He also used an interpreter - not that it did him much good.

She sounds very dangerous (and stupid) to me.

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I find it hard to believe that a call girl would do something like this and maybe she is the fall-guy for someone else. Just a thought.

Maybe. but then she hasnt told the police who that other person is, if there is one.

He was beaten to death with what they say was something like high heels and he has broken ribs. So unless shes a russian gymnast he was most likley lying on the ground when he suffered those injuries....

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I find it hard to believe that a call girl would do something like this and maybe she is the fall-guy for someone else. Just a thought.

There are oddballs in all walks of life unfortunately :( .. I know of a client who was almost killed by an escort he had never met before and he is an extremely lucky man to be alive today.

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Dreadful story...

Going from the link I have to say it takes a lot to flip your lid and then to murder someone....

From the case continues link:

'Jurors have heard how Mr Fernandez had suffered multiple injuries including bruises from his head to his legs, with 17 broken ribs and 2 fractures to bones in his neck'

Edited by Superego

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my god, are you girls mad, youre blaming the dead man instead of the escort?!! you need medication serious

Look we are all pushed at times and non of us really know what we are capable of in certain conditions. At the moment until the whole story comes out we don't know what happened in that room and all we can see is that an elderly man has been killed in a pretty horrible way. Whilst I, and I know that non of the other ladies here would ever wish this on anyone, most of us have been around long enough and seen enough to know that even the most mild and meekest of souls/men can turn and become monsters especially with drink. As I said before there are always two sides to a story, I would suggest that the men here are judging this man by their own standards, you just don't know whats been done to her, so best not pass comment until we know the whole truth.

Either way two lives have been destroyed which is sad.

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Look we are all pushed at times and non of us really know what we are capable of in certain conditions. At the moment until the whole story comes out we don't know what happened in that room and all we can see is that an elderly man has been killed in a pretty horrible way. Whilst I, and I know that non of the other ladies here would ever wish this on anyone, most of us have been around long enough and seen enough to know that even the most mild and meekest of souls/men can turn and become monsters especially with drink. As I said before there are always two sides to a story, I would suggest that the men here are judging this man by their own standards, you just don't know whats been done to her, so best not pass comment until we know the whole truth.

Either way two lives have been destroyed which is sad.

I am not sure if the aforesaid is in relation to everybody - or a slight slip in language. In this instance I have taken it at face value

I would like to think - as always - I am basing my assessments - so far on the facts of the case which have been reported.

This would be in keeping with my name and role of the Superego (irrespective whether male or female) :P

Edited by Superego

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Look we are all pushed at times and non of us really know what we are capable of in certain conditions. At the moment until the whole story comes out we don't know what happened in that room and all we can see is that an elderly man has been killed in a pretty horrible way. Whilst I, and I know that non of the other ladies here would ever wish this on anyone, most of us have been around long enough and seen enough to know that even the most mild and meekest of souls/men can turn and become monsters especially with drink. As I said before there are always two sides to a story, I would suggest that the men here are judging this man by their own standards, you just don't know whats been done to her, so best not pass comment until we know the whole truth.

Either way two lives have been destroyed which is sad.

Terrible wording here Holly in my view, "the men", i for one am not judging anyone as my post clearly showed, as ever posters are posting as individuals on here not as a group, i am certainly only posting as an individual anyway going on each issue as i see it. Until the verdict i have no idea as regards this case. :)

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I am not sure if the aforesaid is in relation to everybody - or a slight slip in language. In this instance I have taken it at face value

I would like to think - as always - I am basing my assessments - so far on the facts of the case which have been reported.

This would be in keeping with my name and role of the Superego (irrespective whether male or female) :P

right, yeah, because the superego is always just sooooo balanced and reasonable, never a terrible persecuting tyrant.

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Terrible wording here Holly in my view, "the men", i for one am not judging anyone as my post clearly showed, as ever posters are posting as individuals on here not as a group, i am certainly only posting as an individual anyway going on each issue as i see it. Until the verdict i have no idea as regards this case. :)

Most of the men here are absolutely lovely (that comes through in their posting, as it does in yours), thats what I meant by judging by their standards. Most nice decent men would not be able to comprehend that some men behind closed doors can be absolute monsters whilst appearing on the surface to be sweet mild and meek. I certainly was not knocking the men here or meant to upset anyone... Sorry.

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Most of the men here are absolutely lovely (that comes through in their posting, as it does in yours), thats what I meant by judging by their standards. Most nice decent men would not be able to comprehend that some men behind closed doors can be absolute monsters whilst appearing on the surface to be sweet mild and meek. I certainly was not knocking the men here or meant to upset anyone... Sorry.

Unless a person has individual experience of those who can behave in certain way which are contradictory to their outward appearance, it's difficult to start seeing things in a different light. Some people can be abusers behind closed doors yet appear ever so meek, mild and helpless(even physically) to everyone else.

Murder is wrong no doubt about it, and this guy didn't deserve to be killed however if a situation has built up between two people either one can sometimes be pushed simply too far. Doesn't make it any less of a crime however judgement hasn't been passed yet, and if there are mitigating circumstances let's hope the defendant's team encourage her to tell her side so she can be sentenced accordingly.

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Most of the men here are absolutely lovely (that comes through in their posting, as it does in yours), thats what I meant by judging by their standards. Most nice decent men would not be able to comprehend that some men behind closed doors can be absolute monsters whilst appearing on the surface to be sweet mild and meek. I certainly was not knocking the men here or meant to upset anyone... Sorry.

No problem Holly, its certainly the case that i dont know what anyone else i dont know and even perhaps do know could be capable of under certain circumstances. I was mugged once, i fought back and got a kick in, i didnt even think I would react like that let alone know what others might do. :)

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